| <adhok> morning MotherLUG | |
| <MotherLUG> adhoc, Morning | |
| <MotherLUG> sorry, my father arrived to finish locking down the house to prevent small boy from doing a bolt again | |
| <adhok> ah ... | |
| <adhok> how are you folks this morning ? =) | |
| <MotherLUG> slightly sleep deprived but doing ok thanks | |
| <MotherLUG> every small noise I was up and on the move to check | |
| <MotherLUG> was a long night | |
| <MotherLUG> but now there are BIG locks on windows and sliding door | |
| <adhok> its funny how things work | |
| <lisapc> hi | |
| <adhok> hi lisapc | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, do what I do, but ear plugs | |
| <lisapc> sleep like a baby | |
| <lisapc> i alWays sleep wth ear plugs | |
| <Hit3k> seriously? | |
| <Hit3k> MotherLUG, your son did a runner? | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, the solution is not found in trying to force the boy to stay, the solution is found in WHY he is doing the bolt in the first place | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, that method you apply will never work in the long term, only causes more rebellious behaviour and resentment | |
| <lisapc> you need to find out the underlining cause of WHY | |
| * adhok escapes to bunnings to partake in retail therapy | |
| <Hit3k> :o | |
| * adhok finds a garment for lucychili | |
| <Hit3k> hm | |
| <Hit3k> actually i need to go to dick smiths | |
| <lisapc> Hit3k, disk dowsnt own it anymore | |
| <lisapc> dick | |
| <lisapc> Wollworths own it now | |
| <Hit3k> yeah but its still called "Dick Smiths Electronics" | |
| <lisapc> Dick Smith sold the company to Woolworths in 1982 | |
| <lisapc> yeah | |
| <lisapc> i went into that store about 1 year ago and asked to speak to Dick Smith | |
| <lisapc> and they looked at me and said Dick left :P | |
| <Hit3k> hahahaha | |
| <lisapc> lol | |
| <lisapc> :) | |
| <Hit3k> good stuff | |
| <lisapc> they thought i was drunk im sure :P | |
| <lisapc> i love playing mind games like that with dick smith staff ;) | |
| <Hit3k> I want to go make up computer related questions | |
| <lisapc> Hit3k, for fun, one day go and demand to speak to Dick Smith | |
| <lisapc> notice their reaction :) | |
| <adhok> right, one clothed lucychili | |
| <Hit3k> i shall | |
| <adhok> Hit3k: we used to do the "has it got LRF support?" to various sales people | |
| <adhok> and on that note.. | |
| * adhok scarpers | |
| <Hit3k> have fun adhoc | |
| <Hit3k> adhok* | |
| <purserj> lisapc: with all due respect we are in the process of determining the why, in the mean time we have to stop him from getting into situations where he is a danger to either himself or others | |
| <lisapc> purserj, how old is he? | |
| <purserj> 8 | |
| <lisapc> purserj, ok | |
| <lisapc> profressional guidance is needed | |
| <lisapc> by qualified people | |
| <lisapc> you cant just inprison the boy and hope for the best | |
| <lisapc> that does more long term damage | |
| <lisapc> kids hate being controlled, they dont have the maturity or awareness to know any better | |
| <lisapc> there is the right way and wrong way to deal with this situation | |
| <purserj> lisapc: thats funny cos I've got that attic all setup with the chains and everything. Of course we've got professionals looking at this. We spent all bloody day in hospital on monday due to an rage attack | |
| <lisapc> 90% of parents go the wrong way | |
| <lisapc> purserj, whats causing the rage attack? | |
| <lisapc> what was the trigger? | |
| <lisapc> purserj, you must stay calm! the boy will pick up your vibes | |
| <purserj> the fact I wouldn't let him play on the playstation | |
| <lisapc> purserj, why wasnt he allowed to play on it? | |
| <lisapc> purserj, im asking because im qualified psychlogist | |
| <purserj> as a punishment for bad behaviour | |
| <lisapc> purserj, when a boy gets angry, moist parents add the fuel to the fire | |
| <lisapc> wrong wrong wrong way to handle it | |
| <lisapc> purserj, what was his bad behaviour that you felt you needed to punish? | |
| <lisapc> purserj, the problem is lack of parenting skills. I must insist you read 2 books. 1. How to win friends and influence people by Dale Carnegie. 2. Whale Done! by Ken Blanchard. Both these will help with raising your parenting skills and how to REDIRECT the boys behaviour to a positive one | |
| <lisapc> purserj, over 90% of parents do it wrong way due to lack of skills. And this causes long term children poor bahaviour | |
| <lisapc> purserj, I do many parenting classess | |
| <lisapc> purserj, you should never ditrectly punish bad bahviour as this causes boy to becoe more violent and agressive. In the book Whale Done! it teaches instead to REDIRECT bad behaviour | |
| <lisapc> purserj, but of course. most parents arent humble enough to learn new skills | |
| <lisapc> they think their way is the only way | |
| <lisapc> brb | |
| <quail> hi peeps | |
| <MotherLUG> ok lisapc , When it comes to my 8 yr old son leaving the house at 5.30am to go and try and break into the mall that is 5 km away and a know pedophile has moves in around the corner I will do what ever it takes to stop him leaving the house again during the early hours of the morning | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, and i didnt disagree with that | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, but note the comments I made. | |
| <lisapc> they are about a core and underlining reason WHY he is behaving that way in the first place | |
| <MotherLUG> lisapc, he has been under a registered psychologist for 2 years and going on a weekly basis, and he is also under a child psychiatrist | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, applying a band-aid to a wound that needs to be cured from the inside, wont do you any good in the long term | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, in the last 2 years, has he improved? | |
| <purserj> lisapc: mouthing pithy sayings won't either | |
| <MotherLUG> no, he has gotten worse | |
| <purserj> Its called treating the symptoms while looking for the cause | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, most psychiatrists and psychologists only apply a band-aid | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, now thats my point | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, after 2 years he has gotten worse | |
| <lisapc> and reasons is because the psychiatrists and psychologists and you are not doing this the righr way | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, think about it! think deeply! 2 years and his gotten worse | |
| <lisapc> ask yourself WHY and ask yourself why keep doing what you doing if he is only getting worse | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, you need to do something different | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, if you keep doing the same, we will talk again in another 2 years, and his gotten worse again | |
| <MotherLUG> I'm really not in the right place to be getting things shoved down my ttroat right now. I have searched beyond the end of the earth and faught beuracratical bullshit for the past 4.5 years in regards to my son. I suggest you get the whole story before slinging of wonderful book titles and the like | |
| <lisapc> defination of insanity: Keep hitting your head agasinst the same wall, expecting a different result | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, I can tell by your attitude why the boy is the way he is. it all starts and ends in YOU | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, your agressive attitude is transferred unto th boy | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, the key to the solution is found in YOU | |
| <lisapc> thats all I will say | |
| <Tatey> sweet, scored a free Cisco Aironet Wireless AP | |
| <Tatey> http://cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6521/products_data_sheet0900aecd8031c844.html | |
| <quail> Tatey: nice | |
| <Tatey> not bad for free :D | |
| <quail> yeah i agree there | |
| <merlin-linux> -quail- VERSION irssi v0.8.10 - running on Linux i686 | |
| <Hit3k> busted! | |
| <Hit3k> wow... do herd CDs always have lines across the screen or is it just my computer | |
| <siccness> There's a point where you have to feel sorry for South Africa | |
| <siccness> Making 353 runs from 40 overs only is just unbelievable | |
| <TheMuso> siccness: Who are they playing? | |
| <siccness> Netherlands | |
| <siccness> It's compeltely beside the point though | |
| <siccness> 353 runs from 40 overs is unbelievable | |
| <Hit3k> at least they'll win | |
| <siccness> They did | |
| <siccness> The game is over | |
| <Hit3k> are the Netherlands any good? | |
| <TheMuso> hehe | |
| <siccness> Hit3k: No, they're shit house | |
| <siccness> I would have loved to have seen it been a 50 over match | |
| <siccness> but the rain caused delays | |
| <siccness> and game had to be readjusted | |
| <Hit3k> freaking rain | |
| * yama thinks Bermuda would've been better off joining the windies | |
| <siccness> Boucher had a strike-rate of 241 | |
| <siccness> 75 runs from 31 balls | |
| <siccness> that's UNBELIEVABLE. | |
| <Hit3k> holy..crap | |
| <yama> woah! | |
| <TheMuso> But thats poor bowling as well. | |
| <siccness> i wonder if .AU can do that to .NL | |
| <siccness> maybe gilly can smack 100 of 18 | |
| <TheMuso> haha | |
| <siccness> i wanna see that ODI run-total record get beaten | |
| <cafuego> siccness: I doubt it. | |
| <cafuego> siccness: They didn't manage last time either. | |
| <siccness> True | |
| <siccness> Would be nice to see though | |
| <siccness> 1hr and 30mins till qualifying :D | |
| <yama> yay for watching the cricket on my mobile phone! | |
| <elkbuntu> both my parents officially fail St Patricks Day | |
| <Hit3k> couldnt get drunk? | |
| <elkbuntu> Hit3k, neither of them are wearing green | |
| * Hit3k knew he got his green mp3 player for a reason | |
| <Hit3k> yeah just realised i wasnt :c | |
| <elkbuntu> not even jocks or socks? | |
| <Hit3k> not sure about jock | |
| <Hit3k> s | |
| <Hit3k> oh look. green :D | |
| <elkbuntu> you win | |
| <Hit3k> hrm | |
| <yama> I'm sure i've got something in the fridge that's turned green | |
| <Hit3k> feisty is making my speakers buzz | |
| <Hit3k> VB comes in green cans for a reason | |
| <Phlosten> morning all | |
| <Hit3k> afternoon Phlosten | |
| <yama> hey Phlosten | |
| <elkbuntu> yama, you'd have to wear said food to qualify | |
| <yama> elkbuntu: I'm sure that can be arranged :p | |
| <Phlosten> laugh of the day, http://tinyurl.com/3ywuz4 | |
| <elkbuntu> yama, remind me not to hug you next time we meet | |
| <yama> heh :) | |
| * elkbuntu hugs yama before he wears mouldy food | |
| * yama hugs back, then scampers off to the fridge to 'get ready' | |
| <elkbuntu> rofl | |
| <Hit3k> I just found the greatest kids book ever | |
| <Hit3k> "The day jesus died" | |
| <siccness> stupid heart-burn | |
| <siccness> oh shit, paddy's day | |
| <siccness> i forgot :( | |
| <Phlosten> time for green beer! | |
| <siccness> im off to get a slab | |
| <siccness> bbs | |
| <Hit3k> bring me some | |
| <Hit3k> im gonna need to get wasted to work with feisty | |
| <MistaED> the wow starts april 19th :P | |
| <siccness> $40 for a slab of vb | |
| <siccness> pfft | |
| <siccness> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsRffbMiArQ | |
| <siccness> H. Gibbs with six 6's in one over | |
| <siccness> classic stuff | |
| <Tatey> http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12355-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=31199&messageID=579806&start=43 | |
| <MistaED> tatey: XD! | |
| <MistaED> that guy clearly knows his facts | |
| <Tatey> yea :P | |
| <Tatey> billions of dollars and serveral years! | |
| <siccness> Heh | |
| <siccness> Dude knows nothing | |
| <DarkMageZ> that guy needs some help | |
| <purserj> either that or its the ultimate in sarcasm | |
| <DarkMageZ> that's a level of sarcasm even beyond mine... wow his skills are l33t | |
| <DarkMageZ> interesting article tho | |
| <pschulz01> Anyone have and suggestions for 'postgres' GUI tools.. I have used 'pgaccess' but it stores passwords in the clear. | |
| <purserj> hmm nope sorry, I've always used the cli | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: so I can ask you all my trick SQL questions then :-) | |
| <pschulz01> tricky | |
| <purserj> heh | |
| <siccness> I've always cheated when it comes to queries | |
| <TheMuso> Is there a phpadmin like tool for pgsql? | |
| <siccness> yes | |
| <siccness> phpPgAdmin | |
| <pschulz01> siccness: Web based? blah!.. we'll maybe I'll give it a go. | |
| <siccness> time for lunch, bbs | |
| <pschulz01> pgadmin3 seems to be the go.. | |
| <purserj> So what should I put on my business site about Ubuntu? | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: Use it, it works! | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: Or do you want more detail? | |
| <yama> 'ubuntu is da shizzle' | |
| <purserj> I was thinking something a bit more businessy | |
| <purserj> yama: that isn't even english | |
| <yama> whatchoo talkin' about? | |
| <purserj> One of the Al TV clips was good at the show, spend the entire thing trying to get Snoop to actually open his eye lids past half way | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: "Use it, it works, and if it breaks you get to keep both bits." | |
| <yama> purserj: at the one I went to, he took the piss out of eminem | |
| <purserj> hmm lets try and keep the word "break" away from a services site ;) | |
| <purserj> yama: he played that one as well | |
| <purserj> you know what Im sayin? | |
| <yama> that's it :) | |
| <purserj> There was Cher, eminem (better know as Missy "Misdemeanour" Elliot"), Snoop, Paul McCartney, Keith Richards | |
| <yama> was there celine dion? | |
| <yama> I don't think he had Paul McCartney, Keith Richards or snoop at the one I went to | |
| <purserj> yup celine was good | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: Are you using postgresql? | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: I'm trying to get a fresh install up and running,.. but I can't see what the 'easy' way is... getting a database up is OK, but I always seem t get stuck on 'pg_hpa.conf' and friends... and network/socket access. | |
| <siccness> I need to build a $900 box | |
| <purserj> pschulz01: yeah my blog is postgres based, and the accounting package I use is sql-ledger which uses postgres | |
| <pschulz01> Which version? | |
| <purserj> 8.x | |
| <purserj> hold on let me check | |
| <pschulz01> I can access via CLI.. | |
| <purserj> 8.0.8 | |
| <purserj> okay so whats the error message you're getting? | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: 'password' not accepted.. | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: I'll have to get back to you.. (sorry) | |
| <purserj> no probs | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: Going out for a bit. | |
| *** Hit3k_ is now known as Hit3k | |
| <Phlosten> man telstra are good, got an email telling me i have been throttled. and i havent been throttled | |
| * yama wants to throttle Sol at Telstra | |
| <purserj> Sol? | |
| <Phlosten> the dude running telstra | |
| <Phlosten> Truijuio or whatever his surname is | |
| <yama> yes | |
| <yama> annoying american guy | |
| <purserj> to take this Ubuntu related: how does this sound: http://k-sit.com/Linux_Services | |
| <Rothbuntu> mmmm just got a 500 gig drive | |
| <Phlosten> Rothbuntu, wheres mine? | |
| <siccness> 500gig, boo | |
| <Jeste1> Rothbuntu: Where did you get it? I'm in the market for a new drive | |
| <siccness> 320gb is the best value for money atm i believe | |
| *** Jeste1 is now known as Jesta | |
| <Rothbuntu> 500 gig for $255 | |
| <Jesta> nice, pretty cheap | |
| <Rothbuntu> yeah 50c a gig i couldnt pass that up for the size | |
| <siccness> $219.00HDD WESTERN DIGITAL 500GB 7200RPM SATA2 16MB | |
| <Rothbuntu> mines segate and pata | |
| <siccness> why pata if you dont me asking? | |
| <Rothbuntu> compatability :( i only got 1 sata mobo | |
| <siccness> ah | |
| <Rothbuntu> external caddy is pata as well | |
| <siccness> I'm in the process of dumping all my pata crap | |
| <Rothbuntu> i was tempted to get a sata dvd drive though but meh maby when i do the next big upgrade ill get all sata stuff | |
| <Rothbuntu> yeah pata is getting a bit hard to find NEW in stores :s | |
| <siccness> SATA is just cool | |
| <siccness> and im only basing it on the fact for the smaller cables :) | |
| <Phlosten> sata is great, apart from the ultra shit plugs they have | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <siccness> flimsy shit | |
| <Phlosten> yeah | |
| <siccness> still better than bent pins :P | |
| <Phlosten> every tafe night we get a heap of 'sir, my hdd's not working' and replies of 'try fiddling with those plugs, they suck ass' | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Rothbuntu> sata is about the transfer speed more than anything 3gig/ps against 133 meg | |
| <siccness> <--hasn't noticed any improvement in transfer | |
| <Phlosten> 3gig if you wish hard enough | |
| <Phlosten> 1.5gig more realistic | |
| <Rothbuntu> well so SATAII tells me me | |
| <siccness> $240.90Seagate 500GB SATAII 7200.10 16MB Cache NCQ (ST3500630AS) <--thats what I want | |
| <siccness> NCQ baby! | |
| <siccness> now that there's support for it | |
| <Rothbuntu> add %10 for adelaide prices | |
| <siccness> that was a QLD listing | |
| <Phlosten> 500GB, far too much to back up :D | |
| <siccness> I can't get it that cheap in VIC | |
| <Rothbuntu> adelaide is a joke for pc hardware :( | |
| <Phlosten> come to rural australia | |
| <Phlosten> adelaide will look cheap | |
| <Phlosten> that 500GB drive would cost you double that here | |
| <siccness> Phlosten: Do a trip north or south | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <Rothbuntu> on some thigns its still cheeper for me to by in melb and syd and pay postage :S | |
| <siccness> when you upgrade | |
| <Phlosten> i just buy from ebay | |
| <Phlosten> the basics are pretty comparable but once you step up the differences are rediculous | |
| <Phlosten> i bought my last hard disk here which was worthwhile. cause it crapped itself and i could take it somewhere locally to replace | |
| <siccness> I might do a calculation on value for money on HDDs | |
| <Phlosten> see which spinning chunk of rust is better than the others? | |
| <Rothbuntu> lol that is a never ending task | |
| <siccness> Phlosten: haha yeah | |
| <siccness> I think it's fair to completely ignore Samsung, agreed? | |
| <Phlosten> samwho? | |
| <siccness> Exactly. | |
| <quail> afternoon all | |
| <Phlosten> howdy quail | |
| <quail> whats been happening | |
| <Rothbuntu> anyone have raid on their ubuntu install ? | |
| <Phlosten> weve been discussing how Rothbuntu is going to shout as all 500GB drives | |
| <Phlosten> us | |
| <quail> i am playing with a boxen that ~50Km away from me | |
| <Rothbuntu> group buy !! | |
| <Rothbuntu> is wine on a p2-400 with 512 ram ok ?? | |
| <quail> depends on what you want to run | |
| <siccness> i might use excel to calculate this | |
| <Rothbuntu> prolly just utorrent :s i just love utorrent so much i cant bare to lose it | |
| <siccness> Ok, results are in :) | |
| <siccness> Maxtor PATA 250GB for $89 is the best value for money | |
| <siccness> with a .356 cents per GB | |
| <siccness> s/cents/dollar | |
| <tuppa> still using PATA? | |
| <siccness> best value for money SATA drive is, Maxtor 250GB at $95 | |
| <siccness> So the 250GB drives are still considered the best value for money; however, 250 sucks. | |
| <siccness> so in reality, if you were looking for a bigger drive, say a 320GB, you're eyes should be on the Western Digital drive. | |
| <siccness> Unless of course you're one of those people who prefer Seagate over WD. | |
| <tuppa> they all die | |
| <tuppa> :( | |
| <siccness> Well yes. | |
| <Jeste1> yeah, I love utorrent as well :D | |
| *** Jeste1 is now known as Jesta | |
| <lisapc> does utorrent run on ubuntu edgy? | |
| <MistaED> lisapc: yep but under wine, so not native | |
| <lisapc> :( | |
| <lisapc> does it support encryption? | |
| <MistaED> yeah i think so | |
| <Jesta> just a quick question, is KDE or GNOME better? or are they just used for different things | |
| <MistaED> jesta: they both have their pros, cons and fanboys, but both are great desktop environments | |
| <Jesta> MistaED: So if I'm using GNOME theres not really much point changing? | |
| <MistaED> it's really up to you which one you prefer | |
| <MistaED> jesta: only to see what else there is i guess | |
| * quail finds gnome is better | |
| <quail> but kde is prob better now than when i last used it | |
| <Jesta> I installed KDE on my Ubuntu box and find it......like a crappy copy of windows | |
| <Jesta> I prefer GNOME I think | |
| <MistaED> it also matters which distribution you go with too, one desktop might be more fine tuned than the other | |
| <Jesta> thanks, now I've got another question O:-) | |
| <Jesta> I've got some new gnome themes and I have tried to install them. The installer says that they have to be in .tar.gz format (they are) but when I try to install them It says that they are corrupt? | |
| <Jesta> Is there some special terminal command I have to run? | |
| <MistaED> at the moment i prefer gnome because it has better management of external drives and hardware (due to the stronger connections with dbus and hal), but KDE4 will adopt these properly with 'solid' | |
| <MistaED> hmm, try opening them up with the archive manager | |
| <MatthewV> hey everyone.. long time no see | |
| <Jesta> MistaED: ok I've done that | |
| <MistaED> see if it is corrupt or not, or if it contains more .tar.gz files, often they package a few themes in the one .tar.gz and you need to extract them and then drag n' drop those ones into the theme manager | |
| <Jesta> doesnt have any, just some png's, jpeg's and a .desktop file | |
| <Jesta> and an xml file | |
| <MistaED> oh ok, well that should just plug in and work :S | |
| <MistaED> those are the files that the themer looks at to install it (notably the ,desktop and xml file) | |
| <MistaED> what theme is it, can you link me to it? | |
| <Jesta> hmm, i'll download any theme and try, maybe its just this one | |
| <Jesta> another* | |
| <MistaED> ok | |
| <MistaED> there's also a problem where you need the right gtk theme engine, those drag-n-drop themes will only work if the theme is based off of an already installed theme 'engine' | |
| <Jesta> ahhhh, how would I find out the engine? | |
| <Jesta> or should it just be listed on the download site | |
| <Jesta> GDM Greeter: I think thats the engine? | |
| <Rothbuntu> CURSES /me shakes fist at the gods | |
| <Phlosten> Jesta, no | |
| <Phlosten> the gdm greeter is just the graphical login | |
| <Jesta> oh, dam this is where windows beats linux | |
| <Phlosten> i forget what the default engine is, but one of the popular ones is the murrine engine | |
| <MistaED> jesta: usually they call it by the name of the engine + style of it, like "murrine reallycoolstyle" or "clearlooks evenbetterstyle" | |
| * quail loves the murrine engine | |
| <Jesta> this one is Avio-GDM | |
| <Jesta> si the Avio engine? | |
| <Phlosten> that sounds like a theme just for the graphical login | |
| <Jesta> so* | |
| <Jesta> lol probably is knowing me | |
| <Phlosten> which is called 'gdm' | |
| <Phlosten> Jesta, where are you looking at these themes? | |
| <Jesta> gnome-look.org | |
| <Jesta> I think I went to the wrong cataegory | |
| <Phlosten> yes | |
| <Rothbuntu> brb | |
| <Phlosten> you dont want 'GDM Theme' category | |
| <Jesta> any idea which one I should be in? | |
| <Phlosten> Jesta, click on GTK 2.x on the left | |
| <Jesta> ok, doing now | |
| <Phlosten> once you get there you will see a few with 'Murrina whatever' they require a theme engine that isnt installed by default | |
| <Phlosten> then there are ' Candido whatever',..another engine again | |
| <Phlosten> Jesta, also try art.gnome.org | |
| <lisapc> anyone here using ktorrent? | |
| <Jeste1> Phlosten: thanks, my new theme is great! | |
| <Rothbuntu> mmm 500 gig hdd still translates in to 450 gig of actual space >_< | |
| <Jeste1> I hate how they brand it like that | |
| <Fujitsu> 500GB vs. 450GiB. | |
| *** windowsslayer is now known as lucas1 | |
| <Hit3k> 500Gb | |
| <Rothbuntu> the old story of that guy who sued dell !! for false advertising | |
| <Rothbuntu> dont rember if he won or not | |
| <lucas1> hi | |
| <Rothbuntu> no | |
| <Jeste1> lucas1: hey | |
| <Rothbuntu> O_o | |
| <Rothbuntu> a 320 gig and 500 gig only equal 762.9 gigs of actual space :( | |
| <quail> well irssi is not that hard after all | |
| <MistaED> about the drives, and if you use ext3 you looks a great deal more :P *shot* | |
| <Rothbuntu> O_o ORALY! | |
| <Rothbuntu> once i get raid, utorrent and no-ip.com hapening on this new server setup ill be down to 1 windows box :) | |
| <Fujitsu> no-ip.com? Try ddclient | |
| <Rothbuntu> damn you linux and your infinate options >:o | |
| <Rothbuntu> raiding these to 40 gig drives is my first mission | |
| <Rothbuntu> is my swap file supposed to be in an extended partition ?? | |
| <Hit3k> mine is on ubuntu | |
| <siccness> i just had the hottest curry ever | |
| <Rothbuntu> SIF | |
| <siccness> it's actually numbed my stomache | |
| <purserj> drink lots of milk | |
| <siccness> water with ice | |
| <purserj> milks better, nuetralises the spice | |
| <siccness> Rothbuntu: no he didnt win | |
| <Rothbuntu> water with sugar dissolved in it | |
| <Rothbuntu> i know these things g/f is indian | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: I've figured out what I needed to.. pgadmin3 is really cool.. once you figure out how to get it working. | |
| <purserj> heh | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: I had to change the 'pg_hba.conf' to allow the postgres to connect over the TCP socket as 'trust' and then I can create other users etc. | |
| <purserj> yup | |
| <pschulz01> The problem (and it's similar to MySQL) is that the tools generally use TCP sockets rather than the unix sock.. and there is generally no auto way of having these setting configured safely... | |
| <pschulz01> so you are locked out until you can figure out how to open it up enough to do what you want. | |
| <purserj> I think postgres assumes you have a bit more knowledge than mysql does | |
| <purserj> mysql manages user access in the actual db system, whereas postgres does it outside the system | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: Does it | |
| <pschulz01> ? | |
| <purserj> yeah | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: I added a password using 'pgadmin3' and it's different to my regular username/password. | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: postgresql-8.2 | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: Ta.. It was what I was originally used to, then I had to deal with MySQL.. now I'm going back to postgresql for an app. I'm building. | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: back later.. | |
| <siccness> my stomache was fixed by a bourbon | |
| <siccness> nothing bourbon cant fix | |
| *** Hit3k_ is now known as Hit3k | |
| *** Hit3k_ is now known as Hit3k | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Should I try KDE? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Anyone here? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How does exporting bookmarks work? Are they just saved in a HTML file? | |
| * MotherLUG is here | |
| <Fujitsu> Davo_Dinkum: In which browser? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ff and iceweasel | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> both on edgy | |
| <Fujitsu> The bookmarks are stored in a HTML file anyway, so I presume so. | |
| <siccness> Yeah, they export to html | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> That's it! I'm trying KDE! | |
| <siccness> why | |
| <Hit3k> yeah why | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Cos I haven't used it before | |
| <siccness> ok | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I might like it better than GNOME, who knows? | |
| <siccness> well i know all | |
| <Hit3k> its more windows like | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hit3k: I have used it a bit | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah I will use KDE because the GNOME version of gnewsense relies on a non-free font | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hmm copying 67gb over USB1.1 will not be fun | |
| <purserj> you're kidding me | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> NO | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *No | |
| <halex-ab> Good luck.. :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How else can I get these files off my notebook's HDD? | |
| <halex-ab> There's always the expensive route with an external CD burner.. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> halex-ab: Which would probaby take longer | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I'm dropping all the files onto my 160GB HDD | |
| <halex-ab> I'm guessing it's gonna be an all-nighter.. lol | |
| <purserj> http://radio.localfoss.org:8000 we're going to do this if it kills us | |
| <purserj> Click on the "Click to listen" link | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> 49.5GB of which is my torrent folder | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Do apps like F-Spot need any files backed up or converted before I get rid of F-Spot? | |
| <Fujitsu> Davo_Dinkum: I believe F-Spot by default stores all meta-data in its database, so it will vanish if you remove it. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> But the photos will be intact, right? | |
| <Fujitsu> I believe so. | |
| *** quail_ is now known as quail | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> !vrms | |
| <ubot3> vrms: virtual Richard M. Stallman. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.11 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 92 kB | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I'm reformatting my notebook, got any tips/hints or know of anything I should do? Or any files I should keep? | |
| <siccness> back up the data that you wish to keep | |
| <siccness> and dont forget about favourites/bookmarks | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Anything else? | |
| <siccness> I usually tar.gz the whole partition | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yes, but I'm not you :P | |
| <siccness> yes but you should be like me :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> No, then I wouldn't be me. | |
| <siccness> Exactly. :P | |
| * siccness runs | |
| <siccness> I'm assuming it's a linux box | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Oi! | |
| <Fujitsu> Davo_Dinkum: How about taking your entire ~? | |
| <siccness> so i'd say you have all your /home/* stuff backed up | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: GNU/ as well | |
| <siccness> and im assuming you've backed up config files | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Nah what config files do I need to backup? | |
| <siccness> well if you had an irssi config file that you wished to keep | |
| <siccness> you'd back that up | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Don't have one | |
| <siccness> yes maybe not irssi, but there are applications that you use | |
| <lisapc> siccness, lol | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Fujitsu: Is ~ root or home? I'm going to backup home anyway | |
| <lisapc> siccness, dont u ever sleep ;) | |
| <siccness> you may need to write down user/passes if you've forgotten some | |
| <siccness> as they may be stored as cookies | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> lisapc: Nah he just drinks | |
| <lisapc> siccness, every time I come here, YOU are here chatting :P | |
| <lisapc> Davo_Dinkum, lol | |
| <lisapc> is there any way I can copy files from my ubuntu ext3 to my NTFS partition? | |
| <siccness> lisapc: davo is right, i dont sleep | |
| <siccness> lisapc: yes | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> !NTFS | |
| <ubot3> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse | |
| <siccness> ntfs-3g | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> !fuse | |
| <ubot3> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse | |
| <siccness> but | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> !ntfs-3g | |
| <ubot3> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy) | |
| <siccness> i'd say you're better off using the fs driver in windows | |
| <siccness> to grab data from the linux partitions | |
| <siccness> you use vista, dont you? | |
| <quail> evening all | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> asta la vista! | |
| <siccness> ext2fsd <--download that for vista | |
| <siccness> assign a drive letter | |
| <siccness> and voila! | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Instant ramen! | |
| <Hit3k> is there fat64 yet? | |
| <siccness> no | |
| <lisapc> siccness, yes vista | |
| <siccness> actually there might be | |
| <lisapc> want to copy from ubuntu to vista | |
| <lisapc> siccness, ext2fsd???? | |
| <lisapc> siccness, i was told to follow this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 | |
| <siccness> ext2fsd is a driver and application you install in Vista that will allow you to read ext2/3 file systems in Windows | |
| <siccness> Yes you can use ntfs-3g (for Linux), if you wish. I choose not ot. | |
| <siccness> *to | |
| <lisapc> siccness, whats more stable and safe? copying from ubuntu using ntfs3g or copying from vista using ext2fsd? | |
| <siccness> The latter (in my opinion). | |
| <lisapc> siccness, what data and qualifications you using to come to that conclusion? | |
| <lisapc> siccness, what are your qualifications? | |
| <siccness> the fact that ntfs-3g b0rked two windows xp setups | |
| <lisapc> siccness, whos? yours? | |
| <siccness> Yes. | |
| <lisapc> when? | |
| <lisapc> how long ago? | |
| <siccness> about 4 or so months ago | |
| <lisapc> what version was it? | |
| <siccness> No idea. | |
| <lisapc> pls think | |
| <lisapc> i need to know that | |
| <siccness> Hold up | |
| <lisapc> before i make a conclusion | |
| <lisapc> ok ty | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness is thinking! Run! | |
| <bimberi> lisapc: it's much more sensible to do the writing using the operating system that is made to work with the filesystem being written to. | |
| <bimberi> you're writing to ntfs, hence use windows | |
| <lisapc> bimberi, can u explain that please. | |
| <lisapc> bimberi, ah ok | |
| <siccness> ntfs3g-0.20061031 | |
| <lisapc> bimberi, so you recommend using vista and ext2fsd and copy from ubuntu? | |
| <bimberi> lisapc: that's what i'd do | |
| <lisapc> bimberi, u done it? | |
| <bimberi> nope | |
| <siccness> I use ext2fsd all the time | |
| <lisapc> bimberi, makes sense. writing to the OS you are on | |
| <lisapc> siccness, it works on vista? | |
| <siccness> yes | |
| <siccness> fs-driver doesnt work in vista | |
| <lisapc> siccness, where can I get it pls? | |
| <siccness> but ext2fsd does | |
| <siccness> http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/ | |
| <lisapc> siccness, ok ty, i decided to do that | |
| <lisapc> i respect you and bimberi knowdledge | |
| <lisapc> brb | |
| <lisapc> siccness, Ext2fsd v0.31a is released. <-- this one you use? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How can I unmount a USB key mounted on /media/usbdisk ? | |
| <siccness> hang on lisapc | |
| <siccness> if i knew how to check the version of software in windows i'd have told you by now heheh | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> nm I fixed it | |
| <lisapc> siccness, ok | |
| <siccness> 0.31a yes | |
| <lisapc> siccness, it seems complicated to run | |
| <siccness> barely | |
| <yama> lisapc: I'd use ntfs-3g over ext2fsd | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Usually the version info is in Help>About | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: yes but that only shows me the version of the manager, and not the driver itself | |
| <lisapc> need to disable driver signature checking | |
| <lisapc> yama, why? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> oh | |
| <lisapc> yama, have you used it to write from ubuntu ext3 to vista ntfs? | |
| <lisapc> yama, you there? | |
| <siccness> lisapc: you only need to disable driver checking if you have vista 64bit | |
| <lisapc> siccness, dont laugh, but I cant find it anywhere to download from tht wesite :P | |
| <lisapc> i must be tired LOL | |
| <yama> lisapc: do you mean http://www.fs-driver.org/ or http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/ ? | |
| <lisapc> siccness, so when u used ntfs-3g, it made your ntsf partition corrupted? | |
| <siccness> the latter yama | |
| <yama> I have used the former, but not the latter. | |
| <siccness> lisapc: it stopped xp from booting | |
| <lisapc> yama, i was going to use ntfs-3g so I can copy from ext3 to ntfs. good idea? | |
| <yama> I've had excellent success with ntfs-3g | |
| <lisapc> siccness, it corrupted the boot sectors? | |
| <siccness> i could still access the data | |
| <lisapc> yama, so you copy from ext3 to ntfs wirghout problems? | |
| <Rothbuntu> ntfs-3g was good on my dualboot lappy | |
| <Rothbuntu> untill it wen t bonkers O_o | |
| <yama> lisapc: I've been using ntfs-3g in rw mode for months | |
| <siccness> lisapc: setup both if you want | |
| <lisapc> Rothbuntu, im running dualboot lappy now with Vista and Edgy | |
| <yama> no problems copying data | |
| <lisapc> yama, raw mode? | |
| <siccness> rw mode | |
| <siccness> read/write | |
| <Rothbuntu> shweet no vita for me though i cbf | |
| <lisapc> yama, im about to install it now | |
| <lisapc> brb | |
| <lisapc> yama, u there? | |
| <lisapc> hello??? | |
| <siccness> yama's a busy man | |
| <lisapc> do I add all 3 repos? | |
| <lisapc> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ <-- not clear | |
| <lisapc> L( | |
| <lisapc> :( | |
| <siccness> hold up | |
| <lisapc> siccness, it says just add ONE | |
| * Fujitsu screams. | |
| <lisapc> but one what? | |
| <yama> lisapc: add only one | |
| <lisapc> Fujitsu, go away | |
| <yama> one repository line | |
| <lisapc> yama, one what? edgy has 3 lines for repos | |
| <siccness> add one | |
| <siccness> who cares just add one | |
| <lisapc> yama, only need to add deb http://ntfs-3g.sitesweetsite.info/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all ? | |
| <yama> lisapc: yes | |
| <lisapc> yama, when i upgrade it only wants to insytall 1 thing: mpount | |
| <lisapc> pmount | |
| <yama> have you updated as well? | |
| <lisapc> yes | |
| <lisapc> update and then upgrade | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Will I have any problems copying my home folder over to the USB HDD while I'm logged in? Or should I do it as root? | |
| <lisapc> and it says 1 thing to upgrade | |
| <lisapc> pmont | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: itll be fine | |
| <lisapc> yama, why only pmount? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: OK cheers | |
| <yama> lisapc: have you done 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-config' ? | |
| <lisapc> yama, the website says to first to update and upgrade | |
| <lisapc> im at upgrade step | |
| <lisapc> yama, do I need pmount? | |
| <yama> yes you do | |
| <lisapc> it says wanring untrusted pachagnes | |
| <lisapc> ok to instyall? | |
| <lisapc> warning | |
| <yama> did you add the keys? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Stupid shortcut to examples folder | |
| * Davo_Dinkum deletes shortcut | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Take that" | |
| <siccness> you can exclude symlinks from cp | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *Take that! | |
| <yama> lisapc: ' wget http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/givre_key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add - ' | |
| <lisapc> yama, added keys now | |
| <lisapc> yama, still warning me! ok to install pmount? | |
| <yama> it should be fine | |
| <lisapc> WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed! pmount | |
| <lisapc> ok | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: How can I copy my home folder as root? Will sudo nautilus do it? | |
| <lisapc> ok done | |
| <siccness> use the command line man | |
| <lisapc> yama, now I type gksu ntfs-config ? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: I am | |
| <yama> Davo_Dinkum: sudo cp -a <source> <destination> | |
| <lisapc> Davo_Dinkum, gkduso nautilus | |
| <lisapc> Davo_Dinkum, gksudo nautilus | |
| <yama> lisapc: just follow the directions as they say and you should be fine | |
| <lisapc> Davo_Dinkum, be careful | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> lisapc: What? In root? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> yama: Is that <source folder> and <destination folder>? | |
| <siccness> yes it is | |
| <yama> Davo_Dinkum: yes | |
| <siccness> but there's no such thing as /folders/ :P | |
| <lisapc> Davo_Dinkum, that loads nautilus as root | |
| <lisapc> Davo_Dinkum, u can then do whatever u need. be careful | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Directory then | |
| <yama> Davo_Dinkum: if you want to time how long it takes, prefix the command with 'time' | |
| <lisapc> yama, im confused. after upgrade and pmouint was installed. what next? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> yama: Ah OK thanks | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: there might even be a hash feature in cp | |
| <siccness> so you can get a status bar | |
| <lisapc> yama, it talks about 2 methods | |
| <yama> lisapc: follow the steps for automatic configuration | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> yama: Wait how do I prefix a command? | |
| <lisapc> yama, Automatic Configuration or Manual Confiruation? | |
| <lisapc> yama, ok brb | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> sicc: Wait how do I prefix a command? | |
| <yama> Davo_Dinkum: just add the word to the beginning | |
| <yama> so 'time cp -a <source> <destination>' | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> OK | |
| <lisapc> yama, it now says: To work at his full capability, ntfs-3g recommend a new fuse module. | |
| <lisapc> We recommend you to install it. | |
| <lisapc> yama, that wasnt covered on website. | |
| <lisapc> yama, whats a new fuse module? | |
| <siccness> FUSE = File System in User Space | |
| <yama> lisapc: it's a kernel driver that allows filesystems to be mounted in user space (not in the kernel) | |
| <lisapc> yama, wesite doesnt talk about that. why? | |
| <yama> lisapc: dunno. But you should install it | |
| <lisapc> yama, how? | |
| <yama> does it give you an option? | |
| <siccness> i think it's fuse-module, but dont hold me to it | |
| <lisapc> yama, none! but i moved on. enable write support for internal or external device | |
| <lisapc> is internal device my hard drive? | |
| <yama> yes | |
| <lisapc> whats external device? dvd writer? | |
| <siccness> no | |
| <lisapc> or external hdd? | |
| <siccness> external hdd | |
| <yama> the latter | |
| <lisapc> ok | |
| <lisapc> ill only tick internal device then | |
| <lisapc> or does ticking both hurt as I may get external hdd later? | |
| <yama> you can select both, and if in the future you add an external drive it'll work | |
| <lisapc> yama, :) ok | |
| <yama> I've got 2 external HDDs, and when I plug them in they just work automagically | |
| <lisapc> yama, it finoshed that task | |
| <lisapc> yama, what now? do I need to reboot? | |
| <yama> no way, this is linux :) | |
| <lisapc> lol | |
| <lisapc> is it ready t write to now? | |
| <yama> generally, you only need to reboot if you change the kernel itself | |
| <lisapc> ok i didnt know that | |
| <yama> it should be | |
| <lisapc> ill try it | |
| <lisapc> brb | |
| <siccness> yama: stupid linux, why can't you magically change kernel versions without rebooting :P | |
| <lisapc> yama, what are the limitations you found? can it write all files, eg. mpeg, compressed, encrypted files to NTFS? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What are xml files and why are they causing errors? | |
| <Fujitsu> Compressed and encrypted can't be done, AFAIK. | |
| <yama> lisapc: it doesn't do encrypted or compressed files yet | |
| <siccness> XML - Extensible Markup language | |
| <lisapc> Fujitsu, so what files can I copy from edgy ext3 to NTFS? | |
| <siccness> everything else, lisapc | |
| <lisapc> so i cant copy mpeg or avi or PGP files?? | |
| <yama> lisapc: more info at http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> !xml | |
| <lisapc> siccness, what about the one from Vista? | |
| <ubot3> Factoid xml not found | |
| <purserj> !XML | |
| <yama> lisapc: you can. But some filesystems have in-built encryption. That isnt supported by this driver | |
| <lisapc> siccness, does Ext2fsd allow to copy from ext3 compressed and encrypted files? | |
| <yama> the files themselves are irrelevant | |
| <Fujitsu> lisapc: I took your meaning to be different. | |
| <siccness> compressed, yes | |
| <siccness> not sure on encrypted | |
| <lisapc> i have some files I encrypted using pgp | |
| <lisapc> can they be copied? | |
| <yama> siccness: does Ubuntu even allow compressed ext2/3 volumes? | |
| <Fujitsu> lisapc: Of course. | |
| <lisapc> what about AVI and MPEG files? | |
| <Fujitsu> lisapc: Any files can be copied. | |
| <Fujitsu> They're just files. | |
| <lisapc> Fujitsu, i thought u said encrypted or compressed files cant? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> !cp | |
| <ubot3> Factoid cp not found | |
| <siccness> yama: no idea, dont use Ubuntu | |
| <Rothbuntu> ARG why not raid in gparted | |
| <Fujitsu> lisapc: I presumed you were talking about the features of NTFS. I was apparently wrong. | |
| <siccness> I'm slightly confused by all this. I'm not entirely sure why an ecrypted file can't be copied? | |
| <yama> there is a difference here. If the files themselves are compressed/encrypted, that's fine. | |
| <lisapc> yama, how do I now copy files from edhy to vistas ntfs? | |
| <lisapc> Fujitsu, ok | |
| <siccness> yama: yeah exactly | |
| <yama> siccness: NTFS (and certain other FSs) allow for compression and encryption at the filesystem level. That is different from file-level encryption/compresson | |
| <siccness> Yeah | |
| <Fujitsu> ntfs-3g can't handle compression or encryption at the filesystem level on NTFS. That doesn't affect copying file to it. | |
| <yama> if the file is compressed/encrypted at the file (not filesystem) level, you can do whatever you want with it | |
| <yama> if it's compressed/encrypted at the filesystem level, the FS friver needs to be able to read it. | |
| <lisapc> yama, it seems to copy ok :) | |
| <lisapc> Fujitsu, ok | |
| <lisapc> i just copied a 760MB AVI from ubuntu to vista ntfs | |
| <lisapc> seemed to have worked | |
| <yama> yep, the file type doesn't matter :) | |
| <lisapc> excellent | |
| <lisapc> this is great | |
| * lisapc dances with joy | |
| <siccness> holy crap, it's only 11:11 here :| | |
| <lisapc> can this corrupt my boot sectors as it did to siccness ? | |
| <siccness> wtf? | |
| <lisapc> siccness, thats interseting how your boot sectors got corrupted using ntfs-3g | |
| <siccness> i never said that | |
| <lisapc> siccness, you said you couldnt boot XP anymore | |
| <lisapc> hence, boot sectors | |
| <siccness> exactly | |
| <siccness> no | |
| <lisapc> boot = boot sectors no? | |
| <lisapc> siccness, so XP booted now? | |
| <siccness> i think you're taking the word 'boot' a little too literally | |
| <lisapc> make up your mind ;) hehe | |
| <lisapc> siccness, of course, because you said boot :P | |
| <siccness> yes, we're talking about computers | |
| <lisapc> boot means boot :) | |
| <siccness> nothing ever makes logical sense with computers | |
| <lisapc> ok | |
| <lisapc> :-) | |
| <yama> I might be careful with system files. To be safe, just work with your home dir in windows | |
| <yama> when using ntfs-3g | |
| <lisapc> yama, im using the 2nd ntfs partition I have | |
| <lisapc> the 1st has vista | |
| <lisapc> yama, what can it do? | |
| <lisapc> corrupt it? | |
| <Rothbuntu> how fun ! | |
| <lisapc> yama, happened to you? | |
| <yama> lisapc: ? | |
| <yama> I was just being precautionary | |
| <yama> I've never had a problem | |
| <lisapc> yama, cool | |
| <Rothbuntu> i have a 10 gig for / and a 40 gig for /home ... what should i move to the other 40 gig | |
| <pschulz01> Is it possible to run a local command from xchat? | |
| <yama> I stay away from system files when using ntfs-3g. Mainly because I don't need to access them from linux but also just in case. | |
| <yama> pschulz01: like a shell command | |
| <yama> ? | |
| <pschulz01> yama: Yes.. | |
| <yama> I don't think so. I could see that being a security problem | |
| <pschulz01> eg. ! command.. and get the output displayed in IRC | |
| <purserj> aside from cut and paste? | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: Yeah.. it must be possible. | |
| <lisapc> this ntfs-3g is great | |
| <siccness> Now regardless of all your opinions, Crunch Bars are the best damn chocolate bar around! :D | |
| <yama> lisapc: what's great is that it runs at full speed. The ext2/3 drivers for Windows that I've tried are slow when writing. | |
| <lisapc> yama, ok :) | |
| <yama> haha: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/16/1459254 | |
| <lisapc> anyone watching The Joanne Lees Story tomorrow night? | |
| <siccness> shit no | |
| <siccness> i have a life. | |
| <lisapc> why? | |
| <lisapc> a life on irc? :) | |
| <lisapc> u call that a life? :P | |
| <yama> lol! | |
| <lisapc> siccness, you never leave here | |
| <lisapc> lol | |
| <siccness> a life on irc > a life watching some crappy film made over some crappy incident that no one should care about | |
| <lisapc> siccness, unemployed? | |
| <pschulz01> lisapc: I was going to watch the bollywood movie on SBS | |
| <Rothbuntu> lool | |
| * yama wants to blow up bollywood | |
| <lisapc> siccness, you cant generalise and say that! you cant speak for 20 million people | |
| <lisapc> pschulz01, :) | |
| <yama> right after I blow up hollywod | |
| <siccness> I can speak for 40 million people if i wanted to | |
| <purserj> yama: whats wrong with bollywood? | |
| <yama> purserj: I grew up with my parents watching that rubbish. It's all the same. | |
| <lisapc> how can I convrt .wmv files to mpeg? | |
| <siccness> purserj: go down to your local video shop and rent: Seven Samurai | |
| <yama> not that Hollywood is any better, and in many ways it's worse | |
| <Rothbuntu> sanjay dutt FTW | |
| <siccness> That's what you want to watch! | |
| <yama> siccness: awesome film | |
| * pschulz01 has not watched any bollywood... so is looking forward to the cultural experience. | |
| <lisapc> siccness, you must learn that not evry human shares your interstest and beliefs. anf that doesnt make them more weired than you :) | |
| <siccness> yama: yeah | |
| <yama> pschulz01: don't let me stop you. Sample it in all its glory :) | |
| <lisapc> siccness, where is your empathic skills? :) | |
| <yama> I've just seen too much of it | |
| <Rothbuntu> its all singing all dancing glory | |
| <siccness> lisapc: if i knew the definition of empathic i'd tell you | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Error "Invalid paramaters" | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ^^^Message I get when copying a folder | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Should I just skip it? | |
| <yama> lisapc: there are ways to convert video formats, but remember that you would be converting from one lossy format to another, so quality will be lose | |
| <yama> *lost | |
| <lisapc> siccness, go and get some sleep. and wake up tomorrow with a DIFFERENT plan for the day! avoid IRC for 24 hours :) | |
| <siccness> no. | |
| <lisapc> yama, ok | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: LOL | |
| <lisapc> siccness, irc is for you like heroin is for a junkie | |
| <lisapc> if you dont get irc, you get violent and agressive :P | |
| <siccness> no, irc for me is a place to talk shit | |
| <lisapc> siccness, your like a junkie :) lol | |
| <lisapc> siccness, same thing :) | |
| <siccness> hardly. | |
| <lisapc> too much irc and not enough of normal life contributes to mental decay, depression, social disorder, agressive attitude etc | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I thought violent and agressive was siccness's normal state :P | |
| <lisapc> Davo_Dinkum, no! its all result from too much IRC :P | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: well that too :P | |
| <purserj> lisapc: please define normal | |
| <lisapc> purserj, normal definded as balanced | |
| <siccness> that doesn't answer the question | |
| <lisapc> purserj, there is no balance in siccness life. its all IRC :) | |
| <siccness> in fact, it just loops back | |
| <purserj> please define balanced | |
| <Hit3k> anyone use git? | |
| <lisapc> siccness, did you realise that too much irc and not enough of normal life contributes to mental decay, depression, social disorder, agressive attitude ? | |
| <Hit3k> or cogit | |
| <siccness> lisapc: yes | |
| <siccness> i had that before i was bone | |
| <siccness> *born | |
| <yama> normal is me, and that makes you all abnormal :p | |
| <Hit3k> yama, yeah well.. nuts to your normality!! | |
| <purserj> Hit3k: I've used git and once put together a tute for cogit | |
| <lisapc> purserj, 168 hours per week = evenly balanced with relationship time, face to face. work, going out enjoying the scenery etc! not 150hours IRC and 18 hours sleep | |
| <Hit3k> I do all that | |
| <siccness> 18? i dont even get that much a week | |
| <lisapc> purserj, i hope that explains it for you ;) | |
| <lisapc> siccness, why am i not surprised? :) | |
| <siccness> dunno, you tell me | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness doesn't sleep, he takes no-doze | |
| <purserj> lisapc: yes it does. It explains it all really | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> :D | |
| <siccness> no | |
| <siccness> big sicc just keeps drinking | |
| <Hit3k> purserj, how do i use it to get things off the net? is it even possible :| | |
| <lisapc> siccness, i am not aware of your personal situation. But if you suffer from depression, mental illness, social disorder, agressive behaviour at times etc. then pls consider not using IRC so much. eg, no more than 10 hous per week | |
| <siccness> see, relationship time doesn't affect me - I have no relationship time. | |
| <purserj> Hit3k: umm? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: You don't add a little no-doze to your drink? | |
| <Hit3k> nevermind | |
| <purserj> In what way are you trying to get things off the net | |
| <lisapc> purserj, ok im glad :) | |
| <Hit3k> http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=users/macslow/lowfat;a=summary | |
| <siccness> face-to-face? why would anyone want that? I'm aggressive, they'd end up being punched wouldnt they? | |
| <yama> I don't use IRC, IRC uses me! | |
| <siccness> work? like you said, im unemployed | |
| <lisapc> siccness, your agressive behaviour is a result of being in front of your PC 150 hous per week | |
| <siccness> scenery? yeah, there's a nice garden next to this window | |
| <purserj> lisapc: for someone who is supposedly a "qualified psychiatrist" you seem to be dispenssing alot of advice without knowing the full facts of the story | |
| <Hit3k> Im in front of my PC for more than 150 hours a week | |
| <lisapc> siccness, I can work out much about you, but the amount of time you waste on IRC | |
| <Hit3k> I'm not aggressive | |
| * Davo_Dinkum sits back and watches the flamewar | |
| <lisapc> purserj, not advice, recommendations | |
| <siccness> actually that's where you're wrong, you know nothing about me, lisapc. | |
| <purserj> He's interacting on a social level, this is a problem how? | |
| <lisapc> siccness, if you say so :) | |
| <lisapc> siccness, do you live near that river? | |
| <lisapc> that river in Africa | |
| <lisapc> its called The Nile (denial) :) | |
| <siccness> hilarious | |
| <lisapc> siccness, ty :) | |
| <siccness> gimme a yell when you make the big time | |
| * lisapc takes a bow | |
| <lisapc> siccness, I will and I wont have a problem finding you | |
| <lisapc> i just need to join this channel :-) | |
| <MotherLUG> Hey siccness Want a round of music quiz | |
| <siccness> at the rate you're going lisapc, you wont be here much longer :P | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, sounds good :) | |
| <siccness> MotherLUG: yup :) | |
| <lisapc> siccness, im loved here :) | |
| <lisapc> siccness, i mean well | |
| <lisapc> siccness, hoping for you a better life | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> lisapc: By? | |
| <MotherLUG> The Unforgiven by ? | |
| <lisapc> Davo_Dinkum, you for starters | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> lisapc: Umm, no. | |
| <lisapc> this place wouldnt be the same wihout me ;) | |
| <siccness> MotherLUG: id say metallia | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah it would be better | |
| <siccness> but that seems to easy | |
| <MotherLUG> woo hoo. One for sic | |
| <siccness> because half their albums are named after Unforgiven | |
| <MotherLUG> just warming you up baby | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <lisapc> Davo_Dinkum, tell me. Am i the only person ever that you had wished wasnt here? | |
| <lisapc> Davo_Dinkum, have there ever been anyone else you wished wasnt around, like you do with me? | |
| * yama awaits The Unforgiven XIII | |
| <purserj> bah this is boring | |
| * Davo_Dinkum snaps lisapc's keyboard in half | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Bye! | |
| <MotherLUG> siccness, where is my question | |
| <Rothbuntu> back a while ago the /. article 'Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products." LOL gold | |
| <lisapc> purserj, of course. too much IRC is boring for any human | |
| <siccness> MotherLUG: ok hold up | |
| <MotherLUG> okie dokie | |
| <siccness> Who sings "Lucky Town"? | |
| * MotherLUG informs purserj it's not pseudo echo | |
| <Fujitsu> Rothbuntu: That was great, I know. | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <MotherLUG> ummm | |
| <siccness> i chose this song as it could be confused with two other song names | |
| <lisapc> i saw pseudo echo 20 years ago | |
| <siccness> one which you've already mentioned | |
| <lisapc> at cabrammata | |
| <lisapc> Bruce Springsteen | |
| <lisapc> i cheated :) | |
| <siccness> So you ruined the game? | |
| <lisapc> siccness, chill, relax! Done be so serious | |
| <siccness> Anyone can cheat, there's no fun in that. | |
| <lisapc> its all for fun | |
| <lisapc> siccness, a game is fun, | |
| <lisapc> relax dude | |
| <lisapc> dont sweat the small stuff | |
| <siccness> no, a game is fun when played right | |
| <MotherLUG> we don't cheat here, we have honest fun | |
| <lisapc> siccness, a game is fun, period! if its not, then its no longer a game | |
| <siccness> MotherLUG: the other song title was "Small Town" | |
| <MotherLUG> nope, you got me on that one. I still had "funky town" going through my brain | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> Your shot | |
| <lisapc> Lips Inc did that too | |
| <MotherLUG> ok, who sings Agadoo ? | |
| <lisapc> i remember it from thr 80ś | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, i know this one | |
| <siccness> Agadoo, hmm | |
| <lisapc> bucks fizz? | |
| <siccness> I got no idea on Agadoo | |
| <MotherLUG> lisapc, be away with you swiftly whilst perched upon a phallic shape | |
| <MotherLUG> siccness, Black Lace | |
| <siccness> who the hell is that? | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> I shoulda just made a fool of myself and said ABBA (waterloo) :P | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, lol | |
| <MotherLUG> siccness, shoot | |
| <siccness> i reckon I can get you on this one | |
| <MotherLUG> probably, but I'll give it a shot | |
| <lisapc> shoot | |
| <siccness> hang on | |
| <MotherLUG> k | |
| <lisapc> siccness, ok | |
| <MotherLUG> brb | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, ok | |
| <siccness> The Australian rock band Weddings Parties Anything sung a song with the title about a particular day that occurs each year, what is the song name? | |
| <siccness> actually that might be a little easier than I thought. | |
| <MotherLUG> Saint Patricks Day? | |
| <siccness> Nope. | |
| <Hit3k> Australia Day? | |
| <siccness> Nope, | |
| <siccness> *Nope. | |
| <Hit3k> Christmas? | |
| <MotherLUG> Black friday | |
| <siccness> Nope and nope. | |
| <MotherLUG> Ash Wednesday | |
| <siccness> Hint: purserj is one | |
| <MotherLUG> Mental day | |
| <Hit3k> ANZAC? :p | |
| <MotherLUG> ooops | |
| <siccness> MotherLUG: LOL | |
| <purserj> umm | |
| <MotherLUG> Banana bender day? | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| * siccness shakes his head | |
| <MotherLUG> Father's DAy | |
| <MotherLUG> woohoo | |
| <siccness> BINGO | |
| <MotherLUG> It's such a fullfilling feeling when you get the answer correct without cheating | |
| <siccness> yes, it's even more fullfilling when you get it correct the first time and not the 20th time :P | |
| <MotherLUG> I know, but I didn't think I'd get it at all | |
| <siccness> heheh | |
| <siccness> We need more contestants for this game | |
| <siccness> It appears to me that it's always is, MotherLUG. | |
| <TheMuso> /c/c | |
| <siccness> s/is/us/ | |
| <MotherLUG> I know | |
| * MotherLUG is in a metallica mood | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <MotherLUG> I need to re-furbish my music collection. So much I lost was on cassette. | |
| <siccness> i got my man springsteen happening | |
| <MotherLUG> ahh, I miss bruce | |
| <siccness> his / e street's music is great | |
| <Rothbuntu> i put /home and /var on their own hard drives ?? is that fair enough there 40 gig each the rest of / is on a 10 gig hdd | |
| <siccness> im not sure if that made sense man | |
| <siccness> ok, i think i made sense of it: /home - 40gig, /var - 40gig, / - 10gb? | |
| <lisapc> Rothbuntu, why var on its own? | |
| <MotherLUG> siccness, I just discovered he has done 24 albums | |
| <MotherLUG> wowee | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <Rothbuntu> i dont know | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: ping? | |
| <Rothbuntu> dont i put heaps of shit in to var | |
| <siccness> MotherLUG: have you heard: American Skin (41 Shots) - Springsteen | |
| <Rothbuntu> ill prolly dump downloading torrents in to /var and finished ones to /home | |
| <purserj> pschulz01: yello | |
| <Rothbuntu> or is there a better approch | |
| <siccness> you download 40gb of torrents at once? :P | |
| <MotherLUG> siccness, nope | |
| <Fujitsu> Rothbuntu: Why not use LVM? | |
| <siccness> MotherLUG: download it | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: Are you using perl or php (or python) for you webpages - the ones talking to postgresql | |
| <siccness> oh i mean, legally purchase and download it :P | |
| <purserj> php | |
| <pschulz01> Ta.. I have perl questions :-) | |
| <siccness> Oh nOEZ | |
| <siccness> irc about to become cryptic! | |
| <Fujitsu> Something vaguely technical in #ubuntu-au? Impossible! | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Rothbuntu> lawd | |
| <purserj> what sort of perl questions? | |
| <purserj> I've used perl with mysql and postgres before | |
| <pschulz01> 'what library do you use?' | |
| <MotherLUG> siccness, I can't get it right now, but I will | |
| <pschulz01> 'recommend' even.. | |
| <purserj> DBD::Psql or something similar is probably your best bet | |
| <pschulz01> I'm looking at using 'catalyst'.. need to do some more research. | |
| <pschulz01> Yeah.. that sounds familiar. | |
| <Hit3k> i've never used perl with postgres | |
| <purserj> okay it should be DBD::Pg | |
| <lisapc> anyone here going to the harbour bridge tomorrow for the walk? | |
| <siccness> no, i have a life. | |
| <lisapc> ok | |
| <lisapc> im staying at home | |
| <lisapc> too many ppl there | |
| <lisapc> chaos | |
| <TheMuso> siccness: Thats news to me. :p | |
| <siccness> Me too actually. | |
| <siccness> It developed early this morning | |
| <siccness> where I actually missde the cricket for sleep. | |
| <TheMuso> haha | |
| <siccness> Mind you, I regret it. | |
| <siccness> I can't believe I missed the sth africa belt the shit out of .nl | |
| <MotherLUG> Good Night Everyone, I'm off for some Zzzz's | |
| <siccness> Night! | |
| <MotherLUG> night | |
| <TheMuso> Its alright for those who have pay tv. | |
| <siccness> Super 8s are on Channel 9 apparently | |
| <siccness> along with semi-final and final | |
| <TheMuso> right | |
| <lisapc> siccness, is that race cars? | |
| <siccness> Yes, cricket is now played in cars. | |
| <lisapc> supers 8s , is that car racing? | |
| <siccness> No | |
| <siccness> V8 Supercar is a car-racing series | |
| <lisapc> ok | |
| <siccness> Super 8s is the top 8 teams to pass to the second stage of the World Cup Cricket championship | |
| <lisapc> ah ok | |
| <lisapc> how many teams start out? | |
| <lisapc> 16? | |
| <siccness> yes | |
| <lisapc> what ;ports do socks proxy use? | |
| <adhok> grep sock /etc/services | |
| <siccness> if only I could do grep sock in real life to find that one missing sock | |
| <adhok> find / -name *sock* | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <lucychili> ls | |
| <adhok> find / -name *sock* -exec wash {} \; | |
| <lucychili> red sock blue sock hole sock different red sock black sock shrunk sock | |
| <Hit3k> find /room sock | |
| <adhok> siccness: you only have *one* missing sock? | |
| <adhok> oh eer ... its tomorrow already.. | |
| <lisapc> goodnight | |
| <lisapc> sleep | |
| <lisapc> bye everyone | |
| <lisapc> have a good morning | |
| <adhok> hi greebo | |
| <siccness> ahh | |
| <adhok> you're up late? | |
| <siccness> so cold | |
| <adhok> or still in the UK ? | |
| <adhok> hi siccness | |
| <siccness> hey adhoc | |
| <adhok> been reading hackaday.com | |
| <adhok> just looked a the time! | |
| <siccness> i got a couple of hours left in me | |
| <siccness> playin poker ;) | |
| <siccness> queen, jack off-suite | |
| <siccness> jack on teh flop! | |
| <adhok> um .. | |
| <adhok> been reading about PIC micro controllers and how to interface them to things =) | |
| <siccness> yeah that's a good way to fall asleep :P | |
| <adhok> been trying to figure out how to put together my next project =) | |
| <adhok> i slept a couple of hours this after noon | |
| <adhok> was reading ... | |
| <siccness> all i needed was a queen for a straight :( | |
| <siccness> heh cool | |
| <adhok> so im up late | |
| * adhok pokes lucychili | |
| <adhok> lucychili: go to bed! | |
| <lucychili> mff | |
| <lucychili> ive been reading managment wah | |
| <lucychili> http://lucychili.net/sfd/alpha.shtml | |
| <lucychili> oops | |
| <lucychili> not that | |
| <lucychili> http://www.jimcollins.com/pdf/Diagnostic%20Tool.pdf | |
| <lucychili> is compulsory reading at my work | |
| <lucychili> so im checking it out | |
| <lucychili> should be interesting | |
| <lucychili> to see how it is applied | |
| <adhok> you are yawning as much as me now ... | |
| <adhok> sleep time | |
| <siccness> sicc is the chip leader! | |
| <siccness> $17k baby! | |
| <greebo> adhoc, heya | |
| <greebo> lucychili, heya | |
| <adhok> *yawn* | |
| <adhok> morning all =) | |
| <Hit3k> zang zoom straight to the moon | |
| <lisapc> my download speed is 1.59 MB/s (1632 KB/s). Is that good? | |
| <adhok> lisapc: it'll do =) | |
| <lisapc> lol | |
| <lisapc> it says line speed is 11.64 Mbps (11641 kbps). | |
| * adhok downloads at around 50 KB/s | |
| <lisapc> my download speed is 1.59 MB/s (1632 KB/s). and line speed is 11.64 Mbps (11641 kbps). | |
| <lisapc> according to ozspeedtest.com.au | |
| <adhok> hi MotherLUG =) | |
| <lisapc> is http://www.google.com.au/ down? | |
| <lisapc> i cant connect to google | |
| <MotherLUG> Morning adhoc | |
| <lisapc> MotherLUG, morning. how is your boy doing today? | |
| <Hit3k> ... | |
| <Hit3k> lisapc, google is fine | |
| <lisapc> Hit3k, ok |