<jkeyes0> http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11123986&whse=BC&topnav=&browse=&s=1
<jkeyes0> hey bkingx
<bkingx> Yo!!
<bkingx> Howdy jkeyes0
<jkeyes0> btw, bkingx, http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11123986&whse=BC&topnav=&browse=&s=1
<bkingx> SWEET!!
<jkeyes0> I had to order one.
<bkingx> so how is bwlog running for you?
<jkeyes0> pretty nice so far. I haven't rebooted again, so I don't know what'll happen. I'm going to set up an ftp server on my file server so I can use that to back up the data
<bkingx> That's what I did...still havent got it tweaked just right yet.
<jkeyes0> which ftp server are you running?
<bkingx> For some reason when the router reboots, it loses it's settings.
<bkingx> I have a microsoft ftp server.
<bkingx> It is running an old site, so I just left it there.
<jkeyes0> nice
<bking_x> OK...how do I kill the other ghost users?
<jkeyes0> dunno. wish I did (for last night). they will time out in a while.
<jkeyes0> so how did you make the startup script for your router?
<bonbonthejon> jkeyes0: its in the wiki
<jkeyes0> brb, bad hail here.
<bonbonthejon> where is here, jkeyes0
<Zuph> well, I guess this kind of sucks
<bking_x> BRB
<Zuph> paying for internet at a starbucks because I lack it at the apartment.
<bking_x> That DOES suck!
<Zuph> oh well
<jkeyes0> no panera bread you can go to?
<etank> !hi Zuph
<ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
<jkeyes0> woo! it's a bot.
<etank> !hi | Zuph
<ubotwo> Zuph: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-kentucky!
<etank> LjL is the (wo)man
<jkeyes0> oh, btw bonbonthejon, Frankfort. hailed for about 15 mins.
<bonbonthejon> jkeyes0: I was going to say, in Covington/Cincinnati its only rained
<Zuph> !hi | Morons
<ubotwo> Morons: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-kentucky!
<etank> @lart Zuph
<Zuph> lawlz
<Koji-Murasame> is this the bot that lists software info too?
<Koji-Murasame> !g++
<ubotwo> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
<Zuph> !postfix
<ubotwo> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
<Zuph> !courier
<ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
<Zuph> !noobs
<Koji-Murasame> lol @ Zuph
<etank> !botabuse
<ubotwo> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
<etank> !Bot
<ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
<bonbonthejon> !botsnack
<ubotwo> Yum!
<Zuph> haha
<Zuph> !botsmack
<ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
<Zuph> :(
<etank> !smack
<bonbonthejon> :( don't smack the bot
<Zuph> :(
<jkeyes0> hey X626
<Zuph> I want to though
<X626> Hey
<Koji-Murasame> *Sigh* we are pathetic to be this amused using an IRC bot. . .
<X626> I'm very happy, and at the same time, highly ticked off. I get to completely REMOVE Windows, but the HD where Ubuntu is stored has a TON of bad sectors.
<X626> So I can't use partimage to back it up.
<jkeyes0> you could always do a system backup, then restore to a fresh install?
<X626> I don't want to do a fresh install...Im on dial-up, and getting what I have installed back would take FOREVER.
<jkeyes0> ah yes. good point.
<Koji-Murasame> X626: is it currently refusing to boot or is your data just corrupted?
<X626> It boots. The HD has been acting up lately, though. Slow access times, very noisy...I only found out about it when I went to make an image.
<X626> I guess I could try to transfer the system from the current HD to the new one (once I wipe Windows). Though, I'd probably get the same error.
<Koji-Murasame> It seems like there should be a way to back up anything that isn't corrupted and restore the files that are. . .
<X626> Honestly, I don't think any files are corrupted (yet). I even ran e2fschk and it didn't find any file errors.
<etank> X626: see if you can find an iso for Hiren's Boot CD
<etank> it has tools that can repair the bad sectors (or so it says)
<etank> i just used it on a machine this last weekend
<X626> Do you think SystemRescueCD would have any? (btw, how big is the ISO? Remember: I'm on dial-up)
<etank> I think that it was like 80MB
<etank> maybe even smaller than that
<Koji-Murasame> That's pretty small. About the size of Puppy Linux. . .
<etank> I think the tool was HDD Regenerator
<X626> Yeah, but huge for me.
<etank> another one on the disk is Spin Right
<etank> is there anyone in your area that has broadband?
<X626> Uh....I don't know. Probably, but I don't talk to many people (my mom has it, though).
<Zuph> etank: I think I figured out what's up with the mail server
<Zuph> although I don't have it here to test
<Koji-Murasame> !ping
<ubotwo> pong
<bkingx> WHOOOHOOOOO!!
<bkingx> The BOT is BACK!!
<X626> lmao
<X626> That's funny.
<Zuph> huzzah
<Zuph> !pong
<ubotwo> pong is an old atari game. It's fun!
<bkingx> !smack | etank
<ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
<Zuph> !pingpong
<ubotwo> pingpong - Free server for Amateur Radio convers - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
<bkingx> LMAO!!
<Koji-Murasame> !shout
<Zuph> huh.
<ubotwo> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
<Zuph> Strange
<Zuph> !shout | Zuph
<ubotwo> Zuph: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
<Zuph> !shout ALL YOU MORONS
<X626> It says NOT TO SHOUT, yet it shouts.
<Zuph> :(
*** Zuph is now known as All_You_Morons
<bkingx> Maybe it has to talk over you!
<All_You_Morons> well.
<All_You_Morons> :)
*** All_You_Morons is now known as Zuph
<etank> Zuph: what was the problem
<etank> bkingx: http://www.opendocman.com/
<Zuph> Unix usernames are case sensitive
<etank> yes they are
<Zuph> but postfix sends all usernames in lowercase
<bkingx> etank: any count?
<etank> !hi | dad_e_man
<ubotwo> dad_e_man: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-kentucky!
<Zuph> So even though the username was BradLuyster, it was looking for user bradluyster, two distinct users.
<etank> bkingx: look at it
<etank> i just found the darn thing
<dad_e_man> hi.. couldn't find a ubuntu tn.
<dad_e_man> so here I am.. nice to meet you all
<etank> Zuph: can't you create an alias??
<etank> nice to meet you dad_e_man
<Zuph> I dunno
<Zuph> I'm going to try out a bunch of stuff tomorrow now that I know this
<bkingx> Skimmed it....looks exactly what we need.
<dad_e_man> <----n00b alert
<bkingx> !n00b
<ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
<bkingx> LOL
<dad_e_man> lol
<bkingx> !newbie
<bkingx> Uh oh..I think I broke it!
<dad_e_man> at least I did my fair share of reading first.. still at wits end on a few things
<Zuph> dude, ubotwo doesn't know anything about noobz
<Zuph> Well, we are here to end your wits.
<bkingx> LOL...OK then...who wants a challenge?
<etank> i guess jkeyes0 didn't
<bkingx> NOpe
<bkingx> Looks like we can do some reverse proxy using iptables in a custom startup script.
<etank> dad_e_man: have you seen the stuff for the tennessee team?
<bkingx> How good are you, etank ?
<dad_e_man> wasn't aware there was one?
<etank> depends on what you are talking about
<etank> #ubuntu-tennessee
<etank> i am not sure if it is going het
<etank> s/net/yet/
<dad_e_man> ok.. don't laugh.. new to irc as well
<etank> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TennesseeTeam
<dad_e_man> thanks
<venomous> etank: you code geke!
<etank> the channel isnt there yet
<bkingx> etank: build me a script on iptables to run on the router.
<bkingx> venomous: you can do this too!
<etank> it is called ipcop bkingx
<etank> dad_e_man: not that we want you to leave here though
<etank> you are welcome to hang out with us
<dad_e_man> thanks again.. I appreciate that.. have a good one
<bkingx> yeah dad_e_man hang out!
<dad_e_man> ok
<dad_e_man> didn't want to invade your guys space or anything
<etank> you aren't
<bkingx> Ask away, these guys are very good and smart!
<etank> hang out
<etank> we can all learn from one another
<dad_e_man> Right now, I'm only struggling with a sound card
<etank> where do you live in TN
<bkingx> And everyone is glad to have newbies! BTW...I am one too.
<dad_e_man> can't seem to get 5.1.. just 2 channel
<bkingx> Been using Linux for about 2 months.
<dad_e_man> Bristol (blountville actually)
<etank> dad_e_man: have you joined the TN team yet?
<etank> there appear to be 22 members
<dad_e_man> nope.. I've been toying w/ various distros over the past few weeks and I've decided to keep ubuntu
<venomous> dad_e_man: use to fly out of tri-cities all the time. been over the track more times than i care to count!
<dad_e_man> so I'm very fresh to all this
<bkingx> OMG! I've been in Blountville too!
<dad_e_man> but I just recently got the ubuntu bible to assist me on my adventure
<dad_e_man> lmao.. been in blountville?
<bkingx> Been there a few times for the race, and raced RC cars there.
<dad_e_man> as in the blountville jail or just blountville
<dad_e_man> oic
<Zuph> IMO none of the books out there hold a candle to just USING ubuntu as your primary OS and refusing to go back to windows.
<bkingx> Just blountville!
<bkingx> LOL
<dad_e_man> I live right up from that track.. think it's closed now
<bkingx> NO WAY!
<bkingx> Well, maybe for the season.
<dad_e_man> looks to be, but they may have moved on to bigger better things
<bkingx> Really? Still doing the hobbies?
<X626> *evil laugh* Time to start DESTROYING Windows!
<dad_e_man> I can navigate around the repositories quite well.. and I've managed to do a few installs.. but some of them just don't work like my windows native a** wants them to.. lol
<etank> https://launchpad.net/~tennessee.team
<etank> just in case you want to join the team
<Zuph> well
<Zuph> Linux is not windows, first of all
<Zuph> They aren't going to work the same.
<Zuph> but for the most part its subtle
* etank agrees with Zuph
<Zuph> And the fact that open source programmers can't program a UI for the life of themselves
<Zuph> Programmers shouldn't do UIs :(
<X626> They focus more on the function, not the interface.
<dad_e_man> definitely, I'm already addicted to linux as a whole.. and I need a place to "blend"
<dad_e_man> hate everything about M$
<X626> Me, too. That's why I'm about to destroy my Windows installation.
<dad_e_man> still need it for a couple apps
<Zuph> X626: Form and Function are pretty damn well interlinked
<dad_e_man> but thats about it.. looking forward to making the move entirely
<bkingx> etank: ipcop isn't installed on this router.
<Koji-Murasame> http://dmartin.org/weblog/things-i-can-do-in-linux-that-i-cant-do-on-windows
<dad_e_man> will anydvd run in wine? that's the really the only one app I would truly hate to lose
<etank> bkingx: you are right it isnt
<bkingx> Ah...because it is a distro
<etank> it is a linux distro that makes your old hardware a firewall
<bkingx> Still not what I am imagining.
<Zuph> I plan on putting either ipcop or smoothwall on a PC for a routerbox for the new house
<jkeyes0> ipcop is great (limited experience with it, but it's a great proxy/firewall.
<bkingx> Man...this should be a no-brainer.
<bkingx> Seems like it would be nothing to make this work in a router.
<dad_e_man> how is the protection in ubuntu "out of the box" should I dig for firewalls and such?
<bkingx> And configure it through a web UI
<Zuph> dad_e_man: protection from what?
<dad_e_man> lol
<dad_e_man> well
<dad_e_man> since nothing is executable anymore.. I don't know really
<dad_e_man> I tried to think of a good response to that question
<Zuph> I mean, there aren't any viruses really written for Linux
<Zuph> You probably aren't vulnerable to any rootkits unless you're running a tasty looking server
<dad_e_man> it's still good to have a firewall around.. correct?
<Zuph> and because you don't have internet explorer at all, spyware is a non-issue
<Zuph> Yes, it's still good practice
<dad_e_man> well I haven't had IE for a long while now
<dad_e_man> Love firefox
<Zuph> Especially if you tend to lean slightly to the paranoid side of computing.
<dad_e_man> not really
<venomous> Zuph: etank let you know i got that stupid ispconfig thing workin'??
<X626_> I HATE dial-up.
<Zuph> I don't run any protection at all, and my computer is fine.
<Zuph> venomous: nope. What was the problem?
<Koji-Murasame> My wi-fi router has a firewall built in. . .
<dad_e_man> think mine does too..
<dad_e_man> WRT54g
<dad_e_man> v5
<X626_> Yes, it does.
<bkingx> sweet!
<venomous> i sit behind a router that serves as dns...blah, blah. i hadn't been telling it to resolve the domain name ispconfig forced me to come up with!
<etank> dad_e_man: for the most part there are no open ports in Ubuntu by default
<bkingx> wrt54g!!
<venomous> you guys with the wrt's still running linksys firmware??
<etank> dad_e_man: if you want a firewall look into firestarter
<dad_e_man> thats my next question..
<jkeyes0> wrt54g!!!!
<jkeyes0> dd-wrt as of last night for me, venomous
<etank> is is a gui for iptables
<Zuph> dd-wrt
<etank> os is it ipchains?
<bkingx> dd-wrt ROCKS!!
<jkeyes0> it's iptables, etank
<etank> dad_e_man: it works well
<venomous> congrats jkeyes0!
<etank> jkeyes0: thanks
<jkeyes0> :) :)
<bkingx> say again etank ?
<dad_e_man> I do my fair share of torrenting.. I'm looking for a bittorrent client that has forced encryption
<venomous> got a project on friday migrating arcserve to backup exec. anyone who's done that migration before know of any issues to look out for?
*** X626_ is now known as X626
<venomous> dad_e_man: your isp ever call you about the amount of traffic your torrent is generating??
<dad_e_man> well not yet.. but my being on a 10meg connection may have something to do with that
<dad_e_man> I don't get a lot of stuff
<dad_e_man> but I keep up with all my series that way due to lack of a tivo
<dad_e_man> prison break, lost, heroes etc.
<dad_e_man> been wondering if that letter is coming
<dad_e_man> I've heared about alot comcast ppl up in jc getting them
<etank> bkingx: say what again ?
<dad_e_man> we use charter
<bkingx> you were mentioning something about iptables?
<venomous> last week i had a 40gig d/l and i actually popped up on insight's radar for a phone call. this week...a 120gig d/l, but no phone calls yet!
<venomous> for all those with insight...turns out if you push more than 6.7gig in a 24 hour period....they WILL call you
<dad_e_man> wow
<dad_e_man> what was it?
<dad_e_man> never seen anyone dare upload a file that size
<etank> bkingx: i was saying that firestarter is a good gui for iptables on Ubuntu
<dad_e_man> must have been on a t-3 lol
<etank> he was getting rainbow tables
<venomous> still am...now getting the 120gig table
<dad_e_man> should I go ahead and port forward the router and set up a static ip.. or does upnp actually work in linux?
<dad_e_man> it's nice to feel like such a dumb*** all over again.. :-D
<bkingx> upnp works fine for me.
<dad_e_man> killer
<bkingx> although I am running a different firmware than you too.
<bkingx> Most of us are running dd-wrt on our routers.
<dad_e_man> your using the linux version right?
<etank> bkingx: did you look at that site?
<dad_e_man> by default aren't they already linux firmware though?
<dad_e_man> linksys routers I mean
<Koji-Murasame> I'm a little behind the times (just getting into podcasts), but if anyone is interested the last episode of FLOSS Weekly was an interview with Jeff Waugh.
<etank> dad_e_man: yep
<jkeyes0> reboot time. something's weird about Xorg, eh.brb
<dad_e_man> seems like I read that somewhere.. I saw it upped on demonoid the other day.. (the new wrt54g firmware)
<etank> that is why someone was able to write dd-wrt
<dad_e_man> don't say pod or you'll get sued
<dad_e_man> lol
<etank> there is a video on it now at hak5.org
<etank> peas in a ***
<dad_e_man> lol
<bkingx> etank: it didn't let me in
<bkingx> Timed out.
<etank> wait one
<bkingx> K
<Koji-Murasame> Alright. I'm headed out for a late dinner. Later everyone.
<dad_e_man> will I need to install xvid codecs in ubuntu?
<bkingx> later Koji-Murasame
<etank> bkingx: try it now
<dad_e_man> another thing.. how hard would it be to change over to vlc player?
<etank> easy
<etank> sudo aptitude install vlc
<dad_e_man> lol
<dad_e_man> ok ok.. just checking
<etank> then just right click on a file that you want to use vlc for
<bkingx> Nice etank !!!
<etank> go to properties
<bkingx> Just what I was thinking!!
<dad_e_man> love vlc player
<etank> somewhere in there is a place to allow you to make it open all file like that
<etank> i like vlc too
<etank> good stuff
<etank> cross platform
<etank> bkingx: did you see the file on the site?
<bkingx> still trying to get in.
<dad_e_man> yeah I dropped winamp and wmp for it as well long before I ever even thought about making the switch to linux
<jkeyes0> btw, for those interested, http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11123986&whse=BC&topnav=&browse=&s=1
<bkingx> userid and pass?
<dad_e_man> wow.. thats an excellent price
<jkeyes0> indeed. might be sold out, but the deal is supposed to be good until midnight tonight
<etank> i want one of those
<jkeyes0> i ordered one at about 7pm
<bkingx> Nice etank !!
<etank> did you get me one too :)
<etank> did you get in bkingx
<jkeyes0> nah, I got me 7, and I'm going to wear them around on a necklace, lording them over you all. :P :P
<bkingx> Yeah! Just what I was thinking!
<etank> bkingx: you saw the file then
<bkingx> Yep!
<bkingx> Why Ubuntu.odp
<dad_e_man> bling bling
<etank> it has user permissions and all kinds of neat things
<etank> nice
<bkingx> Very!
<etank> jkeyes0: that would just get you mugged
<etank> :)
<jkeyes0> hm, good point.
<dad_e_man> is there a way to bookmark rooms such as this one?
<etank> what client do you use?
<dad_e_man> gaim
<etank> i have done it with gaim but I dont remeber how
<etank> hold on and I will try
<dad_e_man> wanted to bookmark it because it will take my short bus riding a** ten minutes or better to get vlc on here
<bkingx> LOST is on!!
<dad_e_man> I'm failing the aptitude
<dad_e_man> thanks for that reminder
<dad_e_man> thank you thank you thank you
<dad_e_man> these shows kill me
<dad_e_man> they never get anywhere
<dad_e_man> if you like Lost you'll love Heroes
<bkingx> I LOVE Heroes!
<dad_e_man> didn't think I was gonna like it but I torrented 1-18 this week and now I have another affliction
<jkeyes0> Heroes!
<jkeyes0> Yatta!
<dad_e_man> I'll have to add the whatcha' ma'call it repositories as well in order to install vlc right?
<dad_e_man> the restricted
<etank> do the universe and multiverse
<dad_e_man> one more question I was wondering and I'll S.T.F.U... with all my brand newbianess
<etank> i add all repos on my systems
<dad_e_man> yeah thats the ones
<dad_e_man> sorry.. only read about them
<dad_e_man> was trying to remember
<dad_e_man> anyone dual boot windows home?
<dad_e_man> well you know how file sharing w/ home edition is a real bi***
<RoninX341> I don't have any windows home machines
<dad_e_man> if I mount the volumes in linux.. I can enable those volumes for file sharing through linux right?
<dad_e_man> as long as both machines have linux
<RoninX341> you mean have a dual boot machine and be in the linux side
<venomous> RoninX341: have you assimilated etank?
<RoninX341> then mount the windows part
<bkingx> etank: did you look at owl-dms>
<dad_e_man> yes
<RoninX341> then share with linux machines
<dad_e_man> yes
<RoninX341> that should be very possible
<dad_e_man> wonderful
<dad_e_man> thank you
<dad_e_man> now I'll just have to do my homework
<RoninX341> assume that you have ntfs-3g loaded if you are using ntfs on windows
<RoninX341> that will allow for read/write
<dad_e_man> unfortunatly on one of them yes.. but the laptop no.. its fat32
<RoninX341> once ntfs-3g is loaded just add your user to the fuse group
<RoninX341> fat32 is no problem
<RoninX341> linux can write to that natively
<RoninX341> venomous: I have dual a dual personality
<dad_e_man> yeah I read on afterdawn about some issues ppl were having w/ linux installs on ntfs partitions
<venomous> evidently...the more shadow-y side appears just as i'm about to punch out. later all!
<etank> later venomous
<etank> dad_e_man: look into switching to Xchat for irc
<dad_e_man> ok..
<etank> i can not figure out how to save the channel
<etank> i did it once before
<dad_e_man> it's ok.. I appreciate your time in trying
<etank> bkingx: didn't like the owl-dms that much
<dad_e_man> thought I was missing something
<bkingx> etank: cool
<etank> that is why i found the opendoc thing
<etank> it should work for what we are wanting
<bkingx> Can you install that on our server?
<etank> dad_e_man: what was your sound problem?
<etank> bkingx: not at the moment
<bkingx> LOL...right
<bkingx> But eventually, I mean
<dad_e_man> I can only hear 2 channel.. but I have a 6 speaker set up
<dad_e_man> was trying to get surround
<dad_e_man> other than that and the learning curve.. I'm in good shape
<dad_e_man> Redmond just lost another customer
<etank> don't know much about the surround sound
<etank> i have a laptop
<etank> not much to surround
<dad_e_man> lol
<dad_e_man> yeah I just got an acer dual core processor 100gig hd 1gig of ram for $599 at wally world.. isn't it great
<dad_e_man> oops, left out amd turion 64
<dad_e_man> but I'm currently on the desktop
<etank> i am still running on a dell inspiron 5150
<etank> it works well for me though
<dad_e_man> had a latitude.. it was tough
<etank> had this one for about 3 - 4 years
<dad_e_man> not tough enough to survive my stepdaughter.. lol she cracked the lcd the first day I gave it to her
<etank> not good
<dad_e_man> still works though.. just has a spiderweb on it now
<etank> i got the total care package for that purpose
<etank> course the warranty is up now
<dad_e_man> we ebayed that one.. wish we had the total care plan
<jkeyes0> wow, I hadn't played around enough with alsa mixer until just now. my speakers were only set at about half, and I enabled "Tone", which just makes them sound awesome.
<dad_e_man> doesn't have a 5.1 setting does it?
<jkeyes0> I've got 4.1, but it's got Front, Surround, and Center settings.
<dad_e_man> wonder if it would override the system settings on mine?
<etank> well guys it's been fun but i got to go
<jkeyes0> I had to edit the preferences to get it to show all the channels, but I've tweaked my speakers out a bit now, so it's playing much better now
<etank> dad_e_man: nice talking with you
<dad_e_man> at least I have sound.. I gave video linux a try but my sound card wasn't supported
<jkeyes0> later etank
<etank> come in anytime
<dad_e_man> u2
<dad_e_man> have a good one
<etank> we are actually having a meeting in here tomorrow at 8:00 if you want to join us
<etank> later jkeyes0
<dad_e_man> like the concept of video linux..
<dad_e_man> yeah sure..
<dad_e_man> if the demon babies don't intervene
<dad_e_man> It's been a while since I've met nice ppl on the net..
<dad_e_man> been going to the wrong places I guess
<jkeyes0> woo, installing feisty on my test machine.
<Takoda_Sky> :-D
<Zuph> bingo
<Zuph> that was the problem
<etank> what was the problem?
<Zuph> the caps thing
<Zuph> now I can't get outlook to connect to the smtp server though
<etank> Outlook is from "The Devil"
<Zuph> yes
<Zuph> It's also what everyone here knows how to use
<Zuph> so...
<Zuph> Actually Outlook express just sucks. Outlook paired with Exchange server is a damn good enterprise solution.
<Zuph> well this is an interesting conundrum
<Zuph> My VM seems to have corrupted a few sectors of it's virtual hard drive
<|{evin> ha
<|{evin> my PHYSICAL drive is hosed... top that
<Zuph> I'd love to FSCK the drive,
<|{evin> I did, no go :/
<Zuph> but it tells me fscking a mounted drive may cause severe file system damage.
<|{evin> the machine's up.. but everything's mounted read-only
<Zuph> so, do I run my backup copy of the VM and see if the error reproduces itself after 24 hours or so?
<Zuph> or just restore to the backup?
<Zuph> And being that the VM with the error is in a semi-production environment, how will I know the error isn't triggered by being somehow accessed?
<Zuph> well try the restore to backup thing
<etank> !uptime
<ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
<Zuph> anyone know anything about shell scripting?
<Zuph> :(
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<Zuph> my kingdom for a guide on how vmware manages vmdk files for a vm
<Zuph> also my kingdom for a guide for not stupid people on shell scripting.
<etank> !hi | bnizzel
<ubotwo> bnizzel: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-kentucky!
<bnizzel> hey
<bnizzel> how is everyone ?
<etank> so so
<etank> I hate Citrix MetaFrame 1.8 with passion.
<bnizzel> yea
<etank> it sucks
<etank> how are you
<bnizzel> alright, just working
<etank> brb
<bnizzel> i'm gonna have someone else i know join this group too
<etank> cool
<etank> bring'em on
<Zuph> BRING IT
<Zuph> WE WERE BORN READY
<bnizzel> yup
<bnizzel> glad to see a local group like this one
<etank> !hi | mngrif
<ubotwo> mngrif: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-kentucky!
* etank says "Man I am glad that the bot is back" :)
<Zuph> weirdo
<Zuph> Couldn't you just set up your own bot that automagically greeted everyone, instead of doing it manually each time? :)
<etank> i could. but i dont have the time :P
<Zuph> haha
<Zuph> So, anyone know anything about shell scripting?
<bnizzel> so is the meeting going to be on this irc tonight?
<etank> i am actually thinking of trying to write my own bot in python
<etank> just for practice
<etank> yep. tonight at 8:00PM.
<bnizzel> cool
<etank> Zuph: what kind of shell scripting?
<etank> brb
<Zuph> Simple shell scripting
<bnizzel> i know i gotta work late but i will try to be on here by then
<Zuph> basically, I want to write a script that automagically sets up a new user with the Maildir structure I need and a default password
<Zuph> I'm having trouble feeding a password into the passwd command, though.
<bnizzel> Zuph: so the script is trying to feed it into passwd
<Zuph> I just want to be able to create a user with some username and a default password with the only input being the username
<bnizzel> figure you could just write something for "user add"
<bnizzel> hrmm.. i dunno i would have to see the script
<bnizzel> but i already have LOTS of coding to do at work
<Zuph> useradd doesn't set a password, though
<etank> Zuph: can you use the useradd -p switch to specify a password?
<Zuph> nope.
<bnizzel> that is what i thought
<Zuph> that doesn't specify a password
<bnizzel> shitty
<etank> does that just tell useradd to prompt for a password then?
<etank> what if you have the script create the user and then call passwd (username) and then pass the default password to it?
<Zuph> I would love to be able to do that
<Zuph> I don't know how, though
<Zuph> honestly, it isn't worth this much time
<Zuph> I'll just create the users manually.
<Zuph> There
<Zuph> Done.
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<|{evin> http://fakrul.wordpress.com/2006/10/09/create-user-change-password-by-bash-script/
<etank> |{evin: is the google master
<|{evin> echo "password" | passwd -stdin "username"
<TheLighty> any cs people in here
<|{evin> computer science... counter strike... ?
<TheLighty> yes
<Zuph> I used to qualify as the latter.
<TheLighty> counter strike
<Zuph> But I haven't since 1.6
<TheLighty> well I put up some server's
<TheLighty> wanted someone to test them
<etank> test them how
<Zuph> at work, no can do
<Zuph> shoot people bang bang dead on them?
<TheLighty> hehe
<TheLighty> want to see how they run basically
<etank> not to change the subject but the next CC meeting is going to be on March 20th at 18:00 UTC
<etank> for all that are interested in attending
<etank> or if you are willing to cheer for me as I throw myself at their mercy and ask to be granted Ubuntu Membership :)
<etank> now back to cs testing
<etank> i've never played cs
<etank> does it run on Linux?
<bnizzel> so how many of you all are from lexington?
* etank raises his hand
<bnizzel> w0rd
<Zuph> cs doesn't really run on linux
<Zuph> I've heard of some success with wine
<Zuph> but also horror stories.
<etank> then im a no go then
<bnizzel> adobe??
<etank> counter strike
<bnizzel> oh making sure
<etank> so is 18:00 UTC really 2:00PM in EST during DST?
<Zuph> no
<Zuph> EST is UTC -4:00 during DST.
<etank> so what time is it in KY then?
<etank> 1:00PM?
<Zuph> What time is it in KY right now?
<Zuph> or at 18:00 UTC?
<Zuph> wait
<Zuph> I'm a moron
<Zuph> You're right
<Zuph> somehow I subtracted 4:00 from 18:00 in my head and got 15:00
<Zuph> well, being that it's not 16:22 UTC, I'm going to go get some food.
<Zuph> *now
* Zuph sighs
<TheLighty> [etank] does it run on Linux? the server is running on Ubuntu
<TheLighty> and I here that you can install CS on any linux as well
<etank> does the client run on ubuntu?
<TheLighty> I am told yes
<TheLighty> I do not play it
<TheLighty> me bad, have not redone my notebook yet to Ubuntu
<Zuph> Well, now all I have to do is wait for this server to fail miserably.
<Zuph> oh drupal.org, why so slow
<Zuph> Now this is strange:
<Zuph> From a virtual server, transfering data, I'm getting at MOST 300 kbps
<Zuph> Over a 100mbps network
<Zuph> Where I get good transfer rates from other virtual machines running on the same host.
<Zuph> And on an IDENTICLE COPY of the VM on another host, I get good transfer rates
<etank> are all of the vms configed to use the same physical nic
<Zuph> yes
<Zuph> But the nic is otherwise unloaded
<Zuph> I'm not trying multiple concurrent transfers
<Zuph> When VM1 is the ONLY vm transfering, it maxes out at 300 kbps, while when VM2 is the ONLY vm transferring, it maxes out at 100mbps
<etank> dumb questions coming your way:
<etank> do you have the vmtools loaded on the slow machine?
<etank> is the virtual nic set to auto negotiate or at 100MB Full Duplex
<Zuph> I don't have VMWare tools loaded on any of the VMs.
<Zuph> The virtual NIC is set to auto negotiate, but reports being connected at 100MBPS
<Zuph> Even if it were only negotiating at 10 mbps, though, it would get better performance than 300kbps
<Zuph> This is the same VM I was having disk read errors on earlier
<Zuph> I think it's a virtual disk problem.
<etank> sounds like it
<etank> do you think that it is a physical disk issue and the virtual disk just happens to be written at that spot?
<Zuph> that seems unlikely
<Zuph> Given that I've restored the VM from a known working backup by deleting the entire VM and recopying it.
<etank> oh i bet i know what it is
<etank> weird
<Zuph> what is that?
<Zuph> :(
<jkeyes0> way offtopic, but I've got to say, I love Wildfire / Spark. I set up a server for it here at work, and now I've got IM capabilities with coworkers.
<Zuph> Yeah
<Zuph> We're using wildfire here too
<Zuph> It's pretty awesome
<jkeyes0> just to be clear, there are no licensing issues, right?
<Zuph> nope
<jkeyes0> nice
<Zuph> etank don't leave me hanging :(
<etank> i was just saying that it is weired
<etank> all of the other vms are sending data at 100MB except that one
<etank> what is the guest OS
<etank> have you throttled the bandwidth for that one vm?
<Zuph> oh
<Zuph> No
<Zuph> I haven't
<etank> like you can with cpu stuff
<Zuph> ubuntu 6.06 server
<Zuph> I'm going to say it's a disk issue and see what I can do about it
<Zuph> until then, more developing.
<etank> but you have copied the disk to a different esx server right?
<Zuph> it's not ESC
<Zuph> *ESX
<Zuph> Just VMWare server
<Zuph> On my development machine, I have the working, known good VM
<Zuph> But it's a 12gb flat file
<Zuph> so to transfer it, I convert it to a growable file
<Zuph> burn everything to a DVD
<Zuph> and transfer it
<l90bpm> hello..
<Zuph> Hello
<jkeyes0> !hi | l90bpm
<ubotwo> l90bpm: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-kentucky!
<l90bpm> you guys welcomed me yesterday under the name dad_e_man.. just wanted to let you know it's the same fella
<Zuph> ah
<l90bpm> I'm not logged in as root today so I changed the name
<l90bpm> so how are things going?
<l90bpm> I like IRC.. can't believe I've been missing out.. stayed in the ubuntu help chat a while last night.. very helpful
<l90bpm> sorry to bother you..
<Zuph> For some reason I don't think he "gets" IRC.
<jkeyes0> ?
<etank> that was different
<jkeyes0> I sent him a PM back saying he wasn't bothering us, and that most of us are afk.
<Zuph> For some reason I don't think he "gets" IRC. :)
<jkeyes0> Zuph, not sure I understand.
<etank> if he sticks around we can help him get it
<jkeyes0> we need to teach him the wonderfulness that is Xchat, though.
<etank> or irssi :)
<jkeyes0> well yes. something other than gaim.
<etank> true
<Zuph> A different nickname because he isn't logged in as root?
<jkeyes0> eh, maybe it's a personal preference.
<jkeyes0> either way, he really shouldn't be logging in (especially not to IRC) as root...
<jkeyes0> I'm really enjoying Wildfire (the plugins are wonderful)
<etank> what is wildfire
<jkeyes0> instant messaging server, free.
<etank> !tell etank about wildfire
<jkeyes0> wow, they JUST NOW renamed the project from wildfire to openfire.
<etank> good
<etank> i thought that I was going frazy
<etank> s/frazy/crazy/
<jkeyes0> of course it appears the site is halfway broken. http://www.igniterealtime.org
<etank> i just went to the website and didnt see wildfire.
<jkeyes0> yeah, they just changed its name (today, like 15 mins ago). it's the same product
<etank> so that is the server and spark is the client
<jkeyes0> exactly. or any other jabber client.
<etank> guys im out for now
<etank> heading home
<etank> see you at 8:00
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<etank> \j #ubuntuforums-beginners
<etank> oops
<etank> jkeyes0: are you a member of that team?
<jkeyes0> yes I am.
<jkeyes0> probably forgot to mention that. :P
<jkeyes0> it's listed on my ubuntu wiki page though
<etank> i thought so
<etank> so they haven't said if I am in or not.
<etank> what do you think is happening
<jkeyes0> did they give you the quiz yet?
<etank> no
<jkeyes0> that should be the next step, after general introductions
<etank> what is the quiz
<jkeyes0> for me, they hadn't given one before, so they sort of made it up on the spot.
<jkeyes0> things like "4 ways to install software in ubuntu"
<jkeyes0> can you assist someone in configuring... (something)
<jkeyes0> generally easy stuff
<jkeyes0> off to dinner. be back later.
<jkeyes0> btw, etank, looks like you've done very well on their quiz.
<etank> what is not exact to what I said to the last question?
<etank> they only gave me 3 sentences :P
<jkeyes0> may have had somehting to do with the distro definition. it's a flaky subject, because OS and distro mean different things to different people.
<etank> linux is the os. Ubuntu is the group of packages around the kernel that make it a distro
<etank> i was not expecting a quiz
<jkeyes0> if I'd known you were interested, I would have given you a bit of prep. :P
<etank> i am on the unanswered posts team and no quiz
<jkeyes0> what's involved in that team?
<etank> trying to make sure that there are no posts with 0 replies
<jkeyes0> that sounds fun. but I don't want to overexert myself (I'm feeling stretched thin with the beginners team, but I think once we start having meetings it'll clear itself up)
<etank> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=216
<etank> jkeyes0: i hope that the membership part of the CC meeting on the 20th isn't that intense
<jkeyes0> when's the meeting, btw, and which channel? I'll do my best to be there.
<etank> it will be in #ubuntu-meeting on March 20th at 18:00 UTC (which i understand to be 2:00PM)
<etank> i like the new look to the forums and ubuntu site
<etank> looks really nice
<etank> when do they tell you if you are in
<etank> jkeyes0: i feel like i am being inducted into a fraturnity in there
<jkeyes0> did i miss something? (i've been learning gtk programming)
<etank> i did the quiz and they moved on to the next guy
<etank> no idea of how i did on their quiz
<jkeyes0> weird.
<etank> oh well
<etank> if im in great. if not great.
<jkeyes0> yeah, it's not a huge deal one way or another.
<etank> i almost don't care at this point.
<etank> I have other stuff im working with anyway
<jkeyes0> heh
<jkeyes0> btw, they didn't immediately tell me either. i just sort of noticed one day on the forums that I had been approved, then I got a +v in the channel.
<etank> they said that they would like to have me on the team
<etank> at least the bodhi guy did
<jkeyes0> bodhi's in charge, so it's entirely up to him
<etank> i passed

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