<cpradio> yep. which is what I have been reading other places too. all the others are stating to use Thunderbird to import Outlook emails and then copy the mail folder to Linux and import using Evolution or Kmail
<Seekker> ok
<Seekker> Here's a HOWTO
<Seekker> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210638
<Seekker> specifically for KMail
<Seekker> don't have to go through TB
<Seekker> just don't forget to save the addressbook along with the email
<cpradio> I plan on making a complete copy of her hard drive before starting this process.
<Seekker> good idea!
<cpradio> I just have to see if the Live CDs have 'nc' and 'dd' installed, if so I am all set
<Seekker> cool
<Seekker> good luck to you
* Seekker vaguely remembers using 'dd', but not sure if it was during installing Kubuntu, or if it was during playing with lfs [Linux From Scratch]
<cpradio> I just put a live cd in my VM terminal and it had dd and nc, so I think I will be good to go
<Seekker> yay!
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<derspankster> how come nobody's chatting?
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<Seekker> ;)
<derspankster> lurkers room
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<derspankster> anyway - just asking
<Seekker> or busy workin
<derspankster> could be
<cpradio> im preping CDs and such to convert my wife's laptop to Ubuntu tonight.
<cpradio> so I will be intermittent
<Seekker> okay, cpradio ... good luck to you
<cpradio> okay, got my first issue
<Seekker> what's that?
<cpradio> ran this on my main machine: nc -l -p 9000 | dd of=backup.img
<cpradio> ran this on the laptop: sudo dd if=/dev/hda1 | nc 192.168.0.100 -p 9000
<cpradio> it keeps stating no ports to connect to
<Seekker> hrm ... I've never used nc ... I'll see what I can google up
<Seekker> try this tutorial
<Seekker> http://www.rajeevnet.com/hacks_hints/os_clone/os_cloning.html
<Seekker> slave% nc -l -p 9000 | dd of=/dev/sda (Replace /dev/sda with actual drive on your slave machine)
<Seekker>
<Seekker> This will listen at port 9000 and whatever it gets at port 9000 will hand over to dd command and dd will simply write that to on slave harddrive (sda) bit by bit. Here I am assuming dd and netcat (nc) are available either through floppy (/mnt/floppy/nc or through /mnt/sources/mystuff/nc). In case of floppy you need to mount floppy first using command:
<Seekker> mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
<Seekker> then on the 'master' machine
<Seekker> master% dd if=/dev/sda | nc 192.168.0.254 9000
<cpradio> that is what I did
<Seekker> hrm
<Seekker>
<cpradio> damn
<cpradio> the -p caused the problem
<Seekker> oopsie
<cpradio> I removed that from the master and it works
<Seekker> cool
<cpradio> I did this two days ago with nc, then I guess I got that stupid -p stuck in my head, oh well.
<Seekker> lol, stuff like that happens
<cpradio> yeah, i swear, in programming or command line working, a second pair of eyes is a life saver
<Seekker> oh yeah
<Seekker> particularly the older one gets
* cpradio is offended, I know I am aging, but man I am only 24! :-P
<Seekker> lol, well then depends upon how fast one's eyes 'deteriorate'
* Seekker wishes she had her eyesight of when she was 24
* cpradio thinks... okay that makes sense... wait deteriorating parts is a sign of old age, damnit he snuck it by me again!
<Seekker> lol,
<Seekker> well
<Seekker> by that definition I was an old woman by the time I was in the 8th grade .... I couldn't see the big "E" on any eye chart back then
<cpradio> I couldn't see it at 4th grade
<Seekker> ouch
<cpradio> contacts are a life saver
* Seekker can't wear contacts
<cpradio> :(
<Seekker> have to wear the coke bottles
<Seekker> yeah
<cpradio> wow, coke bottles are bad
<Seekker> well, I'm a wee bit more than 2X your age ... the coke bottles are getting thicker each year
<cpradio> I am loving that nc pipe command with dd. It is the best backup tool I have ever used. It is fairly fast too, can do around 40 gigs in 50 minutes
<Seekker> yeah, I just read that ...
<Seekker> I'm bookmarking it for future reference
<Seekker> along with the other HOWTOs and tuts I come across
<cpradio> ah. My eye sight isn't horrid, but I can't go around without contacts or I will run into a wall
<Seekker> yikes
<cpradio> Yeah, I read it two days ago and couldn't figure out why the command stopped working. That stupid -p should only be used on the *slave machine*.
<cpradio> my wife only needs glasses for reading
<Seekker> sokay ... you'll never make *that* mistake again ;)
<Seekker> she's lucky
<cpradio> lol, don't bet it on. This is the guy who has destroyed months of work at 1 AM 4 times because he ran rm -Rf on the wrong directory
<Seekker> ack!
<cpradio> since the second time, I have a cronjob setup to make backups and move them to offsite locations
<Seekker> rule #1 ... never run rm -Rf when sleep deprived
<Seekker> or at least if you do ... do it in interactive mode
<cpradio> no kidding. funny thing, the first time it actually saved me, as I discovered a better way to write that project.
<cpradio> I wasn't that lucky the second time
<Seekker> awww
<Brady_M> I want one! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9FgLr9oTk
<cpradio> i want native flash for AMD64
* Brady_M doh!
<PWill> Brady_M: here, have $2,000. That should get you halfway there.
<PWill> cpradio: Here, have... no wait. Adobe has terrible developers. Nevermind.
<Brady_M> PFft I know
<cpradio> lol
<PWill> cpradio: plus they don't even have shockwave for linux, 32 or 64
<cpradio> i dont miss that so much, as flash keeps gaining ground and getting more advanced, games are becoming more popular on it, as its easier to write for
<Brady_M> cpradio: it's around the bend. like REAL soon. heard about the DOT and FAA are switching?
<cpradio> yeah, I heard about that. I totally support it
<cpradio> and I think its great people are publicizing it. However, I also think it might be a strategy to get M$ to cooperate with them for lesser license prices
<Brady_M> more local governments use it, the more demands on the business side for compatibility
<Brady_M> The weight of the linux sumo has come! :)
<PWill> heh
<PWill> the US DOT is thinking about Linux
<PWill> in which case
<PWill> people would have to start developing for it
<Brady_M> HP's seeing the buzz on Dell's side and mentioned they have already laptops and desktops linux certified and are already looking on pushing them out
<Brady_M> They only make them right now for bulk corperate accounts
<cpradio> okay, you gnome users, my wife wanted evolution so she is running gnome, where can I get a wireless manager, as the CD did not detect her builtin wireless right out of the box
<jgedeon> What kind of card or chip is it?
<jgedeon> is it the broadcom chip?
<cpradio> to tell you the truth I don't know
<cpradio> looks like LinkSys [AirConn] INPROCOMM IPN 2220
<PWill> LOL broadcom is terrible
<PWill> cpradio: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
<PWill> and then press alt+f2 to run "nm-applet"
<cpradio> what is the terminal command to enter in alt + F2 in gnome?
<cpradio> in kde, its konsole...
<xaphan> gnome-terminal
<cpradio> okay, what am I supposed to do with the nm-applet? All it lists is Wired
<xaphan> type eth1 in the text box
<cpradio> lol, what text box?
<xaphan> lol
<cpradio> eth1 in the connection properties stated no such device
<xaphan> hmm
<xaphan> i use gtkwifi
<Vorian> oh! which wifi card?
<cpradio> looks like LinkSys [AirConn] INPROCOMM IPN 2220
<rhys> anyone here have issues with having to connect 3+ times to an unsecured network with network manager?
<xaphan> no :(
<rhys> wonder if it has to do with the broadcom driver...
<xaphan> grr broadcom
<xaphan> my most hated adversary... directly behind ati
<rhys> it works fine..
<rhys> .....
<rhys> it works just fine. with normal terminal tools
<rhys> something nm is doing is the problem
<xaphan> nm never worked for me that well....
<rhys> :-< i cant have it all can i. why doesnt gentoo make a binary distro damnit.
<xaphan> gtkwifi++;
<Brady_M> rhys: The drivers acting up adain. I thought you work things out today?
<Vorian> !ohmy | rhys
<ubot3> rhys: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
<rhys> ....
* Brady_M Shouts happy Birthday - how was the cake?
<rhys> it was fine. the problem isnt with the drivers. the problem is with a GUI happy lowbrow userbase. gui's are nice untill they break
<xaphan> have you tried gtkwifi?
<rhys> xaphan: whats it a frontend for?
<xaphan> thought it was iwconfig
<xaphan> but the internets is telling me otherrwise
<Brady_M> rhys: your dream machiene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YfgmusXRJw
<xaphan> ok.. conflicting reports
<xaphan> GTKWifi is a frontend to iwconfig and some of the other Linux Wireless Tools. It does the same job, but through a GUI rather than CLI.
<Brady_M> rhys: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3448226638968914883&q=commodore+64
<cpradio> well, I gave up on the inboard wifi for my wife's laptop. choose to insert my netgear card and that worked perfectly.
<xaphan> kk
<xaphan> read through the code
<rhys> Brady. im on dialup.
<xaphan> gtkwifi is a frontend for iwconfig
<rhys> seriously.
<Brady_M> rhys: I will show ya and let you hit me tomorrow :)
<rhys> i will throw something at you brady. but this is "family oriented".
<Brady_M> :)
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<cpradio> is there a way to turn off tapping on the touch pad counting as a mouse click?
<Brady_M> cpradio: yea. lemme look her
<Brady_M> cpradio: Well this is what you would have to do. YUou don't have Beryl running on that laptop do you?
<cpradio> nope.
<cpradio> running edgy
<Vorian> cpradio, alps touchpad?
<Brady_M> cpradio: you done terminal before/
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<Brady_M> I know using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg when it prompts if you want a 3 button mouse. Tell it no
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<cpradio> yes, I am fairly capable with terminal
<cpradio> alright, i'll try that
<Brady_M> k, I'm going to bed. I got an UBUNTU BOX to BUild for someone! BWHHAAW!
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