<netzmeister> plz wrote me the answer to matthias.gutmann@gutmann-messtechnik.com
<netzmeister> thx..
<netzmeister> n8
<yann2> ping jalrnc , mitsuhiko , smurf , netzmeister
<smurf> yann2: ?
<yann2> yeah
<yann2> on the dev serv
<yann2> what do you think about vservs? is this do-able?
<yann2> is it worth the pain?
<smurf> if we don't have vservers on our production machines, I don't see the point of having them on the dev server
<yann2> would allow people to restart apache, add vhosts themselves, such things
<yann2> i'm not sure it's worth vservers though
<yann2> I think me may be a little more cool on the dev serv, and give a lot more rights to locos
<smurf> Can we even get multiple IP addresses for the machine?
<yann2> write access in /etc/apache/sites-*, right to execute apache...
<netzmeister> yann2: pong
<yann2> no we can't, but zed say it's possible without
<yann2> i personnaly think vservs would be a waste of resources :)
<netzmeister> but how can we realize a sufficant access for the loco teams?
<yann2> sufficant?
<smurf> sufficient ;-)
<yann2> netzmeister > what do you need?
<netzmeister> ups
<netzmeister> smurf: sry, yes i mean sufficient :-/
<yann2> (btw, just as info, i'm moving in the uk in one month, i may be offline for a while)
<yann2> s/in/to
<smurf> yeah, sure, you can run a squid or apache as a reverse proxy, but that's even more load on the system. My take is, if somebody wants to experiment and check how much resources a vserver actually needs, fine
<smurf> but I'm not doing it ;-)
<yann2> smurf > but what do you think of the idea of vservers?
<yann2> do you think we really need some?
<yann2> netzmeister > why would you need a vserv?
<netzmeister> yann2: I don't need it. I would like access to restart the Apache
<yann2> but that's the only think you'd need?
<yann2> smurf > would you be able to move ajok to dapper?
<smurf> yann2: if nobody needs it any more, sure
<netzmeister> yann2: Is it possible to install SVN on ajok?
<smurf> netzmeister: sure
<smurf> yann2: di you have the access data for the hosting setup at hand? I have no idea where I saved that and I might need it :-/
<yann2> yeah
<yann2> oh btw
<netzmeister> smurf: nice. this may help during the time of development
<yann2> I need just to do a backup before :)
<smurf> netzmeister: NP
<yann2> when would you be able to do that smurf , today?
<smurf> yann2: yes
<yann2> ok
<yann2> i just need to backup a database
<yann2> give me 15 minutes
<netzmeister> one question: is blackbird (mitsuhiko) atm a member of the serverteam?
<yann2> smurf_mp3
<yann2> what's is that on ajok? ^^
<netzmeister> ;-)
<yann2> smurf there are backups of your own server
<smurf> yann2: all mysql databases have been copied to eshu
<yann2> netz_bookmarks
<smurf> yann2: yes I know, I was going to clean these up
<yann2> ok so all database have been copied to eshu?
<smurf> yes
<yann2> great
<netzmeister> yann2: go go go :-D
<yann2> yeah, i just need to make suivi.ubuntu-fr.org point to eshu
<yann2> btw smurf , the doc for nsset may be expanded ^^
<netzmeister> smurf: which subdomain is planned for the dev-server?
<yann2> root@eshu:/var/www/suivi.ubuntu-fr.org# nsset -K ubuntu-fr.org. -k ... -u suivi.ubuntu-fr.org
<yann2> 88.191.46.53
<yann2> Net::DNS::typesbyname() argument (88.191.46.53) is not TYPE### at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/DNS.pm line 168, <STDIN> line 1.
<yann2> aahh
<yann2> forgot the A =)
<yann2> good
<yann2> should be fine
<yann2> move on :)
<yann2> let's check there is nothing left on ajok
<yann2> oh
<yann2> NS2 will be down?
<yann2> is that a problem?
<yann2> btw wait, if the database have been copied, then...
<yann2> 2 secs
<yann2> ok smurf , you may begin
<yann2> just care about that dns thing
<yann2> smurf > just tell me what you need :)
<_Lux> hi
<yann2> hi lux :)
<_Lux> hi yann2
<yann2> lux, smurf will do the dapper install on ajok today
<yann2> we won't install vservers
<_Lux> yann2: that is good
<_Lux> both messages
<yann2> :)
<yann2> _lux > and, yeah, i'll be moving to the uk in one month :)
<_Lux> sometimes I am interested in what you are doing ...
<_Lux> so now, what do you do to earn your living?
<yann2> i'm student
<yann2> but -> http://www.ubuntu.com/employment#head-6ba1371596048a2ab65ba63261cb6b0df5864f7e
<_Lux> Ah, congratulations!
<_Lux> What do you study?
<yann2> computer science
<yann2> at a french/german institute :)
<_Lux> Ok.
<smurf> yann2: hosting access to ajok: ?
<smurf> (dapper is installed, ready to reboot...)
<netzmeister> smurf: nice
<yann2> hosting access?
<yann2> hosting access?
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<smurf> yann2: I might need to emergency-boot ajok -- the new kernel might not boot ...
<smurf> so I need the access data for the hosting login there
<yann2> everything's on the wiki
<yann2> ah
<yann2> except the password right? :)
<smurf> probably ;-)
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<netzmeister> yann2: ping
<yann2> ?
<netzmeister> yann2: are you there?
<yann2> a litle bit
<yann2> shoot, i'll read
<netzmeister> can the loco account create cron jobs on asa?
<yann2> open a trac ticket :)
<netzmeister> yes?
<yann2> maybe no :)
<netzmeister> ? :-/
<netzmeister> ah yes we can..
<netzmeister> thx..
<netzmeister> crontab -e ;-)
<yann2> yeah but not as root :)
<netzmeister> no as ubuntu_de
<netzmeister> thats enough, because i need only write permission in the /srv/www/de/forum Dir.

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