| <Tatey> here's trouble | |
| <siccness> hey champ | |
| <siccness> how are ya | |
| <Tatey> good mate | |
| <Tatey> how are you? | |
| <siccness> not bad :) | |
| <Tatey> using Vista still? P | |
| <Tatey> *:P | |
| <siccness> barely | |
| <siccness> It seems to crash | |
| <Tatey> oh, I'm sure it'll take two service packs to get it how it was originally intended | |
| <thoreauputic> aaaaaargh ! someone used the "V" word! | |
| * thoreauputic puts his fingers in his ears | |
| <Tatey> thoreauputic: not as bad as using the V word | |
| <thoreauputic> Tatey: the quotes mitigate the evil ? | |
| <Tatey> no, they're like shields | |
| <thoreauputic> ah, I see | |
| <Tatey> they stop the evil from leaving that designated quoatation area | |
| <thoreauputic> learn something every day ') | |
| <thoreauputic> does this mean I can scrap iptables and just put a list of ports with quotes around them? | |
| <Tatey> LOL | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <Tatey> You could try, but I think you might get a syntax error :P | |
| <cafuego_> thoreauputic: echo "(V)" > /proc/sys/net/firewall | |
| <thoreauputic> cafuego: ah, that was the command i was looking for! | |
| <cafuego_> and make sure esp.ko is loaded, so it knows what to block and what not to block | |
| <thoreauputic> :P | |
| <Tatey> thoreauputic: I have a better solution mate, just quote the the internet. "Internet" now you're perfectly safe | |
| <thoreauputic> Tatey: but...but... all the Tubes are blocked now and my Intarweb is br0ken! | |
| * cafuego_ drums his fingers on teh desk | |
| * thoreauputic makes a locked concrete case for his computer | |
| <cafuego_> ouch! cpu eat-o-rama! | |
| * thoreauputic spends a fortune on fans to penetrate the concrete box | |
| <cafuego_> orica do nice matched sets | |
| <thoreauputic> ah, water cooled concrete box - that is the answer! | |
| * thoreauputic get s a bucket | |
| <cafuego_> ooh that's right, iw as going to check if i need a new set of types | |
| <cafuego_> tyres | |
| <thoreauputic> cafuego: I always wanted a new set of types ... | |
| *** cps is now known as cps|out | |
| <MistaED> bugger, all the feisty features i've been looking forward to are all getting deferred | |
| <MistaED> now it's the replacement-initscripts | |
| <nrdb> Hi, I copied my 6.06 installation and then upgraded it to 6.10 and the 6.10 installation won't work my monitor, :( the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is the same as on my 6.06 installation, but the monitor say 'out of sync', I am using the 'mga' video driver. (the 6.10 desktop cd does the same thing) can anyone sugest a fix ? | |
| <Tatey> hi nrdb | |
| <nrdb> Tatey: hi | |
| <Tatey> do you know the vertical and horizontal refresh rates for your display? | |
| <Tatey> there are substantial changs between 6.06 and 6.10 in relation to Xorg | |
| <nrdb> Tatey: no is there some way of finding out what it is currently using ? | |
| <Tatey> nrdb: well, if you had your display manual handy, or google | |
| <Phlosten> howdy all | |
| <Tatey> if you would like to tell me your display model, I'll look it up for you | |
| <Tatey> hi Phlosten | |
| <Tatey> nrdb: it should work, I'm not sure why | |
| <Tatey> also, you could try switching to the generic vesa driver too | |
| <nrdb> Phlosten: hi | |
| <nrdb> Tatey: Would I change the driver from "mga" to "vesa" ? | |
| <Tatey> nrdb: it's a generic driver, just test it out | |
| <nrdb> Tatey: I am not sure how, do just edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and change the "Driver "mga"" to "Drive "vesa"" ? | |
| <Tatey> yes :) | |
| <Tatey> BTW, you still haven't told me what display you're using | |
| <nrdb> Tatey: its a Medion 19 inch, the xorg.conf file says "MD1998LM" | |
| <Tatey> okay, under Section "Monitor" | |
| <Tatey> try putting this | |
| <Tatey> HorizSync 30-100 | |
| <Tatey> VertRefresh 50-100 | |
| <nrdb> Tatey: thanks have to reset to test it, back in a bit. | |
| <nrdb> Tatey: changing the monitor settings didn't help, setting the driver to "VESA" allowed the GUI to come up (800x600), the monitor says HF:23.55 VF:21.91 | |
| <Tatey> okay, now that you've got a GUI | |
| <Tatey> you can search the web for specification on your monitor | |
| <Tatey> I may have got the wrong model | |
| <Tatey> you need to find the accurate horiz and vert refresh sync settings for your display | |
| <Tatey> I'm sure the ones I gave you were correct, but maybe not | |
| <Tatey> I would search for you, but I'm a little pre-occupied with work ATM | |
| <nrdb> Tatey: ok | |
| <siccness> throw a modeline in | |
| <siccness> see if that does something | |
| <nrdb> siccness: any ideas on what to put in the modeline ? | |
| <siccness> You can generate modelines, sorry. | |
| <siccness> I can never remember the command, so hold up. | |
| <siccness> gtf is the command | |
| <kgoetz> looks like a swear word | |
| <siccness> so say you wanted 1280 x 1024 at 75Hz, you'd do: gtf 1280 1024 75 | |
| <siccness> Make sure your monitor can handle whatever you input though | |
| *** cafuego__ is now known as cafuego_ | |
| <Tatey> big sicc | |
| <siccness> tataz | |
| <Tatey> got solaris yet? | |
| <siccness> nah, they're useless. | |
| <Tatey> bloody Sun | |
| <Tatey> I am going to make Moonaris in protest, a fork of OpenSolaris :P | |
| <Tatey> (Though the current licencing prevents that) | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Tatey> MooniesOS | |
| <Tatey> MoonieOS, Linux for bums | |
| <Tatey> what are you up to big sicc? | |
| <siccness> Playing "InkBall" | |
| <siccness> but im getting very annoyed with it | |
| <Tatey> I am playing the internet | |
| <Tatey> I'm about to win, I think | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Tatey> nah, really | |
| <Tatey> I'm playing the "make content for my site" game | |
| <nrdb> siccness: my xorg.conf is @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9362/ I did as you sugested, but the monitor said out of sync HF:23.55 VF:21.99, did I put the modeline in wrong ? any ideas ? | |
| <siccness> Looks right to me :| | |
| <nrdb> how come the monitor is say vastly different scan rates than the modeline supposidly forces ? | |
| <nrdb> is there a command line irc client ? | |
| <Tatey> nrdb: sure is | |
| <siccness> irssi | |
| <Tatey> Irssi | |
| <Tatey> it's what siccness and I use | |
| <Tatey> I know a few others here use it | |
| <siccness> it's what real people use | |
| <Tatey> yea | |
| <Tatey> well | |
| <Tatey> not really | |
| <Tatey> real people also use Arch | |
| <Tatey> :P | |
| <Tatey> OH SNAP | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <kingkarlos> BitchX! | |
| <siccness> no | |
| <Tatey> Irssi :) | |
| <kingkarlos> hehe | |
| <nrdb_> hi | |
| <nrdb_> ok now any further ideas on what to do with this damn 6.10 xorg config. | |
| <siccness> I'm out of ideas, sorry. :| | |
| * nrdb_ curses | |
| <siccness> it | |
| <siccness> *it's not over yet, im always out of ideas | |
| <nrdb_> siccness: untill the next one comes :) ha ha | |
| <siccness> heh, that rarely happens :) | |
| <nrdb_> could it not be useing the modeline when trying to start. | |
| * siccness shrugs :\ | |
| <nrdb_> well startx has the same problem. :( | |
| <Tatey> you could try generating a new xorg conf file | |
| <nrdb_> Tatey: I did a "dpkg-reconfigure gdm" a while back | |
| <Tatey> I just recalled, there have bene problems with the upgrade of 6.06 and 6.10 because of modular Xorg | |
| <Tatey> make sure this driver is installed with your video ard | |
| <Tatey> xserver-xorg-video-mga - X.Org X server -- MGA display driver | |
| <Tatey> try installing that, if it isn't already | |
| <siccness> in 11hrs i will no longer be a 'teenager' | |
| <Tatey> then you could perform a Xorg -reconfigure | |
| <Tatey> wiat, it's Xorg -configure | |
| <nrdb_> Tatey: the mga driver is installed. | |
| <Tatey> anyone access http://bottlebrush.net.au ? | |
| <Tatey> nrdb_: I'm not really sure then | |
| <siccness> doesn't work, Tatey | |
| <Tatey> okay | |
| <nrdb_> well looks like I can't use 6.10 then :( | |
| <Tatey> nrdb_: I'd say it's related to the upgrade | |
| <nrdb_> nrdb_: I can't even try a fresh install as the LiveCD doesn't work ether :( | |
| <Tatey> rather than 6.10 | |
| <Tatey> nrdb_: use the OEM live CD | |
| <Tatey> errr | |
| <Tatey> use the OEM install | |
| <Tatey> or perhaps, check out Fiesty | |
| <Tatey> if you were more brave, I'd recommend another distribution called Arch :) | |
| <nrdb_> Tatey: maybe I will, what do you mean by 'OEM install' ? | |
| <Tatey> the alternate install cd | |
| <nrdb_> Tatey: oh! maybe I will. have to down load it first. | |
| <nrdb_> Tatey: back 6.06 for now. thanks for trying to help. | |
| <Phlosten> dum dee dum | |
| * purserj sighs | |
| <cafuego_> awww | |
| <Phlosten> sighing? again? | |
| <Phlosten> ehehe, excellent http://blogs.sun.com/marigan/entry/how_the_vi_editor_would | |
| <cafuego_> Haha, as if it would be that responsive... | |
| <Phlosten> yay, another microsoft image format... | |
| *** cps|out is now known as cps | |
| <quail> damn i need one of theses >>> http://deadspin.com/sports/clips/soon-americans-will-lack-the-need-to-move-240329.php | |
| <Phlosten> hmm, is that flash? | |
| <Phlosten> epiphany says i need a plugin but wont tell me which one :) | |
| <Phlosten> bbs | |
| <quail> yeah it flash | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: damn i need one of theses >>> http://deadspin.com/sports/clips/soon-americans-will-lack-the-need-to-move-240329.php | |
| <siccness> merlin-linux: that rocks | |
| <siccness> Except we'll have to make it better | |
| <siccness> 10 beers is pansy american stuff | |
| <Phlosten> lol | |
| <Phlosten> 10 american beers is like about 2 aussie beers isnt it? | |
| <siccness> yeah | |
| <merlin-linux> hehe | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: yeah i think we can make it better and use OSS too | |
| <siccness> Let's be honest though, we've already made it better. | |
| <siccness> It's called an esky with ice | |
| <Phlosten> its a seat, its a beverage chiller, its ace! | |
| <Phlosten> quail, can you paste that beer thingie link again? | |
| <merlin-linux> http://deadspin.com/sports/clips/soon-americans-will-lack-the-need-to-move-240329.php | |
| <merlin-linux> bbl i doing an online linux 201 coarse | |
| <merlin-linux> with HP | |
| <Phlosten> woot | |
| <lisapc> hi | |
| <lisapc> anyone home? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm home. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> pull up an imac | |
| <lisapc> how come downloading torrents using optusnet is at dial up speed? | |
| <lisapc> anyone know? | |
| <lisapc> Kamping_Kaiser any ideas> | |
| <lisapc> ? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> no, i dont torrent | |
| <lisapc> rofl | |
| <lisapc> not even the linux? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> no. | |
| * lisapc rofl at Kamping_Kaiser | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser is happy in 1991, thanks all the same :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> interesting page http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/cadgis/products/agp_pci_pcie.php | |
| <lisapc> Kamping_Kaiser no adverstising your business pls | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ... | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser slaps lisapc | |
| <lisapc> hmm | |
| <lisapc> u like slapping girls? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hi lucychili | |
| <Schalken> good evening | |
| <lucychili> greets | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lisapc, like? no. just as i dont like telling people 'no i wont install $random_software on the server', i still refuse | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Schalken | |
| <purserj> Kamping_Kaiser: you don't like saying that? I take a perverse joy | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> purserj, hehe. | |
| * lucychili risks being larted by saying that if you bofh you generate users, if they feel they are participating they are more likely to try to be more responsible and this was the no capes thingo re vol sysadmin angle | |
| <purserj> lucychili: its a great thing if it happens | |
| * lucychili scarpers | |
| <lucychili> yup | |
| <lucychili> but it is a bit ying yang | |
| <purserj> The problem is that 99% of "users" really don't care for anything beyond their own percieved needs | |
| <lucychili> yup | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser wonders at the 'xp is easier then ubuntu' routine he faces in hut network at times. | |
| <lucychili> for vol sysadmin work with linux to be sustainable we used a model of i can we can they can, can we | |
| <lisapc> how come downloading torrents using optusnet is at dial up speed? ANYone know why? | |
| <lucychili> so that the org could share responsibility for the network | |
| <purserj> lisapc: they're probably shaping torrents | |
| <lucychili> so the vol was not the only person being faced with the problems | |
| <purserj> lucychili: vol sysadmining is particularly fraught with problems | |
| <lucychili> yep | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> your telling me :| | |
| <purserj> generally people expect professional level sysadminning | |
| <lisapc> purserj yeah maybe | |
| <lucychili> structuring expectations that the vol is finite and that this means the users need to understand that they are participants was part of the spiel to try and shift things | |
| <AlexC> Gaaaaarrrrr | |
| <lucychili> mixed results but some of the users are doing admin tasks | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> anyway, i'll leave you two to it - i'm here for light entertainment, not this :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *away* | |
| <lucychili> yup fair enough | |
| * lucychili shuts up | |
| <lucychili> =) | |
| <lisapc> anyone here using adsl2+ optus? | |
| * purserj can't wait until the kids go to sleep | |
| <purserj> lisapc: nope, I'm using the increasingly unreliable exetel | |
| <purserj> brb going to feed smallest and put her to bed | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lisapc, stop nagging, asking every 5 minutes doesnt make more people know about it | |
| * AlexC slaps lisapc for being impatient | |
| * lucychili slaps me for being ranty | |
| <lisapc> Kamping_Kaiser stop crying like a woman | |
| <AlexC> Lol | |
| <lisapc> Kamping_Kaiser be a man for once in your life instead of like a little girl :P | |
| <lisapc> u act like a little girl :P | |
| * AlexC gives chocolate to lisapc | |
| <lisapc> AlexC cheers :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lisapc, stop trolling/shit stirring, or be removed | |
| <AlexC> it is kinda annoying, lisapc | |
| <lisapc> lol | |
| <lisapc> you judgemental men :) | |
| <lisapc> ok | |
| <lisapc> ill zip it :) | |
| <AlexC> how do you know i am male? | |
| <lisapc> true | |
| <lisapc> could be Alexendria :) | |
| * lisapc gives AlexC a hug | |
| <AlexC> lol | |
| <AlexC> your name doesn't give anything away | |
| <lisapc> :)\) | |
| * lisapc is a secrative girl | |
| <lisapc> brb | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> when is lisa a blokes name? :| | |
| <AlexC> i looked at the whole nickname | |
| <AlexC> not the lisa bit | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> look at the /whois too | |
| <AlexC> too much trouble | |
| <lisapc> AlexC what about it? | |
| <lisapc> pc = personal computer | |
| <AlexC> the whole typing /whois and changing tabs and all | |
| <AlexC> i know | |
| <merlin-linux> w00t i just finished a HP linux 201 6 week coarse in bit over an hour | |
| * AlexC backs away | |
| <merlin-linux> now to print my certificate of completion | |
| <AlexC> lol | |
| <cps> sounds like a comprehensive course | |
| <Phlosten> merlin-linux, how much did that cost you? | |
| <Schalken> anyone know a good cvs program for ubuntu? | |
| <merlin-linux> Phlosten: it is free | |
| <merlin-linux> Phlosten: here is the url http://hplearningcenter.com | |
| <AlexC> merlin-linux: where do you start it? | |
| <merlin-linux> i missed the linux 101 coarse so i started at 201 | |
| * Fujitsu does it in 5 minutes. | |
| <merlin-linux> the quiz for linux 201 is easy | |
| <AlexC> lol | |
| <AlexC> sorry | |
| <Phlosten> bbs | |
| <Phlosten> bing! | |
| <merlin-linux> huh? | |
| <siccness> $38 slab of bourbon :D | |
| <Phlosten> lol, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kId5tG1rmYQ | |
| <elkbuntu> why does friday night tv have to suck so bad? | |
| <Fujitsu> elkbuntu: I presume that it and the LP people teamed up to ensure that I had nothing to do tonight. | |
| <elkbuntu> Fujitsu, hehe | |
| <TheMuso> Fujitsu: Feels that way. | |
| <TheMuso> If I wasn't testing the drupal 5 package, I really wouldn't have much to do. :) | |
| <Fujitsu> (not that I ever watch TV anyway, but...) | |
| * Fujitsu had planned to spend all of this evening squishing universe bugs... But I doubt much of that is going to happen, with 3.5 hours LP downtime at least. | |
| <TheMuso> And who knows how much longer it will be down, when it does go down. | |
| <Fujitsu> I bet they'll have to take it down for 4 or 5 hours now for some more DB maintenance to stop the OOPSes. | |
| <TheMuso> Is it db problems as such | |
| <Fujitsu> Well, they just upgraded PostgreSQL, so I presume so. | |
| <Fujitsu> I wonder what compelling new features they needed. | |
| <TheMuso> Right. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm... a xeon with onboard scsi controller, and i put in a 20gig ide hdd :| *feels really bad* | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mruiz | |
| <mruiz> hi Kamping_Kaiser , how are you? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> mruiz, not bad, i'm ignoring my todo lists :) | |
| <mruiz> me too :) | |
| <siccness> :D | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> sweet :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hey siccness | |
| <siccness> Hey champ, what's up mate? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, realising that gedit *wont* allow <esc><o> as a legit way of starting a new line | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <siccness> vim > * | |
| <siccness> you know the deal. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, i agree | |
| <siccness> <--my bday in 2hrs man | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> whoa, you kidding? | |
| <siccness> Nope | |
| <siccness> I'll be 20, no longer a teenager. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. you'll have to start being responsible... | |
| <siccness> Pfft. | |
| <siccness> That's 40 onwards. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. good reply | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *grin* | |
| <siccness> heheh | |
| * Fujitsu just heard a Vista-ised version of the Mac-vs.-PC ad. | |
| <siccness> DreamScene baby! yeah!! whoo! | |
| <siccness> Ron Evans died :| | |
| <TheMuso> And they are whom? | |
| <siccness> Played for Essendon back in the 50s, gave Kevin Sheedy a job after being elected as president of Essendon | |
| <siccness> Was on the AFL board of whackoes | |
| <deltad> <<<Davo_Dinkum testing some PCs | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <deltad> Can you install apps while livebooting? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> if you have the ram | |
| <deltad> 256 enough for vlc? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> dunno. | |
| <deltad> ill give it a whirl | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> gl | |
| <deltad> Why isn't VLC in the gNewSense repos?! | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> it is | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> (in there) | |
| <deltad> Uder whaT? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> 19 | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> exec -o apt-cache search vlc |wc -l | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> tried vlc? | |
| <deltad> yeah I've used VLC before | |
| <deltad> i did apt-cache search vlc, but it was a no show | |
| <deltad> *i didnt forget sudo, don worry | |
| <siccness> Oh nOEZ! | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> you dont need sudo to apt-cache | |
| <deltad> This exec -o apt-cache search vlc |wc -l thing didn't work | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> tried without the exec -o? | |
| <deltad> yeah, the only resualt is "0" | |
| <deltad> resault | |
| <deltad> result | |
| <deltad> bad typing position here | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> whats in your sources.list then? | |
| <Hit3k> happy friday night everyone | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Hit3k | |
| <deltad> Kamping_Kaiser: Where is that located again? | |
| <Hit3k> hows it going Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> deltad, /etc/apt/ | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Hit3k, busy, yourself? | |
| <Hit3k> Kamping_Kaiser, trying to figure this OpenGL stuff out | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hah! | |
| <deltad> Kamping_Kaiser: | |
| <deltad> deb http://archive.gnewsense.org/gnewsense/ deltad main universe | |
| <deltad> deb-src http://archive.gnewsense.org/gnewsense/ deltad main universe | |
| <deltad> deb http://security.gnewsense.org/gnewsense/ deltad-security main universe | |
| <deltad> deb-src http://security.gnewsense.org/gnewsense/ deltad security main universe | |
| <deltad> Kamping_Kaiser: YOu there? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> deltad, yes, but i'm daring to spend time on work as well as you | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> deltad, then a `sudo apt-get update` should fix you | |
| <deltad> Kamping_Kaiser: Cheers | |
| <Hit3k> gnewsense eh... | |
| <Hit3k> http://blogs.sun.com/marigan/entry/how_the_vi_editor_would | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Hit3k, pretty funny eh | |
| <Hit3k> yeah | |
| <Hit3k> made me lol | |
| <Hit3k> its a shame ms killed clippy | |
| <Hit3k> friggin russians are holding out on us!! they have 1 fifth of the worlds non frozen fresh water supply | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. probably the amount of flack they got over it - it was quite upsetting/disturbing for noobs apparently | |
| <Hit3k> oh | |
| <Hit3k> I had fun customising it.. my favourite was the einstein one | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> heh | |
| <siccness> Clippy was a piece of shit. | |
| <Hit3k> hah | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> sad really: i can download packages faster at lyns place (1024kb/s) then i can over my usb cable (usb1, 960kb/s) | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> usb1 is old school man | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> no kidding | |
| <Hit3k> god.. theres this little lightbulb thing in OpenOffice.Org that gives me the creeps | |
| <siccness> i think usb1 died 10 years ago next to pci :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl Hit3k | |
| <Hit3k> siccness, if you go to the computer graveyard you see "In Loving Memory of usb1 <whenever> to <whenever>" next to pci's grave | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i turn it off | |
| <siccness> Heh | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, usb only started being produced 10 years ago | |
| <Hit3k> I dont use open office enough to bother with it it just appears at the worst possible times! | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: Yeah I know | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> with pci not long before | |
| <siccness> It was more of a 'smart-ass' comment, if anything. | |
| <siccness> 54mins baby! | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> your clocks wrong | |
| <siccness> 53mins baby! | |
| <Hit3k> "In unloving memory of Windows ME 2000 - 2000" | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Fri Mar 9 22:38:12 CST 2007 | |
| <siccness> It didn't even last that long | |
| <Hit3k> Fri Mar 9 23:08:02 EST 2007 | |
| <siccness> Windows ME, September 14th 2000 - September 14th 2000 | |
| <siccness> I was surprised to find out Microsoft discontinued FrontPage | |
| <siccness> I thought that was one of their better software packages in the suite. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> you frigging twit | |
| * Hit3k gives siccness the "If i had ops i'd kick you" look | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> killing frontpage is the only good thing MS did this year | |
| <Hit3k> ever | |
| <siccness> I disagree. FrontPage was easy for people to use | |
| <siccness> I haven't tried their successor yet though | |
| <Hit3k> mind you.. my school will STILL be using it in 3 years | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, so is a hammer, but its not the correct tool to write software | |
| <Hit3k> whats the successor? | |
| <Hit3k> "nightmareweaver" | |
| <siccness> Microsoft ExpressionWeb | |
| <siccness> *Expression Web | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser didnt know there was a substitute | |
| <siccness> and Microsoft SharePoint Designer | |
| <Hit3k> hmm | |
| <Hit3k> nightmareweaver sounds better | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i'v heard of sharepoint, still dont know what it does | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: Shit all | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, any mroe detail? :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> does it need exchange? does it cost? | |
| <siccness> Basically allows people in an office to share data via web | |
| <siccness> Doesn't need Exchange to my knowledge | |
| <Hit3k> so what.. | |
| <Hit3k> its like an intranet.. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> web=internet or intranet? | |
| <siccness> intranet | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm | |
| <Hit3k> what is WRONG with microsoft... | |
| <siccness> i haven't played with it personally, but went to a meeting with someone using it | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> its been recommended to someoen i know, i'm wondering whether to recomend against it or just ignore they asked my opinion (i can really recomend the do use it) | |
| <siccness> people seem to like it | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm | |
| <siccness> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_SharePoint_Server | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser hopes theres a useful link on the page (ie one to MS) | |
| <siccness> under external links | |
| <siccness> I'm going to try Microsoft Commerce Server 2007 soon, see if that's any good | |
| <siccness> You'd hope so with the excessively high price tag on her | |
| <TheMuso> siccness: You could say the same about Windows in general. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> looks like sharepoint costs, whatever way you get it | |
| <siccness> There's a big difference between $20,000 and $600 | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, dont make me fall off my chair laughing :) | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: I kid you not. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> cost!=quality, brand it however you like | |
| <siccness> True. | |
| <siccness> But for $20,000 for a piece of software, you'd want quality. | |
| <TheMuso> For $600 you'd want quality as well. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> want whatver you like, your buying support | |
| <TheMuso> IMO | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> not quality | |
| <siccness> Support is more. | |
| <siccness> $20k gets you the software and licenses | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> then you need a new manager | |
| <siccness> Heh | |
| <siccness> TheMuso: That's a fair point. | |
| <Hit3k> <siccness> $20k gets you the software and licenses | |
| <Hit3k> s'not worth it | |
| <siccness> Indeed. | |
| <Hit3k> I could spend the $20k on more important things | |
| <Hit3k> like building a hypercube | |
| <siccness> $20k would just about get you a ducati | |
| <Hit3k> I'd get a ducati.. if my mum wouldnt break my legs... | |
| <siccness> doesnt matter, the fall off a ducati would | |
| <Hit3k> haha | |
| <Hit3k> thats my mums reasoning "if you get a motorbike i'll kill you before you kill yourself" | |
| <siccness> that's the thing, bikes are cool, but it only takes 1 wanker of a driver to kill you | |
| <siccness> cars you have a better chance :| | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> until wanker is in 4wd (which tehy usually are...) | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: most of which never see dirt :P money well spent | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, dont get me started | |
| <Hit3k> siccness, true that | |
| *** cps is now known as cps|Zzz | |
| <Hit3k> I dont see any point in buying a 4wd vehicle when they never go off road | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> cheaper, wank factor, tosser | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> 3 popular reasons ;) | |
| <siccness> add wanker again to that list. | |
| * siccness hopes he didn't offend anyone in here :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, if you did, i just did worse :) | |
| <siccness> hehe ;) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, you better run `ntpdate ntp.adelaide.edu.au` about now | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> 4mins :D | |
| <TheMuso> Night folks | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :D | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> night TheMuso | |
| <siccness> Night champ | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, 3 | |
| <siccness> 3 now | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> almost 2 | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> your 40 seconds slow | |
| <siccness> nah, your 40 secs too fast | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> or not | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser knows how to use ntpdate | |
| <siccness> google seems to disagree :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> really? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> what does google think? | |
| <siccness> google agrees with my time | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser wondesr why google would know about time anyway | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: run >>> ntpclient -c 1 -s -h ntp.my-isp.net | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> what part of google? | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: the part where i type in: melbourne time :) | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser shakes head. how bizare | |
| <merlin-linux> change ntp.isp.net to a time server | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> merlin-linux, ntpclient? | |
| <siccness> 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 !! | |
| <merlin-linux> Kamping_Kaiser: yes | |
| <siccness> <--20! | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> merlin-linux, what package is that in? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, happy bday! | |
| <siccness> Thanks champ :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> join the mature responsible group (read, get smashed0! | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> s/0/) | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: happy b'day | |
| <siccness> half way there, kampaz. | |
| <siccness> merlin-linux: thanks mate | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, rock on | |
| * merlin-linux has a beer for siccness b'day | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <merlin-linux> damn debian does not have ntpclient | |
| <merlin-linux> i use ntpclient on my openwrt install | |
| <merlin-linux> but it is old kernel tho >>> Linux OpenWrt 2.4.30 #1 Sat Feb 3 13:16:08 CET 2007 mips unknown | |
| <Hit3k> hm | |
| <merlin-linux> Hit3k: openwrt is for embedded wifi's | |
| <Hit3k> 2.4.30 isnt that old.. they're only up to 2.4.34.1 | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser tries to remember what kernel sarge shiped with. 2.4.something | |
| * merlin-linux loves openwrt | |
| <Hit3k> i wonder who uses 2.2.x kernels | |
| * merlin-linux is running a micro install of openwrt on his wifi AP | |
| <siccness> 2.4.30 is 3yrs old | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Hit3k, anyone running woody (or equivilant system) or older | |
| <merlin-linux> so i have now web gui and the on port i have open is port 22 | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> or anyone who doesnt want support ;) | |
| <Hit3k> fine, when you compare it to xp its not old | |
| <merlin-linux> M$ sucks | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| * merlin-linux will never go back to it | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> 2.4 is... different. i couldnt get past that :| | |
| <Hit3k> 2.4 is nice | |
| <merlin-linux> damn i only work on one M$ computer and that for my mum | |
| <Hit3k> well.. i dont mind it | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser doesnt like needing to know binary to use the thing | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> s/binary/[octal,hex,whatever not base10 its using for info in /proc] | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. i'v got 6 18 gig scsis. slowly building up my storage pool :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> now i just need to be able to pay to run them... | |
| <Hit3k> haha | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :P | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: to update time try ntpdate | |
| <siccness> L:\Users\siccness>ntpdate | |
| <siccness> 'ntpdate' is not recognized as an internal or external command, | |
| <siccness> operable program or batch file. | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <merlin-linux> ntpdate - The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers | |
| <Hit3k> hrm | |
| <Hit3k> why does microsoft have to use \ instead of / | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Hit3k, retorical question? | |
| <Hit3k> no :( I really want to know | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> becase long long ago, in a land far far away... | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> they decided 'dos can go like \, thats cool yeh?' | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> and then stuck with it | |
| <Hit3k> bastards | |
| <Hit3k> ! | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <siccness> someone needs to make InkBall for Linux | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> what is it? | |
| <Hit3k> InkBall? | |
| <siccness> It's a game, which is basically a board. With holes in it (which have colours). Balls get shot out and you have to use a pen (using it's ink) to direct these balls into their corresponding coloured holes | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> night siccness , henno i | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *sigh | |
| <siccness> night mate | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> night siccness , Hit3k | |
| <Hit3k> night mate | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> catch you later | |
| <Tatey> siccness: what you described sounds like you're trying to install Vista? :P | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <Tatey> :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Man livebooting is slow even on a 1.1ghz celeron | |
| <Tatey> yea | |
| <Tatey> Internet is faster on an Intel Pentium 4 *INSERT JINGLE* | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Pfft as if | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Would it be safe to remove the fan from a hub? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> The fan in the hub's power supply anyway | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It's way too noisy | |
| <Tatey> I'd say probably not | |
| <Tatey> get a new phone, or put oil in the existing fan | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> phone? | |
| <Tatey> fan | |
| <Tatey> sorry | |
| <Tatey> tired :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What's the aspect ratio of 1024 x 600? | |
| <Tatey> 1024 / 600? | |
| <Tatey> 2 | |
| <Tatey> 1.3 is the golden aspect | |
| <Tatey> 3:4 | |
| <lisapc> hi | |
| *** cps|Zzz is now known as cps | |
| <lisapc> hi | |
| <lisapc> hi |