<theidiotthatisme> Howdy

<DM|> Ok, i am trying to copy a file from a CD ( ubuntu CD) to a USB drive and no matter what i do i cannot copy it, even under sudo

<meatballhat> howdy ye all

<jacobmp92> !hi | meatballhat

<ubot3> meatballhat: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-ohio!

<meatballhat> mr. smart pants ;-)

<jacobmp92> hehe

<jacobmp92> my irc ping is getting bad, i just got 39.5 seconds

<jacobmp92> brb

<jacobmp92> there :)

<meatballhat> jacobmp92: you dabble in Python at all?

<jacobmp92> meatballhat: a bit, havent used it in a while

<jacobmp92> but i know it for the most part

<PWill> Vorian: I won't be at the meeting tonight, i'm about to pass out

<PWill> i 'm really sick

<meatballhat> PWill: go to bed!

<PWill> i am

<PWill> night guys, i'll be sure to read the logs tomorrow

<jacobmp92> bleh, being sick sucks

<jacobmp92> hope ya feel better PWill :)

<PWill> yeah, i think it's strep. i can barley swallow

<PWill> thanks

<PWill> night

<theidiotthatisme> Goodnight PWill:Hope you feel better!

<meatballhat> swallowing barley is the worst ...

*** PWill is now known as PWill_sick

<theidiotthatisme> 40 minutes

<theidiotthatisme> :-)

<theidiotthatisme> You there meatballhat?

<theidiotthatisme> Hi Seekker! Vorian! jacobmp92! Brady_M!

<jacobmp92> ahoy theidiotthatisme

<meatballhat> Seekker: you around? :D

<theidiotthatisme> I think she's hiding from us

<theidiotthatisme> Hi cpradio

<cpradio> hi

* theidiotthatisme sings Stacey's Mom

<cpradio> damn, that almost matched what amarok was currently playing at the moment

<cpradio> it just finished

<theidiotthatisme> cpradio: I love the music video, it's funny as hell

<cpradio> yes it is.

<Vorian> hey everyone!

<cpradio> i havent seen it for a while though

<Vorian> check the website

<Vorian> top right column

<cpradio> donation :)

<theidiotthatisme> Hi Vorian

<Vorian> hola theidiotthatisme

<theidiotthatisme> ooo donation button

* Seekker waves

<Vorian> hi Seekker

* meatballhat dumps Gatorade on Vorian

<theidiotthatisme> and there's Seekker :-P

<Seekker> :)

<Vorian> meatballhat, what!

<meatballhat> was I supposed to do that *after* the meeting??

<Vorian> hehe

<Vorian> anyone want to whip up a much cooler donation button?

<Vorian> same size?

* theidiotthatisme doesn't have any art skills

<jacobmp92> hehe, nice paypal defaults :)

<theidiotthatisme> Or programming or marketing for that matter lol

<jacobmp92> Vorian: why not a [slightly] bigger button? the bigger it is the greater chance someone will see/click it

<Vorian> jacobmp92, yep, i agree.

<Vorian> ok so

<Vorian> anyone want to whip up a much cooler bigger donation button?

<meatballhat> <input type="image" src="https://www.paypal.com/en_US/i/btn/x-click-but21.gif" <---- wonder if there's anything *special* about this gif???

<meatballhat> hehe

<jacobmp92> Vorian: i can *attempt*... give me 10 mins or so

<Vorian> what is it meatballhat?

<Seekker> ohhh, another akronite

<Vorian> I can change the image

<meatballhat> I just see that the code snippet pulls everything in real time from paypal

<Vorian> hehe

<meatballhat> tshawn_: you in 'kron??

<tshawn_> hello all

<Vorian> tight 8-)

<tshawn_> yes,

<tshawn_> first time at a meeting

<jacobmp92> bah... personally i hate the paypal API. i had to program an entire site to accept payments automatically and add accounts and such... it sucked

<meatballhat> that's it ... Feisty party at Cafe Momus on April 19th!

<Vorian> !howdy | tshawn_

<ubot3> tshawn_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-ohio!

<Seekker> lol

<tshawn_> thanks all, glad to have found an active group here

<theidiotthatisme> Cafe Momus?

<theidiotthatisme> Hi tshawn_: It gets pretty active O:-)

<theidiotthatisme> Mostly iin good ways...

<tshawn_> that cafe is only a few miles from me, near akron u campus correct?

<theidiotthatisme> Watch for pies

<tshawn_> lol

<Seekker> that's the one, tshawn

<meatballhat> tshawn_: you gots it :)

* jacobmp92 prepares the pies

<theidiotthatisme> jacobmp92! Bad! lol

* jacobmp92 lobs a pie at theidiotthatisme

<meatballhat> it's where the Perl Mongers have their meets ... figured they'd be okay with a pack of Linux nuts

<Seekker> although I've never been there yet

<meatballhat> Seekker: me neither :)

<Seekker> lolol

<Brady_M> HOWDY HO' Neighbor!

<Seekker> hey Brady_M

<meatballhat> Cafe Momus does not answer the phone :(

<tshawn_> here is the link http://www.cafemomus.com/

<Seekker> aww

* theidiotthatisme licks the pie of in a cartoonish fllair

<Seekker> Café Momus 491 Brown Street Akron, Ohio 44311. Phone (330) 379-2233 Fax (330) 379-2236 Email: CafeMomus@neo.rr.com Hours M-Th: 7AM-11PM | F: 7AM-12AM\

<Seekker> should be someone there

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: next time go for the windshield wipers built into yer glasses...

<meatballhat> Seekker: one would think... :P argh

<Seekker> lol

<Seekker> ah well

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: But the pie tastes so good...

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: stick with the cartoony licking thing ;-)

<tshawn_> so, who is working on DST issues at work?

<meatballhat> tshawn_: DST? :-/

<tshawn_> the change to daylight savings time causing headaches

<meatballhat> ah HA!

<tshawn_> ah, daylight savings time

<meatballhat> nay here ... my company doesn't understand "compooters"

<jacobmp92> woah, when _is_ DST?

<Seekker> which takes place this weekend, iirc

<jacobmp92> ah

<theidiotthatisme> jacobmp92: Saturday

<tshawn_> with the change this year is causing us issues..i have to get up at 3:00 am to install a patch

<tshawn_> this sunday

<meatballhat> tshawn_: what company, iydmma?

<tshawn_> 3 or 4 weeks earliar than normal

* Brady_M hands Vorain an Official hand crafted, buckeye'd carved gavel for the first official meeting.

<tshawn_> don't take the wrong way...but i'd rather not say....but it's healthcare....

<Seekker> spiffy

<Seekker> meaning the "official hand crafted, buckeye'd carved gavel'

<Seekker> healthcare systems can be a pain ...

<tshawn_> you got that right

<jacobmp92> Brady_M: 4th :-D

<tshawn_> falling back is ever more of a hassle

<Seekker> :(

<Vorian> I sure am glad we kept logs from last weeks "meeting"

<jacobmp92> lol

<Seekker> wb

-Vorian- Lets get this party started

<meatballhat_> ack

*** meatballhat_ is now known as meatballhat

<Vorian> Welcome to our 3rd Official meeting of the year!

* meatballhat applauds

* theidiotthatisme cheers

<Vorian> We have a fairly large agenda, so let get to it

<hackle577> hey all, sorry i'm late

<Vorian> anyone have anything before we start?

<hackle577> sadly, i did not bring a friend

<theidiotthatisme> Hi hackle577

<Vorian> lol,

<Seekker> don't everybody talk at once ;)

<meatballhat> heehee

<meatballhat> Vorian: agenda!!

<Vorian> /cs m Seekker

<Vorian> first up

<Vorian> Feisty Release Party Planning - Locations, times, etc.

<Vorian> p will made a wiki page for us

<Vorian> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam/FeistyParty

<hackle577> nice job pwill!

<Vorian> p will is sick, so try not to ping him :)

<Brady_M> 19th?

<hackle577> aww

<meatballhat> awesome!

<hackle577> get well soon pwill!

<Vorian> 19th is a thursday

<meatballhat> PWill_sick: get ye well!

<Brady_M> right

<Vorian> I was thinking 20th or 21st

<theidiotthatisme> 19th. If I'm working I wont be able to make it

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: you workin' the 20th, too?

<Vorian> Word of caution!

<cpradio> i most likely can't make the 19th, its close to our implementation date, meaning I have to be at work at 4:30 AM

<Vorian> Does anyone Remember the release of Dapper Drake?

<jacobmp92> May somethin-th

* Brady_M shakes head

<meatballhat> Vorian: delay?

<Vorian> was it released on time :)

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: Dont know, still trying to get hired :-(

<jacobmp92> Vorian: i highly doubt that Feisty will get delayed, not until Dapper nears EOL and a new LTS will be needed

<Vorian> jacobmp92, i agree, but

<jacobmp92> Feisty +1: maybe, low chance; Feisty +2: most likely

<Vorian> There is another factor at play

<jacobmp92> xorg 7.2?

<Vorian> We are guaranteed a ton of CD's

<jacobmp92> ah

<Vorian> They should arrive 2 weeks after the release

* Brady_M screams YES!

<Seekker> lol

<jacobmp92> hmm

<meatballhat> DwyII: hallooo!!!!

* DwyII waves.

<Vorian> hi DwyII :)

<DwyII> Hi there, Vorian. :)

<Vorian> so the questin is

<Vorian> question*

<Vorian> should we wait?

* Brady_M ponder

<hackle577> hmm

<Vorian> 5th of May :)

<meatballhat> until somethin' like a week later?

<Brady_M> Vorian: need blanks. I'll bring blanks

<theidiotthatisme> Vorian: Bad, bad day

<theidiotthatisme> lol

<Seekker> well, why don't you wait till you get the CD's; wouldn't they be easier to distribute then?

<jacobmp92> +1 with Sekker

<Brady_M> Vorian: I got a new 2GB flash drive so I'll predownload it and we can goto town

<Vorian> Brady_M, :)

<Vorian> ok ok

<Seekker> that would work too

<Vorian> This is not an install party really

<Vorian> And a lot of us already run feisty

<meatballhat> meh.... the symbolism of having a party on the day of (or day after) the official release is pretty compelling ...

<Seekker> lol

<hackle577> +1 with meatballhat

<meatballhat> +1 for 'not really an installfest'

<jacobmp92> +1

<Vorian> yep, /me +1 too :P

<meatballhat> well... we can all weigh in on the wiki page, eh?

<tshawn_> sorry, +1 ?

<hackle577> true

<meatballhat> for all those not in attendance, too ;-)

<hackle577> or a forum vote mayhap?

<Brady_M> We just need to bring newbies with their laptops and get them installed eh?

<Vorian> Brady_M, it will be a great time to help out the n00bs

<Brady_M> If in COlumbus +!

<Brady_M> +1

<jacobmp92> tshawn_: +1 = "i agree"

<tshawn_> sorry, thanks

<meatballhat> so .... 'not really an installfest' but 'help available if wanted' + food/drink = fun (?)

<jacobmp92> +1 to that :)

<Vorian> ^ yep

<tshawn_> i agree

<Vorian> its a party!

<meatballhat> locations?

<Seekker> parties are good ;)

<theidiotthatisme> lol

<Vorian> Singular or Plural?

<tshawn_> +1 for singular

<meatballhat> shall we post locations, 1 party v. 3 parties, etc. on the wiki?

<hackle577> i would like to all get together in 1 place, but that might not be easy for some

<jacobmp92> Vorian: i was talking about earlier that many central ohioans wanted one, while others wanted more than one for travel reasons

<Vorian> and the solution is.....

<Vorian> :)

<Brady_M> I got one

<jacobmp92> i'd personally prefer one, but if there are travel issues there could be more (imho)

<tshawn_> during weekday, travel to central ohio would be difficult for me

<cpradio> same here

<Brady_M> If we can't be in one place maybe 1 person per location setup a teamspeak conference :)

<hackle577> ooo

<Brady_M> or video conference

<Seekker> there ya go

<jgedeon> I think if it was during the weekend that alot of car pooling could be done.

<Seekker> yes

<tshawn_> yes

<hackle577> true

<meatballhat> shall we duke it out on the wiki ... maybe a poll on the forum? :D

<tshawn_> we need a gmap mashup!

*** hackle577 is now known as TheFabulotron

<Vorian> poll on the forums it is

<TheFabulotron> ok

* Vorian sets it up

<Brady_M> If we do teamspeak, I can host one at my store

<jacobmp92> sidenote @ Vorian: http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9979/ubuntudonateiv8.png ?

<Brady_M> for people to join

<Vorian> ah!

<Vorian> ty jacobmp92 :)

<jacobmp92> np

<Brady_M> I can donate blanks maybe 2 100 spindals

<meatballhat> that 'bout cover the Feisty Party for now? :D

<meatballhat> with an emphasis on 'for now'

<theidiotthatisme> Guess so

<meatballhat> notskippy! you there??

<PWill_sick> couldn't sleep: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=378860

<meatballhat> next on the agenda? We want to tackle the Linux Fest a bit more? :D

<PWill_sick> jacobmp92: looks good, can you send me the xcf?

<Vorian> meatballhat, onward

<tshawn_> i'd like to, i wanted to go last year but had no contacts

<Vorian> OLF

<jacobmp92> PWill_sick: http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/files/ubuntu-donate.xcf (already up btw)

<PWill_sick> meatballhat: I submitted a form to the LinuxFest sponsor thing

<PWill_sick> thanks jacobmp92

<Vorian> Ohio Linux Fest Plans - Brainstorm on what we'd like to present, and how to raise the money

<meatballhat> PWill_sick: awesome! .... (/me wishes skippy were *actually* skippy...)

<meatballhat> anyone have the pricing for the sponsorship tiers??

<PWill_sick> Vorian: I read this page today: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoComputerFairHowto

<PWill_sick> very useful

<Vorian> :)

<Vorian> The Ohio LinuxFest is the largest conference and expo for Free and Open Source software professionals and enthusiasts in the midwest. Join us for the fifth annual Ohio LinuxFest on September 29, 2007 in Columbus, Ohio. Everyone interested in Linux, Open Source and Free Software are welcome!

<PWill_sick> We basically should have a table with 2 or 3 computers running Ubuntu (Feisty on 1 or 2, and Feisty+1 on another)

<jacobmp92> and one with beryl/compiz ;)

<PWill_sick> yeah

<Vorian> beryl

<theidiotthatisme> Vorian: Are more representing Ubuntu, or the LoCo?

<Vorian> *cough

<theidiotthatisme> *Are we more

<meatballhat> PWill_sick: we'll probably have trouble having that *few* machines running ;-)

<PWill_sick> I can bring in my box for bery

<Vorian> everyone sit down

* PWill_sick sits

<Vorian> I have something to say

* meatballhat sits :)

* theidiotthatisme sits booboo sit

<Vorian> I was chatting w * the other day

<Vorian> and he is planning on coming to the OLF!

<PWill_sick> woooooOO!!!!

<PWill_sick> 1

<PWill_sick> !

<PWill_sick> fxvldfsgklj

<PWill_sick> +1 +1

<jacobmp92> WOOOOOT

<Brady_M> sweet

<Vorian> who is * ?

<jacobmp92> sabdfl i assume?

<PWill_sick> sabdfl,i assume

<PWill_sick> jynx you owe me a soda

<meatballhat> ha!!

<jacobmp92> d'oh

<Vorian> well, you know what they say about assuming

<jacobmp92> hehe

<Vorian> Jono is planning a trip

<meatballhat> ha!

<jacobmp92> hah

<Vorian> He will most likely be here for that event

<theidiotthatisme> ooo I like reading Jono's blog :-)

<jacobmp92> still "woot" :)

<TheFabulotron> sweet!

<Vorian> very unofficial though

<theidiotthatisme> Definite "woot" for Jono!

<Brady_M> Funny guy

<Vorian> I know skippy sent sabdlf an email invitation

<Vorian> so we'll see how that goes

<TheFabulotron> score

<theidiotthatisme> sabdlf said September is a bad month for him

<tshawn_> just for the record, i'm lost

<theidiotthatisme> (from the last CC meeting)

<Seekker> you're not alone, tshawn

<PWill_sick> yeah, skippy really wants sabdfl to come

<PWill_sick> as do all of us

<theidiotthatisme> lol you guys want to fill in for tshawn_ and Seekker?

<Vorian> meatballhat, we are going for gold sponsorship, which is $1250

<Vorian> right PWill_sick?

<meatballhat> we can do that easy ;-)

<PWill_sick> Vorian: yeah

<jacobmp92> tshawn_ & Seekker: sabdfl is mark shuttleworth :)

<tshawn_> ok, caught up ty

<tshawn_> had to google it

<theidiotthatisme> Dont forget about Jono! :-)

<Vorian> jacobmp92, who's mark shuttleworth?

<Seekker> lol, tks

<TheFabulotron> sabdfl = Self-Appointed Benevolent Dictator for Life (ie, Mark Shuttleworth, the God of Ubuntu)

<Brady_M> I'd put a donation bucket on the register for that.

<jacobmp92> ^

<Vorian> what! really!

<PWill_sick> lol

<Vorian> so seriously

<Vorian> we need some funds

<Brady_M> Yea.

<Seekker> how do we raise the money?

<Vorian> how can we raise $1250?

<tshawn_> how many members are we?

<jacobmp92> car washes ftw!

<xaphan_> bake sell?

<theidiotthatisme> 92 I think

<PWill_sick> I pledge $100

<Vorian> PWill_sick, please see the black button on http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/

<meatballhat> 1250/92 = 13.59/ea :D

<Brady_M> Uhm, hmmm... How's this... if my affiliate program goes through (still waiting for a responc, I'd put a % of each complete with Ubuntu on it twords the fund

<TheFabulotron> how many of the 92 are gonna pay up though?

<Seekker> oh, I can handle that ... even with taxes and insurance coming due

<Vorian> I'll match PWill_sick's pledge

<PWill_sick> Vorian: i saw, i'm fixing it up, too (no offense, jacobmp92 )

<jacobmp92> lol

<jacobmp92> again, a few 100 lines up: "*attempt*"

<theidiotthatisme> :-P

<Vorian> ok, so it looks like we just keep asking for donations

<meatballhat> assuming 80/20 law ... up to $69/ea :D

<meatballhat> yup

<Vorian> Any volunteers to seek out sponsors?

<meatballhat> what's the happs with System76?

<jacobmp92> caaaannnooonnniiiiccaaaalll........?

* Vorian hears Dell was compelled by the ideaworks feedback

<PWill_sick> jacobmp92: i agree, canonical will give us some money

<PWill_sick> since we are an official loco now

<PWill_sick> Vorian: you want to file a request?

<jacobmp92> PWill_sick: eh.... i dont think it will be that easy

<tshawn_> i can kick in, not sure how much

<meatballhat> well ... pshaw... it would behoove them, would it not? :D

<Vorian> PWill_sick, I'll find the proper channel to do so.

<TheFabulotron> i heard sabdfl was loaded, let's ask him :-P

<jacobmp92> lol

<Seekker> in any event, it would be worth at least trying

<jacobmp92> true

<Brady_M> Vorian: Who's tresurer of the $$?

<tshawn_> everyone hold 2 e-bay auctions and donate the profit

<Vorian> Brady_M, right now I am

<Vorian> and silence

<PWill_sick> tshawn_: or craigslist

<Brady_M> Vorian: OK. where do we mail the checks?

<tshawn_> seriously, a e-bay account for our team....i have all kinds of goodies i need to get rid of but just can't throw out

<DwyII> If you guys really wanted...I could start taking art commissions and put the proceeds toward this.

<DwyII> I can get $25 for each thing I make.

<meatballhat> DwyII: awesome!!!

<Seekker> cool

<TheFabulotron> schweet!

<PWill_sick> I turn 16 on Monday, so I can finally get a good job

<DwyII> I'm sure that if I said it was for this, tons of linux lovers would be willing.

<Seekker> oi, I feel ancient

<PWill_sick> Seekker: haha

<TheFabulotron> lol

<tshawn_> me too!

<Vorian> Brady_M, http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/ the donate button :)

<theidiotthatisme> PWill_sick: I can never find a good job. Right now I cant find any at all :-(

* DwyII 's bank account has $20 in it. :B Otherwise, that'd be up for grabs too.

* Brady_M raises hand 32 this week.. if that makes anyone feel better

<PWill_sick> theidiotthatisme: where are you living?

<Seekker> well, I think asking the members for $20 each is a good start, too

<Seekker> then whatever else anyone can contribute on top would help

<meatballhat> Seekker: +1 :)

<Vorian> theidiotthatisme, do you live near any Tractor Supply Stores?

<Brady_M> +1 $20.00 np.

<PWill_sick> haha

<theidiotthatisme> PWill_sick: Boardman (outside youngstown). Vorian: No idea, I'd have to check it out

<tshawn_> i'm assuming instructions for donating are online?

<tshawn_> there is one near me in Canton

<theidiotthatisme> tshawn_: Just click the button lol

<PWill_sick> tshawn_: go to http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org and click the donate button

<tshawn_> sorry, have had so much on my plate this week

<xaphan_> any other way to donate besides paypal?

<meatballhat> okay ... so given that we're over 6 mo. away from OLF and we're already this committed, are we confident we can raise the funds *without* any corporate sponsorship?

<tshawn_> ok, so no takers on an auction idea?

<theidiotthatisme> tshawn_: I have nothing to auction :-(

<Seekker> same here

<DwyII> Me too.

<Seekker> but I think the auction Idea is GREAT

<DwyII> ...Except art. :P

<tshawn_> ah, i'm such hardware pack rat

<Brady_M> tshawn_: You know I got copies of Doom 3, and Need for speed most wanted brand new and collecting dust in my store

<tshawn_> right, same type of stuff here

<Seekker> tshawn, maybe a 'bulk' ebay sale?

<theidiotthatisme> Brady_M: I love NFS Most Wanted. Favorite NFS since Underground 1

<Vorian> ok

<Vorian> anything else on the linux fest?

<tshawn_> yes, need to work out the details...but when the auction ends, the funds go to the team paypal account

<meatballhat> Vorian: onward!!!

<Vorian> Subteams - Establishing goals, assigning leaders to empty posts, and recruitment

<Vorian> any team leaders here want to speak up before I do?

<TheFabulotron> oo me!

<Vorian> go!

<TheFabulotron> i just wanted to say, as the sole member of the wiki team, i am not the only one that is allowed to edit our wiki

<TheFabulotron> feel free to add your own stuff, as some have already done

<theidiotthatisme> :-)

<TheFabulotron> </minor announcement>

* jacobmp92 will brb for some food

<TheFabulotron> i like what's recently been added to the education section and party planning, etc.

<Vorian> w00t!

<TheFabulotron> but, with that said...

<meatballhat> <addition> hacking a wiki is neither impressive nor funny </addition>

<meatballhat> :D

<Seekker> lol

<TheFabulotron> lol

<tshawn_> i'm interested in the education section/team

<TheFabulotron> something i think we need to improve is the new user page

<tshawn_> i am trying to get my employer to donate out of lease equipment to me

<TheFabulotron> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam/NewUser

<TheFabulotron> which is linked to from our main page

<Seekker> I'm looking into donated equipment as well

<TheFabulotron> it's blank, but needs the appropriate materials for new ubuntu users

<TheFabulotron> another page that's blank is the new members page

<TheFabulotron> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam/NewMember

<TheFabulotron> i think we should get something up there, especially for the new users page

<theidiotthatisme> I didn't even notice those existed... >.<

<Seekker> at the least links to the Desktop Guide and forums?

<TheFabulotron> yeah, i just noticed yesterday

<TheFabulotron> seekker: yeah

<meatballhat> TheFabulotron: can we list all the SubPages at the very bottom of OhioTeam? ... I know it's messy, but....

<TheFabulotron> and some content on linux basics perhaps or Ohio-related Ubuntu customizations (time zones, etc.)

<TheFabulotron> meatballhat: sure

<TheFabulotron> what is the macro? [[Include,children 0]] or something like that?

<Seekker> some of the info/tut pages that Vorian feeds ubot3 could be posted there too

<meatballhat> TheFabulotron: with the (children, 0) command thingy ... .yup

<TheFabulotron> ok

<Vorian> Seekker, ubot3 is not mine :)

<Vorian> it the community bot.

<Seekker> oh, you just feed it, eh ? :)

<Vorian> !botsnack

<ubot3> Yum!

<Seekker> lol

<Vorian> yep

<TheFabulotron> ha!

<meatballhat> !botsnack | self

<ubot3> self: please see above

<PWill_sick> !pizza

<ubot3> Factoid pizza not found

<tshawn_> i have to excuse myself, have to be up at 3:00 am, night all

<PWill_sick> dang

<meatballhat> mmmmm ... er ... not so good :P

<jacobmp92> see ya tshawn_

<PWill_sick> night tshawn_

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<meatballhat> sorry ...

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<Seekker> night tshawn, nice meeting yiou

<Seekker> you*

<theidiotthatisme> Goodnight tshawn_

<Vorian> night tshawn_

<meatballhat> back to Agenda!

<meatballhat> 'night tshawn_

<DwyII> G'night tshawn_

<meatballhat> !

<tshawn_> thanks and same to all, count me in!

<jacobmp92> Vorian: you better hope the bot autojoins after that :-p

<Vorian> i just muted it

<jacobmp92> !hi

<jacobmp92> heh

<Vorian> :)

<Vorian> ok

<Vorian> any other team leaders?

<Vorian> my turn

<theidiotthatisme> Vorian: Did you have something about it you wanted to talk about?

<Vorian> I want to see us reach 200+ members by the Linux Fest!

<meatballhat> what Teams are lacking leadershipL

<meatballhat> ?

<theidiotthatisme> Let's check

<Vorian> meatballhat, none, all bases are covered

<theidiotthatisme> Who's the leader for the New User team?

<meatballhat> schweet

<Seekker> shouldn't be too difficult to double our membership in six months

<Vorian> Seekker, that's the spirit!

<Seekker> lol

<jacobmp92> +1

<meatballhat> can-do all the way!!!

<theidiotthatisme> Vorian: I think the Wiki for the New User team is incorrect, who's the leader of the NU Team?

<TheFabulotron> yeah i havent been keeping watch, sorry

<jacobmp92> theidiotthatisme: looks like you are :)

<jacobmp92> https://launchpad.net/~oh-new

<Vorian> ah!

<Vorian> do we need a Leader?

<theidiotthatisme> jacobmp92: That's why I was asking. I'm head of the Education Team

<Brady_M> Uhm.. hmm..Well. uh. I'm interested.

* Seekker votes for Brady_M

<theidiotthatisme> jacobmp92: I'm afraid it would be hard and impractical to be leader of two teams lol Though I am part of the NU, Marketing, Communication, and Education team

<Brady_M> What's expected

<Vorian> Brady_M,

<PWill_sick> +1 Brady_M

<jacobmp92> +1 Brady_M

<Vorian> Brady_M, helping new users transitioning

<jacobmp92> +1 for theidiotthatisme's reason

<meatballhat> +1 !!! Brady_M yaaaayyy!

<PWill_sick> lol

<Brady_M> I can no problem :) done and done

<theidiotthatisme> +1 Brady_M

<Vorian> ok

<Seekker> that was easy

<theidiotthatisme> Who's working on the F2F?

<Vorian> +1 from me too

<jacobmp92> theidiotthatisme: ahoy

<Vorian> theidiotthatisme, simma down

<theidiotthatisme> O:-)

<Vorian> Brady_M, #ubuntuforums-beginners

<Vorian> ok, theidiotthatisme go ahead

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<TheFabulotron> all OhioTeam subpages are now visible on the wiki main page

<Brady_M> Vorian: thanks

<Vorian> :)

<theidiotthatisme> Vorian: I was just wondering the progress is all lol

<meatballhat> TheFabulotron: awesome! :)

<Vorian> Brady_M, thanks for helping out :)

<Vorian> jacobmp92, how goes it then?

<Brady_M> Vorian: My pleasure

<jacobmp92> i guess i should probably say this in the main channel: it might be developed off-site initially but might be transfered

<jacobmp92> phpmyadmin nor mysql plays well on the server :-p

<Vorian> pimpmyadmin?

<jacobmp92> in fact, it might not even be a drupal module, but rather a small support system w/o the need for drupal to back it

<PWill_sick> jacobmp92: did you file a request for phpmyadmin?

<PWill_sick> i forgot to ask how the installation wenr

<PWill_sick> went

<jacobmp92> PWill_sick: i suppose I could, but judging by their serve setup it would be complicated to get running right

<jacobmp92> it should be working... but PHP is restricting some things dealing w/ files

<PWill_sick> jacobmp92: http://www.smoothweb.net/file/ubuntu-donate.png

<PWill_sick> whoops, 40

<PWill_sick> 4

<PWill_sick> jacobmp92: http://www.smoothweb.net/files/ubuntu-donate.png

<meatballhat> ugh ... just pour water on eth0 and pray... 'Appalachian Hacking'

<jacobmp92> lol, nice 404 message pwill

<PWill_sick> heh

<PWill_sick> jacobmp92: the bling was good on yours, but it doesn't play well with out current theme

<jacobmp92> PWill_sick: looks nice, although the donate text looks a bit squished

<PWill_sick> yeah, i;ll fix it

<Vorian> PWill_sick, how about "donate" from edge to edge over the logo's

<meatballhat> where we at on the Agenda? F2F progress handled? :)

<jacobmp92> seems to be

<PWill_sick> Vorian: will do

<Vorian> done

<Vorian> ty PWill_sick

<Brady_M> Vorian: Hmm.. T-shirts.. Doesn't Cafe Press offer special discounts to non profit organizations on their site?

<Vorian> ok moving on

<meatballhat> libraries! CD distribution! where my peeps at?

<Vorian> Library Partnerships - Where are your Ubuntu CDs?

* Vorian raises his hand

<theidiotthatisme> well we recieved an email from the director of Oplin earlier today on the mailing list :-)

<Seekker> and ?

<meatballhat> Stephen Hedges, yes ...

<Seekker> ohhhh, I read that

<Seekker> nm

<Seekker> sowwy

<theidiotthatisme> lol

<theidiotthatisme> We still need to finish the booklet content for the DVD cases

<Seekker> you have a link?

<theidiotthatisme> and design the booklet under Scribus, and then we're ready to send an email to the Oplin mailing list

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: :D .... lets convene via IRC to get back on track - tomorrow maybe?

<DwyII> I need to head off and finish my calc homework. Good meeting tonight, everyone!

<meatballhat> DwyII: nighty night!

* DwyII highfives all around.

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: IRC or Jabber is good

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: excellent

<Vorian> A good number -- maybe 20+ -- public libraries have "hacker

<Vorian> librarians" on staff these days. Not as many as the academic libraries

<Vorian> have, but still quite a few. My suggestion would be to announce the

<Vorian> availability of the free CDs on a couple of public librarian mailing

<Vorian> lists, something like, "Here's a free CD, load it on a spare machine,

<Vorian> see how you like it." (I can make that announcement when you're

<Vorian> ready.) And I'll bet you get about 20 takers. But that's a toe in the

<Vorian> door, and librarians really like to talk to each other at conferences

<Vorian> and stuff, so the word will eventually get around about how easy and

<Vorian> not-scary Ubuntu is. My suggestion anyway. (Sorry I won't be at the

<Vorian> meeting tonight.)

<theidiotthatisme> Seekker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam/CDdistribution/Workbench under booklet content

<Seekker> yes, Vorian, I did read that earlier, sowwy

<Seekker> thanks TheFabulotron

<Seekker> oops

<Seekker> theidiotthatisme:

<Vorian> i was posting it for everyone else?

<meatballhat> very awesome ..... B-)

<Vorian> else :)*

<meatballhat> Vorian: thanks for the review, yes :D

<Seekker> okies ;)

<theidiotthatisme> :-)

<Vorian> np

<Brady_M> Vorian: So, I going to need the guidance bud on this new position.

<Vorian> Brady_M, in a bit

<meatballhat> so ... Marketing and Education Teams .... theidiotthatisme and I will chit-chat tomorrow and then we'll get this project back in gear --- continue discussion on mailing list

<meatballhat> sound good? :)

<theidiotthatisme> Sounds great :-)

<Seekker> works for me

<Vorian> yippee

<Vorian> next

<Vorian> Code of Conduct - Netiquette and Ubuntero mentoring

<meatballhat> all non-Ubunteros raise your hands

* TheFabulotron raises hand

* theidiotthatisme raises hand

<Seekker> I just signed the CoC

<theidiotthatisme> I've got the key now, just need to sign it

<Vorian> if you don't know what an ubuntero is, you need to raise your hand

<meatballhat> I think we're doing much better with Netiquitte these days, btw ;-)

<Vorian> :P

<meatballhat> Vorian: true dat ;-)

<TheFabulotron> sorry guys, gotta run

<TheFabulotron> the lady's calling :-P

<Seekker> see ya!

<Vorian> night TheFabulotron

<TheFabulotron> night all!

<Vorian> !hi | TheFabulotron

<ubot3> TheFabulotron: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-ohio!

<PWill_sick> Vorian, jacobmp92: http://www.smoothweb.net/files/ubuntu-donate.png

<PWill_sick> I remembered that we can't cover up the Ubuntu logo

<PWill_sick> since canonical got the new marketing lady

<PWill_sick> so i just covered up the flag a bit

<Vorian> hehe

<jacobmp92> :-p

<theidiotthatisme> Is there anything left on the agenda?

<PWill_sick> should i upload that new donate icon?

<jacobmp92> sure

<PWill_sick> k

<PWill_sick> hold on

<jacobmp92> just overwrite the other one

<Vorian> PWill_sick, drop the ohio flag

<meatballhat> ugh ...

<PWill_sick> k

<Seekker> wb

<Vorian> :)

<Vorian> !hi | meatballhat

<ubot3> meatballhat: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-ohio!

<meatballhat> yay ... I be back!

* Seekker concurs that either 'donate' needs to be inside, or drop the flag

<PWill_sick> Vorian: http://www.smoothweb.net/files/ubuntu-donate.png

<PWill_sick> will upload in a sec

<Vorian> PWill_sick, kewl!

<Seekker> much betta

<jacobmp92> sweetage

<PWill_sick> live here: http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/

<meatballhat> yo! I just got a ping from beuno in #ubuntu-marketing ... he wants a piece written up about our LoCo Team getting Approved for UWN #31

<Vorian> d00t!

<PWill_sick> uwn?

<Seekker> there ya go, PWill_sick ...

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: How long before UWN #31 is out?

<meatballhat> tomorrow, I think :)

<theidiotthatisme> I was reading up on UWN a while back ago

* PWill_sick is confused...

<Vorian> what ever happened to UWN #30?

<meatballhat> Ubuntu Weekly News

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: That's kind of short notice.. lol

<Vorian> lol

<PWill_sick> oh

* PWill_sick can't think when he's sick

<Vorian> what ever happened to UWN #30? <-----meatballhat

<meatballhat> #30 is old news ... gonna get released as an afterthought methinks

<Vorian> its been like 3 weeks!

<jacobmp92> what ever happened to the new ubuntu.com for that matter?

<meatballhat> the lead "editor" position has been in flux for past several months

<Seekker> is there a signup link for UWN?

<Vorian> should be UKWN!

<Vorian> ubuntu kindof weekly, news

<theidiotthatisme> lol

<jacobmp92> lol

<Seekker> aw, and here I thought the K was for KDE ;)

<PWill_sick> jacobmp92: it should come out around the same time as Duke Nukem Forever

<jacobmp92> lol

<Vorian> kde is the devil

<theidiotthatisme> Monthly might be better ;) but yeah

<Seekker> not!

<meatballhat> the UWN is always available on the Wiki and is pushed out in the ubuntu-announce mailer

<PWill_sick> Vorian: +1

<Vorian> :P

<jacobmp92> lol

<goatdad13> I can try to put something together but I don't know any of the details

<meatballhat> si ... monthly or quarterly :P

<Seekker> ok, tks meatballhat

<theidiotthatisme> It's just... with Planet and Fridge, UWN seems it'd be better for compiling more news in a bi-weekly or monthly

<meatballhat> Seekker: :) ... the Marketing Team ends up doing a lot of oddball stuff ... the UWN should really be called the Ubuntu Developers Progress Log + 1 or 2 special interest pieces

<Seekker> hrm

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: you got it

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: I joined the Marketing Team, but haven't participated much into it. I really want to focus on the LoCo first and foremost

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: Mostly just signed up for the mailing list

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: right on ... I was on the Marketing Team prior to formation of the Ohio LoCo ... now my time is 80% Ohio LoCo, 20% MT :)

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: I'm just too much into the LoCo's marketing and education team ;)

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: I'm hoping I can really help grow the Education Team. it's been some crazy weeks so it's been a little hard creating resources by myself (especially after I had the Mozilla Thunderbird more than half way done only to lose it. Hence the inspiration for the resource snapshots lol)

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: And I'm loving the collaboration of the ET and MT ;)

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: right on :) ... all the experience we gain as a LoCo Team can and should be passed "upstream" to everyone else in the Ubuntu community ... if we can do it right in Ohio, then others should be able to do it elsewhere (right?) :D

<Brady_M> meatballhat: Anyone here give you a buzz from the meeting I had hear in town yet?

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: That's part of what I was talking about with Vorian earlier for the LinuxFest (not only showing off Ubuntu, but the LoCo and the projects we work on and how to help grow projects for other Linux groups)

<meatballhat> Brady_M: not yet ... :-/

<Brady_M> meatballhat: i'LL MAKE A FOLLOWUP WITH THE DIRECTOR

* Brady_M Bah caps!

<PWill_sick> CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: if that's what our message is for the OLF, so be it :)

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: We shall see what all we can cover there :-)

<PWill_sick> at OLF we need a way to attract people though

<PWill_sick> because all of the booths look the same

<PWill_sick> a computer or two, a sign, and some people sitting in chairs

<theidiotthatisme> PWill_sick: Should we create a Wiki page for OLF ideas?

<meatballhat> PWill_sick: you thinking what I'm thinking ??

<theidiotthatisme> NO PIES

<theidiotthatisme> lol

<meatballhat> silly string!

<PWill_sick> hahaha

* PWill_sick throws pie at OLF goer

<Seekker> how 'bout an Ohio Flag, too?

<PWill_sick> yeah

<PWill_sick> oh man

<theidiotthatisme> I was thinking about an Ohio LoCo banner for the booth too

<PWill_sick> i can think of a cool idea. i could make a poster with our logo

<theidiotthatisme> I can ask my brother about the costs and design of them. He's made some for his business before

<meatballhat> +1 for a big ol' banner

<PWill_sick> that i already made

<PWill_sick> i have SVGs of the Ubuntu Logo, and of the Ohio flag

<theidiotthatisme> Shall we make a wiki page for OLF? :-D

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: do it! :)

<PWill_sick> theidiotthatisme: want me to?

<PWill_sick> or you can

<meatballhat> wiki wiki wiki

<PWill_sick> whatever

<theidiotthatisme> PWill_sick: Either, it doesn't matter lol. I'm not very good at Wikiing, so it's up to you

<Seekker> have a contest for best ohio ubuntu banner

<Brady_M> PWill_sick: If you need a banner. I have some local here we been talking about exchanging services for him to do somthing for me. He does vynl stickers etc. I can followup with him tomorrow and see what's going on.

<PWill_sick> actually, my best friend's dad is a graphic designer for OSU, and he has one of those sweet printers

<PWill_sick> oh, that would work, too, Black5un

<PWill_sick> oh, that would work, too, Brady_M

<PWill_sick> sorry, Black5un

<PWill_sick> lol

<meatballhat> any time left for talk of Install Fests? leave it for next week?

<PWill_sick> Seekker: this one here http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/themes/ubuntu/images/headerlogo.png :-P

<Seekker> oh yeah, I love that

<Brady_M> PWill_sick: Hey if you need the banner, I need it in full scale size. so it comes out sharp

* Seekker warns ya'll now ... if I can make it ... I'm brining my Kubuntu!

<theidiotthatisme> Seekker: That's fine, I'm bring Xubuntu ;)

<Brady_M> lol

* Seekker chuckles

<PWill_sick> Brady_M: I have SVGs of the logo, and the flag, so I can make it an infinite size

* meatballhat brings IceBuntu :P

<PWill_sick> PWill_sick: brings Ubuntu server edition, command line only

<Seekker> lol, sounds like we'll have all the bases covered

<PWill_sick> heh

<Brady_M> PWill_sick: and put on the alsa mp3 terminal up and the ansi picture viewer lol

<PWill_sick> haha

* meatballhat brings 4MB stick of memory and a battery...

<theidiotthatisme> PWill_sick: Should I go ahead with OLF wiki page?

<PWill_sick> ~:$ aplay coolsong.wav

<PWill_sick> theidiotthatisme: yeah

<theidiotthatisme> okee dokee

<PWill_sick> where'd Vorian go?

<meatballhat> Vorian: !!

<Seekker> I was just wondering that too

<PWill_sick> I had to tell him something, but he disappeared

<meatballhat> you gonna send us packing or what? :D

<Vorian> theidiotthatisme, do it

<PWill_sick> Vorian: check PM

<Vorian> what!

<Vorian> PWill_sick, nothing in pm!

<meatballhat> Vorian: you're supposed to tell us to wrap ... it ... up .... ;-)

<Vorian> !vorian

<ubot3> Factoid vorian not found

<Vorian> oops!

<Vorian> ok thats all folks!

<Brady_M> Gavel!

* Seekker lol

-Vorian- Gong!

<Brady_M> lol

<Seekker> I must say, I'm very impressed ... first time I've ever seen such quick disposition of agenda items ... in *any* forum ... well done, guys

<Brady_M> Vorian: OK. I'm in the #ubuntuforums-beginners room.

<meatballhat> Seekker: thank you ! that means a lot to us :) glad you've joined the ranks!

<theidiotthatisme> Seekker: That's about average I think. Vorian usually does a good job of keeping on us ;)

<Seekker> hehe, thanks meatballhat ... I'm proud to be a part of Ubuntu-Ohio!

<Seekker> thanks, theidiotthatisme

<Seekker> it's good to know that there is efficiency in the ranks

<meatballhat> pssst .... in Akron 2009: http://www.freegeek.org

<PWill_sick> Vorian: is there still nothing in your PM? I sent a message twice...

<Seekker> ohhhh yeah!

* meatballhat runs away

<meatballhat> heeehee

<theidiotthatisme> Seekker: Not all of us. lol

<Seekker> lol

<PWill_sick> http://www.freegeekcolumbus.org/

<meatballhat> goodnight all!!!

<Seekker> good night

<meatballhat> gotta run :D

<Brady_M> meatballhat: NIGHT

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: jabber tomorrow

<meatballhat> :)

* Brady_M beats his caps key to smithereens

<meatballhat> GOODBYE IN ALL CAPS

<Seekker> lol

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: Will be there

<Seekker> okay, I'm off as well ... talk to you later, guys

<Brady_M> bye.

* Brady_M waits out. for a few more.

<theidiotthatisme> Seekker:

<theidiotthatisme> oops lol

<Seekker> ?

<theidiotthatisme> Seekker: If you'd like join me and meatballhat tomorrow

<Seekker> I will if I can ... I'll have to install jabber ... i don't generally do IM

<rrittenhouse> whats going on with jabber? :P

<theidiotthatisme> Or also if you ever have any ideas for the Education Team let me know or post on the Wiki :-)

<Seekker> will do ...

<theidiotthatisme> Or just get bored lol

<theidiotthatisme> (I'm heading off too btw)

<Seekker> nah, don't have time to be bored

<Seekker> g'night to you, then

<theidiotthatisme> lol Night everyone!

<Brady_M> night..

<Seekker> rrittenhouse, meatballhat and theidiotthatisme are getting together to discuss Education and Marketing Team issues

<rrittenhouse> oooh cool.

<Seekker> I'm sure they wouldn't mind if you wanted to join in

<rrittenhouse> u guys see that ubuntuwire post on the planet a few days ago?

<theidiotthatisme> Nope

<rrittenhouse> https://www.ubuntuwire.com/user_reg.php

<theidiotthatisme> rrittenhouse: Anyone is always welcome in to discuss anything at anytime

<theidiotthatisme> We are a very open team :-)

<rrittenhouse> i work 7am-7pm so if i can join in at night haha

<Seekker> ooo, yet another free email addy!

<Vorian> PWill_sick, your nick is not registered, therefore no pm's

<PWill_sick> oh, right

*** PWill_sick is now known as PWill

<PWill> ugh

<Brady_M> Vorian: you off getting coffee?

<Vorian> not really

<Vorian> :)

<theidiotthatisme> rrittenhouse: It will probably be in the evening

<rrittenhouse> cool if im around tell me and ill jump in

<rrittenhouse> i use tad@tadstech.com

<Brady_M> Vorian: so. Help me out here. walk me through my new rank

<theidiotthatisme> rrittenhouse: Is it alright if I add you to my bl in Jabber?

<rrittenhouse> sure!

<theidiotthatisme> Added :-)

<Brady_M> :-/

<Vorian> Brady_M, new user team helps people transition from anything to Ubuntu

<Vorian> I would recommend joining this team

<Vorian> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=215

<Vorian> and encouraging other to do the same, if capable.

<Brady_M> Vorian: ok

<Brady_M> and what's the #ubuntuforums-beginners room for?

<Vorian> on IRC there is a beginners channel

<Vorian> #ubuntuforums-beginners

<Brady_M> ok

<Brady_M> So in this thread, do I need to register for it

<jgedeon> away

<Brady_M> http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/blog/2007/03/open_letter_to_mark_shuttlewor.html

<theidiotthatisme> Brady_M: I dont think Shuttleworth needs to build his own. There are already vendors willing to preload Linux, and I think we need to support the existing ones instead of bringing a new one forth

<theidiotthatisme> System76, Shafetech, Koobox, EmperorLinux

<Brady_M> Well everyone and anyone has sent him replies with the system76.com site on there. :)

<Brady_M> I did too

<Brady_M> Sir, your answers had already been heard. http://www.system76.com/

<Brady_M> Anymore help?

<Brady_M> Ubuntu Ohio Team Member

<Brady_M> :)

<Brady_M> OH FYI! I read Feisty will come with a migration tool to copy all documents, wallpapers, and favorites on the cD!!

* Brady_M looking for the read

<Brady_M> Here: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/misc/utf8-migration-tool

<Brady_M> ah that's the dapper one

<boredandblogging> hello

<Brady_M> Hey there

<boredandblogging> i'm from the Georgia LoCo

<boredandblogging> wondering if anyone was good with logos...ours needs some work

<Vorian> !hi | boredandblogging

<ubot3> boredandblogging: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-ohio!

<boredandblogging> hey vorian

<boredandblogging> not sure who made ours, but its not pretty

* Brady_M kicks Vorain Hey yo Boss! Someone's callin' ya at the front door.

<Brady_M> boredandblogging: Well we started a thread at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=355960 asking people to upload ideas and letting people pick and choose.

<Brady_M> boredandblogging: You could shoot a suggestion there and I am sure the peeps would send replies back

<boredandblogging> like posting a thread on the ohio forums? I don't think enough people would see it if I put it in the Georgia forums.

<Brady_M> boredandblogging: yea, just reply to that post. We seem to use it allot here. I know Vorain reads them religously

<boredandblogging> vorian is a crazy man, he is everywhere all the time

* Brady_M agrees

<Brady_M> Hard working on this big time

* Brady_M wouldn't be suprized he has an ubuntu pillow to hold at night

<Brady_M> or even a shrine at this time :)

<Brady_M> +1 for Vorain

<Brady_M> Here's the new info on the Ubuntu Migration tools that will be in Feisty BTW http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2007030602726RVDB

<boredandblogging> I posted to the ohio forums, hopefully we get some good ideas

*** ubot3` is now known as ubot3

<derspankster> Brady_M, you there?

<Brady_M> derspankster: I am now bud

*** notskippy is now known as skippy

<derspankster> Brady_M, still there, had to leave a moment

<Brady_M> yea

<derspankster> just wanted to tell you that I cleaned up the heat sink and chip on that video card, applied some arctic silver and reattached the hs

<derspankster> made no difference

<Brady_M> Aw!

<derspankster> I believe the gpu is toast

<derspankster> it's an EVGA so I emailed them

<derspankster> they responded that they didn't think the card was working correctly.

<Brady_M> yea, hopfully you can get an RMA on that

<derspankster> what technical prowness

<derspankster> I wrote them back

<derspankster> said, Gee, I kinda figured that but thanks for your opinion

<Brady_M> lol

<derspankster> the card works but there's no mouse arrow - just a fuzzy rectangle where it should be

<derspankster> then - any mouse click freezes the display

<derspankster> but the wheel works OK

<derspankster> not seen this type of thing before

<meatballhat> mornin'

* Brady_M grumble monrginnnngnn

<derspankster> morning

<meatballhat> coffeeeee.... need more.....

<derspankster> already had a pot

* Brady_M agrees on cup 3

<Seekker> lol

<Brady_M> These barbie bandits story is hilarious!

<Brady_M> watch cnn

<Brady_M> LOLLOLOLOL

<meatballhat> Seekker: you ever hang out in #ubuntu-women?

<Seekker> no, I haven't

* Seekker generally isn't into the 'normal' fem chit chat

<Seekker> have even considered unsubscribing from the U-W mailing lisst

<meatballhat> Seekker: sorry ... didn't mean to abandon you there :-/ ....

<Seekker> you didn't ;) ... /me knows you're working

<meatballhat> so are you ;-) (right?)

<Seekker> yeah, I am

<meatballhat> :D

<Seekker> though I work out of my home

<Seekker> *most* of the time

<meatballhat> as I hope to (someday ...)

* Seekker nods

<Seekker> it has its advantanges and disadvantages, just like everything else

<meatballhat> almost all of our company's sales force works from home ... some flourish, others stagnate ... depends on the person :)

<Seekker> yes

<Seekker> one has to stay disciplined / motivated

<Seekker> not easily distracted

<meatballhat> Seekker: I'm really glad we have members like you and Brady_M ... making Ubuntu part of your livelihood ... I want to make sure our Team can bolster your efforts

<Seekker> that is greatly appreciated

<Seekker> it's nice to know there is 'someone' out there to even depend on

<meatballhat> I'm clearly on the Linus side of the camp in that way ... OpenSource should not mean 'anti-commerce'

<Seekker> right

<Seekker> one does have to make a living

<meatballhat> all of the universe works in cycles ... we need money to live, so that cycle must be supported ... making money, selling goods and services, each has its place

<Seekker> yes

<meatballhat> flattening out the playing field and making MS and Apple compete with a new player ... that's about as free-market-America as it can get

* Seekker grins .... that's my goal

<meatballhat> </speech>

<meatballhat> :D

* Seekker has been very pro 'freeware' for a long time

<Seekker> basically, dictated by my budget, but hey

<Seekker> whatever works

<meatballhat> I'll second that

<meatballhat> I'm using Python/Zope/Eclipse instead of VB/.NET/Visual Studio because of budget :)

<Seekker> cool

<Seekker> I hope to learn some programming some day

<meatballhat> by all accounts, the free-er approach is more secure and more powerful all 'round

<Seekker> whenever I get some sort of a 'life' back ... lol

<Seekker> aye, that it is from what I've seen

<meatballhat> 'tis a great time ... I've only been in it for 9 months or so ... can't believe I ever lived without it :P

<Seekker> hehe ... I know what you mean

<Seekker> my guess is, I'm going to need to be proficient in both Ubuntu and Kubuntu in order to support my customers

<Seekker> thus far, I'm really only worked with Kubuntu

<Seekker> for about 4 days, I sunk my teeth into "linux from scratch"

<Seekker> I got all the way to the end of the tutorial, when grub didn't want to work right

<Seekker> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

<Seekker> however, it was a great experience

<Seekker> and I learned alot

<meatballhat> Seekker: that sounds like fun!

<meatballhat> I got to have some fun with Grub a few months back

<Seekker> it was, actually

<meatballhat> I'm serious ;-{

<meatballhat> :-)

<meatballhat> oop

<Seekker> hehe

<meatballhat> didn't mean to give you "mr. handlebar moustache"

<Seekker> not to worry

<meatballhat> Grub is a great time :D ... my Dad's local power is spotty and he doesn't have a UPS ....

<Seekker> I have to figure out why qparted can't read/recognize my harddrive

<Seekker> it keeps erring on me

<meatballhat> egad!

<Seekker> yeah

<meatballhat> you don't have anything fancy like RAID, right?

<Seekker> ubuntu was a ble to read and partition this drive; but qparted cant

<Seekker> no, I don't

* Seekker can't afford fancy dancy

<Seekker> my upgrades usually come from customer cast offs

<meatballhat> hrm... goofy ... but I seem to remember having a similar experience with a GParted Live CD

<meatballhat> heehee ... gotcha

<Seekker> really?

<Seekker> that's odd

<meatballhat> yup

<meatballhat> I like to use the Ubuntu "Alternate" CD to do all kinds of poking around

<Seekker> ah

<Seekker> I burned that one first ... before I re-remembered all the linux I had forgotten

<Seekker> scared the tar out of me ... I went and burned the Kubuntu Live CD

<meatballhat> it has a busybox-based Parted that's never failed me

<meatballhat> heehee :)

<meatballhat> scared the *tarball* outta you, you mean?

<Seekker> now that I've played with it and the lfs [linux from scratch], I've remembered most of what I forgot, and learned a bunch new in the process ... which is always a good thing

<meatballhat> :P

<Seekker> lolol

<Seekker> actually, the lfs cured me of tarballitis

<meatballhat> I like learning, yes... linux is the cure for that itch, for sure

<Seekker> aye

<meatballhat> it NEVER ENDS

<Seekker> lol, true

<Seekker> and more often than not ends up being 'baptism by fire'

* meatballhat nods vigorously

<Seekker> wb

*** PWill is now known as OldGnuMan

*** OldGnuMan is now known as PWill

*** skippy is now known as notskippy

<cpradio> I am analyzing the process of converting my wife's laptop, anyone have suggestions on converting Outlook mail to something readable by Linux? I did find this, but would it also apply to Kmail? http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/moving-outlook-email-data-to-linux-evolution-mail-client.html

<Seekker> thunderbird?

<Seekker> should be able to export from OE to TB

<Seekker> erm

<Seekker> export from OE

<Seekker> then from TB, do an import

<Seekker> at least, that is my understanding

<Seekker> I've not done it yet

<cpradio> right, but I personally hate Thunderbird, and I have seen that Evolution can then import Thunderbird messages. I am hoping Kmail could too

<Seekker> yeah, either that or ... [/me shivers] Mozilla

<cpradio> okay. That is the only problem/hold up I have with converting her laptop. I have to get the emails to transfer smoothly.

<Seekker> http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/29/

<Seekker> about half way down the page

<Seekker> eventhough that guy is reviewing a proprietary software, the gist of what is needed to move OE over to 'nix is there

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