| <ubot3> New news from planetuk: Caroline Ford: !!! <http://secretlondon.livejournal.com/141297.html> | |
| <linux1> sup ppl | |
| <chaddy> lo linux1 | |
| <linux1> how it going chaddy | |
| <chaddy> not too bad, how about you | |
| <chaddy> ? | |
| <linux1> i'm fine thanks just catching up on watching heroes | |
| <disco\\> . | |
| <mrben> morning all | |
| <stdin> god, is it morning already | |
| <GazzaK> Morning All | |
| <daviey> moooooo'rning | |
| <GazzaK> Mooooo | |
| <daviey> baa | |
| <GazzaK> cluck cluck | |
| <mrben> woof | |
| <GazzaK> hey jono, will you be mine? | |
| <jono> yo | |
| <jono> GazzaK: well, that depends what it involves | |
| <jono> :P | |
| <GazzaK> erm.... whatever you want :-) | |
| <GazzaK> damnit, why do you have to answer like that... I don't know how to react to that. | |
| * GazzaK hides | |
| <LoudMouthMan> sigh uninstalling applications in Vista is very very very annoying . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> you get "your uninstalling application X , are you sure you want to do this?" , you click yes. then it asks the same question about 4 different ways phrased in such ways that you cant just next, next, next it. aaaaaaargh I want a --force for my control panel apps. | |
| <GazzaK> LoudMouthMan, you "testing" vista? | |
| <daviey> LoudMouthMan, are you using the Vista dUmltimate edition? You need the 'pro' version | |
| <LoudMouthMan> no im doing yet another fresh install on a new laptop for a client . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> daviey its pro . on a 640m . and its slower ( much slower ) than the XP pro on its brother to the right. | |
| <JohnRobert> anyone know where the uml kernel is compiled to by default? (2.6 kernel)? | |
| <JohnRobert> I take it it's not arch/i386 | |
| <popey> morning all | |
| <JohnRobert> hi | |
| <DaveMorri1> popey: Do you use a web interface task tracking software for support requests etc | |
| <popey> morning | |
| <popey> i use other peoples | |
| <popey> i plan to install my own - rt from best practical or perhaps trac, dunno | |
| <DaveMorri1> names of some good ones? | |
| <popey> RT or Trac | |
| <DaveMorri1> cheers, now to encourage my uni to use it rather than the ad hoc system they use now | |
| <popey> RT is very popular | |
| <popey> trac is nice because it has a built in wiki | |
| <DaveMorri1> put a request in for a firewall change on paper like they requested. They don't get back to you for a month (there policy) so a month passes and nothing, contact them and they'd lost the #$%@ request! | |
| <popey> hah | |
| <popey> thats truly awful | |
| <DaveMorri1> yeah, why it takes a month to open ssh inbound I don't know | |
| <LoudMouthMan> dadvemorri1 does your uni use any sort of proxt between your client and the net ? if not go have a look at running hamachi between your client and an outside server if you can ? | |
| <DaveMorri1> yeah, proxy | |
| <popey> you can ssh through a proxy :) | |
| <popey> i did that for some time | |
| <DaveMorri1> I can setup a tunnel from here to home, and have it auto re creatre and then reverse it | |
| <popey> exactly | |
| <DaveMorri1> or I can come in through 2 other boxes I have root for | |
| <DaveMorri1> just easier to go direct | |
| <JohnRobert> DaveMorri1: I had to get three sigs at soton uni too | |
| <JohnRobert> one from my manager, one from the head of geography and one from the head of the network management | |
| <DaveMorri1> but did it take a month once you handed in the form with the sigs? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah hamachis premium does the proxy thing but the free wont . | |
| <popey> openvpn? | |
| <DaveMorri1> LoudMouthMan: what are your fees for 1st and 2nd line support? You able to send me a price list? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> openvpn requires ports to be forwarded as well from my experiences. | |
| <JohnRobert> DaveMorri1: it took time yeah | |
| <JohnRobert> not that long though | |
| <DaveMorri1> JohnRobert: It admin is a joke here (hopes none of them are in here) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Davemorri1 im 60 + vat an hour call me directly if you have a specific need . | |
| <JohnRobert> DaveMorri1: It's like that at this uni | |
| <JohnRobert> every 2 minutes they completely re-organise the entire uni | |
| <JohnRobert> thinking it will help | |
| <DaveMorri1> LoudMouthMan: Might have a business plan in 3-4 months, but wanted to pass out the support | |
| <DaveMorri1> what gets me, is that as a programmer the sysadmins should know more than me, but they don't | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Davemorri1 it might be better to consider usign a call centre along with a ticket system and script which keeps your entry to call costs down! | |
| <DaveMorri1> *about doing sysadmin tasks etc | |
| <DaveMorri1> cheers LoudMouthMan, I'll look into nearer the time | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but do chat to me about it closer to the time I can put you in touch with the right people. Im better used in implementation and delivery than "Hello Support desk " | |
| <DaveMorri1> ok, yeah was looking for someone to sort the server running the software out when they screw them up etc | |
| <JohnRobert> uml is clever | |
| <JohnRobert> shame the website docs are all out of dat | |
| <JohnRobert> e | |
| <popey> hello mad_goldfish | |
| <mad_goldfish> hi popey | |
| <JohnRobert> I wonder if it's possible to run a UML instance that can listen on a port (just like a normal program) without all this network faff | |
| <popey> there are apparently 8 different ways to setup networking in UML | |
| <JohnRobert> I can't figure out which is 'just run like a normal program, obviously you can't listen on any ports below 1024, but that's ok' | |
| <JohnRobert> perhaps that'd just require too much kernel patching or something | |
| <JohnRobert> it'd be much easier to 'just use' uml if that were the case | |
| <gord> fish are weird, with all their flappin about | |
| <popey> ooooo kay | |
| <Norf-ubu> g'day | |
| <gord> afternoon' | |
| <mad_goldfish> Unlike penguins, eh, not known to flap ;-) At least I'm more stable than the alternative | |
| <gord> it would be cool if there were a 9ft penguin I think | |
| <gord> thats the kind of thing that would deserve the title 'emperor' | |
| <Norf-ubu> brb - more updates from herd 5 | |
| <gord> slow day today | |
| <dsas> good afternoon folks | |
| <gord> good afternoon mr dsas | |
| <dsas> how are things? | |
| <gord> slow | |
| <Norf-ubu> mrdsas - any possibility of having a link to UKSkills on the UK wiki front page? | |
| <dsas> Norf-ubu: Sure, feel free to add it wherever you think is suitable. | |
| <dsas> Norf-ubu: It's a wiki, edit first, ask questions later ;) | |
| <Norf-ubu> riiiiiiiiiiiiight - <manic grin> | |
| <Norf-ubu> cheers for the heads up, i assumed the main pages would have been locked or needed "sudo" permissions... | |
| <dsas> nah, I don't think there are any pages on wiki.ubuntu.com that are locked at all. | |
| <gord> thats the great thing about wikis, you don't _need_ to lock pages, anythin happens just revert. get a persistant trolling nasty person, lock for an hour or so and ban :) | |
| <Norf-ubu> i resent being called a Troll <grin> | |
| <Norf-ubu> :P | |
| <gord> I could call you other nasty names if you would prefer? | |
| <Norf-ubu> only in private with the curtains shut :| | |
| <Norf-ubu> right - back to job hunting - <sleep> | |
| <gord> be vewy vewy qwiet | |
| <daviey> didn't wikipedia ask people to abuse 'bananas' page? | |
| <gord> I think the less people abusing banana's the better | |
| <popey> no, that was Stephen thingy.. | |
| <popey> some american comedian | |
| <popey> he also asked people to abuse the elephants page | |
| <popey> he picks on one page every so often and when his show airs that page gets locked pretty quick | |
| <gord> he sounds hilarious | |
| <popey> he is funny in places | |
| <Norf-ubu> colbert report ? | |
| <rece> hello ppl | |
| <rece> any1 home? | |
| <rece> ne1 suggest a good torrent? | |
| <DaveMorri1> torrent for what? | |
| <daviey> hmm - sounds dubious | |
| <daviey> rece, what do you want? | |
| <gord> http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent | |
| <gord> we arn't going to give you anything illegal rece :P | |
| <daviey> i might, depends how much he will offer me | |
| <DaveMorri1> I'm wondering if he means a program to download torrents | |
| <DaveMorri1> I'll give him some stuff which is illegal in the US | |
| <daviey> rece, your driving us CRAZY, we need to know wat it is you want. We need closure | |
| <Norf-ubu> :-s | |
| <DaveMorri1> points to exporting encrytpion and MP3 decoders | |
| <gord> oooooooh, Im gonna tell on DaveMorri1 ! | |
| <DaveMorri1> I wonder if they'll actually pull you up for taking a Ubuntu liveCD through customs | |
| <daviey> If they used the FOSS formula for working out software cost then you could have a hefty bill to pay | |
| <gord> ubuntu livecd has no patent encumbered software on it DaveMorri1 ;) | |
| <DaveMorri1> has encryption technologies on it though | |
| <gord> I thought that america had dropped the whole 'no exporting encryption' thing a few years back? | |
| <DaveMorri1> I may have missed it then | |
| <dsas> it has been dropped, you just have to inform some agency that you're shipping encryption technology or something, I think. | |
| <DaveMorri1> sounds a better way | |
| <dsas> The ubuntu disc is probably full of patent encumbered software. It's just not been identified and fought over yet. | |
| <dsas> (to be pedantic) | |
| <treb0r> this is #ubuntu-uk - there are on software patents in the UK :) | |
| <treb0r> no | |
| *** oOo is now known as GazzaK | |
| <dsas> treb0r: We still recognise patents filed in other countries as far as I know, through WIPO and WTO | |
| <treb0r> there was a government pronouncement on this last weekI'll see wht I can dig up, but I think that software patents are unenforceable in the UK. | |
| <gord> compleatly unenforcable :) | |
| * gord got an email from the pm about it! | |
| <treb0r> http://www.itweek.co.uk/vnunet/news/2184481/purely-software-patents | |
| <treb0r> :) | |
| <treb0r> gord: did you really? | |
| <gord> well no.. I signed upto a no software patent petition on the no. 10 website, got sent to everyone | |
| <treb0r> i see :). Good news tho! | |
| <gord> also the patents that linux may be infringing on are prolly unenforceable because of the ridiculous nature of American software patents, which is why that 'tell us the patents or shut up' style website has jumped up, if for example microsoft has patents we are infringing on why not enforce them? ms are just using them as as threat | |
| <treb0r> exactly. they rpolly own the patent on the double click too.. | |
| <gord> they do own a patent on using a mouse to manipulate on screen objects... | |
| <rece> sry , i was checking out a game i found here's the manual: http://tremulous.net/manual/ | |
| <DaveMorri1> tremulous looks good, played with it a bit at work | |
| <rece> right, i would like a bittorrent client to download other torrents, on xp i use bitlord but have no idea what to use on gnome | |
| <rece> tremulous looks like it was based on the old Quake 3 engine | |
| <DaveMorri1> I use azureus but last time I checked it didn't work too well from apt-get | |
| <gord> !bittorrent | |
| <ubot3> Factoid bittorrent not found | |
| <gord> stoopid bot | |
| <rece> lol | |
| <gord> ktorrent or azureus are the best around rece | |
| <gord> and tremulous is based on the quake 3 engine, quake 3 is open source | |
| <DaveMorri1> there is one installed by default I think | |
| <rece> i heard sum1 was doing a "gtorrent" | |
| <rece> what's the default one? | |
| <gord> Gnome bittorrent | |
| <rece> is it that bad? | |
| <gord> it works, does the job | |
| <dsas> gnome-btdownload is the default one. works fine for me. | |
| <rece> good job or "you'll get the torrent when i say so!" | |
| <rece> (then i gotta work out how 2 use da thing!! | |
| <rece> ) | |
| <gord> all the torrent programs will download at about the same speed, unless your isp does something called 'traffic shaping' in which case you will need ktorrent or azureus so you can encrypt the transfer so that your isp doesn't limit it | |
| <popey> yeah, i use gnome torrent | |
| <popey> didnt know azureus did that | |
| <DaveMorri1> popey: you can also use IP2 or Tor with azureus | |
| <popey> neat | |
| <rece> k, ta ppl, ne1 no any good light-weight games (rpg/shooter/action)? | |
| <gord> not much point in using tor or som't with azureus though, not unless your in somewhere like china anyway | |
| <DaveMorri1> or your very paronaid | |
| <popey> or doing illegal stuff | |
| * apokryphos loves KTorrent | |
| * gord loves pancakes | |
| <popey> \o/ pancakes | |
| <popey> what filling/coating gord ? | |
| * popey notes pancakes are just flat yorkshire puds :) | |
| <DaveMorri1> but fried instead of baked ;) | |
| <gord> filling? pfft, just slosh it in a pan, get some sugar and lemon from a comicaly lemon shaped container and cover the thing, eat deliciously | |
| <daviey> cheese ham and mushroom | |
| <popey> gord: er thats a filling :) | |
| <popey> DaveMorri1: yorkshire puds are cooked in fat | |
| <popey> which is pretty damn close to frying - albeit in an oven | |
| <DaveMorri1> yeah, but yokshires get about 10 mins in a very hot oven | |
| <DaveMorri1> but pancakes get about 4 mins in a very hot pan | |
| <gord> yorkshire puds are for sunday diner, pancakes are for once a year tea | |
| <popey> DaveMorri1: same stuff in them tho | |
| <popey> basically fried/roasted glue | |
| <popey> gord: do you only eat pancakes once a year, and only eat yorkshires on sunday ? | |
| <daviey> i wish i was gord | |
| <gord> indeed, puds on sunday because thats the way it works and pancakes once a year so that I can fit into my clothes | |
| <popey> heheh | |
| <gord> ahh I love mplayer, its not very good if you don't learn how it works inside out, but once you do its fantastic -_- | |
| <popey> yeah | |
| <popey> i am loving mplayer more now | |
| <popey> i removed totem-mozilla and install mozilla-mplayer and love it | |
| <gord> Im more into the post processing of video, just made a funky profile that re-sizes animation to HD size and applys a fun concoction of filters to get the sharpness and quality n stuff all nice -_- | |
| <gord> think Im gonna be watching far too much futurama soon | |
| <apokryphos> popey: what's good about it? | |
| <popey> it plays videos | |
| <popey> that totem doesnt | |
| <apokryphos> totem should use w32 codecs, which mplayer uses as well | |
| <gord> has better subtitle rendering also, handles muiti-channel audio much better as well. not very good for dvds though, has no support for dvd menus | |
| <popey> well, in my experience, the mplayer plugin for mozilla firefox plays stuff totem doesnt | |
| <apokryphos> never liked totem much though. Kaffeine! | |
| <popey> bleh, kde | |
| <gord> mplayer has native support for lots of stuff these days, wmv and such, doesn't need win32 codecs often. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/codecs-status.html | |
| * apokryphos pets ubot3 | |
| <apokryphos> doing very well :P | |
| <treb0r> popey: when I try to mark totem-mozilla for removal, it says it also needs to remove ubuntu-desktop - is this normal? | |
| <popey> yes | |
| <treb0r> so it won't break my install? | |
| <popey> no | |
| <treb0r> right then.. | |
| * treb0r holds breath | |
| <gord> ubuntu-desktop is just a 'meta package' meaning that it mealy lets package managers know what to install, once those things are installed its essentially throw-awayable | |
| <treb0r> so now I know :) | |
| * gord can't get the music from that sky ad out of his head | |
| * daviey just ate a whole terry's orange. Now i can't concentrate | |
| <Norf-ubu> the orangey goodness kicking in eh ? | |
| <gord> don't tap it, whack it! | |
| <DaveMorri1> I'm hot and can't concentrate | |
| <Norf-ubu> turn the porn off then :| | |
| <DaveMorri1> hmm, porn in an open plan office could go badly | |
| <gord> or, it could be the best thing ever! only time will tell! | |
| <gord> also, when you get fired, its not my fault | |
| <DaveMorri1> I'll have to ask my the policy is on pron | |
| <DaveMorri1> s/my/what | |
| <Norf-ubu> hmmm - there's an idea - campaign for p0rn to be open source | |
| <DaveMorri1> it be creative commons wouldn't it | |
| <Norf-ubu> actually yes... good call | |
| <gord> wouldn't that involve the idea that anyone can request anything that is in said product? y'know... like actors? | |
| <Norf-ubu> gord, i like where you're going with this... but alas it aint gonna happen | |
| <DaveMorri1> CC would work | |
| <gord> CC isn't always equal to open source, as evident in my recent 'need to find truely free photos to use in a screencast' search, so many people say that you can't change the content or some such | |
| <cinex> hi | |
| <gord> hello | |
| <DaveMorri1> oh, I thought you where allowed to change the content | |
| <DaveMorri1> hi ubot3 | |
| <DaveMorri1> *thought I'd be nice before the bots kill us all | |
| <togster> Afternoon all | |
| <daviey> Did anybody go to: "Microsoft Open Source perspective" http://ossg.bcs.org/2007/03/05/ | |
| *** Sionide is now known as sre | |
| *** sre is now known as Sionide | |
| <AndrewB> http://www.ubuntu-uk.org/ is down? | |
| <apokryphos> up, but the content must've been moved | |
| <popey> er | |
| <popey> no | |
| <popey> someone has buggered up the dns | |
| <apokryphos> :o | |
| * popey pings X3N | |
| <popey> i host it and I assure you it is still there, and it doesn't run on " Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) mod_fastcgi/2.4.2 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Server at www.ubuntu-uk.org Port 80" | |
| <popey> so therefore the dns record is "wrong" | |
| <popey> ahhh | |
| <popey> try http://ubuntu-uk.org/ | |
| <popey> without the www | |
| <apokryphos> don't have a working symlink? | |
| <popey> symlink? | |
| <popey> http://planet.ubuntu-uk.org/ also works fine | |
| <apokryphos> actually, I have no idea if apache handles it like that anymore | |
| <popey> its not an apache problem | |
| <popey> its a dns problem | |
| <popey> root@bishop:/var/www/ubuntu-uk.org# dig +short ubuntu-uk.org | |
| <popey> 212.13.194.80 | |
| <popey> root@bishop:/var/www/ubuntu-uk.org# dig +short www.ubuntu-uk.org | |
| <popey> 213.95.21.43 | |
| <apokryphos> hmm, so I see | |
| <popey> X3N can sort this I am sure :) | |
| * popey mails X3N | |
| <daviey> What are baby squirrels called? | |
| <dotwaffle> Squirrelettes. | |
| <dotwaffle> Don't take that as Canonical ;) | |
| <daviey> ahh, it's kittens. I didn't know that | |
| <dotwaffle> I *may* have just made that up. | |
| <daviey> dotwaffle, it's a load of dotwaffle | |
| <dotwaffle> indeed | |
| <DaveMorri1> Hi, Dave | |
| <DaveMorri1> I'm afraid that our security policy does not permit the arbitrary | |
| <DaveMorri1> opening of secure tunnels onto staff networks, save for exceptional | |
| <DaveMorri1> circumstances, and that we will therefore have to decline your request. | |
| <DaveMorri1> We are investigating mechanisms to provide forms of remote access to all | |
| <DaveMorri1> staff but, as I'm sure you can understand, we are not in a position to | |
| <DaveMorri1> grant everyone their own individual firewall rule. | |
| <DaveMorri1> looks like I'll have to carry on by passing the FW | |
| <jamesbrose> is anyone else having problems getting into the php channel? (eg. redirected to overflow) | |
| * LoudMouthMan sniggers | |
| <LoudMouthMan> A Clients current "preffered" support people have not kepy any documentation for the client. so they are calling me to help them access the clients site. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> the client agreed that I wouldbe invoicing them ! HA! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> do we have a pastebin here I have got to show you how this "IT" support guy thinks he can access the client PC via a tunnel . its tooooo funny ! | |
| <dsas> LoudMouthMan: http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/ | |
| <LoudMouthMan> http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/1 | |
| <LoudMouthMan> that should be the link ... coor am I the first ? | |
| <apokryphos> the very first ;) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so okay this guy wanted to connect via vnc or rdc to the client XP pc. I explained he could jut use putty to connect to the server and tunnel in from there. Okay he says now im in how do I hamachi VPN ?as you can see he was trying to connect ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> he works for a "microsoft certfied" company ! | |
| * Norf-ubu loves hamachi | |
| <jamesbrose> yay i'm no 3! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> its amazing how many "windows" support guys I know whom because everything is GUI have never learnt about what can be done with the command line , console, ssh and TCP. | |
| <willskills> they are generally referred to as idiots :) | |
| <chaddy> you do meet the occasional windows expert who knows their way round *nix, too though | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yeah though were not even in unix territory here . this is just network 101 I would hope. | |
| *** LoudMouthMan changes topic to " Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://www.ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is logged | Ubuntu FAQ: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Gallery/Members add your picture | Next UKTeam Meeting is in #ubuntu-uk on 20th March at 21:00 | NEW http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/" | |
| <daviey> popey, did the ubuntu-nl guys get back to you, about their pastebin src? | |
| * apokryphos doesn't like the -nl pastebin much | |
| <apokryphos> it used to have so many nice features but now.. :/ | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Unless im wrong there does not appear to be any equivalent to tcp tunneling and forwarding in a windows to windows client . WOW ! i would have thought Vista would have this fixed by now and yet not . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> you would think MS would have used the last 5 years to look at some of the invaluable support and admin tools in the unix toolbox and included them into windows. | |
| <popey> daviey: yes, i have the code for the ubuntu-nl site | |
| <popey> however I am unlikely to install it anytime in the next couple of weeks | |
| <popey> we have been offered a full virtual server to host the website off of - running ubuntu of course | |
| <popey> currently its on my virtual server which runs debian - not a big deal - i will migrate to ubuntu shortly, but it would be nice for ubuntu-uk to have its own virtual server rather than piggy back off the hosting of one member | |
| <popey> if that makes sense | |
| <LoudMouthMan> popey . whose making the offer ? | |
| <popey> grifferz | |
| <LoudMouthMan> cool. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> whats he asking / requiring for this then . ive not seen him hang out on ubuntu much . | |
| <popey> nothing | |
| <popey> he is a kubuntu user | |
| <popey> he offered out of the blue | |
| <popey> i didnt ask | |
| <LoudMouthMan> excellent . could you keep a mirrored copy as well just on the in case ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> then weve got two points of failure instead of one ? | |
| <popey> yeah, sure | |
| <LoudMouthMan> great thanks . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> tonight im having a PPPd meal . | |
| <popey> ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> thats Peas, Pork and Potato dinner | |
| <LoudMouthMan> and im still working on the ingredients to make a Ubuntu Pizza. | |
| <Bagnaj97> I just installed Feisty on my laptop, codec installation is shiny | |
| <popey> isnt it Bagnaj97 | |
| <popey> :) | |
| * LoudMouthMan has been asked to install Ubunutu as a dual boot option on latest clients laptop . Im seriously considering Fiesty . the Client is versed in the issues he just wants to pay to have it installed dual boot. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> right dinner . | |
| <Bagnaj97> Can the auto codec thingy deal with libdvdcss and w32codecs? They aren't in the repos... | |
| <popey> no Bagnaj97 | |
| <popey> it uses gstreamer | |
| <popey> so whatever gst supports works | |
| <Bagnaj97> Ah, ok | |
| <popey> its a good start tho :) | |
| <Bagnaj97> Aye | |
| <popey> mp3s work | |
| <popey> which is #1 issue for many people | |
| <Bagnaj97> and evil wmvs | |
| <popey> hehe | |
| <popey> yeah | |
| <popey> right tea time | |
| * X3N pings popey | |
| *** chaddy_ is now known as chaddy | |
| * popey pongs X3N | |
| <cinex> I'm bored | |
| <Norf-ubu> welcome to my world | |
| <cinex> the internet has become seemingly more broing. all there is to do is read news type websites. | |
| <cinex> boring* | |
| <Norf-ubu> try stumble upon - google it | |
| <cinex> blogs are just news to | |
| <Norf-ubu> keeps me amused for minutes | |
| <cinex> nice | |
| <gord> maybe you need to be more involved with the internet cinex | |
| <cinex> this is probably true. | |
| <cinex> I was gonna build a custom kernel for soemthing to do. I'm still waiting for my book to arrive though. | |
| <willskills> guys | |
| <cinex> what | |
| <willskills> do any of you game on your boxes? | |
| <willskills> http://pastebin.com/895512 | |
| <willskills> I play WoW | |
| <willskills> and they released a patch today | |
| <popey> i am playing ET right now :) | |
| <willskills> and I get that when I run it now | |
| <willskills> ;[ | |
| <popey> I also play DEFCON | |
| <cinex> and I dont wanan go all around encrypting my laptop untilli can make my own kernel *sigh* its no wonder I'm bored | |
| <popey> hehe cinex | |
| <fiddybux> hi room | |
| <fiddybux> wonder if anyone can advise on this 'ACPI: Fatal Opcode Error' I'm getting on my IBM T22 laptop? | |
| * cinex cant | |
| <fiddybux> ok...nor can ubuntu forums | |
| <cinex> how about googel ? | |
| <cinex> google | |
| <fiddybux> nope | |
| <fiddybux> even posted on launchpad and the support request has been open for ages | |
| <gord> does it effect you in any way fiddybux? | |
| <cinex> is acpi vital ? | |
| <gord> power management cinex | |
| <cinex> k | |
| <fiddybux> well...it doesn't affect operation | |
| <cinex> now I remeber disableing it in fedora core | |
| <gord> n some config and device recognision if I remeber | |
| <fiddybux> except that ubuntu occassionaly logs me out for no reason | |
| <fiddybux> if I use APM instead my linux box won't shut down | |
| <fiddybux> so stuck with ACPI as this is the only thing that shuts my laptop down properly | |
| <cinex> maybe you need an alternate driver for your laptop. | |
| <fiddybux> where might I find that? | |
| <fiddybux> google for T22 ACPI driver? | |
| <cinex> I suppose | |
| <cinex> or you could find out exactly what it is | |
| <cinex> the make/model of th epiece of hardwear that wont work | |
| <fiddybux> that's proving hard | |
| <cinex> if it even involves hardwear | |
| <fiddybux> all i know is that on boot up I get an error ACPI [983487298432]: Fatal Opcode Error | |
| <fiddybux> the numbers are random that I just put in | |
| <cinex> k | |
| <fiddybux> also it is widely know that edgy and dapper have never worked properly with T22's | |
| <fiddybux> no hibernate etc | |
| <cinex> well you know, there are other linux's | |
| <gord> without the numbers it fairly hard to diagnose, also I would guess that the 'logging out' you are talking about is actually the Xserver crashing for various reasons | |
| <fiddybux> it's just one of those niggling things which i would like to solve | |
| <fiddybux> ok....x server crashes...getcha | |
| <cinex> found somethign | |
| <cinex> if the page ever loads | |
| <fiddybux> hehe | |
| <fiddybux> xserver crashes for no reason sometimes | |
| *** chaddy_ is now known as chaddy | |
| <fiddybux> with ubuntu doing nothing...just logged in | |
| <cinex> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=302453 | |
| <cinex> dont think its any good though. | |
| <fiddybux> BTW, there is 'no other' distro than ubuntu in my eyes | |
| <fiddybux> yep...thats my thread! | |
| <cinex> does the live cd fail as well ? | |
| <fiddybux> live CD never worked on my laptop...I had to use alternate install | |
| <cinex> i had to use kubuntu (it forze on boot otherwise) | |
| <cinex> froze | |
| <fiddybux> mine froze too....hence alternatre CD | |
| <cinex> lol I had ran out of cds and found a kubuntu lying around | |
| <fiddybux> i find KDE really clumsy and a bit of a mess really | |
| <fiddybux> gnome rules | |
| <popey> ditto | |
| <cinex> gnome is too set in its visual layout | |
| <fiddybux> agreed....but it just works...and can be customised quite a bit | |
| <cinex> ther eis a bug | |
| <fiddybux> aren't there always!? | |
| <cinex> im reading a post about acpi opcode errors and they talk of a bug | |
| <cinex> I mean if its no affecting operations... | |
| <fiddybux> vista, xp, win2k, gnome, kde, xfce etc | |
| <fiddybux> go on cinex | |
| <cinex> go on about the bug? I dont know if its an outdated post or not. | |
| <fiddybux> go on anyway...or send link | |
| <cinex> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=302453 | |
| <cinex> the first link I sent you has the link at the bottom | |
| <fiddybux> me again | |
| <fiddybux> !! | |
| <fiddybux> lol | |
| <fiddybux> no solution | |
| <fiddybux> i mean...no working solution for me | |
| <cinex> that also links to something about a kernel bug | |
| <fiddybux> one of them is my support request | |
| <fiddybux> stating this | |
| <fiddybux> [009087763:977683] ACPI: Fatal Opcode Error. | |
| <cinex> :O | |
| <fiddybux> i guess though if it is a bug that would be why I gave up before | |
| <cinex> this is bad | |
| <cinex> I just found your post> | |
| <cinex> ? | |
| <fiddybux> yeah | |
| <fiddybux> i'm everywhere! | |
| <fiddybux> lol | |
| <cinex> lol | |
| <cinex> looks like your fucked too. | |
| <fiddybux> can't say I haven't tried | |
| <cinex> excuse my french | |
| <fiddybux> not at all! | |
| <fiddybux> fucker! | |
| <fiddybux> hehe | |
| <fiddybux> so what's bothering you on ubuntu cinex | |
| <fiddybux> or kubuntu | |
| <gord> !language | fiddybux | |
| <ubot3> fiddybux: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. | |
| <fiddybux> just a joke between friends gord and ubot3 | |
| <fiddybux> no harm intended | |
| <cinex> my fault | |
| <fiddybux> so you got any niggling issues cinex? | |
| <cinex> none what so ever. I installed kubuntu on my laptop because I was told it would have good support for the wireless card on it (bcm43xx). on fedora the card would lock up the comp when it was installed. that doesnt happen. | |
| <cinex> when I get it near a wireless connection I will see if it can connect/work properly | |
| <cinex> have to take it to my girlfriends for that. | |
| <fiddybux> let me guess....linksys wpc54g? | |
| <cinex> no. msi card with a bcm4303 chip | |
| <cinex> cant rremeber the msi model number | |
| <fiddybux> well still broadcom | |
| <cinex> yeah, broadcom | |
| <fiddybux> lemme send you a link...helped me immensely | |
| <Bagnaj97> Anyone else having problems updating x11-common on Feisty? | |
| <cinex> not me | |
| <gord> I updated this morning and that went swimmingly Bagnaj97 | |
| <Bagnaj97> It's coming up with a configuration dialogue asking me to enter a nice value between -20 and 19 | |
| <fiddybux> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834 | |
| <fiddybux> that should hopefully sort it out for you...helped me loads | |
| <cinex> thanks man | |
| <gord> lots of people are having that problem Bagnaj97 | |
| <fiddybux> this was edgy based....but should work in feisty too I hope | |
| <gord> y'know what would be more useful? if I could actually remeber the answer >_< som't todo with apt | |
| <cinex> I bookmarked it fiddybux | |
| <fiddybux> np | |
| <fiddybux> the user who started that wieman01...he know 'LOADS' about wireless on ubuntu | |
| <fiddybux> ask wieman01 is my motto | |
| <fiddybux> lol | |
| <fiddybux> so what's feisty like guys | |
| <popey> i like it | |
| <popey> running on my desktop and laptop | |
| <fiddybux> what are the benfits to you guys so far? | |
| <gord> three thumbs up from me, lots of nicitys but still beta-ish at the mo :) | |
| <fiddybux> speed? apps? | |
| * cinex doesnt know which he is runnign | |
| <fiddybux> yeah...i'm too scared to do it yet | |
| <fiddybux> :) | |
| <Bagnaj97> Feisty is shiny so far, only problem is this update | |
| <cinex> how do you tell what your running (in terms of the name) | |
| <gord> Bagnaj97, try in #ubuntu+1 | |
| <fiddybux> yeah...i wondered that | |
| <fiddybux> in XP you just right click on my computer | |
| <Bagnaj97> Apparently the prob is fixed, but I'm using the mirrorservice mirror so it prob hasnt updated yet | |
| <cinex> xp makes me mad | |
| <cinex> no fun in it whatso ever | |
| <fiddybux> me too...especially since authenticaton stuff | |
| <fiddybux> you can't even download media player now without authentication | |
| <fiddybux> tssk | |
| <cinex> I never used it anyway. | |
| <cinex> I used to download a clone from videohelp.net | |
| <cinex> media player classic clone | |
| <fiddybux> nor me...but i use microsoft.com to test download speeds with my ISP...they insist on it! | |
| <fiddybux> yep i use classic | |
| <gord> lsb_release -a <-- will show you what version you are running | |
| <cinex> im on edgy | |
| <fiddybux> note to ubuntu staff > build that into a menu item! | |
| <fiddybux> yay...me too | |
| <cinex> is that the new one > | |
| <cinex> ? | |
| <popey> Bagnaj97: yes, i had the problem with x11-common earlier | |
| <fiddybux> it is the current stable version | |
| <fiddybux> feisty in the new beta version | |
| <fiddybux> due out in early april I think | |
| <cinex> yup | |
| <cinex> its the latest version though | |
| <popey> feisty is the development version | |
| <fiddybux> 07/04 i think | |
| <Bagnaj97> I think it's due out 19th April | |
| <gord> day after me b'day :( | |
| <fiddybux> 2nd birthday! | |
| <Bagnaj97> I think we need to organise a release party | |
| <jayteeuk> Evening all. | |
| <Bagnaj97> Evening | |
| <gord> for me? | |
| <fiddybux> well...i gotta go...cheers guys | |
| <Bagnaj97> For feisty | |
| <jayteeuk> When are you being released gord? | |
| <Bagnaj97> and you of course | |
| <gord> depends when they decide I can survive in the wild | |
| * tsmithe organises a release party for gord | |
| <jayteeuk> Are you safe? | |
| <cinex> ar eyou jail gord? | |
| <cinex> are you in jail gord*** | |
| <gord> im a metaphysical entity devoid of matter, thought or feeling, your puny humanoid bars can't hold me! | |
| <tsmithe> it's gaol damnit! | |
| <gord> unless you have wooden puppet guards, those are scary | |
| <Bagnaj97> we do have wooden puppet guards | |
| <tsmithe> they are haunted, and creaky, and rotting | |
| <tsmithe> with evil grins | |
| <tsmithe> and big, moon-like eyes | |
| <tsmithe> and small pupils | |
| <tsmithe> or big pupils | |
| <tsmithe> (depends who you ask) | |
| <gord> either just makes them sound cute | |
| <tsmithe> well, not either | |
| <tsmithe> both | |
| <Bagnaj97> not when you realise they are red pupils | |
| <cinex> MPs vote for wholly elected Lords :'( | |
| <cinex> so now, next week, if the Lords vote for the opposite they will be accused of selfless self preservation and slammed as a liabillity. | |
| <tsmithe> hum | |
| <tsmithe> i like having a non-democratic Lords :S | |
| <cinex> saves you from the thicko electorate lol | |
| <tsmithe> yup | |
| <Bagnaj97> Evening Seeker` | |
| <Seeker`> evening | |
| <DaveMorris> how do you see who an ip is registered to etc | |
| <cinex> hi Seeker` | |
| <cinex> DaveMorris: supena the ISP | |
| <jayteeuk> DaveMorris: whois | |
| <DaveMorris> cheers, got people playing my online game, who say they are all at school together, hence the same IP's | |
| <DaveMorris> just need to check | |
| <cinex> i doubt you will find out if the ip belongs to a school. | |
| <cinex> not unless they host their own website | |
| <DaveMorris> no you can | |
| <cinex> oh | |
| <gord> they play from the school computers cinex ;) | |
| <DaveMorris> OrgName: Mohawk College of Applied Arts and Technology | |
| <cinex> oh right | |
| <cinex> hmm | |
| <jayteeuk> Night all, I'll be back tomorrow -- need to reboot to run a linuxfirmwarekit test on my laptop to support Bug 66900. | |
| <ubot3> Malone bug 66900 in linux-source-2.6.20 "APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66900 |