<ajmitch> not bad
<ajmitch> not the sort of job I'm likely to get at the moment :)
<Plug> I love that Google have a job cart
<Plug> "I'll checkout with these three, thankyou"
<ajmitch> heh
<ajmitch> back later, off for lunch
<Shiiny> thanks karora
* ajmitch returns
<ajmitch> I guess I didn't miss much
<mattb> indeed
<mattb> the rest of us went to lunch too
<Shiiny> lunch - that's a great idea
<Shiiny> oh dear -- 3pm already
<dudanogueira> here im close to sleep
<dudanogueira> here is 22:56 PM :P
<Uber-nerd> anyone from chch on?
<Plug> probably not, from a quick look around
<ajmitch> I doubt it
<Uber-nerd> well, that sucks :( ... anyway, there was a computing society bbq last night. i wore my ubuntu t-shirt and one of the recruitment guys noticed and gave me a business card
<Uber-nerd> :D
<ajmitch> interesting
<Plug> cool
<Plug> I don't have an Ubuntu t-shirt
<Plug> I could steal one i guess ;)
<ajmitch> where'd you pick up an ubuntu shirt from?
<Plug> I have been sent three + some stickers & flyers for the 'art competition prize'
<Plug> which we should repurpose
<Uber-nerd> www.ubuntu.com - they have a link to the shop (cafepress)... it wasn't too expensive and the shipping time was great :)
<ajmitch> ah right
<ajmitch> Plug: I'll take one ;)
<Uber-nerd> ok... anyone know anything about kdevelop3?
<Plug> it has an unimaginative name
<Uber-nerd> errr... regarding installing it etc?
<ajmitch> just install the package?
<ajmitch> its in universe
<Uber-nerd> ... probably. i'm running ubuntu 6.06 - the guy at the bbq said he could get me a kubuntu disk... but i can get kdevelop with ubuntu, it'll just take ages to get the dependencies... am i right?
<ajmitch> yes, all the packages are shared in the repositories
* ajmitch wonders why the nz herald site is so broken today
<Uber-nerd> ahhh, i was wondering why it wouldn't load :(
<jmiller565> G'day
<ajmitch> hi
<Uber-nerd> hi
<jmiller565> everyone from good ol' NZ here?
<ajmitch> more or less
<jmiller565> sweet!!!
<Uber-nerd> yep, i'm in chch =)
<jmiller565> me too
* karora is from Rotorua, living in Porirua...
<Uber-nerd> lucky me, i went to the computing society bbq at the ilam gardens yesterday :D
<jmiller565> I live in Christchurch, in Avonhead
<jmiller565> nice Uber-nerd
<Uber-nerd> holyshit! so do i
<Uber-nerd> withells road
<jmiller565> Beatrice Place
<Uber-nerd> hahaha... i'll look that up :D
<ajmitch> small world, who would have guessed
* ajmitch is in dunedin, for now
<jmiller565> off avonhead rd. Woah this is freaky LOL
<Uber-nerd> lol, i'll have to come over and say hi some time
<jmiller565> maybe lol
<Uber-nerd> i'm a linux noob
<jmiller565> I've just been using Ubuntu for 5 months now. It's great stuff.BTW I'm probably the only 15 year old in NZ that uses Linux LOL
<Plug> jmiller565: not by any stretch
<Uber-nerd> not quite, i'm 16 :D
<jmiller565> sweet OMG SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!
<Uber-nerd> i used to go to riccarton high
* ajmitch knows 15-year-olds (and younger) that are ubuntu developers
<Uber-nerd> going on an i.t. course now though
<jmiller565> where do you go now?
<Uber-nerd> electec... in sydnam
<jmiller565> oh ok lol i go to Burnside High
* ajmitch feels like an old fart
<Uber-nerd> into all the anti-telecom and anti-microsoft stuff?
<Plug> Uber-nerd: please don't be too anti in here
<Plug> we're all positive and hippy and stuf
<ajmitch> all about the love
<Plug> more about not perpetuating the stereotypes
<jmiller565> I just don't like telecom's service right now, it's a bit shoddy. sadly i use telecom and I've asked my dad to change ISP but he won't
<Uber-nerd> well i'm not really anti-ms or whatever, but yes i think they suck. and no i won't degrade this channels intelligence ;)
<ajmitch> being anti-everything turns away so many people
<Uber-nerd> yup, look at the trademe forums
<jmiller565> isn't that like being emo?
<Uber-nerd> um... no.
<jmiller565> depression
<jmiller565> that's it lol
<jmiller565> so what kind of IT course are u doing Uber-nerd?
<Uber-nerd> its the certificate in computer systems engineering, basic technician stuff. got a really thick book for it. it leads onto CompTIA A+ and A+networking.
<jmiller565> that's pretty cool.
<Uber-nerd> plus other internationally recognized stuff
<jmiller565> Awesome!!!
<Uber-nerd> BUT i won't go too deep, i can get a job without qualifications thanks to opensource
<Plug> If you're good
<Plug> you can't fake good
<jmiller565> :-)
<ajmitch> getting experience is also critical
<Uber-nerd> there was a computing society bbq at the ilam gardens last night and i was wearing my ubuntu t-shirt, some recruitment guy noticed and handed me his business card. he works for www.egressive.com
<jmiller565> so anyway, what Ubuntu are you guys using? I'm using Kubuntu
<Plug> Was he Dave Lane?
<Uber-nerd> i'm using ubuntu dapper
<Uber-nerd> yes he was dave lane
* ajmitch uses feisty
* Plug doesn't use Ubuntu as much as he should to maintain packages on it ;)
<jmiller565> Kubuntu Edgy that's what i use
<jmiller565> Nice Plug LOL
<jmiller565> Is there any big differences between dapper and edgy?
<ajmitch> a few, mostly newer software
* ajmitch can't recall what new features there may have been, it's been awhile
<jmiller565> true. I can't wait until Feisty comes out on the 19th of April, a day b4 my birthday LOL!!!!
* ajmitch will finally be able to rest
<jmiller565> lol must be hard work eh?
<ajmitch> moderately
<jmiller565> I hope I can do something like that when I get to grips with Ubuntu and learn some coding language :)
<jmiller565> brb i'm going to check the other irc channels
<ajmitch> only a few short weeks until feisty release, so much to do until then
<Uber-nerd> hello? jmiller are you alive? i've got a map for you showing the distance between our houses from wises.co.nz... its scary!
<jmiller565> yup i'm back
<Uber-nerd> trying to send... is it working?
<jmiller565> don't think so
<Uber-nerd> look at the bottom right... it should have "freenode" "ubuntu-nz" and "uber-nerd"
<Uber-nerd> maybe contact me via gaim?
<Uber-nerd> uber-nerd845@hotmail.com - send through that
<jmiller565> ok :)
<ajmitch> liveliest it's been for awhile
<ajmitch> wonderful, I can write in & get stickers
<Plug> You can
<Plug> I might even send you some for free cos you put in too much effort
<ajmitch> heh
<jack> hey peeps
<jack> looking for a bit of help with lvm
<jack> tried the #ubuntu channel but too much traffic...
<Plug> LVM you say
<jack> yeah
<Plug> what's the question?
<jack> I had a dapper install with root on lvm
<jack> have upgraded to edgy via recommended method
<jack> but not rebooted
<Plug> Was there a separate /boot ?
<jack> yeaj
<jack> yea
<jack> not lvm
<Plug> cool - grub can't boot off LVM, and LILO's support is dodgy at best
<jack> i remeber havng isseus with hoary-> dapoper
<jack> as i understand it i have to get lvm in the initrd
<jack> but not sure how to do that.
<Plug> that wont be a problem
<jack> it was all working with dapper
<jack> but like is said i remeber issues after upgrade to dapper
<Plug> yep, it continues to work with edgy
<jack> ok so I shouldn't have to do anything manual?
<Plug> nope.
<jack> the upgrade will have made sure lvm is in initrd?
<jack> how do I check?
<Plug> You can mount it and look, its a cramfs or some such
<Plug> is this a server?
<jack> nope just desktop
<Plug> I cant guarantee you the desktop kernel supports LVM, but I'm 98% sure it will
<jack> probbaly not the best to have root on lvm I know but don't want to to complete reinstall
<Plug> root on LVM is fine
<jack> i ended up having to do a reinstall with dapper
<jack> was able to pick up my existing lv's though
<jack> so didn't end up loosing anything
<jack> just didn't want to go through the pain again...
<jack> well I guess i'll just reboot then and see if it works..?
<jack> i can see scripts for initrd lvm under /usr/share/initramfs-tools but nothing is under /etc/initramfs/
<jack> i thought it grabbed the scripts from etc
<Plug> hmmm
<Plug> the initrd (or initramfs on edgy I believe) is generated when you install a kernel
<Plug> check /etc/mkinit*.conf
<Plug> it will have something like MODULES=all or MODULES=most
<jack> modules most
<Plug> try it .if all else fails you can reboot to your dapper kernel.
<jack> so that will still work with everything else edgy
<Plug> yep
<jack> hmm I'll get me a livecd too just incase I have to do some fixing
<jack> thanks for your help
<Plug> np
<jack> It worked Plug!

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