<Vorian> Hello everyone :)

<boredandblogging> hello

<Vorian> hey boredandblogging!

<Vorian> how goes it?

<boredandblogging> how's it going?

<Vorian> haha

<Vorian> good, just got home from work

<boredandblogging> cool, I like working from home :-)

<Vorian> pfft!

<Vorian> no time to relax

<Vorian> I love my drive home

<boredandblogging> too much sitting in traffic for me

<Vorian> haha

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<JanC> heh, my work is 15 min walking or 5 min driving from my home :)

<boredandblogging> lucky

<boredandblogging> 30 miles for me

<JanC> but it very often involves driving around, so I get my share in traffic jams :)

<JanC> actually, it sometimes happens that I have to wait 5 times a day for an opened bridge

<boredandblogging> nice

<JanC> that's the downside for Bruges being called the "Venice of the North" :)

<JanC> anyway, Bruges is rather small, so there are no major traffic jams like in Antwerp or Brussels or any large city in the world

<boredandblogging> i would gladly move closer to work, but its really expensive around there, plus my wife's commute would get long...so I'm the one who has to commute ;-)

<JanC> I don't care to drive long distances, as long as I'm paid for driving (or not driving, when in a traffic jam)

<JanC> :-P

<JanC> and there is no public transport to your workplace either?

<JanC> IMNSHO companies are stupid, they should move to where their employees live, not the other way around

<boredandblogging> i live in Atlanta, public transportation is horrible, the city is so spread out

<boredandblogging> my office is actually in the suburbs, I just happen to live on the other side of the city

<Vorian> ooo, back to driving ;-)

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<Soltek> hi .)

<boredandblogging> jono:ping

<yann2> Your Score: 500

<yann2> Required Passing Score: 500

<yann2> Status: Pass

<yann2> muahahahahahahahhahaa

<yann2> \o/

<yann2> got the ubuntu certification \o/

<etank> yann2: congrats

<yann2> thank you... i realy thought i missed this one

<yann2> 101 and 102 are fine, too :)

<yann2> boredandblogging > got your results?

<Vorian> yann2, where's the exam?

<yann2> we passed it in geneva, after the review of the ubuntu course material

<Vorian> congrats!

<yann2> hope mark van der bor passed too :)

<boredandblogging> where is the test?

<yann2> just got the results per mail

<yann2> btw boredandblogging , why did you change your nick? it's quite confusing :p

<boredandblogging> think you have me confused with someone else...what was my other nick?

<jono> boredandblogging: pong!

<boredandblogging> hi jono

<yann2> boredandblogging > ok i thought you were markvanderboor -_-

<boredandblogging> question for you

<boredandblogging> yama, nope, thats not me

<boredandblogging> yann2

<yann2> :]

<Vorian> lol

<jono> boredandblogging: shoot

<boredandblogging> jono, some folks from the kentucky, new york, and georgia (me) locos were having a discussion about domain names

<jono> right

<boredandblogging> particularly if we could get our own like ubuntu-georgia.com

<boredandblogging> since we can't get georgia.ubuntu-us.org

<boredandblogging> since we aren't approved

<boredandblogging> the domains are going to be used for LoCo business

<boredandblogging> and there seem to rumors about trademark issues

<boredandblogging> and we would be willing to give up the domains to canonical if they wanted to host it at any point

<boredandblogging> gladly

<boredandblogging> so we wanted to know if there were any issues with us getting ubuntu-<state>.com domains if we weren't approved to get <state>.ubuntu-us.org domains

<etank> boredandblogging: was there any resolution on this last night?

<boredandblogging> basically, "ask jono" ;-)

<yann2> well, once you get approved, you may continue to use ubutnu-state.com? i think having ubuntu-us subdomains is not bad :)

<boredandblogging> yann2, its a good point, if we could use something like ubuntu-georgia.com, would moving to georgia.ubuntu-us.org be a good thing?

<boredandblogging> after we get approved

<etank> yann2: the state.ubuntu-us.org is what we are trying to get

<Vorian> The issue is about canonical hosting and trademarks for self hosted sites

<boredandblogging> right vorian

<Vorian> Canonical will only host approved teams now

<yann2> etank > yeah, but i think f they start using another domain name as long as they re not approved, they won't be willing to make the move later :)

<Vorian> and the US teams are using <state>.ubuntu-us.org

<yann2> you may be hosted somewhere else, and get the domain name?

<Vorian> boredandblogging, you just need to get an OK from trademarks@ubuntu.com

<yann2> as long as you're not approved)

<Vorian> right on yann2

<boredandblogging> i've emailed them already

<boredandblogging> and etank has tried before with no luck

<Vorian> btw yann2, I nominate elkbuntu for ops on this channel ;-)

<yann2> #ubuntu-locoteams? Isn't he already?

* elkbuntu hears her name

<Vorian> yann2, no she's not

<yann2> she ^^ :p

<Vorian> hi elkbuntu :)

<Vorian> :)

* elkbuntu tickles yann2

<yann2> I think i may delegate the ownership of this channel to jono... :)

<Vorian> lol

<yann2> ... once i find out how to do that =)

<jono> sorry back

<jono> was on the phone

<Vorian> /ch access #ubuntu-locoteams add elkbuntu 10

<jono> boredandblogging: we don't want ubuntu-<state>.org as it involved waaaaaaay too many domain names

<Vorian> yann2, ^

<jono> hence the subdomain thing

<yann2> jono > you're fine with taking over this channel?

<Vorian> oops

<elkbuntu> jono, i think there needs to be a loco resources spec discussed at UDS-Seville

<jono> yann2: isnt there an irc team to have ownershup?

<jono> elkbuntu: agreed

<elkbuntu> jono, as well as a loco definition spec

<yann2> jono > i've _no_ idea of the current IRC Process at ubuntu :)

<elkbuntu> og!

<jono> yann2: ok, hold fire and let me check into it

<OgMaciel> elkbuntu: :)

<yann2> jono > i gave you the password once :)

<jono> yann2: right

<boredandblogging> jono: so we are saying that all LoCo related sites has to go through canonical hosting?

<yann2> boredandblogging > i don't think he is *g*

<jono> one sec phone again

<jono> dammit

<Vorian> lol

<yann2> boredandblogging > but you've already have some hosting, right?

* elkbuntu thinks mr bacon needs to invest in a phone headset :Þ

<boredandblogging> yann2, self hosted for the Georgia LoCo? no, I was just thinking about getting ubuntu-georgia.org or something

<etank> yann2: the Kentucky team is self hosted as well at ubuntu-kentucky.org

<boredandblogging> yann2, but i believe kentucky and new york have bought some domains already

<yann2> because they're not approved?

<yann2> that's silly

<etank> yes

<boredandblogging> right and can't get state.ubuntu-us.org

<etank> silly to get the domain?

<yann2> they should be able to use state.ubuntu-us.org even if they're not approved

<etank> Amen

<yann2> ubuntu-us can't ask them to make the move some monthes later

<yann2> we should not look at non approved locoteams as some kind of "bad guys" :/

<Vorian> yann2, its not about them being bad guys

<elkbuntu> ok, just reorganised LoCoResources wiki page to bunch the resource issues together and hint for a spec at UDS

<Vorian> elkbuntu, do you think a website is an essential resource?

<elkbuntu> Vorian, in this day and age? most definately

<Vorian> :)

<bordy> vorian: So, I've read all the info I could find (trust me... its too much, I'm sure you've seen it) but could you better describe what it takes to get approved by any chance?

<Vorian> bordy, it really is not do a.b.c.d and get approved process

<elkbuntu> bordy, it's sort of the same process as membership. prove a level of stability and a sustained effort

<bordy> Ah ok

<bordy> makes sense

<OgMaciel> how is everything elkbuntu? long time don't talk

<Vorian> bordy, as an english speaking team, focus on advocacy.

<elkbuntu> OgMaciel, things are good. busy and tiring, but good. yourself?

<OgMaciel> elkbuntu: busy as never before in my life... hehehe but trying to keep up ;)

<elkbuntu> OgMaciel, :) hows the prospective family addition progressing?

<elkbuntu> my cousin just had her second baby on monday. a whopping 8 pound 11 ounces

<OgMaciel> elkbuntu: she is getting bigger by the minute... she's barely 3 weeks old now and doesn't want to stay put anymore

<elkbuntu> ooh, so no longer prospective?

<OgMaciel> elkbuntu: my daughter: 9 pounds 3 ounces

<OgMaciel> elkbuntu: she was born this past 15th of May

<elkbuntu> OgMaciel, we're not in may yet :Þ

<OgMaciel> oops

<OgMaciel> hehehe

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<OgMaciel> elkbuntu: gimme some credit... still driniking my second cup of Joe

<OgMaciel> ;)

<elkbuntu> tehehe

<OgMaciel> 15th of Feb

<OgMaciel> almost a Valentines baby

<elkbuntu> well nearly 9 pound is quite big for our family history, most of us were in the 7.5 pound region

<OgMaciel> elkbuntu: same here... Yv, my older, was 6 11

<elkbuntu> this must be the year of beefy bubs

<OgMaciel> hahahaha

<OgMaciel> my wife did gain 40 pounds

<jono> OgMaciel: dude :)

<OgMaciel> jono: hey buddy... ready for FISL?? ;)

<jono> OgMaciel: pretty much :)

<jono> OgMaciel: its gonna be fun fun fun! :)

<elkbuntu> FISL?

<OgMaciel> jono: rub it in, won't you?

<OgMaciel> :)

* OgMaciel is DYING to go

<jono> OgMaciel: oh shit, yeah you won't be there :(

<jono> dammit

<OgMaciel> :/

<OgMaciel> oh well

<OgMaciel> there's always next yeart

<OgMaciel> year

<elkbuntu> ooh, another conference?

<OgMaciel> jono: I was thinking... maybe we could convince the System76 guys to lend us a laptop for displaying?

<OgMaciel> elkbuntu: yup... in Brazil

* elkbuntu joins the jealousy club

<OgMaciel> hehe

<OgMaciel> I founded that club

<elkbuntu> OgMaciel, lol

<OgMaciel> ;)

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<OgMaciel> it sucks for me b/c I work with the Brazilian clan for over 16 months now and have never met any of them

<elkbuntu> after all these cool confs im missing, i'll be incredibly jealous if i dont get to spain :-/

<OgMaciel> I don't think I can make it to Spain either

<OgMaciel> it would be too soon for me to take time off from work

<elkbuntu> OgMaciel, i'll be sure to cry with you if i dont get there

* OgMaciel has been working at his new job for 5 months and has already taken 5 days to go to MTV-UDS

<OgMaciel> elkbuntu: deal! ;)

<boredandblogging> jono: i have run soon, anymore thoughts on the domain issue?

<jono> boredandblogging: the policy is <state>.ubuntu-us.org

<jono> and thats how it will remain

<jono> ubuntu-<state>.org domains are just too much to maintain

<boredandblogging> even if the LoCos hosted it themselves?

<elkbuntu> 52 extra domains? that would be crazy

<jono> boredandblogging: but why? its just a domain, so whats wrong with the subdomain approach

<jono> boredandblogging: its expensive and unneccessary, and a pain to maintain

<boredandblogging> we can't get a subdomain, we aren't approved yet

<jono> right, so get approved

<boredandblogging> ok

<jono> boredandblogging: the suggested policy is to create your wiki pages first, get approved and then you can build a full on website

<Vorian> boredandblogging, we'll help you get there :)

<jono> this is so you spend more time building a team instead of pissing around with websites

<jono> exactly, Vorian and crew are here to help :)

<jono> but I will not support ubuntu-<state>.org domains - it will be a massive nightmare in the longrun

<elkbuntu> i think it's fair to say we're *all* here to help where we can

<boredandblogging> fair enough

<boredandblogging> thanks for all your time

* Vorian highfives elkbuntu

<etank> so should we take down the site if we have one registered?

<jono> boredandblogging: :)

<yann2> <boredandblogging> we can't get a subdomain, we aren't approved yet

<yann2> <jono> right, so get approved

<yann2> _lol_ :)

<jono> :)

<yann2> fr.ubuntu-eu.org

<yann2> mmmmmmmmmmmh. no. definitely :D

<yann2> mmmh... well... :D :]

<elkbuntu> anyway all you loco people, im off to bed

<yann2> bye ;)

<yann2> jono > i may be able to come see you, i got the job in oxfort (the one on ubuntu.com/employment) :p

<etank> jono: should i take down the ubuntu-kentucky.org site?

<jono> etank: if you could not use it and use the subdomain site, that would be good :)

<jono> yann2: which job?

<yann2> jono > ubuntu-eu may be able to build a vserver to host temporarily non approved locoteams, when needed

<yann2> http://www.ubuntu.com/employment#head-6ba1371596048a2ab65ba63261cb6b0df5864f7e

<etank> jono: ok. thanks.

<jono> etank: thanks, you are a hero :)

<jono> yann2: you moving to the uk?

<yann2> in one month :p

<yann2> but for 6 monthes only :)

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<Vorian> an quiet again

<Vorian> and8

<Vorian> pfft!

<Vorian> and*

<meatballhat> Vorian: boo! /me runs

<Vorian> ah!

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