| <cafuego_> it's a bit off that vmware would emulate a scsi drive that isn't supported by a standard windows | |
| <Phlosten> you get two choices of SCSI drive, and both aint supported by XP | |
| <cafuego_> just use teh ide | |
| <Daemon> what version of xp / vmware? I've installed xp in vmware without a floppy for ages | |
| <cafuego_> ^H^H^H^Hwtf you using windows for? | |
| <Phlosten> xp pro and latest vmware server | |
| <cafuego_> Phlosten: yeah, ide just works | |
| <Daemon> xp pro with sp2 integrated? | |
| <Phlosten> yeah | |
| <cafuego_> if you run out of virtual disks, add another virtual ide controller | |
| <Daemon> then there shouldn't be a problem, I certainly haven't had one | |
| <Phlosten> i couldnt see and option for an ide hdd | |
| <cafuego_> Phlosten: 's the default for XP | |
| <Phlosten> in vmware | |
| <cafuego_> yes | |
| <bimberi> Has anyone had any joy accessing USB devices from XP on vmware-server on linux? | |
| <Phlosten> bimberi, yes | |
| <bimberi> Phlosten: Just worked(tm) or extra config required? | |
| <Phlosten> just worked, for usb key anyway | |
| <Phlosten> you need to tell vmware to connect the device though | |
| <Phlosten> vmware menu...VM -> Removable Devices | |
| <bimberi> Phlosten: Thankyou. That's what I missed :) | |
| <Phlosten> yeah, its kinda hidden | |
| <bimberi> I have some software that requires a dongle | |
| <bimberi> ... the only reason I need XP | |
| <bimberi> If I can get it working in v-s then goodbye dualboot :) | |
| * bimberi will try it this evening | |
| <Phlosten> yeah, i have given up on the dual boot | |
| <Phlosten> i find myself very lost when only running windows | |
| <Phlosten> bimberi, whats the bit of software you are running that needs windows? | |
| <bimberi> Phlosten: 'PE Design', it's design software that goes with our sewing machine for embroidery | |
| <Phlosten> ah, indeed | |
| <Phlosten> no gold class wine support on the cards for that one | |
| <bimberi> Nope. The machine has a slot for the CF style card and the USB reader/writer for the PC acts as a dongle for running the software | |
| * bimberi has checked the Linux kernel source. No drivers for its PCI ID :/ | |
| <bimberi> Not enough embroidering geeks out there ;p | |
| <Phlosten> good old linux, gave xp vmware a chunk more ram and linux killed it for out of memory errors | |
| <Phlosten> hmm, this isnt working. need more ram for this to be useful :/ | |
| <adhoc> internode on hold music is horrible on a mobile =( | |
| <merlin-linux> hehe | |
| <merlin-linux> i use there call back service :-) | |
| <adhoc> yeah just got that and left a message | |
| <purserj> hmm, Karins playing with her dads old reel to reel | |
| <merlin-linux> purserj: friend of mine has an old stereo studio reel to reel that he uses | |
| <adhoc> damn!!!! | |
| <merlin-linux> what? | |
| <adhoc> there is an outstanding payment due of $310 on the monana accont =( | |
| <merlin-linux> huh? | |
| <merlin-linux> we are not in debt | |
| <merlin-linux> i have paid all the monies needed | |
| <merlin-linux> whats the outstanding monies for? | |
| <adhoc> and of course they won't enable it until the payment is made | |
| <adhoc> the $310 is for the ADSL line with internode for the mona SLSC | |
| <adhoc> this is why the internode account has been suspended =/ | |
| <merlin-linux> well i can't bail them out | |
| <adhoc> hmmm | |
| <hantu> gday guys | |
| <Phlosten> anyone here using sshfs? | |
| <tuppa> don't? | |
| <tuppa> well, that's shfs | |
| <Phlosten> not to worry | |
| <Phlosten> bit of pebkac on my part | |
| <sicc-xp> this tafe work has just hit the stage of complete shit | |
| <Phlosten> sicc-xp, what are you doing now? | |
| <sicc-xp> gotta create an application in VB, that stores config details in the registry, then write an adm file | |
| <Phlosten> erk | |
| <purserj> so its virus writing class? | |
| <sicc-xp> lol | |
| <sicc-xp> essentially, yes :) | |
| <Phlosten> heh | |
| <tuppa> script kiddie virus writing class? | |
| <merlin-linux> Phlosten: i use sshfs | |
| <sicc-xp> Someone give me an idea on what this application should be | |
| <Phlosten> merlin-linux, i was wondering why i was getting a wierd listing for an sshfs, but i have typed in the wrong directory to mount | |
| <merlin-linux> Phlosten: hehe | |
| *** sicc-xp-crashed is now known as sicc-xp | |
| <Tatey> heh, six-xp | |
| <sicc-xp> hey Tatey | |
| <Tatey> what's up? | |
| <Phlosten> siccness has decided to defect back to the dark side | |
| <Tatey> oh why for? | |
| <Tatey> too much compiling? | |
| <Tatey> you know binary linux distributions exist sicc-xp | |
| <Phlosten> he missed not having and unstable bug ridden wirus infected piece of trash that he had to continuously reinstall. he was getting bored | |
| <Phlosten> :D | |
| <sicc-xp> Tatey: Heh, nah TAFE has forced me to Windows | |
| <Tatey> how does TAFE force you to use Windows? | |
| <adhoc> assignments | |
| * Tatey throws a virtual machine at sicc-xp | |
| <sicc-xp> Nah | |
| <sicc-xp> because it'd get too complicated | |
| <Tatey> how so? | |
| <sicc-xp> it's a long story, sicc doesn't want to get into the politics of it all. | |
| <Tatey> 1) Install VM 2) Install XP 3) ??? 4) Profit | |
| <Tatey> well, I use XP in a VM for the Adobe CS2 suite, works like a charm | |
| <cafuego_> ugh | |
| <cafuego_> traitor | |
| * cafuego_ uses VMware to host Xen kernels, which then run domU guests. | |
| <Tatey> I use VirtualBox, it's GPL ^_^ | |
| <adhoc> bochs rox | |
| <sicc-xp> 40% of the project is completed. | |
| <Phlosten> Tatey, how much ram you had? | |
| <Phlosten> have | |
| <Tatey> 1GB | |
| <sicc-xp> I'm surprised Arch can run on 1GB of RAM | |
| <Phlosten> i tried running PScs2 in xp vm with 512, that was a mistake | |
| <Phlosten> need to get me another 512MB ram | |
| <Tatey> yea, 512MB probably isn't enough | |
| <Phlosten> i think min for CS2 is 384MB | |
| <Phlosten> but as a virtual machine I cant give more than 276 without things going to hell | |
| <sicc-xp> We run Novell 5.1 + Windows XP (in VM) and Windows XP Professional as the host at tafe with 512mb | |
| * adhoc used to run a dozen bochs machines on 32MB =) | |
| <tuppa> wow | |
| <tuppa> people still run Novell these days? | |
| <sicc-xp> Sadly. | |
| <Phlosten> just in tafe to annoy students | |
| <Phlosten> bbl | |
| <MistaED> geez ubuntu is buggy today, my programs just magically disappear | |
| <Fujitsu> MistaED, which version? | |
| <MistaED> Fujitsu: edgy 64-bit | |
| <MistaED> i haven't installed any updates the past 2-3 days | |
| <MistaED> and it was fine yesterday | |
| <MistaED> i'm running maya now from a terminal, so i should get some feedback as to why it crashed if it does it again, might do the same for firefox | |
| <Fujitsu> Have you rebooted since? | |
| <MistaED> Fujitsu: i turn my machine off every night, so it's restarted everyday | |
| <Fujitsu> OK. | |
| <MistaED> might be an xorg visual glitch thing | |
| <Phlosten> MistaED, what video drivers are you running? | |
| <MistaED> Phlosten: hehe yeah, the latest stable lupine nvidia ones :) | |
| <MistaED> but i've been using them for llike a month | |
| <Phlosten> i have noticed problems with the nv driver and blender doing the magical disappearing act | |
| <MistaED> is that with a compositing WM though? i've just got standard metacity because maya has issues with beryl/compiz | |
| <Phlosten> no beryl | |
| <MistaED> mmm, "The application 'firefox-bin' lost its connection to the display :0.0; | |
| <MistaED> most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed | |
| <MistaED> the application." | |
| * MistaED hits save on maya :S | |
| <MistaED> BAM, there goes maya "X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)." | |
| <MistaED> ubuntu is very stable | |
| <MistaED> maybe i should go suse or fedora haha | |
| * MistaED restarts | |
| <Phlosten> bugger it, cant find my win2k cd | |
| <praetorian> its okay | |
| <praetorian> i found it | |
| <praetorian> i put it on a website for you | |
| <praetorian> www.serials.ws | |
| *** kgoetz_ is now known as kgoetz | |
| <Phlosten> off to tafe, bbl | |
| * kgoetz slaps sicc-xp | |
| <sicc-xp> yea yeah | |
| <sicc-xp> big sicc is a traitor, blah blah | |
| <sicc-xp> :) | |
| <kgoetz> :P | |
| <sicc-xp> sweet, 100% completion of project ;) | |
| <kgoetz> anyay. off home. bbl | |
| <sicc-xp> back to a decent OS | |
| <elkbuntu> i386! | |
| <i386> elkbuntu :) | |
| <i386> how is everyone | |
| <i386> Im on a bus | |
| * elkbuntu huggles i386 | |
| <i386> surfing on my wireless thingo | |
| <elkbuntu> im fine. did you see my article on linux.com? | |
| <i386> no! | |
| <i386> link! | |
| <elkbuntu> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/20/197251 | |
| <i386> elkbuntu: rock! | |
| <elkbuntu> i386, :D | |
| <i386> thats kicking | |
| <elkbuntu> thankies :) | |
| <i386> elkbuntu: wheres your blog? I dont have it in my ag | |
| <elkbuntu> i386, geekosophical.net | |
| <i386> rock | |
| <i386> mines at i386.kruel.org/blog | |
| <i386> elkbuntu: oh your colour funkiness issues are not your graphics card | |
| <i386> when playing SecondLife | |
| <i386> its the OpenJPEG library | |
| <elkbuntu> i386, ooh? | |
| <i386> they have patches out at the moment | |
| <elkbuntu> is it why i cant click anything too? | |
| <i386> elkbuntu: thats because OpenJPEG is so busy decoding things SL viewer cant process your mouse clicks :p | |
| <elkbuntu> i386, cafuego only packages the binary and im too lazy to compile | |
| <i386> elkbuntu: I am writing a script | |
| <i386> so you can build it all | |
| <i386> well | |
| <i386> writing it for OpenSL | |
| <i386> it will download the latest code, its dep's and patch the hell out of it | |
| <elkbuntu> funky | |
| <i386> then build it :) | |
| <i386> ya | |
| <i386> caught up with Leslie too | |
| <elkbuntu> so long as i dont have to like pay attention to it or input shit, im happy | |
| <i386> shes in Europe somewhere | |
| <i386> elkbuntu: thats my intension :P | |
| <elkbuntu> did she do fossdem? | |
| <i386> I think so | |
| <i386> anyway | |
| <i386> gttg | |
| <i386> later | |
| <elkbuntu> have fun | |
| * elkbuntu huggles i386 | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lifeless, basicly i want to know if theres instructions on how to run it, and wether it works with alt cd image or just live | |
| <lifeless> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDShareThisCD | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hi peeps | |
| * Davo_Dinkum is trying out xfce again. | |
| <elkbuntu> bwaha! another dev sucked into the abyss | |
| * siccness throws punches | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lifeless, sweet, thanks.so in theory i could use an install cd not live? | |
| <lifeless> errr | |
| <lifeless> I have no idea what you are trying to do, but if you mean 'can you boot a text mode installer over the network using a modified casper' - sure | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> er, yes, thats what i mean | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser still thinks of text mode as 'install cd' | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What distro are we talking about? | |
| <lifeless> but you'll need to modify the text mode installer to *use* casper | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> lmao | |
| <lifeless> but another way, what is it you want to do ? | |
| * purserj shudders at livecd stuffs | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> This *actually* appears in the warranty dsiclaimer thingy for my router: "due to act of God" | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lifeless, i'm wondering if an alternate cd could be streamed to a pxe booting host to install when it has a dud cd drive | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> (alternate because system in question has 256mb of ram) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Oooh nice this router comes with GPL code and a copy of the GPL | |
| * Davo_Dinkum is pleasantly surprised | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Davo_Dinkum, what *is* the router ? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> DLINK DSL-G604T | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> wireless DSL router | |
| <lifeless> Kamping_Kaiser: yes, if you modify it to use casper :) | |
| <lifeless> Kamping_Kaiser: but why not just NFS boot it ? | |
| <lifeless> no need to stream then | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lifeless, i'll look into it. i'm just looking for ways, and that one came to mind | |
| <lifeless> so the whole ubuntu on tap thing was less simple than NFS boot because of casper, which plays bind mount tricks and stuff | |
| <lifeless> regular NFS boot is rather trivial, and I'm sure the text mode installer has that | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks for the sugestion. i'll put it aside for when i'm ready to have a stab at it (depends how many cd drives we can scrape together as to wether we need it) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. bbl. dinner | |
| <lifeless> np | |
| <lifeless> later y'all | |
| <MistaED> Fujitsu: i think i know what the problem was! just struck me | |
| <MistaED> my screen sometimes doesn't turn on when it gets power, and i reset it after gdm popped up, maybe that caused some instability with nvidia's dynamic twinview and xorg's static old management :P | |
| * purserj thinks lifeless has been around to many americans | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser thinks he should brush up on his OO.o skills | |
| <Rothbuntu> the biggest loser isnt even about loosing weight anymore its just about who gets evicted | |
| <purserj> Rothbuntu: and you're surprised? | |
| <Rothbuntu> yeah a bit but its chan 10 so i didnt expect much | |
| <siccness> wazzzup | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: Wouldn't even waste 2mins in OO.o | |
| <Rothbuntu> stuff | |
| <siccness> Fact is, you're probbaly better off learning Office 2007. | |
| <purserj> siccness: huh? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, i'm about to deliever training in it. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> and why am i better of in o2k7? | |
| <siccness> Because o2k7 rocks :) | |
| <praetorian> !ops ban siccness for trolling | |
| <praetorian> :P | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> Have you used it? It's very nice. | |
| * purserj needs more alcohol before he deals with this | |
| <siccness> Calm down big purserj | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> praetorian, dont tempt me... | |
| <purserj> I just need more alcohol full stop | |
| <siccness> Haha | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, yeh, i tried it. nearly toped myself | |
| <praetorian> i have chocolate | |
| <siccness> I like it a lot. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> its bs. | |
| <Rothbuntu> whens feisty due out ?? | |
| <adhoc> hey purserj, wassup ? | |
| <siccness> april | |
| <adhoc> hi Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <siccness> Oh sweet lord Beer. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hi adhoc | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. feisty will be out when i get back :o | |
| <praetorian> siccness: xp went to your head | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ^^ | |
| <siccness> XP sucks | |
| <praetorian> ruby sucks | |
| <praetorian> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161566 | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> Oh sweet, pool room tonight :D | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser depriorities OO.o in favour of goroka email | |
| <praetorian> pool room eh | |
| <praetorian> is that with chicks and water | |
| <siccness> shit oath mate | |
| <praetorian> or the boring one | |
| <siccness> big sicc gets to show off his elite kellys pool skills | |
| <siccness> while drinking beer! | |
| <adhoc> siccness: looks you already started on the beer | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <purserj> he adhoc | |
| <siccness> ill be hammered in about 4 jugs time | |
| <siccness> so yeah, i'd be clear of irc in about 5hrs | |
| <praetorian> ill be asleep | |
| <praetorian> especially if i have to catch a train at 7.30 | |
| <siccness> eek | |
| <siccness> i gotta meeting tomorrow | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <siccness> meh | |
| <siccness> w/b | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> damn damn damn gtk+^W | |
| <siccness> lo | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ty | |
| <siccness> hows tafe Kamping_Kaiser? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, well.... tehy still havent given me the stuff i need to do for this semester | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> did you get my msg about my mate ?( i was typing it and hit ^W) | |
| <siccness> nah | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> they screwed him over pretty badly. hes got 9 months worth of subjects to do in 5 months. | |
| <siccness> thats fsck'd | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh. its kinda complicated, but if he doesnt get it his employer is thinking of sueing them (because it will cost him and them a lot of $) | |
| <siccness> I wish my course were extended to three years | |
| <siccness> so that we learnt something useful | |
| <purserj> Go to Uni | |
| <siccness> It might actually force me to head to University | |
| <siccness> Yup | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> heh | |
| <purserj> Then you can have a three year course and still feel like you haven't learnt enough | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i hear adelaide unis good ;) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ROFL | |
| <siccness> purserj: Hahah | |
| <siccness> I've learnt a few things, mostly this year. | |
| <siccness> Nothing in the previous year however. | |
| <siccness> Mind you, if I didn't go to TAFE I wouldn't be using Linux. | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser looks at floorplans of the ggh - shotgun not being the sucker who works in the morgue | |
| <siccness> Man, you gotta love whirlpool. How's this for a thread: What are you drinking now | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> whats pathology? | |
| <siccness> the study of paths | |
| <adhoc> biology ? | |
| <siccness> Pathology (from Greek pathos, feeling, pain, suffering; and logos, study of; see also -ology) is the study of the processes underlying disease and other forms of illness, harmful abnormality, or dysfunction. | |
| <Rothbuntu> pathology = testing samples of poop blood | |
| <Rothbuntu> insert , where needed | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm... | |
| <Rothbuntu> g/f is doing medical science so i know all about it :s | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> heh :S | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Xfce | |
| <siccness> ob | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> is trying to be like a WM | |
| <romana> yes | |
| <romana> a low end gnome | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Secondary-click has the xfce menu | |
| <siccness> secondary? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> aka right click | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Some people use the mouse with their left hand | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Shock horror! | |
| <siccness> so whats the middle click called? | |
| * Davo_Dinkum shrugs | |
| <adhoc> button 3 | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Davo_Dinkum, freaks | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> middle click | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, well.... a scroll wheel is technically 3 buttons itself | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Tertiary click! | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> friggin damnsmalllinux | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> open firefix already | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *fox | |
| <siccness> I think Firefox 2.0.0.2 is less stable than 2.0.0.1 | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> On which OS? | |
| <siccness> Seems to be crashing everytime something related to 'flash' is loaded. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ubuntu? | |
| <siccness> Gentoo | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL flash | |
| * Davo_Dinkum waits for gnash | |
| <siccness> LOL gnash | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It's making good progress | |
| <siccness> Yes, my LOL was just a pointless comment really. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Ah right | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> So what was all that other stuff you said? :P | |
| <siccness> Pointless comments too | |
| <siccness> I just thought it might be nice for me to atleast /point/ out one of my pointless comments. | |
| <siccness> Try and make it easier for people to understand me. | |
| <TigerWolf2> omg - is there a simple way to setup a cvs server | |
| <TigerWolf2> its soo much pain | |
| *** TigerWolf2 is now known as TigerWolf | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What ports do I have to open on a DSL router to allow VPN passthrough | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> brb | |
| <adhoc> TigerWolf: perhaps the way to aviod CVS pain is to use SVN, SVK or Git | |
| <TigerWolf> hopefully installing SVN isnt as painful | |
| <adhoc> having modules in CVS is an arse ... SVN is supposed to be better | |
| <TigerWolf> do i have to use WebDAV for svn? | |
| <TigerWolf> or is it just recommended | |
| <adhoc> don't think so | |
| <TigerWolf> well im following this - maybe i should try something else | |
| <TigerWolf> http://ariejan.net/2006/12/01/how-to-setup-a-ubuntu-development-server-part-1/ | |
| <adhoc> TigerWolf: i don't get why this guys setup SVN over webdav | |
| <adhoc> maybe because he wants to browse the repo in a web browser? | |
| <TigerWolf> i dunno | |
| <TigerWolf> first guide i found | |
| <adhoc> i'm pretty sure that SVN has a network service of its own | |
| <adhoc> we use it at work like that... | |
| <purserj> adhoc: for web based development and for easy browsing | |
| <adhoc> ah ok | |
| <purserj> checkout svn.k-sit.com | |
| <purserj> Thats how I've got mine setup | |
| <siccness> purserj: yea thats mad | |
| <siccness> i wanna setup something like that | |
| <purserj> siccness: use the gentoo docs, should be able to walk you through it without an issue | |
| <siccness> yeah, i just havent much time at the moment | |
| <siccness> gtg bye | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> later mate | |
| <tuppa> evening | |
| <romana> evening tuppa:) | |
| <tuppa> hey romana :) | |
| <romana> whats up tonight in yr world? | |
| <tuppa> just chilling out after finally handed in the assignment last night :) | |
| <tuppa> and you? | |
| <romana> oh, got small ones in bed finally | |
| <romana> jus updated feisty | |
| <tuppa> I should do that sometime | |
| <romana> chilling a bit myself | |
| <adhoc> TigerWolf: http://ariejan.net/svncheatsheet | |
| <romana> its a bit boringly stable, this feisty, so far. wheres the earth shattering kaboom???? | |
| <tuppa> that's debian sid | |
| <tuppa> :) | |
| <tuppa> or *gasp* gentoo | |
| <romana> i ran sid for yrs. boringly stable too. | |
| <tuppa> you don't run nis do you? :p | |
| <tuppa> in an office too :p | |
| <romana> gentoo meh. i may as well freebsd, and id never her the end of it here. himself would gloat. | |
| <siccness> gentoo ftw | |
| <TigerWolf> thanks adhoc | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> romana, lol | |
| <romana> :) | |
| <siccness> richard_marx-hazard.ogg <--good song | |
| <romana> Kamping_Kaiser: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/01/0434255&from=rss | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> romana, hum.... *reads* | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> is there a blog engine that creates real urls? (for example: website.com/blog/i_visted_fred_today) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> not website.com/blog?=12834 | |
| <romana> yes | |
| <romana> mine does | |
| <romana> wordpress | |
| <purserj> Kamping_Kaiser: drupal has clean urls | |
| <romana> hence : http://timelady.com/blog/2007/02/28/science-is/ | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks romana and purserj , i'll check them out | |
| <romana> but you cn chnge tht to even clener, i just like that format | |
| <romana> damn my a key is sticking sod it | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> heh :/ need to fix it :) | |
| <romana> yup, but not tonight | |
| <romana> :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.... i'm kinda tempted to go with drupal, i was told good things about it at lca07 | |
| <Phlosten> good evening all | |
| <romana> hey Phlosten | |
| <bimberi> http://techblog.liberatedcomputing.net/pyblosxom_has_meaningful_urls_too.html :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi, :P | |
| <romana> lol @ bimberi | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> anyone know why both mysql+postgres are recomended for drupal, but no database is required | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ? | |
| <Fujitsu> Kamping_Kaiser: You can run the DB on another machine? | |
| <Fujitsu> They should only be Suggests, really. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ah | |
| <Fujitsu> Gah, stupid JBJ. | |
| <Fujitsu> What a nonsensical email. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <Fujitsu> Kamping_Kaiser: He used significant profanity on -devel-discuss, someone criticised him, and he replied with something somewhat unrelated about `being comfortable with our indifferences' | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Fujitsu, i swear that guy gets further off the planet every post he makes | |
| <pschulz01> Anyone here familiar with 'startup' in edgy? | |
| <pschulz01> or is that upstart? | |
| <Phlosten> upstart | |
| <Rothbuntu> YAY fireworks | |
| <pschulz01> Where do I enable a serial console? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Who's on internode DSL here? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Davo_Dinkum, me | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, on a standard pc? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Do you have to specify a DNS on the DSL modem? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> no, but i do | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> so i know where to find them when the modem goes silly :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Ah OK | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> also, if i tell it where to find the dns servers, it has no excuse for not finding them (and less chance to be silly) | |
| <pschulz01> I'll go ask in #ubuntu | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I'm setting up this DSL modem for someone, so I want to plug in all the details before I give it to them | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Kamping_Kaiser: What's the DNS address then? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Davo_Dinkum, therers 4. just a mo | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Heh OK | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> 192.231.203.2 192.231.203.3 are the main ones | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I only have 2 fields here: 'preferred and 'Alternate' | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Shall I put those two in? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> use those two, in that order | |
| <TigerWolf> yay i have a working svn! | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Righty o | |
| <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Yes.. I have a new server.. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, ah ok. | |
| <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: .. but /etc/inittat is missing on edgy. | |
| <pschulz01> /etc/inittab | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, really? i thought that was part of the legacy package - obviously wrong | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> tried #upstart? | |
| <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Maybe.. bit it isnt there on a fresh install | |
| <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Ta.. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> gl | |
| <Fujitsu> /etc/event.d has configuration for the various gettys. | |
| <Fujitsu> pschulz01: If you copy one of the ttyX files from there to something like ttyS0, and modify the `respawn' line with the appropriate parameters, all will be Good. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Kamping_Kaiser: PPPoE/PPPoA or Dynamic IP address (for internode) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Davo_Dinkum, they accept both | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Thoughtso | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> The Dlink setup wizard wants me to choose one! | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> then choose one :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Dynamic IP here I come! | |
| <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Success... copy /etc/event.d/tty1 to ttyS0 and use 'initctl start ttyS0' | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, congrats | |
| <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Just have to remember how to get grub and kernel to use serial .. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. *has no idea* | |
| * pschulz01 remembers that it is really easy to do... | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Is it possible to setup WPA encryption | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> with only the router? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Or do I need a wireless notebook as well? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Wireless router | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> WPA encrytion | |
| <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: kernel parameter 'console=ttyS0,38400n8' | |
| <Rothbuntu> http://zip.4chan.org/g/src.cgi/1172662000169.jpg <--- SAFE | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, tty+baud? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Rothbuntu: Nice! | |
| <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Yes | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Rothbuntu, neat | |
| <pschulz01> baud+parity+bits | |
| <Fujitsu> pschulz01: When it doubt, read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/upstart. | |
| <Phlosten> Rothbuntu, sweeet | |
| <pschulz01> Fujitsu: Thanks.. | |
| <Rothbuntu> nice idea aye | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What on earth is 'Virtual Circuit'? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Davo_Dinkum, defaults should be sane | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Kamping_Kaiser: Yeah they look pretty sane | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Stupid router isn't saving settings | |
| <Changlinn> is it just me or a flash files causing gnome to crash? | |
| <Fujitsu> Changlinn, if by GNOME you mean Nautilus, it's probably bug #46687. | |
| <ubot3_> Malone bug 46687 in swfdec0.3 "Nautilus crashes trying to create a thumbnail for .swf files" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46687 | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I want that motherboard man | |
| * Davo_Dinkum is edgy | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> GA-M57SLI-S4 | |
| <Fujitsu> That's the LinuxBIOS one, no? | |
| <Changlinn> Fujitsu: yeah nautilus goes, but takes part of gnome with it... | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Fujitsu: Yep that's the one | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I think I saw an AM2 Athlon CPU for $60, which is good. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> And 512mb of brand name ram should be about $80 | |
| <Fujitsu> Why would you get 512MiB? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Fujitsu: Why not? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> That's enough isn't it? | |
| <Fujitsu> It's rather small. | |
| <Phlosten> 1GB would be much better | |
| <Fujitsu> A shiny new AM2 with 512MB is a little silly. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> For doing what exactly? | |
| <Phlosten> i have 512MB and I am finding myself limited | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I just surf the net | |
| <Phlosten> but that is mainly vmware | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Although iceweasel/ff are memory hogs | |
| <Fujitsu> Firefox will eat a few hundred, mail clients will eat at least 1 or 2 hundred... | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> No mail clients here | |
| <Phlosten> i need another 512MB, prob buy some next week | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser repeats the sugestion of 1 gig | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Fine I'll get a gig then | |
| <Phlosten> it'll future proof you more | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yup | |
| <Changlinn> get 2gb :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Changlinn: Shouting me are you? | |
| <Changlinn> I find 1gb does me till I have a few vm's running | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Also no VMs here | |
| <Changlinn> Davo_Dinkum: heheh I wish I could shout myself | |
| <Changlinn> night everyone | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Night | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> night | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Is MAC address filtering worth the hassle? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Is it really a strong method of protecting a wireless network? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> depends how hard you want to make breaking in | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> no | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah I thought so | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ifconfig hw yo:ur:ma:ca:dd:y0 | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What does that do? Fake the MAC address? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Or retrieve it? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> sets my mac to yours | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> so yes, fake it | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Ah right | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> WEP sucks as well, right? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Compared to the more modern ones | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> wep sucks, i cant really comment on others | |
| <shenki> vaccum cleaners suck | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> so do shenki 's jokes | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> My tafe course is apparetly going to teach us how to setup WEP encrytion and MAC address whitelisting | |
| <shenki> so does Kamping_Kaiser's... /me clears throat | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Davo_Dinkum, thank goodness you subscribed to that! | |
| <shenki> :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> shenki, and why are you clearning your throught? been sucking? :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I looked at the info sheet and thought 'aren't those really old and insecure'? | |
| <shenki> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, i hate it when it all gets stuck to the sides | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Davo_Dinkum, be glad your nto learning about tokenring... | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL now that's old | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What do you guys think this router is worth? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> The DSL-G604T I've got | |
| <hereinoz> Is it just a router or a router modem - not familiar with the model. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> hereinoz: ADSL router modem with NAT firewall and 4 port switch | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> hereinoz: Linky: http://www.dlink.com.au/Products.aspx?Sec=1&Sub1=1&Sub2=2&PID=50 | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> b/g wireless | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> DSL2+ supported | |
| <Rothbuntu> mac address security is no good :( | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Rothbuntu: Tell that to my tafe | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *I* know it's insecure | |
| <Rothbuntu> get a WAG54G? by linksys | |
| <Rothbuntu> tafe are morons ignore everything they tell you | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Rothbuntu: This one I have here has a built in DSL modem. Bit different | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Rothbuntu: Then why go to tafe? | |
| <hereinoz> billion do a similar one for less than AU$150 new. Makes it tough to sell a used one | |
| <Rothbuntu> ahh yeah i dont anymore | |
| <Rothbuntu> i did a cert 4 in netowrk management then laughted at them and left | |
| <Rothbuntu> all they teach is novell | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Did that involve windows, windows and more windows? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *As well? | |
| <Rothbuntu> we lernt how to do mail merge from an access file to word then we made a web page in excel | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> WTF? That's what secretaries/data entry operators do. | |
| <Rothbuntu> only good class at tafe was the linux classes " install software to a network pc " | |
| <Rothbuntu> which i had to do 2 times because i did it in vic using windows but in sa they use linux | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL | |
| <Rothbuntu> and i also passed cisco 1 and 2 in vic but they want me to pay again for them 2 classes in SA because they have no record of me doing it which is only about $600 for them to tick a box's so i told them to shove it | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Is there a program that will DL a website for you? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> So you can view it offline | |
| <Rothbuntu> PS.. the linksys wag54g wahtever i have is the modem/router.wireless one | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I have a WRT54G v2.2 running OpenWRT | |
| <Rothbuntu> get right ? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> get right? Eh? | |
| * Rothbuntu googles | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> !kget | |
| <ubot3_> Factoid kget not found | |
| <Rothbuntu> theres a sexy way to do it with linux | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yes? | |
| <Rothbuntu> wget | |
| <Rothbuntu> !wget | |
| <ubot3_> Factoid wget not found | |
| <Rothbuntu> dumbot | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser slaps self for nearly asking 'you mean they dont have satac in vic' after reading up | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> try !info | |
| <Rothbuntu> nar cisco say i have done 1 and 2 but i have to pay RPL for them 2 classes | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> rpl sucks | |
| <Rothbuntu> which is bollocks cuz im not paying again for things im not even doing | |
| <Phlosten> Davo_Dinkum, httrack | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> !httrack | |
| <ubot3_> Factoid httrack not found | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Pfft | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> !tiemu | |
| <ubot3_> Factoid tiemu not found | |
| <Phlosten> it mirrors websites | |
| <Fujitsu> !info httrack | |
| <ubot3_> Package httrack does not exist in | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Phlosten: Mirrors? I need it to DL it | |
| <Fujitsu> !info httrack feisty | |
| <Rothbuntu> axel is a good downloader | |
| <Fujitsu> Davo_Dinkum, mirror == dl | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> tiemu is sweet. TI calculator emulator | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Fujitsu: Ah OK | |
| <Phlosten> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/httrack | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> httrak or axel then? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I want to DL this site basically: http://www.dlink.com.au/tech/default.asp?model=DSL-G604T | |
| <Rothbuntu> http://www.jim.roberts.net/articles/wget.html | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What about webhttrack? | |
| <Rothbuntu> never used that | |
| <Rothbuntu> ive had " some " success " with wget | |
| <elkbuntu> what is it about Donnie Darko that makes it compulsive viewing every freaking time? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, what is it? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Kamping_Kaiser: Movie | |
| <Fujitsu> Ah, a movie. | |
| <Fujitsu> Silly things. | |
| <Fujitsu> At least they are a way to keep out of JBJ's realm, I guess. | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser has heard of the movie, small people trapped on ones screen | |
| <Rothbuntu> i herd they have color now | |
| <Rothbuntu> on the picture radio | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :o | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> what will they thihnk of next | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL picture radio | |
| <Rothbuntu> fair dunkium my great granny called it the " picture wireless " | |
| <Rothbuntu> since most of the time it had no picture | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Get digital TV | |
| <Rothbuntu> for the amoutn of tv i watch HAHAH i dont think so | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> DSL is crap | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Stupid thing is lagging hard | |
| <praetorian> stop downloading | |
| <praetorian> :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> DSL=damn small linix | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *linux | |
| <praetorian> oh | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> And I have cable anyway | |
| <praetorian> sorry to hear | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Eh? Why? | |
| <praetorian> means you are either with bigpoo or optarse | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> optus | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> opiumtus | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Will get internode when this contract runs out | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> bbs | |
| <praetorian> 24 months? | |
| <praetorian> long contract times is one reason i hate bigpoo / opatarse | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah I got 24 month contract for the free installation/modem offer | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Bye! | |
| <siccness> wazzuppp | |
| * siccness whistles | |
| <tsmithe> where's ubugtu damnit! | |
| <tuppa> morning | |
| <Fujitsu> Hi tuppa. | |
| <tuppa> jeu | |
| <tuppa> I mean, good morning Fujitsu | |
| <purserj> the letters are so close together | |
| <tuppa> they are when you're still groggy in the morning | |
| <Phlosten> morning all | |
| <romana> heyho:) | |
| * Phlosten starts planning an open source talk for oldies | |
| <romana> Phlosten: wonderful!!! ive done it a few times | |
| <romana> more individals than group, but is fun | |
| <Phlosten> at first I wasn't sure whether I would be able to do it, but I think I can manage to do it now | |
| <romana> course you can:) | |
| <tuppa> good morning Phlosten, romana | |
| <romana> hey tuppa:) | |
| <Phlosten> howdy tuppa |
