| <FordPrefect_NZ> g'darvo | |
| <Plug> hi | |
| <FordPrefect_NZ> yo | |
| <ajmitch> hello | |
| <Plug> (I don't have much to say) | |
| <ajmitch> neither do I, I'm too busy stuffing up debian | |
| <karora> Evenin' all! | |
| <ajmitch> hey karora | |
| <ajmitch> how's it going? | |
| <karora> Good. I think. | |
| * ajmitch was just thinking about catalyst about 2 minutes ago :) | |
| <karora> My son (6 yrs) just asked me if anyone at work knows I am a geek... | |
| <ajmitch> haha | |
| <ajmitch> did you tell him you're surrounded by them? | |
| <karora> No: I got on the work IRC channel and asked :-) | |
| <ajmitch> having an IRC channel for work says a lot | |
| <karora> Yeah, I guess. Having one with 29 people on it at 7:00pm starts to get silly! | |
| <ajmitch> heh | |
| <ajmitch> tell me, do you guys do server hosting there? | |
| <karora> Well, yes, but not so much at the moment because we are starting to overload the building substation. | |
| <ajmitch> heh right | |
| <ajmitch> we're just looking at other places for leased servers for work | |
| <karora> What we really do is write applications, most of which are web-based these days. | |
| <karora> And we end up hosting them. | |
| <karora> So the clients we are hosting for tend to have 10-20 servers in some highly secure arrangement designed to survive a volcanic attack. Or something. | |
| <ajmitch> yeah, we write web apps | |
| <karora> Who are you with? | |
| <ajmitch> but we're not big enough to host them ourselves | |
| * ajmitch works for equillia, down in dunedin | |
| <ajmitch> really it's just 1 web app that we do :) | |
| <karora> Well, back in 98 we weren't big enough to host them ourselves, but we did anyway. Wellington has it's advantages. | |
| <ajmitch> we use hosting providers up in auckland, a couple of dedicated servers up there | |
| <ajmitch> dunedin isn't as well setup for it | |
| <karora> We have some racks in Auckland for failover stuff. | |
| * ajmitch wouldn't mind moving to wellington though | |
| <karora> We're currently arranging extra overflow space for hosting outside of our main facility. | |
| <karora> Moving yourself to Wellington, or just your hosting? | |
| <ajmitch> myself, mainly | |
| <ajmitch> though hosting for work would be good | |
| <karora> Right. | |
| <karora> mattb: Are WorldXChange doing v6 over ADSL then? Anything special there? Are they peering in the V6IX? | |
| <mattb> they have a tunnel to sprint | |
| <mattb> not sure about V6IX status | |
| <mattb> and they're not offering it by default to customers | |
| <mattb> you have to know who to talk to in their NOC as the helpdesk goes | |
| <mattb> "What is IPv6?" | |
| <ajmitch> interesting | |
| <karora> I guess we'll find out soon then. We should be on V6IX by the end of the week. I've got my nameserver up on V6 now. | |
| * ajmitch is still just using the aarnet broker | |
| <mattb> but their network is v6 enabled throughout, and as I understand it they're keen to offer it more widely if there is demand | |
| <karora> OK. Well we may well be talking to them about v6 connectivity soon. | |
| <karora> Tunnel brokers are fine, but eventually it won't be enough. | |
| <ajmitch> hm, they're also quite a bit cheaper than maxnet for dsl too | |
| * karora has to nip off... | |
| <ajmitch> almost worth me switching | |
| <mattb> heh | |
| <mattb> unfortunately we're shifting this weekend | |
| <mattb> so I loose my DSL connection :( | |
| <mattb> only a few more days of v6 goodness for me | |
| <ajmitch> ah | |
| <ajmitch> where are you off to? | |
| <mattb> Hamilton for a month | |
| <mattb> then Ireland | |
| <ajmitch> right | |
| <ajmitch> not the UK yet? | |
| <mattb> Ireland instead of the UK | |
| <ajmitch> ok | |
| <ajmitch> just as we gain another DD in NZ, we lose you | |
| <ajmitch> planning to work there for awhile? | |
| <mattb> who have we just gained? | |
| <ajmitch> well, you | |
| <mattb> heh, right | |
| <ajmitch> though it's not "just" gained anymore | |
| <mattb> yeah, I'll be over there for at least 2 years | |
| <mattb> I'm still a "NZ" developer, just temporarily relocated elsewhere | |
| <ajmitch> good :) | |
| <mattb> karora: http://v6ix.nzix.net/ looking glasses | |
| <mattb> show 2001:e20::/32 | |
| <mattb> at both APE and WIX | |
| <mattb> (2001:e20::/32 being wxc) | |
| <ajmitch> I presume not many people are peering on V6IX yet | |
| <mattb> I've yet to find someone to talk to on it | |
| <ajmitch> maybe I should put some v6 addresses on the servers at work | |
| <karora> Oh. Well, Hamilton may not be so great, but looking at the comments on my blog you'd think everywhere in Europe had easy IPv6 connectivity and wonder why more people don't just use it! | |
| <karora> ajmitch: Who's the new DD in NZ? | |
| <karora> Francois? | |
| <karora> Oh. I see. | |
| <karora> Well, we're gaining another one in April. And I think Paul Waite is a newer NZ DD than mattb is... | |
| <ajmitch> true, paul probably is | |
| <ajmitch> importing another one in april? | |
| <karora> Yep. Well he's importing himself, and then he thought he might need a job when he gets here. | |
| <ajmitch> great | |
| <ajmitch> as expected, traceroute to your server goes via the US | |
| <karora> ajmitch: We can do a tunnel to you if you want. Or to a Dunedin ISP, if you can find some interest. | |
| <ajmitch> I don't think it's too critical | |
| <karora> We've got 733 IPv6 BGP routes, but our main tunnel terminates in the US. We have another one to a Perth ISP (because he asked). | |
| <ajmitch> lathiat? :) | |
| <karora> Well we want to make it well-connected because there will be the first .nz DNS on there. | |
| <karora> s/first/first IPv6/ of course | |
| <ajmitch> I guess the perth isp would be bur.st | |
| <karora> 45ru | |
| <ajmitch> ok | |
| <karora> Trent Lloyd | |
| <ajmitch> yeah, that's lathiat | |
| <karora> Right. | |
| <ajmitch> my laptop really doesn't like me tonight | |
| <karora> Ah, yes. I see bur.st & 45ru seem to definitely be the same. | |
| <ajmitch> one problem with ipv6, is that too many people find that it can make things awfully slow | |
| <karora> Right. Which is why I am trying to arrange for either native v6 connectivity, or v4 tunnels, or both (selectively). | |
| <karora> I was surprised how many people actually had < 400mS ping to NZ over v6 | |
| <ajmitch> compared to my >800ms to your server | |
| <karora> Currently we're lining up for a tunnel to ISC and a native connection to the V6IX. | |
| <frup> no one talking? :P | |
| <ajmitch> nope | |
| <mattb> frup: we were earlier! | |
| <mattb> it's been one of the more vocal nights in recent history | |
| <ajmitch> even vaguely on the topic of ubuntu | |
| <frup> awesome | |
| <ajmitch> though this channel seems to have tended to collect more developers (at least people that have stayed around) | |
| <frup> what time is it usually busy? | |
| <frup> 6-8ish? | |
| <ajmitch> there's no usual time here | |
| <frup> okie | |
| <frup> are you fellas Aucklanders? | |
| <ajmitch> nope | |
| <ajmitch> dunedin | |
| <frup> wow many linux users down their? | |
| <ajmitch> there are a few | |
| <ajmitch> we even have running water & electricity down this way | |
| <frup> HAHA... didnt mean it like that... just not met many in Auckland... so figured tere might be less in dunners. sorry about the spelling/grammar i'm tired and incoherent. | |
| <mattb> DUnedin is ahead of the rest of NZ in Linux steez | |
| <mattb> they'd have their own international linux conference... | |
| <purserj> well they had to borrow ours ;) | |
| <elkbuntu> lol | |
| <mattb> touche :p | |
| <Plug> < karora> Oh. Well, Hamilton may not be so great | |
| <Plug> take it back! | |
| <ajmitch> heh | |
| <ajmitch> can't say I've spent much time in hamilton :) | |
| <Plug> I just like it cos I'm here | |
| <Plug> it's a sort of blind patriotic | |
| <ajmitch> yeah | |
| <ajmitch> same with dunedin |