| <Phlosten> is xp losing its support in 2 years? | |
| <yama> I bet they'll be forced to extend it, like with win98 | |
| <rob_melb> its better than whats replacing it | |
| <bimberi> Windows XP Home and Media Center I think. Not sure about Professional | |
| <Phlosten> great article elkbuntu | |
| <Phlosten> a small grammar error but otherwise top notch | |
| <Phlosten> is it on digg yet? | |
| <bimberi> From "the horse's mouth": http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-gb&x=16&y=12&C2=1173 | |
| <Phlosten> the whole lot | |
| <apokryphos> ok, ubot3 now has ubugtu powers :) | |
| <bimberi> !lart apokryphos | |
| <apokryphos> ah, but not Lart :P | |
| <bimberi> pfft :) | |
| <apokryphos> could perhaps get that in too | |
| <apokryphos> bug i.e. bug 3 | |
| <ubot3> Malone bug 3 in rosetta "Custom links for each translation team." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3 | |
| <bimberi> ah, yes, great | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, wd on the article. | |
| <bimberi> apokryphos: thanks | |
| <bimberi> bug 1 | |
| <ubot3> Malone bug 1 in ichthux "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | |
| <apokryphos> np ;) | |
| <Phlosten> bug 2 | |
| <apokryphos> elkbuntu: yeah, sweet stuff :) | |
| <apokryphos> Phlosten: doesn't exist. | |
| <Phlosten> aww | |
| <apokryphos> ok, now I'm off to bed :) | |
| <bimberi> ichthux? | |
| <lisapc> hello | |
| <tuppa> morning | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hi tuppa | |
| <tuppa> hey Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <TigerWolf> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~lbrash/msjokes/win2kshutdown.gif | |
| <lisapc> morn' | |
| <lisapc> i thought Ozemail want broke? | |
| <yama> lisapc: they were bought by iinet | |
| <lisapc> ahh | |
| <lisapc> i joined optus | |
| <tuppa> oh dear, that page is so last centure | |
| <tuppa> century, rather | |
| <lisapc> oh dear? I havent heard a bloke use that terminology since I was a kid | |
| <lisapc> tuppa you female? | |
| <romana> time to reuse it then, bring it back to life | |
| <tuppa> lisapc: no | |
| <purserj> okay who decided to make ubuntu-desktop depend on compiz? | |
| <tuppa> a gentoo saboteur | |
| <lisapc> tuppa ok :) its just i never heard a bloke say "oh dear" since i heard a 5 year old boy say it. | |
| <lisapc> tuppa i bet u picked that up from your mother | |
| <lisapc> :) | |
| <purserj> tuppa: at least with gentoo you can say USE="-compiz" emerge desktop | |
| <purserj> or something similar | |
| <bimberi> purserj: where? feisty? | |
| <purserj> bimberi: yeah | |
| * bimberi goggles | |
| <purserj> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371700 | |
| <tuppa> lisapc: I don't recall my mum says anything like that in chinese either | |
| <romana> lol | |
| <romana> i say it all the time | |
| <romana> ilso say oh my | |
| <lisapc> tuppa ok | |
| <lisapc> oh dear is very femine | |
| <tuppa> perhaps my inner female is taking over | |
| <romana> lisapc: meh, what is all this? | |
| <lisapc> prhaps ") | |
| <romana> who cares?:) | |
| <lisapc> romana i take it that is a rhetorical question | |
| <bimberi> purserj: hm, not showing up here http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/metapackages/ubuntu-desktop | |
| <romana> perhaps:) | |
| <lisapc> romana once a person develops empathic skills, they realise that what one person doesnt care about, others may care about :) | |
| <romana> and other people just develop better manners:) | |
| <purserj> bimberi: have you run sudo apt-cache rdepends desktop-effects ? | |
| <purserj> I just did and it came up as the first poster | |
| <purserj> did | |
| <lisapc> romana in diff cultures, what some believe are manners, others consider rude! manners is relative | |
| <bimberi> purserj: no, i'm away from my feisty install at | |
| <romana> true. and it evolves | |
| <bimberi> ... the moment | |
| <tuppa> lisapc: although phrases like "fuck you" is pretty absolute | |
| <tuppa> no I don't mean that to you | |
| <tuppa> :p | |
| * purserj watches the CoC meltdown | |
| <tuppa> CoC? | |
| * tuppa is starved | |
| <purserj> Ubuntu Code Of Conduct | |
| <lisapc> tuppa those words may mean differently in diff languages. eg. in swedish the word for corner is cun# | |
| <romana> not just languges | |
| <tuppa> interesting... | |
| <romana> its cultures within societies | |
| <lisapc> tuppa so phrases like "fuck you" is still relative to language | |
| <lisapc> tuppa eg, fuck in swedish means sleave | |
| <tuppa> well, I don't think that means "good fortune" in Chinese, so Chinese is out | |
| <lisapc> sleave in a wallet for example | |
| <tuppa> ;) | |
| <tuppa> anyway | |
| <tuppa> that reminds me of the town of "Fucking" in Austria | |
| <lisapc> tuppa so the word "fuck" can mean a sleve in a wallet to some people. so its not absolute, but relative | |
| <tuppa> I'm convinced | |
| <lisapc> tuppa ty :) | |
| <lisapc> then my job is done ;) hhee | |
| <lisapc> :-) | |
| * romana is impressed:) | |
| <romana> you need a sidekick mate | |
| <lisapc> lol | |
| <lisapc> my front karate kick is good enough ;) | |
| <purserj> welcome to contextual communications, its a wonderful thing that the human race discovered oh about several thousand years ago | |
| <lisapc> no need for a side kick ;) | |
| <lisapc> purserj its imperative to contexualise :) | |
| <romana> purserj: its how societies survive and evolve | |
| <tuppa> but it's often amusing with (deliberately) dropping context | |
| <romana> with other factors | |
| <romana> tuppa: thats just fun then;) | |
| <tuppa> anyway, gotta run | |
| <tuppa> ahve to go fix boss' imac | |
| <romana> ttfn | |
| <lisapc> tuppa bye | |
| <lisapc> come back soon pls :) | |
| <lisapc> romana is Internode expensive? | |
| <romana> i guess its relative | |
| <lisapc> true true :) | |
| <romana> i wouldnt say cheap | |
| <lisapc> whats your quota? | |
| <romana> i hve 40gb ads2+ | |
| <romana> 79.95/mth | |
| <lisapc> 20gig oper month? | |
| <lisapc> more? | |
| <romana> 40gb cap | |
| <lisapc> any other expenses? | |
| <romana> no | |
| <romana> we had our own wireless modem | |
| <lisapc> i have adsl2+ 60gig per month, $69.95 | |
| <lisapc> free modem, free connection | |
| <lisapc> 2 months free | |
| <romana> it also gives us access to wireless network aound city | |
| <lisapc> sounds good | |
| <romana> but the service is amaing, no issues, huge supprt | |
| <lisapc> i heard Internode are great | |
| <lisapc> yet its relative :) | |
| <romana> they grok linux *bliss* | |
| <MistaED> hey is anyone running feisty in here? | |
| <romana> http://www.internode.on.net/adsl/pricing/home.php | |
| <romana> MistaED: yes | |
| <lisapc> we are not feisty people :) | |
| <lisapc> we are good descent ppl here ;) | |
| <MistaED> romana: did it break when xorg 7.2 came in? :) | |
| <romana> xorg 7.2 is being implemented in bits | |
| <MistaED> yeah i've been following that on a machine i don't care about, it's really fun | |
| <romana> its ony just fully in s of today | |
| <romana> pprently beryl and compi shld be funky now | |
| <MistaED> cool, funky as in faster&better or funky as in broken? :) | |
| <romana> funky s in working;) | |
| <romana> lisapc: does this men i m indecent? | |
| <MistaED> well the nvidia driver keeps breaking, i guess i should wait for the nvidia driver to update | |
| <romana> mean even, my a key is sticky | |
| <romana> COOL, indecent | |
| <romana> my kids wont believe it:) | |
| <lisapc> romana decentsy is relative | |
| <romana> i have lots of relatives | |
| <romana> speaking of, master 3 needs nap | |
| <romana> ttfn:) | |
| <twisties> afternoon | |
| <Phlosten> hooley dooley, just started pouring with rain here | |
| <bimberi> good to hear | |
| <bimberi> er, read :) | |
| <bimberi> Phlosten: There's a severe thunderstorm warning out (includes Dubbo): http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65156.shtml | |
| <Phlosten> 40kmh winds | |
| <Phlosten> bimberi, just spotted that | |
| <Phlosten> bbs, gonna shut these machines down until storm passes | |
| <shenki> any linux-aus mail list moderators about? | |
| <kgoetz> shenki: hi mate. still going to airstream? | |
| <shenki> kgoetz: depends. might be going to meet this girl i'm seeing's parents :S | |
| <shenki> hehe, if i have it my way, you know where i'll be :) | |
| <kgoetz> shenki: lol. good luck :P | |
| <bimberi> +1 :) | |
| <shenki> kgoetz: you coming down for it? | |
| <bimberi> shenki: how did it go with Red? | |
| <kgoetz> shenki: your girls parents? sorry, but no :P | |
| <shenki> bimberi: awesome. apart from being bumped off the show and having to do a recorded interview, even tho i was up at 6am | |
| <shenki> kgoetz: :P | |
| <shenki> bimberi: he was pretty cool. had a bit of a chat afterwards. he joked about how he owns a macbook but annoys everyone by running windows on it | |
| <kgoetz> shenki: :P yes i'm goig to airstream | |
| <shenki> bimberi: i said to him "what, if you're going to run something else on a macbook why not linux?" | |
| <bimberi> :) | |
| <shenki> and he replied that he'd love to, but because of the high end multimedia stuff he runs - his example was 3dstudio max - it's hard to stay away from the "proprietary os's" (his word, i was impressed :) | |
| <bimberi> shenki: He's a pretty smart fellow. Must be the surname ;) | |
| <bimberi> Has the interview been aired yet? | |
| * shenki whois' you :) i see | |
| <bimberi> :) | |
| <shenki> bimberi: nah. and im not sure when it will be. i spoke to the media bloke from adelaide uni who's been handling all of the contacting media for me, and he's going to try to grab a mp3 of the interview | |
| <shenki> i imagine that it will be aired tomorrow morning | |
| <bimberi> no (known) relation btw | |
| <shenki> oh, and when i told people that it was sydney, i was fed false info - his radio show is on melb abc | |
| <bimberi> shenki: cool | |
| <purserj> shenki: did you point the 3dstudio guy at blender? | |
| <shenki> purserj: ahhh! don't say that! i sat there and thought he was making a good point, because when he said multimedia i was getting ready to retort about all the music editing apps that linux has | |
| <shenki> but when he said 3ds, i was at a loss | |
| <shenki> but as soon as i got off the phone, i thought BLENDER! | |
| <shenki> but oh well | |
| <bimberi> shenki: tuppa pointed to another OLPC thing on the radio earlier (in #linux-aus)... | |
| <bimberi> 11:13 < tuppa> http://www.abc.net.au/rn/lifematters/default.htm | |
| <shenki> oh, awesome. thanks bimberi | |
| <bimberi> np | |
| <Phlosten> neato | |
| <shenki> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_in_the_News - if you notice anything else | |
| <shenki> add it in | |
| <bimberi> righto | |
| <phlasphy> i have a question | |
| <phlasphy> any1 here? | |
| <kgoetz> not unles you ask the question | |
| <phlasphy> ok | |
| <phlasphy> well is it posible to have 2 bradband connections | |
| <phlasphy> 2 adsl connections | |
| <kgoetz> yes, if you have two phonelines | |
| <phlasphy> ok | |
| <phlasphy> how much would it cost to get a second phone line? | |
| <kgoetz> probably 30/mo (but i wouldnt know) | |
| <phlasphy> ok | |
| <phlasphy> also | |
| <phlasphy> how do i go about building a ubuntu computer | |
| <phlasphy> i dont want all the packaged stuff just wat i chose | |
| <kgoetz> then once its installed remove what you dont want. | |
| <Hobbsee> do a server install | |
| <pschulz01> Greetings. Is there a equivalent to the CentOS/Redhat 'authconfig' command in Ubuntu? | |
| <phlasphy> ok | |
| <Hobbsee> actually, do an advanced install (with the alternate cd) and go thru and pick everything | |
| <pschulz01> I am after an easy (painless) way to configure LDAP authentication. | |
| <kgoetz> hi pschulz01 | |
| <phlasphy> also is it possible to get adsl 2 on a adsl one exchange | |
| <phlasphy> just at lower speeds | |
| <kgoetz> hi Hobbsee | |
| <Hobbsee> heya kgoetz | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <kgoetz> phlasphy: no, but some providers will give you adsl2 plans until the exchange is enabled | |
| <phlasphy> what kgoetz | |
| * kgoetz watches a fly clean its wings | |
| * bimberi watches another Thunderstorm | |
| <bimberi> nicely timed for the ride home | |
| * kgoetz watches himself get closer to killing *either* the guy who put dhcp on a 3 minute lease time, or the ubuntu dev who made dhclient work even when a static ip is set | |
| <kgoetz> bimberi: wonderful :\ | |
| <kgoetz> bimberi: is it a long drive/trip? | |
| <bimberi> kgoetz: 8.5km, 25min | |
| <bimberi> when it's been so dry it's a pleasure to ride in the rain though :) | |
| <kgoetz> bimberi: tehn i asume you dont carry electronics while riding :) | |
| <bimberi> kgoetz: phone goes in the lunchbox :) | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: Howdy.. I'm trying to install a DELL 1U with a RAID controller..:-/ | |
| <kgoetz> pschulz01: not making you happy? :| | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: Can I watch you? | |
| <kgoetz> watch me do what? | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: The 'live' bit boots OK, but somehow the installation needs to be on either /dev/md0 or /dev/sda2.. | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: killing dhcp people. | |
| <kgoetz> pschulz01: well... i suppose so | |
| <kgoetz> i thought md0 ws software raid? | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: Yeah.. there was a previous Debian install on the box which used /dev/md0 | |
| <kgoetz> oh | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: After my aborted install it still trys and enven gets futher than the Ubuntu.. | |
| * kgoetz hasnt dealt with raid controllers mucdh | |
| <pschulz01> I would love to just set it to 'show me a single device, I don't care' mode, | |
| <kgoetz> i'm supprised you cant | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: I just need to find the option. | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: It's called raid 0. | |
| <kgoetz> hm. i'm having issues with wireless. wheres deans laptop when i need to copy a working example :| | |
| <Daemon> if it's a real RAID controller you'll only see one device | |
| <cafuego_> Only if it's supported | |
| <cafuego_> it cna still be real, but show *no* devices | |
| <Daemon> haven't run into too many that aren't supported these days, especially in the Dell / HP / IBM ranges | |
| <kgoetz> hi kingkarlos | |
| <kingkarlos> Hey guys. | |
| <siccness> Evening mate. | |
| <kingkarlos> Can anybody recomend a VoIP app that works well with laggy wireless routers? | |
| <kgoetz> hey siccness | |
| <siccness> Hey champ | |
| * kgoetz has 40 min to kill :\ | |
| <siccness> <--Has 50mins to kill | |
| <kgoetz> :/ | |
| <kingkarlos> Haha. 2 hours till the gf gets home :-) | |
| <kgoetz> kingkarlos: then entertain us! | |
| <siccness> ^^ | |
| <kingkarlos> I'm going to be shifting my parents to ubuntu this weekend. | |
| <kingkarlos> Maybe | |
| <siccness> Cool | |
| <kingkarlos> I've managed to get one of the guys at work fairly up to speed with linux too. | |
| <kingkarlos> He's been using it for about 6 months now. And he can compile and eggdrop, and even dist-upgraded to feisty with a little help | |
| <kgoetz> i was speaking to a guy from teh local paper earlier - he might be able to do an article on itshares shipment of computesr (running ubuntu) to garoka | |
| <kgoetz> eggdrop? the bot? | |
| <kingkarlos> Yeah. :-) | |
| <kgoetz> mmm. | |
| <kingkarlos> He just uses it to monitor some efnet channels. | |
| * kgoetz actions | |
| <kingkarlos> My parents have been telling people they use linux because they have firefox and thunderbird running in windows. Lol | |
| <kgoetz> kingkarlos: how close do you live to your parents? | |
| <kingkarlos> Half hour away | |
| <kgoetz> yeh, thats far enough to stick to phone desktop support | |
| <kingkarlos> I can also use vnc to help them too. | |
| <kgoetz> if your into that sort of thing | |
| <kingkarlos> I use it to their windows pc's already | |
| <kingkarlos> I'd like to see pgp support in gmail without having to resort to evolution or thunderbird though | |
| <kgoetz> gmail... hm. i should close my account | |
| <kingkarlos> no likey? | |
| <siccness> I was thinking of closing my gmail account, until I realised it was my msn passport email thingy | |
| <kgoetz> kingkarlos: dont use it. (apart from google jabber) | |
| <kingkarlos> I like it's spam filtering. Pretty accurate for my usage. | |
| <kgoetz> cant comment :) | |
| <siccness> spam rocks | |
| <siccness> where else do you get free advertising for viagra pills at $1.99 USD each?! | |
| * kgoetz chants spam spam spam spam wonderful spam | |
| <kgoetz> etc | |
| <kgoetz> siccness: i dont know what they are usualy, so it doesnt really help me ;P | |
| <siccness> $50 a pop | |
| <kingkarlos> My doc gives me good bulk discounts. | |
| <kgoetz> siccness: so to speak? :P | |
| <siccness> kgoetz: :) | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <siccness> *cough*no-comment*cough* | |
| <kgoetz> lol | |
| <kgoetz> ta ta blokes. see you in a few hours (up to 5) | |
| <siccness> Looks like I might be booting into the windows box tonight | |
| <Phlosten> evenin all | |
| <merlin-linux> evening all | |
| <henno> hmm.. I need a new job | |
| * henno hits seek | |
| <henno> what a joke... "The ideal applicant should be degree qualified in journalism, PR, Marketing or a related field and have 1-2 years experience in PR, Communications and Marketing." | |
| <henno> offering a whopping $35k | |
| <Phlosten> henno, hmm | |
| <Phlosten> is that with cheapskate media? | |
| <Phlosten> :) | |
| <henno> Phlosten: tell me about it. Uni degree plus 2 years industry exp, and they offer 'Woolies Wages'? | |
| <Phlosten> woolies wages is spot on, cause i been there ;) | |
| <henno> I think even at woolies you would have a hard time earning less than $35k as a full-time adult waged worker | |
| <henno> $17.71/hr apparently | |
| <Phlosten> i was a fullt-time manager on about that money | |
| <henno> (38 hours per week, 52 weeks per year) | |
| <Phlosten> worked out about $2 an hour once you factored in the rediculous hours | |
| <henno> My mate was a Grocery Manager at Coles, same deal. He was on $40-odd thousand, but had to work 7am-6pm 6+ days a week, plus have the pager 24hours a day in case an alarm went off | |
| <henno> stuff. that. shit | |
| <Phlosten> yeah, slave labour | |
| <henno> meanwhile I am still working right now, and I started at 7am-ish | |
| <henno> hence... "18:45 <henno> hmm.. I need a new job" | |
| <Phlosten> heh | |
| <Phlosten> i am a domestic engineer these days :D | |
| <henno> but thanks to the wonders of citrix and/or VPN I can do it from the comfort of home with a beer in hand :) | |
| <Phlosten> nice | |
| <Phlosten> the wonders of the modern day world | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I'm building a desktop machine dammit. I'm sick of not having one. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Also hello. | |
| <Phlosten> openoffice is cool | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why? | |
| <Phlosten> just ask my wife how to do some special formatting stuff in open office, she has oodles of training with MSOffice and it took her seconds to work out how to do it with OO | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I need a Socket AM2 Sempron, none on ebay :( | |
| <Phlosten> ebay seems a bit slow the last few days | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Worldwide or au? | |
| <Phlosten> just au, as in lack of listings | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah it has actually. I can't find the mobo I want at a decent price | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> In au anyway. | |
| <Phlosten> i do believe i need a coffee, brb | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Be nice if no one bidded on this one: http://tinyurl.com/35wfvz | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> A 64bit Athlon for <$2! | |
| <Phlosten> heh | |
| <yama> Davo_Dinkum: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=17377 <-- try this mobo | |
| <Phlosten> sweet | |
| <Phlosten> hopefully a sign of more to come | |
| <henno> there are more that have already come | |
| <henno> it is just this is the first to be 'officially' supported | |
| <henno> there are others that work just fine | |
| <Phlosten> always nice to see officially supported models, especially for business | |
| <henno> oh I completely agree | |
| <Phlosten> i can't wait to see Dell laptops available in aus with linux as an option | |
| <henno> I've just spotted a dozen or so stories around the traps that this is the first ever motherboard that an open bios has worked on | |
| <henno> I predict that Dell offer the linux laptops with little or no rebate for the "microsoft tax" | |
| <henno> when in reality they should one or two hundred bucks cheaper | |
| <Phlosten> again its not so much about the costs. its about buying a notebook that you know will work | |
| <henno> you can buy a laptop right now that 100% works | |
| <henno> the issue is you have to buy a windows license to get the thing | |
| <henno> which I do not agree with at all | |
| <Phlosten> yeah I know, but a supplier officially supporting it sends a nice message to business | |
| <henno> agreed | |
| <henno> if only Lenovo would go the same route, I might be able to get work to agree to buy me one :) | |
| <Phlosten> i'm in the market for a notebook | |
| <MistaED> http://www.dellideastorm.com/ i really like the look of this list, the majority of the list is promoting open source/linux :) | |
| <Phlosten> yeah | |
| <henno> that site sure has been highjacked by we linux/FOSS people | |
| <Phlosten> it's in out nature | |
| <Phlosten> our | |
| <MistaED> will there be an intel version of that motherboard that gigabyte made with linuxbios? i'd rather upgrade to a core2 than am2 | |
| <Phlosten> grab it, digg it, slashdot it, blog it... | |
| <Phlosten> we are digging, slashdotting, bloggin MS out the door | |
| <MistaED> love that, "circus-ware" | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> An Athlon is overkill for me. All I need is a Sempron | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hmm 512mb of DDR2 SDRAM is pretty cheap | |
| <siccness> $39 | |
| <siccness> (Generic, PC4200) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Ah generic | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I was looking at kingston | |
| <siccness> You want some decent modules man | |
| * Davo_Dinkum should buy a non-generic PSU for his PC | |
| <siccness> some sexy Corsair | |
| <siccness> OCZ | |
| <siccness> GeIL | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Are they all brands? | |
| <siccness> Yup | |
| <siccness> Hey hey, firefox 2.0.0.2 crashed, AGAIN. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I thought 2.0.0.1 was the latest. | |
| <siccness> *.2 came out 2 days ago or so | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Iceweasel doesn't have a crash recovery thingy. Found that out the hard way. | |
| <siccness> Anyways, back in 5. Gotta reboot into Windows | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Poor siccy | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> For a mobo, CPU+RAM is about $400 so far | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> +$50 for a PSU | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Pretty good | |
| <Phlosten> sweet | |
| <Phlosten> just tried a windows app under wine, working perfectly | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Anyone know of a DBAN like utility that will boot on oldworld mac clone? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yes, xp is sicc. | |
| <sicc-xp> ahh good lord, it's hideous! | |
| <sicc-xp> my eyes, my beautiful eyes! | |
| * Phlosten gets the shotgun | |
| <sicc-xp> Phlosten: one between the eyes, please. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> switch back to fisher price mode, did you? | |
| <sicc-xp> Davo_Dinkum: Not even Jesus himself can understand how to switch | |
| <Phlosten> fisher price mode...heh, i love it | |
| <sicc-xp> time to have fun in vmware :D | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Phlosten: Ewww how could you | |
| <sicc-xp> ADMs baby! | |
| <Phlosten> no, i dont actually, like 'it', i just like the term | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ADM? | |
| <Phlosten> havent heard it before | |
| <sicc-xp> Davo_Dinkum: .adm files | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Phlosten: Yeah I read it in a review I think | |
| <Phlosten> Advanced Destroyer of Microsoft? | |
| <sicc-xp> Close to it. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> aka RMS | |
| <sicc-xp> Administration Templates or something | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Administration for idiots hey? | |
| <Phlosten> plug and plug admin | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *play? | |
| <sicc-xp> wheres my damn music | |
| <Phlosten> yeah | |
| <sicc-xp> wheres mpd, irssi | |
| <Phlosten> that | |
| <sicc-xp> this sucks this | |
| <Phlosten> for those that are really concerned about security ;) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Use vista? | |
| <sicc-xp> ahh, memory leak! | |
| <sicc-xp> argh!! | |
| <sicc-xp> it's diseased! | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> sicc-xp: Block your ears | |
| <Phlosten> sicc-xp, i hear yah, i installed xp on my other machine the other week. | |
| <Phlosten> i ripped it off yesterday | |
| <Phlosten> it's vmware or nothing from now on | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> will xp install on 64mb ram? | |
| <sicc-xp> How I managed to put up with this crap for 10 years, I will never know. | |
| <sicc-xp> Davo_Dinkum: Probably not. | |
| <sicc-xp> It'll probably hit you with a BSoD | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yay! a BSod! | |
| <sicc-xp> and then display a bunch of random characters that doesn't help you for troubleshotting | |
| * Davo_Dinkum is excited by the prospect of bsoding xp | |
| <sicc-xp> in which you will rely on google to assist you in finding a solution, but unfortunately, no one will have ever experienced such a problem | |
| <sicc-xp> and thus leaving you at the point of "what the fawk" | |
| <Phlosten> wish that thing got straight to the point 'Hey, Your Computer Is Toast! REBOOT!' | |
| <MotherLUG> http://radio.localfoss.org:8000/osota.ogg.m3u .Elevator music until we start at 9.30pm AEDST (UTC+1100) | |
| <Phlosten> maybe 'Don't bother googling this error message, not even god can help you now!' | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> my stupid usb key has some 'U3' software rubbish on it, that insists on taking over management of the usb key whenever i plug it into an xp machine | |
| <Phlosten> Davo_Dinkum, time to format it? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Phlosten: Tried, oh how I tried | |
| <Phlosten> hehe | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> and of course, i can't just delete/format it, it's on a fancy read only partition that shows up as a CDROM drive. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> friggin high and mighty on it's read only partition throne | |
| <sicc-xp> how do you get rid of this blue shit? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> can i uninstall it? of course, but only when using windows XP!! | |
| <Phlosten> 'tonight on LocalFoss, the story of man and his horrible journey to try and format his beloved USB key' | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL | |
| <Phlosten> rated MA15+ | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> beloved? Might wanna refrase that | |
| <sicc-xp> Phlosten: that and "the great sicc and his horrible journey to try and remove this blue xp crap" | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Like 'P.O.S.' | |
| <Phlosten> :D | |
| <sicc-xp> i clicked "classic mode" and "OK" | |
| <sicc-xp> but it's still blue, wtf? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> sicc-xp: right click my comp and go properties | |
| <Phlosten> you gotta change the performance crap | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Phlosten: Yeah that's it | |
| <sicc-xp> Davo_Dinkum: that gets me to a bunch of tabs that state nothing about nothing really | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> sicc-xp: Under the 'advanced' tab I think | |
| <Phlosten> 'optimise my setting for best performance' also know as 'give me back my fricken resources you pig' | |
| <Phlosten> yay, i have a stream | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> sicc-xp: http://support.citrix.com/article/html/images/CTX110996-2.gif <<< Click Settings for the perfomance | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> sAll done? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *All | |
| <Phlosten> aww no | |
| <sicc-xp> oh dear | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ??? | |
| <sicc-xp> media player crashed | |
| <sicc-xp> now, the last time i used windows, everything was fine | |
| <sicc-xp> probably managed to get a virus within the last 10mins | |
| <sicc-xp> pretty cool | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Those virus writers do try hard, good on em | |
| * merlin-linux has a black cherry vodka cruiser | |
| <sicc-xp> merlin-linux: sounds kinda girly man | |
| <merlin-linux> sicc-xp: yeah it is, but it all i got in the fridge after new years eve | |
| * merlin-linux drinks mothers booze | |
| <sicc-xp> sell it on ebay man | |
| <merlin-linux> hehe | |
| <sicc-xp> buy some beer | |
| <merlin-linux> lol | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Can you sell booze on ebay? | |
| <merlin-linux> no | |
| <sicc-xp> Girly booze you can | |
| <Phlosten> sell some Ubuntu CDs with free booze | |
| <sicc-xp> Heh | |
| <merlin-linux> sicc-xp: it tastes not to bad | |
| <sicc-xp> merlin-linux: heh, fair enough. Last time I had vodka pre-mix drinks was on new years. I think me and a mate drank about 18 of those, all the beer was gone. | |
| <sicc-xp> Was a sad time :( | |
| <merlin-linux> hehe, yeah well it a sad time here atm | |
| * merlin-linux forgot to get beer while out | |
| <merlin-linux> damn to busy doing barcamp stuff | |
| <purserj> okay the stream seems to be actually working now | |
| <merlin-linux> and i still got to see some places tomorrow | |
| <merlin-linux> purserj: url please | |
| <purserj> http://radio.localfoss.org:8000 -> Click on "Click To Listen" link - Open Source Graphics Round Table | |
| <sicc-xp> purserj: when she startin? | |
| <purserj> now | |
| <sicc-xp> oh | |
| <purserj> so long as the stream holds out | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> where on earth is my xp cd? | |
| <Phlosten> sicc-xp has it | |
| <sicc-xp> probably on ebay | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> aha. And what version do I have? | |
| <sicc-xp> hey this .adm shit is pretty cool | |
| <MotherLUG> sicc-xp, I'm just back reading. What is girlie booze. If I can get scotch or cognac cheap on ebay woohoo. | |
| <sicc-xp> girly booze, a common term used by males to refer to a drink that is often vodka premixed with some other sugarred up soft-drink | |
| <MotherLUG> not in my books | |
| <cafuego_> Is there anyone here who runs a pptp vpn on Linux? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Are there any cheap mobos on the LinuxBIOS list that are supported? | |
| <cafuego_> Wasn't there a gigabyte somethingorother? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> cafuego_: Yeah, but it's about $200 in aus | |
| <cafuego_> that's fairly reasonable in terms of linuxbios mobos | |
| <cafuego_> what model was it again? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It's a socket AM2, so a CPU is at least $150 | |
| <cafuego_> $150 is *cheap* for a cpu | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> cafuego_: GA-M57SLI-S4 | |
| <yama> http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=M57SLI-S4 | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> yama: Why did you take off the GA- | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ? | |
| <sicc-xp> because the GA just refers to Gigabyte | |
| <yama> because some shops/reviews call it "Gigabyte M57SLI-S4" | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Ah OK | |
| <sicc-xp> Davo_Dinkum: I'd say that gigabyte mobo is your best bet champ | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Probably. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> yama: I can get it from the UK for <$AU140 | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> inc postage | |
| <yama> australia is expensive | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yup | |
| <sicc-xp> Davo_Dinkum: which leaves you jsut about rooted if the product is DOA | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> sicc-xp: How likely is that to happen though? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> sicc-xp: Also get off xp! | |
| <sicc-xp> Not exactly 'likely', but it's still a possibility. | |
| <sicc-xp> I can't get off XP. I would but it's for the sake of learning/understanding .adm files | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Do you need to know that stuff? | |
| <cafuego_> Those search results mention AM2 S940 | |
| <yama> you will need to bleach your HDD clean | |
| <cafuego_> which is kinda retarded | |
| <sicc-xp> Davo_Dinkum: Yeah | |
| <sicc-xp> cafuego: Heh, Socket AM2 or 940, pick one! :D | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> yama: Eh? | |
| <cafuego_> Davo_Dinkum: I've found australia post international from europe manage to effectively crush OR soak 100% of parcels. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Pfft great | |
| <yama> Davo_Dinkum: bleach to remove XP | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> yama: DBAN to the rescue | |
| <cafuego_> That's before customs get their hands on it | |
| <sicc-xp> when does the customs fee kick in? | |
| <sicc-xp> at what value? | |
| * Davo_Dinkum shrugs | |
| <cafuego_> sicc-xp: With the AMD Hammer architecure you can fit an AM2 cpu in a S940 mobo! | |
| <sicc-xp> Davo_Dinkum: seriously, just buy it in in australia | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah true | |
| <cafuego_> sicc-xp: Fee doesn't matter as much as 'em opening it and doing god knows what with it. | |
| <sicc-xp> lol yea | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Off to CSW then. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hmm it doesn't turn up on their site :( | |
| *** cps__ is now known as cps|Zzz | |
| <cafuego_> Davo_Dinkum: Incidentally, a SEMPRON 3000+ AMD2 is only $65 :-) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> cafuego_: Where? Where? | |
| <cafuego_> Davo_Dinkum: scorpion tech | |
| <cafuego_> which means that at CPL it's probably even cheaper | |
| <cafuego_> Hmmno, they don't carry AM2 Semprons | |
| <cafuego_> their cheapest is an X2 3600+ for $135 | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> :( | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> cafuego_: IS that http://www.scorptec.com.au/? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ^^^not loading for me | |
| <cafuego_> hmm | |
| <cafuego_> I think they labeled that wrong | |
| <cafuego_> unless there *are* AM2 semprons | |
| <cafuego_> still, get a decent cpu | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Whereabouts are they? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Isn't a Sempron a decent CPU? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ... | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> cafuego_: ? | |
| <cafuego_> semprons lack cache | |
| <cafuego_> cache is your friend | |
| <cafuego_> Davo_Dinkum: um, vermont-ish somewhere i think | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Pfft where on earth is that? | |
| <cafuego_> 30 mins of freeway/blackburn road south-east | |
| <purserj> Vermont? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Eh too far | |
| <cafuego_> Davo_Dinkum: they do mail tho | |
| <cafuego_> or that place in essendon will be cheaper... what they called again? | |
| <sicc-xp> CPL, where employees get murdered by..well, fellow employees | |
| <cafuego_> oh look | |
| <cafuego_> that happens all the time in west melbourne | |
| <i386> anyone know how to network unlock motorola razr v3's? | |
| * sicc-xp kicks the shit outta .adm | |
| <Phlosten> nice, http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/thirteen-things-to-do-after-you-install-ubuntu-239557.php | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> i386: Can probably get it done for $30 | |
| <cafuego_> i386: Do you need to be able to make calls with it afterward? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Phlosten: Are M$ TrueType Fonts under a free license? | |
| <Phlosten> Davo_Dinkum, yeah, they are downloaded from ms site | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Phlosten: What kind of free? | |
| <Phlosten> dunno | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Eh | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Should I install xfce of xubuntu-desktop | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> ? | |
| <elkbuntu> i386! | |
| * elkbuntu huggles i386 | |
| <sicc-xp> wheres my hug | |
| <sicc-xp> i need a hug | |
| <purserj> sicc-xp: i386 is safe | |
| <sicc-xp> lol | |
| <sicc-xp> yea he aint infected with spyware and viruses | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What things *can't* you do in a shell? | |
| <elkbuntu> yeah, im not hugging no xp user :Þ | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> View pictures/movies? | |
| <sicc-xp> elkbuntu: blame tafe | |
| <elkbuntu> sicc-xp, gladly, but the fact still stands | |
| <sicc-xp> I want a damn snag | |
| <Daemon> blame tafe? just reboot the box with a livecd :) | |
| <sicc-xp> Daemon: I'm at home, trying to learn how to use .adm files | |
| <sicc-xp> Unfortunately, I'm getting absolutely no where | |
| <Daemon> install vmware-server then :) | |
| <sicc-xp> so I might end up being in this environment till my death. | |
| <sicc-xp> Daemon: Yeah that blew up in my face | |
| <Daemon> much, much better setup as you can snapshot things before you make changes | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Err, shell people?^^^ | |
| <Daemon> which you'll need to do if you play with windows administration | |
| <sicc-xp> Daemon: Not me, big sicc never screws up :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> No but windows does | |
| <Daemon> Davo_Dinkum: that's like asking how long is a piece of string | |
| <Daemon> there's lots that a shell can and can't do, depending on what you need | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> View JPEGs for example | |
| <Daemon> sicc-xp: you just mentioned you're getting nowhere, doesn't mix well when you say you never screw up :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Without x running | |
| <Daemon> get an ascii converter :) | |
| <purserj> Davo_Dinkum: simple get a jpeg to ascii converter | |
| <sicc-xp> Daemon: It's more along the lines of "hell, im half wasted here, let's just go with trial and error before actually researching" type of thing. | |
| <purserj> hey you could be an MCSE already | |
| <Daemon> gah, purserj stole my comment | |
| <sicc-xp> not to mention im almost out of bourbon | |
| <sicc-xp> this night just isn't looking good :| | |
| <Daemon> I wanted to know how it was different to normal windows administration | |
| <sicc-xp> Daemon: valid point. | |
| <nrdb> hi all | |
| <sicc-xp> hey mate | |
| * Davo_Dinkum installs xfce | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> bbl | |
| <sicc-xp> Damn it | |
| <sicc-xp> 2hrs of this and i realised I didn't remove a filtering option in the GPOEditor | |
| <elkbuntu> sicc-xp, you werent drunk enough to figure it out? | |
| <sicc-xp> Clearly. It's becoming a common occurance. The more sober I am, the less productive I am. | |
| <sicc-xp> Perhaps I should go to TAFE with a slab of beer. | |
| <praetorian> um | |
| <praetorian> sicc | |
| <praetorian> are you shit? | |
| <praetorian> er | |
| <praetorian> sick | |
| <sicc-xp> lol | |
| <praetorian> look | |
| <praetorian> just like i told the guy in high school | |
| <praetorian> self mutilation does not help anybody | |
| <sicc-xp> Oh | |
| <sicc-xp> I was under the impression it did | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Damn xfce is nice | |
| <praetorian> well cut your penis off and see if you feel better | |
| <praetorian> :P | |
| <praetorian> davo, of course | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Go try it everyone | |
| <sicc-xp> xfce blows | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> sicc-xp: Which version? | |
| <praetorian> quiet xp boy | |
| <sicc-xp> Davo_Dinkum: cant remember, but it sucked | |
| <yama> xfce rules | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> sicc-xp: Give it another shot. It's improved dramatically. | |
| * praetorian was using 4.4 beta and just upgraded to 4.4 release | |
| <sicc-xp> I like OB | |
| <praetorian> tho i havent restarted x since doing that | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> praetorian: Nice? | |
| <praetorian> its sok | |
| <elkbuntu> Davo_Dinkum, by 'another shot' you mean he should consume 'another shot' of bourbon? ;) | |
| <praetorian> ive been using xfce for a while, so was good to see some improvements of things that annoyed me | |
| <praetorian> sounds good | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> elkbuntu: No I wouldn't recommend that. | |
| <praetorian> where shot glass means schooner | |
| <sicc-xp> who said schooner | |
| <sicc-xp> big man sicc could go a schooner | |
| <praetorian> quiet xp boy | |
| <sicc-xp> :( | |
| * sicc-xp walks off in tears | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> As if | |
| <praetorian> when you grow up | |
| <sicc-xp> I had my first jaigermeister bomb thingy the other night | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Was it da bomb? | |
| <sicc-xp> No, it was possibly the second crappiest drink I've ever had | |
| <sicc-xp> and possibly the second most expensive | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> The mobo is $200 at scorpion tech | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It was about 160 on staticice i think | |
| <elkbuntu> yama, haha @ 'save our planet'. first bandaid, then coolaid now what? blogaid? | |
| <praetorian> poweraid | |
| <yama> elkbuntu: well, it's being neglected :) | |
| <yama> it needs saving | |
| <elkbuntu> yama, i know, i've been meaning to harp on about it for a while | |
| <elkbuntu> but the moment always gets stolen | |
| <yama> I wanted to raise it at yesterday's meeting, but that didn't happen | |
| <elkbuntu> praetorian, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meeting is what im chuckling at | |
| <elkbuntu> yama, yeah... i forgot it was tuesday yesterday :-/ | |
| <yama> I was going to offer to chair, but we didn't have an agenda anyway | |
| <yama> plus I came late due to the netsplit | |
| <elkbuntu> yama, yeah, that was a heck of a split | |
| <elkbuntu> like 30 mins worth of | |
| <yama> yeah, that was a big netsplit | |
| <yama> I've never seen one like that | |
| <yama> praetorian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings is the correct URL | |
| <elkbuntu> eh | |
| <elkbuntu> fatigue + hayfever + sweat in eyes means im having a great night with typing tonight | |
| <praetorian> its okay, i only wanted one meeting | |
| <praetorian> You are welcome to add any items that you feel should be discussed to the agenda for the next meeting. In the interests of keeping everything neat, please, however, add them as they have been added in the March 2006 meeting: first a half line subject, followed by a short description as a sub-point of the subject, and signing it with your wikiname or irc nick after that... for example... | |
| <praetorian> referring to the march 2006 meeting? :P | |
| <yama> it's just an example | |
| <praetorian> which is right at the bottom of the page? :P | |
| <yama> it should be linked right there | |
| <praetorian> ah true, didnt notice it | |
| <yama> anyways, nighty-night everyone | |
| <praetorian> night honey buns | |
| * yama feels strangely dirty | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Bye peeps | |
| *** cps|Zzz is now known as cps | |
| <lisapc> hi mog | |
| <lisapc> morning Fujitsu | |
| <tuppa> morning | |
| <tuppa> hey lisapc :) | |
| <lisapc> tuppa helo | |
| <tuppa> 250 Hello lisapc | |
| <lisapc> 395 Hello tuppa | |
| <tuppa> bah | |
| <Phlosten> mornin | |
| <tuppa> I thought you were talking SMTP :p | |
| <tuppa> so I replied with an SMTP server return code :p | |
| <tuppa> 08:38 < lisapc> tuppa helo | |
| <tuppa> alright | |
| * tuppa geek mode off | |
| <lisapc> Phlosten morn | |
| <tuppa> how are you this morning lisapc ? | |
| <lisapc> hungry :) | |
| <lisapc> im going to break my fasting . BreakFast :) | |
| <lisapc> brb | |
| <tuppa> good idea | |
| <purserj> okay can someone tell me, is Feisty in feature freeze? | |
| <Phlosten> main is frozen | |
| <purserj> right, so why is my X broken after an update | |
| <purserj> grrrrr | |
| <Phlosten> herd 5 is due out today | |
| <purserj> I get a no device i810 found | |
| <Phlosten> purserj, someone was experiencing that earlier this week | |
| <Phlosten> can't remember who atm | |
| <purserj> right | |
| <adhoc> ._. | |
| <purserj> right, there is a new lot of xorg updates, lets hope these fix the problem | |
| <adhoc> there is a difference between feature freeze and update freeze | |
| <Phlosten> is it in feature freeze? | |
| <purserj> I would have that after feature freeze the only thing that gets pushed out would be security updates | |
| <Fujitsu> FeatureFreeze occured on Feb 8. That generally means that specs should be finished, and new packages should already be in. | |
| <purserj> ah thats much better | |
| <Fujitsu> UpstreamVersionFreeze occurred at the same time, which means that new upstream versions require an exception to be granted. | |
| <Fujitsu> Otherwise, uploads are unrestricted. | |
| <Fujitsu> Except for when we are in a pre-Herd freeze, like now. | |
| <purserj> Looks like an xorg upload borked | |
| <Fujitsu> All uploads to main require manual approval. | |
| <Fujitsu> We got xserver-xorg 1.2 a couple of days back, which could do it. | |
| <Fujitsu> This means we get some shiny new autodetection :) | |
| <Fujitsu> I'm using an i810 on it now, and it works fine. | |
| <purserj> Yar I'm back up and running now | |
| <Fujitsu> Actually, I'm using i810-modesetting, 'cause of the widescreen. | |
| <Phlosten> stupid floppy disks :/ | |
| <tuppa> and why are you still using them? | |
| <Phlosten> i was just creating one for scsi drivers for running xp in vmware | |
| <Phlosten> but it just clicked that i can tell vmware to just use the image file | |
| <Phlosten> beauty bonza mate, we are in business now |
