| <pschulz01> Morning. | |
| <Rothbuntu> mornin indeed | |
| <Phlosten> another day, another slow morning :) | |
| <pschulz01> Anyone else here seen flushed away? | |
| <pschulz01> 'Flushed Away' | |
| <Phlosten> i saw a preview, looked like crap | |
| <pschulz01> hehe.. half and half. | |
| <Phlosten> looked good for kids | |
| <pschulz01> It can't be that bad when there are singing slugs! | |
| <purserj> the problem I can see with flushed away, is that it isn't true Aardman animation | |
| <Phlosten> not sure that adults would tolerate it too much | |
| <pschulz01> purserj: Yes.. you're right. | |
| <pschulz01> We were in a plane.. we had too.. | |
| <purserj> Aardman brought claymation to a new level, trying to transfer it to CG just cheapens it | |
| <Phlosten> we had too....jump out the door to avoid viewing it? | |
| <Phlosten> purserj, thats probably why i didnt think it looked great. it looked cheap | |
| <pschulz01> It was obviously made for US audiences.. | |
| <purserj> Yeah, which rips out a large chunk of the Aardman charm, which is seriously british humour | |
| <Phlosten> hollywood has a predictable pattern. someone brings out an impressive animation, someone produces a cheap version straight afterwards | |
| <purserj> Good to hear that Aardman has decided he doesn't want to deal with the US anymore | |
| <pschulz01> bugs life - | |
| <pschulz01> - ants | |
| <pschulz01> cars - ? | |
| <purserj> I liked ants | |
| <purserj> Cars was meh | |
| <Phlosten> madagascar and their is a new rip off | |
| <pschulz01> madagasgar was good.. | |
| <Phlosten> there | |
| <Phlosten> cant recall what the name is | |
| <pschulz01> ? | |
| <purserj> The Wild? | |
| <Phlosten> just coming out atm | |
| <pschulz01> Over the hedge (I haven't seen it) | |
| <purserj> Oh that one | |
| <purserj> its alright, nothing special | |
| <Phlosten> thats it | |
| <Phlosten> over the hedge is great | |
| <Phlosten> any manage to watch Hoodwinked all the way through? that thing is attrocious | |
| <Phlosten> must be just me that has suffered the pain | |
| <Tatey> hi Phlosten | |
| <Phlosten> hey tatey | |
| <Tatey> how are you going? I remembered you were asking something a few days ago? (A little late I know) | |
| <Tatey> you guys heard that Dell is going to offer it's desktop and laptop range with Linux? Specifically Suse at this stage | |
| <Phlosten> good, I was just trying to find the 0.8 base CDs | |
| <Tatey> did you find them? | |
| <Phlosten> yeah, I did eventually | |
| <pschulz01> Tatey: Did you see this? http://www.dellideastorm.com/ | |
| <Tatey> yes, that's where it spawned from | |
| <pschulz01> Tatey: and my contribution.. http://www.dellideastorm.com/people/pschulz01/articles | |
| <Tatey> nice pschulz01 | |
| <pschulz01> (Not up to 86889 votes yet..) | |
| <Tatey> someoene else suggested they should put next to the parts (Linux 2.X.X compatible) | |
| <Phlosten> that would rock | |
| <Phlosten> they need to get them tested and certified | |
| <Phlosten> so there are 86889 people that would like a dell machine with linxu preinstalled | |
| <pschulz01> Phlosten: Maybe not.. maybe 8688. For some reason +10 is the default vote.. | |
| <pschulz01> Tatey: Feel free to add a comment :-) | |
| * cafuego_ might like a machine with Linux preinstalled, but not a Dell | |
| <Phlosten_> pschulz01, that doesn't sound nearly as good | |
| <Phlosten_> so the suse on dell is a definate happening thing? | |
| <cafuego_> MS SuSE or Novell SuSE? | |
| <tuppa> is there a difference? | |
| <Phlosten_> be nice if they through some money into hiring a couple of open source gurus to test their product line | |
| <Tatey> the thing is, even though it's "MS Suse", it is still using the Linux kernel, and therefore, if it's compatible with Suse, it's compatible with every other distribution | |
| <Tatey> I don't know why people treat individual distributions as "different" OS's | |
| <Tatey> they're all Linux | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> but have different levels of firmware | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> and kernel versions | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> and patches | |
| <Phlosten_> doesnt really matter what Linux they choose to start with. at least it gets the ball rolling in the right direction | |
| *** Phlosten_ is now known as Phlosten | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser wonders if rolling in the wrong direction is a good thing ;) | |
| <Phlosten> i don't think it's the wrong thing. the only thing wrong with suse is the commercial politics. at least they would still be getting a machine that is going to be compatible with the other choices | |
| <merlin-linux> morning | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser has this in his 'we'll see' box. its posible it will be great, and working suse=working most stuff, but it also means working suse=more binary drivers from del, only for suse, which are a real bitch to port anyware else | |
| <pschulz01> Phlosten: Kamping_Kaiser .. I still want to see specs!!! Even if the hardware isn't supported when shipped, as is currently the case, at least then we know what needs to be done. | |
| <Phlosten> yeah, agree with you on that | |
| <Phlosten> pschulz01, absolutely | |
| <Phlosten> thats how I shop now | |
| <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: ... and 'encouraged by Microsoft' to do so. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, sure, but theres nothing in the anouncement about specs, just workingwith novel | |
| <pschulz01> I need to blog this as another reason why the MS-Novel deal is bad. | |
| <Rothbuntu> $$$ will corupt linux starting with novell | |
| <pschulz01> Rothbuntu: .. not linux.. vender supplied support! | |
| <pschulz01> Novel will be the first, unless they wake-up soon. | |
| <pschulz01> There is still Debian! | |
| <Tatey> Kamping_Kaiser: well, the distribution I use is *always* up to date with kernels, so I don't need to worry about lagging behind in that respect :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Tatey, yes, but it does explain "<Tatey> I don't know why people treat individual distributions as "different" OS's" | |
| <Tatey> yea, fair enough | |
| <Tatey> basically, if the distribution they decide to preinstall uses 2.6.20, then you know, that if you have a 2.6.20 kernel, you have full support for all the hardware | |
| <Tatey> and if Dell chooses to support Linux, then we'll see more Linux drivers from hardware manufactures if they want their components included with Dell computers | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> potentially so, but more useless binary stuff, and less auditable free code. | |
| <Phlosten> yeah, only is Novell dont screw the kernel I suppose | |
| <Phlosten> welcome to Novell SUSE, now with MSLinuxKernel 2.x.x | |
| <Phlosten> is there a good equivalent of Basket for gnome? | |
| <pschulz01> What's basket? | |
| <Phlosten> somewhere you can stick notes, to-dos, images etc | |
| <MistaED> there's tomboy notes if you like small but mono bloated programs | |
| <MistaED> but that can only take notes afaik | |
| <tuppa> thereis | |
| <Phlosten> i am avoiding mono where possible | |
| <tuppa> there's zim | |
| <tuppa> which is like tomboy, but in perl | |
| <tuppa> instead of mono | |
| <pschulz01> doom doom doom doom doom doom doom!!! doom doom doom DOOOOM. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> isnt tehre a sticky notes thing in gnome? or did that stop at dapper? | |
| <tuppa> http://pardus-larus.student.utwente.nl/~pardus/projects/zim/ | |
| <pschulz01> (woops.. sorry... I thought you ment Invader ZIm) | |
| <tuppa> hehe | |
| <pschulz01> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invader_Zim | |
| <Rothbuntu> lol invader zim | |
| <Rothbuntu> love that show | |
| <rob_melb> arvo romana | |
| <romana> hey rob_melb! | |
| <romana> how is? | |
| <romana> how long till gand daughter | |
| <romana> ? | |
| *** cps|out is now known as cps | |
| <elkbuntu> albury is now up to 4cm rain for the past week | |
| <siccness> cool | |
| <elkbuntu> up to 5cm now, and the rain has stopped | |
| <romana> evening | |
| <cafuego_> hey you | |
| <romana> hows thangs? | |
| <cafuego_> romana: not bad | |
| <cafuego_> the grand daughter has popped out to the best of my knowledge | |
| <romana> yes, i got a photo this afternoon:) | |
| <romana> Young Isabella is cute as:) | |
| <cafuego_> (rob is in the living room here) | |
| * romana waves at gramps | |
| <adhock> evenen all =) | |
| <tuppa> hi | |
| <adhock> hi tuppa | |
| <adhock> how you going? | |
| <tuppa> I'm ok.. could be better | |
| <tuppa> and you? | |
| <adhock> its a tad hot, but glad the work day is over and can chill out! | |
| <tuppa> :) | |
| <adhock> hi pschulz01 | |
| <pschulz01> adhock: Owdy! | |
| *** sj061_ is now known as sj061 | |
| * adhock needs to get the dual head running on this desktop ... | |
| <yama> is/was there an ubuntu-au meeting on? | |
| <yama> cooo-ee! | |
| <adhock> =) | |
| <adhock> hi shenki_ | |
| <adhock> henno: | |
| <adhock> doh! | |
| <adhock> shenki_: you know i was talking about the little bots on sunday; | |
| <adhock> http://library.solarbotics.net/circuits/se_noct_SIMD1SR.html | |
| <adhock> cicuits | |
| <adhock> and photos; | |
| <yama> repeating my previous question, is/was there an ubuntu-au meeting on? There was scheduled to be, but a stupid netsplit kept me away. | |
| <adhock> http://bestiary.solarbotics.net/1120_pummer_gal.html | |
| <adhock> yama the topic says its this evenen | |
| <adhock> but i don't know. there hasn't been any activity for such a meeting | |
| <purserj> No evidence of a meeting in my logs | |
| <yama> maybe we should have a meeting about the last meeting being missed? :p | |
| <siccness> heheh | |
| <adhock> is there an agenda on the web site? | |
| <purserj> I think we should establish a sub sommittee to examine that | |
| <adhock> if so, then do it | |
| <adhock> if the key stake holders are not here... delay until next meeting | |
| <yama> adhock: we are all stake holders, we are a community. I assume you mean the community 'leaders'? | |
| <siccness> and we both know hearts can change | |
| <adhock> i mean the folks that put up the agenda items | |
| <adhock> stake holder for the meeting ... | |
| <yama> ah, I see | |
| <adhock> i have been managed to muuch at work =( | |
| <yama> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings <-- no agenda for this meeting | |
| <adhock> crazy meetings =/ | |
| <adhock> open, close, beer | |
| <siccness> do you need some time, on your own, do you need some time all alone! | |
| <siccness> adhock: yup, beer mate, beer. | |
| <yama> I'd actually like to raise one minor issue. How well-known is it that ubuntu-au has a planet? | |
| <yama> a blog planet, I mean | |
| <purserj> simple check the logs | |
| <adhock> there is a planet??!? | |
| * bimberi knew | |
| <purserj> if its only my ip and yours then not very | |
| <adhock> purserj: you have the convenuience of a single location to keep logs? | |
| <purserj> yup its called my server | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <yama> it seems that http://planet.ubuntu.org.au/ isn't well known at all | |
| <purserj> here's a scary thought though, imagine all the systems logs being stored in one directory, no seperation by application | |
| <bimberi> thanks :) | |
| <yama> and I think that it is in part due to it not being listed anywhere | |
| <yama> purserj: you are insane | |
| <purserj> yama: thats not my setup | |
| <purserj> thats a setup I had to install a drupal instance into last night | |
| <yama> ok, you're excused then :) | |
| <yama> those people are nuts | |
| <purserj> worse, they have no clue | |
| * yama shudders | |
| <purserj> its a freebsd machine and all the apache logs are being dumped into the same directory as the system logs | |
| <purserj> hell some of the vhosts don't actually log | |
| <yama> oh god... | |
| <purserj> yeah | |
| <yama> well back to my point: I think we should at the very least link to planet.ubuntu.org.au on ubuntu.org.au | |
| <adhock> i should set our perl coder from work on to them ... | |
| <purserj> hows this for a question from someone whos meant to be adminning a web box: how do you dump all from a mysql database system? | |
| <adhock> shes loverly, but logs need to be tidy! | |
| <bimberi> yama: +1 | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> how was the meeting? | |
| <yama> I was thinking to have it like a tab at the top, along with the others | |
| <adhock> Kamping_Kaiser: slow | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, oh. | |
| <adhock> yama: and in the /topic? | |
| <siccness> oh theres a meeting, sorry | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry i missed it, i was at itshare | |
| <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: "20:52 < adhock> open, close, beer" | |
| <bimberi> ^-- Meeting Log | |
| <siccness> i thought you guys were talkin about some other meeting | |
| <yama> Kamping_Kaiser: I'm raising one point, but other than that there's no meeting | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi, cheers | |
| <bimberi> ;) | |
| <siccness> what's up Kampaz? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, just got home. working on computers at itshare | |
| <siccness> nice | |
| <yama> adhock: yeah, we can put it in the /topic as well | |
| <yama> so far there are only 2 people on that planet | |
| <yama> when there are far more who should be on there | |
| <purserj> only two people left, a man and a woman, perhaps we should call you adam and eve? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> yama, we can add it to the topic if you want.... | |
| <yama> Kamping_Kaiser: sure, go ahead :) | |
| <yama> although the /topic is getting rather long | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> planet.u.c.a? | |
| <siccness> I think I should clear out my /home | |
| <purserj> well why is the mailing list in there? | |
| <yama> I say we remove the last bit from the /topic | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol siccness | |
| <adhock> purserj: i'll let you move my /home from @adeliade to @mtbarker | |
| *** Kamping_Kaiser changes topic to "Welcome to the Official Australian Ubuntu LoCo Team channel! || Meetings: Every second Tuesday, 0900UTC. Next meeting Feb. 27 || Mailing list: http://ubuntu.org.au/go/mlist || Please abide by the Ubuntu Code of Conduct whilst in this channel: http://ubuntu.com/community/conduct || http://planet.ubuntu.org.au/" | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> purserj, hm? | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: you should see it man, it's filth. 200+ video files in /home/siccness, about 400 .txt files related to tafe left, right and center | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, lol. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> is everyone happy with /topic? | |
| <yama> Kamping_Kaiser: looks better now | |
| <siccness> hell it might actually be easier to just delete everything and start from scratch | |
| <siccness> Looks good, Kampaz | |
| <yama> although it should be on the web site as well | |
| <yama> who manages that? MatthewV I presume? | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: might as well change the meeting time to | |
| *** Kamping_Kaiser sets mode: -o Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <siccness> while you've got op status | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ah, will do | |
| <yama> too late... | |
| <siccness> meh, do it another day lol | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Kamping_Kaiser | |
| *** Kamping_Kaiser changes topic to "Welcome to the Official Australian Ubuntu LoCo Team channel! || Meetings: Every second Tuesday, 0900UTC. Next meeting March 13th || Mailing list: http://ubuntu.org.au/go/mlist || Please abide by the Ubuntu Code of Conduct whilst in this channel: http://ubuntu.com/community/conduct || http://planet.ubuntu.org.au/" | |
| *** Kamping_Kaiser changes topic to "Welcome to the Official Australian Ubuntu LoCo Team channel! || Meetings: Every second Tuesday, 0900UTC. Next meeting March 13th || Mailing list: http://ubuntu.org.au/go/mlist || http://planet.ubuntu.org.au/ || Please abide by the Ubuntu Code of Conduct whilst in this channel: http://ubuntu.com/community/conduct" | |
| *** Kamping_Kaiser sets mode: -o Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> aaaalllll goood | |
| <siccness> Hmm, it appears to me that my birthday is relatively soon. | |
| <siccness> What's everyone buying me? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, *wink wink* | |
| <siccness> quagmire *oohh righht* | |
| * yama hands siccness a virtual beer | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> does the top right corner of p.u.c.a look broken to anyone else? | |
| <siccness> a cold hard vic? :) | |
| <siccness> what's puca? | |
| <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: yes | |
| <yama> planet.ubuntu.com.au I presume? | |
| <siccness> if you're referring to planet ubuntu-au's image in the top right hander corner, yes | |
| <siccness> *right hand | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> yama, yeh | |
| <yama> I don't see anything wrong | |
| <shenki_> hello | |
| *** shenki_ is now known as shenki | |
| <siccness> g'day shenkaz | |
| <yama> Kamping_Kaiser: what are you seeing? | |
| <adhock> how does one get a feed onto puca ? | |
| * bimberi shrugs | |
| <shenki> anyone here live in sydney? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> yama, the logo is ofset to the left with whitespace on the right, then the text below wraps with only 'ubuntu' on the top line, justfied right | |
| <tuppa> what's a good place to find out more about the Ubuntu Business Council? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> shenki, depends how close to 'in sydney', and yes, a number do | |
| <shenki> in as in close enough to listen to red symons breakfast program on ABC radio | |
| <yama> Kamping_Kaiser: Yes you're right. I thought that was intentional | |
| <bimberi> adhock: contact Fujitsu I'd say | |
| <tuppa> I want to find out more about "a forum to decide corporate technical and marketing requirements" | |
| <adhock> ok cool | |
| <tuppa> particularly on the marketing requirements bit | |
| <tuppa> :) | |
| <yama> adhock: I think MatthewV is managing it | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> yama, well... looks broken to me :) | |
| <yama> Kamping_Kaiser: you're right. It shouldn't be that way | |
| <shenki> anyway... reason i ask is that i'm getting interviewed by him re the olpc tomorrow morning | |
| <shenki> so listen :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> shenki, if you havent already, perhaps hit the list :) | |
| <yama> shenki: I'm in Sydney | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Howdy peeps | |
| <shenki> Kamping_Kaiser: 'the' list? which one? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> shenki, ubuntu-au or linux-australia (were the two i thought of) | |
| <shenki> ah, linux-au, good idea | |
| <yama> shenki: yes, publicise it | |
| <shenki> did you see the australian article today? | |
| <yama> shenki: I added a comment to it, but I don't think they've put it on the page | |
| <shenki> yama: the online version? cool. i like the online version, coz it doesn't have my ghay photo :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> shenki, havent seen it | |
| <yama> shenki: your photo was on the print version? Cool, | |
| <shenki> yeah :( | |
| <shenki> ive got a black and white scan | |
| <shenki> i'll email it around shortly | |
| <yama> http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,21281225-2682,00.html | |
| <bimberi> tuppa: You seeing that at http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/become/partner ? | |
| <yama> the first comment there is a bit ignorant | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> back in 15. brb | |
| <shenki> brb | |
| <bimberi> We can listen to shenki via http://www.abc.net.au/backyard/audio/ (.ram and .asx only :( ). | |
| <yama> will it be recorded anywhere? | |
| <yama> I would like to be able to download it | |
| <tuppa> bimberi: yup | |
| <shenki> bimberi: would you be able to sort our getting that recorded? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> transcript should be available, not srue about recorded | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser cant do ram+asx | |
| <bimberi> "two Australians". Hm. There's also James Cameron (Quozl) and Rusty Russell at least. | |
| <bimberi> shenki: Probably not | |
| <bimberi> :( | |
| <shenki> hmmm | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser marvels how hard it is to get facts correct | |
| <bimberi> hang on, Red Symons is Melbourne | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I was using redhat 7.2 today | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It wouldn't start x for some reason. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Playing at a command line was fun though. | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: TAFE/Uni? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Stupid thing didn't have irssi :( | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah tafe | |
| <siccness> Install irssi, and it probably wouldnt make any difference. | |
| <siccness> Probbaly blocked | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> what are you using RH 7.2 at tafe for? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Don't get excited, it was a lab machine for pulling apart/teaching/learning. No internet access in that lab. | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> our lab at tafe is mad | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Kamping_Kaiser: /me shrugs. It was on the PC, along with 3 copies of w2k (dual boot) | |
| <siccness> you load win2k3serv with internet connected and bang! swinburne cuts internet access off | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> heh | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I saw two people using vista today and I thought 'you must have no brains' | |
| <yama> 'a fool and his money are soon parted' | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yep | |
| <siccness> dont worry, they probably said the same when they saw you playing with RH 7.2 | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl | |
| <pschulz01> Davo_Dinkum: Did they buy with a machine or just the software do you think.. 'caue I've just been party to two laptop purchases and bothe of them have Vista on them... | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: No, they probably had no idea what I was doing | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: or that. | |
| <yama> all you need is screen, irssi and elinks | |
| <siccness> yama: word to that! | |
| <pschulz01> Davo_Dinkum: Needless to say.. I feel very dirty. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> yama: It didn't have irssi or elinks, and I sure as hell wasn't going to attempt to install them | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, :S | |
| <yama> ugh, rpm hell | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> pschulz01: They looked liked new laptops, so they probably came preloaded/ | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *preloaded. | |
| * yama awaits his free copy of vista | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> "free"? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Davo_Dinkum, only 1 kidney required :D | |
| <siccness> Hahaha | |
| <yama> well, I paid for XP with my machine, and I get a free upgrade | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Along with your SOUL!!!! | |
| <siccness> sif pay for software. | |
| <yama> siccness: if you buy any laptop, you're forced to pay for software with it | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I pay for *copies* of software. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> yama: Not 2nd hand. | |
| <yama> ah | |
| * Davo_Dinkum buys second hand laptops. | |
| <yama> actually, I paid for a restrictive licence to use said software :p | |
| <yama> not that I use it much | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> yama: True | |
| <siccness> yama: isn't dell or one of those people allowing you to buy it without an OS? | |
| <yama> only on certain models | |
| <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: Needless to say.. the one I'm (hopefully) getting my hands on tomorrow will not have Vista on it for long. | |
| <yama> and they're quiet about it. If they make too much of a fuss, MS threatens them | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah, like *3* models from their whole lineup. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, gl. | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: Better than none tho I guess. | |
| <pschulz01> Kamping_Kaiser: I am planning to setup dual boot though... 'Edgy' and 'Feisty'. | |
| <siccness> I've actually had a few people say to me they're switching to Linux full-time | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Not really. I could just buy 2nd hand. | |
| <yama> festy ferret | |
| <siccness> Kind of good to hear. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Dell notebooks aren't anything special anyway. | |
| <yama> http://www.dellideastorm.com/ | |
| <yama> the top votes are for linux and openoffice | |
| <Rothbuntu> http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/11850 cisco in iraq 200k a year | |
| <yama> and http://direct2dell.com/ | |
| <Rothbuntu> good job for someone | |
| <yama> phoar, $200k | |
| <adhock> Rothbuntu: crap working conditions tho | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I'll put my 2cents in for one with a LinuxBIOS mobo and gNewSense preloaded, and then not buy it :) | |
| <siccness> just a quick question for you blokes who have a nicely structured file/directory setup under ~, where do you put other non-related crap? | |
| <adhock> theres not nearly enought danger money | |
| <siccness> just under a directory called 'other' or 'miscellanious'? | |
| <pschulz01> yama: I put an idea in... | |
| <pschulz01> http://www.dellideastorm.com/people/pschulz01/articles | |
| <adhock> siccness: /home/user/ on the server | |
| <yama> mind you, free software still can't do as much as cisco in some ways | |
| <siccness> adhock: eh? | |
| <yama> so there isn't much choice | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Holy crap dell actually made a decent website: http://www.dellideastorm.com/ | |
| <siccness> so you just put stuff that isn't related to any directory in your ~, under ~? | |
| <siccness> rather than ~/other? | |
| <yama> pschulz01: +1 | |
| <yama> great idea | |
| <pschulz01> yama: If only they REALLY cared! | |
| <adhock> dell is trying to be cool like apple | |
| <yama> pschulz01: I'm sure that Dell want to sell Linux, but their agreements with MS bind them | |
| <yama> they are a hardware company, and they try to keep costs down | |
| <adhock> when i spokle to our accoutn managet at dell | |
| <yama> Linux are perfect for them | |
| <adhock> the main reason the dumped linux as OEM | |
| <pschulz01> adhoc: I need to get me one of those. | |
| <adhock> was the cost to build and maintain *a* distro cost more than the sales were worth | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Dell *are* big enough to tell M$ to get nicked though. | |
| <yama> adhock: they'll say anything but 'microsoft threatened us' | |
| <adhock> i asked about that, they don't pay a licence fee for servers by default | |
| *** merlin_the_great is now known as merlin-linux | |
| <adhock> but they do for all lappies and dekstops | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> how can it be easier to maintain a windows oem then a linux oem? | |
| <yama> Dell have a habit of making a very quiet release of a linux-based product, burying it so nobody can find it, then complaining that there is no demand | |
| <adhock> Kamping_Kaiser: there were so few sales, that the cost of the test team was higher than the sales the OS ... | |
| <yama> also, they price the linux oferings very poorly | |
| <pschulz01> adhock: Pity.. they they fail to realise that if they provided the specs. and some minimal incentives (DELL hardware, DELL t-shirts even) they could get all the drivers written for free. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> pfft dell tshirt | |
| <pschulz01> adhock: and maintained.. I should think. | |
| <adhock> if they used sane haredware they would have the support problesn =) | |
| <pschulz01> adhock: Wouldn't? | |
| <yama> they support linux on servers, but on the desktop it's a fiasco | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Do they have notebook servers? :P | |
| <adhock> no, but they should | |
| <adhock> i have seen laptops running NT server in data centers running whole sites | |
| <yama> my laptop could make a decent 1ru server | |
| <yama> and it's a dell | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL did you guys see this? http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/nop-nop-nop-nop-nop | |
| <purserj> same here | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Scroll down | |
| <purserj> adhock: scary isn't it | |
| <purserj> Davo_Dinkum: yeah saw it, was amused for all of a minute then moved on | |
| <Rothbuntu> hahah much lols | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> purserj: Just a good example of how bad a website could be (the text scrolling everywhere that is) | |
| <adhock> purserj: yes, especuially when you find out these guys make a million $ a month and get a million hits a day on a couple of laptops | |
| <adhock> purserj: no redundancy and no active mantenance ... | |
| <purserj> what is this "main te nance" of which you speak? | |
| <adhock> =/ | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> purserj, its the important part of a nance :) | |
| * adhock hits purserj, with a pair of haddock | |
| <adhock> fi nance | |
| * purserj retaliates with a flock of tintins | |
| <adhock> um ... | |
| * adhock munches on a box of timtams | |
| <yama> you're eating a horse? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> "Eric Raymond does minimum self-promotion" LOL | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> From http://geekz.co.uk/esrfacts/fact/8 | |
| <yama> ha! | |
| <mruiz> hi all | |
| * pschulz01 found a squashed kitkat at the bottom of his laptop bag. | |
| <adhock> oops | |
| <adhock> that would go nicely with the 1/4" | |
| <merlin-linux> evening | |
| <adhock> marsbar that i found today | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Reading too many ESR quotes makes you talk in sentences like this. | |
| <Phlosten> howdy all | |
| <adhock> evenen Phlosten | |
| *** stuart_ is now known as croppa | |
| * siccness whistles | |
| * adhock toots | |
| *** cps is now known as cps|Zzz | |
| * siccness whistles | |
| <praetorian> dum dum dum | |
| <adhock> anybody think there was nothing going on ... | |
| <pschulz01> Shazzam! | |
| <pschulz01> http://gallery.mawsonlakes.org/gallery/ | |
| <pschulz01> don't crash, don't crash, don't crash... | |
| * pschulz01 sees blinking lights | |
| <lucychili> =) | |
| <adhock> pschulz01: http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/02/usb_to_serial_nikeipod_ad.html | |
| <pschulz01> adhock: Wahoo! Two people looked... or was it the same person twice? | |
| <merlin-linux> pschulz01: i just looked at the IT descovery stuff | |
| <pschulz01> adhoc: Do you think an r100 (5V) could be powered by a 6V lead acid battery? | |
| <merlin-linux> pschulz01: great to see that you got the ML website backup and running | |
| <adhock> ywa | |
| <adhock> yes | |
| <adhock> but you prolly want 9V with a regulator | |
| <pschulz01> merlin-linux: Hmm... all my fingers are crossed twice.. it makes it a little difficult to type. | |
| <pschulz01> adhock: 9V? | |
| <merlin-linux> pschulz01: hehe | |
| <merlin-linux> pschulz01: 9V and then convert it down to 5V | |
| <merlin-linux> but i thing the r100's have enough tolerance to run off a 6V gel cell | |
| <merlin-linux> but the question is the life cycle of a 6V gel cell attached to a r100 | |
| <merlin-linux> 6V gel cell might only last couple hours on a r100 | |
| <merlin-linux> i am looking at a 6V gel cell backup for my r100 when there a power outage | |
| <adhock> you also probably need a regualted power supply for it, even when running from battery | |
| <merlin-linux> yeah | |
| <merlin-linux> as soon as i can get my other UPS up and running i will have nps | |
| <merlin-linux> my other UPS has standard 3 pin power sockets | |
| <merlin-linux> so i can plug a power board on to it and run modem / switch / wireless etc off the UPS | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> MotherLUG, ! | |
| <MotherLUG> hey Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :) | |
| <adhock> night all =) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> night adhoc | |
| <MotherLUG> night Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> night MotherLUG | |
| <MotherLUG> oh sorry | |
| <MotherLUG> misread. Night adhoc | |
| <MotherLUG> evening Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe. | |
| <adhock> pschulz01: http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Esbolt/Other/suneaterIV.html | |
| <adhock> pschulz01: http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Esbolt/e-lezersbijdrage.html | |
| <adhock> pschulz01: http://www.jcminventures.com/chlorplast_instructions.htm | |
| <adhock> pschulz01: we need to find a source or motorola MC34164-3 | |
| <pschulz01> adhock: Can you buy enough bits for me? | |
| <adhock> i have some bits already in the kit | |
| <adhock> i just don;t have any of the voltage sensors | |
| <adhock> got some flashing LEDs | |
| <adhock> which should work | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> pschulz01, are you bringing the remaining showbags down to bc? | |
| <siccness> omgz, linux has crashed | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> did it? | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <siccness> big sicc aint happy | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> well understand this: | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> To Fucking Bad | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :P | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <siccness> hmm, something isn't right here tho :| | |
| <siccness> there's definitely an underlying issue | |
| <siccness> im pointing the blame towards something along the lines of, vlc. | |
| <siccness> brb | |
| <pschulz01> Aaarrrrooooo!!!!!!!! | |
| *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ | |
| *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ | |
| *** cps|Zzz is now known as cps | |
| <Phlosten> morning all | |
| <Phlosten> oooh, lubly rain! | |
| <adhock> pah! | |
| <adhock> don't believe you! | |
| <adhock> anyhow ... work calls | |
| <adhock> laters | |
| <elkbuntu> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/20/197251 :D | |
| <tuppa> oh we love you so much elkbuntu | |
| <tuppa> :) | |
| <bimberi> elkbuntu: you star!! | |
| <bimberi> hrm, trailing ) on the NSW DET URL causes a 404 (ajmitch spotted the fix) | |
| <nrdb> can you match a \r character in a regex search equation ? | |
| <TheMuso> elkbuntu: Rockin' article. | |
| <cafuego_> nrdb: if I had to guess, yes |