| <wikityler> the spot on the menu bar where the amarok and gaim icons go when running in the background has disappeared. how do i get it back? | |
| <wikityler> nm, found it | |
| <lophyte> hey jamonation | |
| <jamonation> hi lophyte | |
| <jamonation> hi all in fact | |
| <jamonation> why limit ourselfs ya? | |
| <lophyte> how's it going? | |
| <jamonation> feeling better? | |
| <lophyte> yeah | |
| <jamonation> tis good | |
| <wikityler> how do i reboot into the command prompt? | |
| <tonyyarusso> wikityler: Why would you need to reboot for it? | |
| <SpacePuppy> i hate it when people ask me why i want to do something as i knew there was some other to do it, and they don't mention how. | |
| <wikityler> well i just want to exit any graphical interface and be left with a command prompt, and figured rebooting what how that was done | |
| <SpacePuppy> ctrl alt f1 | |
| <koi-mobile> ctrl+alt+f1 | |
| <SpacePuppy> and then ctrl alt f7 to return | |
| <koi-mobile> f1 through f6 would also be fine | |
| <wikityler> but then it's still running in the background | |
| <tonyyarusso> wikityler: Or if you want to kill the graphics to save resources, after ctrl-alt-f1, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop | |
| <SpacePuppy> wikityler: yes | |
| <wikityler> i want to reconfigure xorg | |
| <SpacePuppy> then reconfigure it and just restart the xserver | |
| <koi-mobile> dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg | |
| <koi-mobile> i thinks | |
| <wikityler> i dont have to exit xorg? many places say that auto detection works best without it running | |
| <jamonation> wikityler: /etc/init.d/gdm stop will stop it | |
| <wikityler> ok | |
| <jamonation> once you are done, substitute start for stop | |
| <jamonation> or use invoke-rc.d like tonyyarusso said | |
| <wikityler> when i do ctrl+alt+f1 i cant login | |
| <wikityler> it wont accept my un and pass | |
| <jamonation> that's really odd | |
| <tonyyarusso> It says the pass is wrong? | |
| <jamonation> check in /var/log/auth.log to see what's going on | |
| <wikityler> login incorrect | |
| <tonyyarusso> caps lock? | |
| <wikityler> nope | |
| <wikityler> i know one time i pressed a key or key combo at some time during the boot, and it gave me an option to boot only to command prompt | |
| <jamonation> wikityler: usually just escape | |
| <jamonation> and choose rescue mode | |
| <wikityler> bbiab to try that | |
| <Madpilot> Hmm... is there any way to figure out how long a dist-upgrade is going to take? I'd like to upgrade this machine soon, but don't have the time to stay up all night babysitting it... | |
| <jamonation> how many MB? | |
| <jamonation> you could do it in chunks | |
| <Madpilot> how do you chop a dist-upgrade into chunks? | |
| <jamonation> check out the packages listed, then use upgrade instead | |
| <jamonation> pick a few major packages from the bunch and do them | |
| <jamonation> that would be my strategy, sort of an incremental upgrade | |
| <Madpilot> I'm planning a total dist-upgrade, though - Dapper->Edgy. I don't think I can do that one package at a time? | |
| <jamonation> ah i see | |
| <jamonation> well, i think some stuff can be done | |
| <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: apt-get can resume, btw. | |
| <jamonation> like umm, firefox, ooffice stuf like that | |
| <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: yes, you can. | |
| <jamonation> choose the big ones | |
| <tonyyarusso> No changes get applied until all packages have been downloaded. | |
| <Madpilot> good news. | |
| * tonyyarusso is on dialup - very familiar :) | |
| <Madpilot> does the GUI update/upgrade manager support resume too? | |
| <tonyyarusso> I think so, but don't know as I never use it. | |
| <Madpilot> it's now the recommend dist-upgrade path; apt-get dist-update is depreciated, I see | |
| <tonyyarusso> yeah | |
| * tonyyarusso still uses it though, since the graphical one wasn't ready for feisty back in november | |
| <jamonation> aptitude is your best bet | |
| <Madpilot> change sources.list manually, then run aptitude dist-upgrade? | |
| <tonyyarusso> That's what I've done, yes, although it's not "recommended" | |
| <tonyyarusso> sudo sed -i 's/edgy/feisty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade, actually. | |
| <Madpilot> it'd be nice if there was a "After examining your system, a full upgrade from <version> to <version+1> will take an estimated <x> hours." | |
| <tonyyarusso> yeah | |
| <tonyyarusso> The actual installation should be measured in minutes - only downloading takes very long. | |
| <Madpilot> my Hoary->Breezy update took less that 3hrs, total; my Breezy->Dapper update ground on for 7+hrs, errored out, and resulted in a complete reinstall of Dapper. So I'm gunshy now... | |
| <Madpilot> afk | |
| <Madpilot> back | |
| <Madpilot> I'll probably do the dist-upgrade (via whatever method) on Weds night; that's Friday for me by my current work sked so I don't care if it keeps me up until 0300... | |
| <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: TBQH, I usually just use a separate /home and do fresh installs rather than dist-upgrades, deleting a lot of the ~/.* dirs ahead of time and such. | |
| <Madpilot> ya, I'm tempted. Nuke large sections of the Gnome dotfiles, nuke /, pull down an Edgy ISO first. | |
| <tonyyarusso> Nuke all but .irssi, .gnupg, maybe two or three more. Most of that stuff is unimportant :) | |
| <Madpilot> hmm.... | |
| * Madpilot checks his dotfile collection | |
| <Madpilot> I've got a couple dozen I'd want to keep - .opera, .xchat2, .mozilla, .gimp* are the big ones | |
| <Madpilot> oh, and .font - got far too large a font collection :) | |
| <jamonation> well wikityler? | |
| <wikityler> is it possible to reinstall xorg? it's very corrupted. | |
| <wikityler> when i move the cursor or change options in the configuration it scrambles the characters on the screen, and when it's supposed to write to the conf file, it just creates a file with missing parts. | |
| <jamonation> did you make a backup of xorg.conf? | |
| <wikityler> ya | |
| <wikityler> thats how i was able to boot now | |
| <jamonation> ouch | |
| <jamonation> tried dpkg-reconfigure? | |
| <jamonation> ah | |
| <wikityler> i was using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | |
| <jamonation> so what is it you are trying to do with xorg? | |
| <jamonation> before it broke that is | |
| <wikityler> orrigionaly i was using a res of 1152x768 at 75hz, but i changed it to 1024x768 at 80hz to play a game. when i went to change it back to 1152x768 the only refresh rate available was 55hz. | |
| <jamonation> http://www.bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/modline.php?MODE=1&RE_VALUE=1152+864&FREQ=75 | |
| <jamonation> you want to put that line in your "Monitor" section of xorg.conf | |
| <jamonation> unless you've tried a modeline already | |
| <wikityler> ok.... but should i not be worried about xorg's other problems? could they be the cause of my random freezing? | |
| <jamonation> well, get your display working properly again first | |
| <wikityler> Oh boy... | |
| <Madpilot> xorg still interestingly broken? | |
| <wikityler> well adding those lines didn't help. instead of an 'xorg cant start' type error message i got a screen of various coloured characters | |
| <lightrush> hello ppl | |
| <lightrush> ;D | |
| <lightrush> this is a bit like the "Hello world!" program | |
| <lightrush> it is good to know that there are non-zombies out there, but much better when one finds where they gather :D | |
| <lightrush> I guess that most of u are sleeping @ this moment.. but anyway - nice to meet u guys | |
| <Madpilot> hi lightrush - just about to sign off for the night, but welcome to #ubuntu-ca | |
| <lightrush> ;) | |
| <lightrush> gn then :D | |
| <Madpilot> g'night | |
| <el56> Iophyte: ping | |
| <jamonation> don't think he's online right now el56 | |
| <el56> ok, thx | |
| <Andy0> hello :) | |
| <Andy0> anyone up to helping? | |
| <jamonation> hi Andy0, what's going on? | |
| <Andy0> learning to work with Ubuntu while sick from highschool | |
| <jamonation> ah i see, sick ;) | |
| <jamonation> lol, so what are you learning then? | |
| <Andy0> so far: i got beryl working, kibu-dock cvs server isn't accepting anomomius connects so i couldn't get it, so i went for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2093300 Avant Window Navigator, but run into needing XGL or AIGLX for my: ubuntu 6.10 edgy with nVidia 6600 GT card | |
| <jamonation> hmm, i have a 6800xt and don't need xgl | |
| <Andy0> and im still nooby with ubuntu / linux (always have been a windows user) to get http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-edgy/ working for me | |
| <Andy0> how do i know if i need XGL or AIGLX -> avant window manager requires it, do i have it? | |
| <jamonation> you have aiglx already | |
| <jamonation> it is built into the graphics server xorg | |
| <Andy0> right .... | |
| <jamonation> with nvidia you can and should use aiglx | |
| <Andy0> so i have it> | |
| <jamonation> xgl is sort of a hack | |
| <Andy0> so ive been told | |
| <Andy0> so i hae aiglx already? | |
| <jamonation> you might also try using beryl instead of compiz as beryl is a little more stable and currently more supported i think | |
| <jamonation> you do indeed have it | |
| <Andy0> im kinda confused, i have beryl already | |
| <jamonation> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu | |
| <jamonation> you have beryl or compiz? there is a difference | |
| <Andy0> i have: nVidia 6600 GT card, 6.10 edgy installed with beryl, (vista theme) | |
| <Andy0> i have beryl | |
| <jamonation> oh ok | |
| <jamonation> right | |
| <Andy0> so to get Avant Window Navigator .. | |
| <jamonation> good, so it's just avant now that you're trying to get working? | |
| <Andy0> get | |
| <Andy0> yes | |
| <Andy0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2093300 - is what im looking at | |
| <Andy0> and i used http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA to install beryl | |
| <w98-> howdy :) | |
| <w98-> err, that should be win98->ubuntu=1week | |
| *** w98- is now known as w98ToUbuntu1week | |
| <w98ToUbuntu1week> hmm, i go find somewhere busier.. :) | |
| * Solver doesn't say anything |