| <lisapc> lol | |
| <lisapc> u went? | |
| <lisapc> tuppa u study at UNI? | |
| <lisapc> anyone work for a PC company? | |
| <cafuego_> No, my company is politically incorrect. | |
| <purserj> cafuego_: your harrased by your boss? | |
| * cafuego_ hands purserj a ' | |
| <tuppa> lisapc: nah, didn't go, and yes, I'm studying uni parttime | |
| <lisapc> ok | |
| <lisapc> bye for now | |
| <greebo> tuppa, how can i help with the marketing thing? | |
| <adhoc> ping? | |
| <adhoc> have a SSH problem... | |
| <adhoc> having and issue where specific boxes can not login, | |
| <adhoc> and we have "ChallengeResponseAuthentication" set to no | |
| <adhoc> on the new host, but its not set on the old server | |
| <adhoc> any ideas? | |
| <purserj> you tried setting the old server to the same as the new one? | |
| <jeff22> can I download packages onto a cd in xp and transfer them to ubuntu | |
| <romana> jeff22: as long as you have all teh dependencies. else you will have to source the dependencies whil installing:) | |
| <romana> i have odne this before for friends | |
| <jeff22> cool | |
| <jeff22> thanks | |
| <romana> you end up having to dpkg -i *.deb from /mnt/cdrom | |
| <romana> but the depenedencies ned ot be installed or on cd too | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> No one has bid on my auction! :( | |
| <adhoc> purserj: ChallengeResponseAuthentication is the only difference and i can not afford to break a production server to test the theory ... =( | |
| <wongy> morning all! | |
| <purserj> adhoc: bugger | |
| <purserj> same versions of ssh? | |
| <merlin-linux> morning peeps | |
| <adhoc> purserj: i doubt it, RH7 vs AS4 | |
| <purserj> ahhh | |
| <pochu> hey australian people! | |
| <jeff22> hiya | |
| <effie_jayx> hello form venezuela ;) | |
| * pochu is traveling to australia in August 2008 :) | |
| <cafuego_> Davo_Dinkum: trying to sell an iBook for $1500? | |
| <purserj> pochu: nice | |
| <pochu> maybe you can advice me to visit any place :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> cafuego_: 779.99 actually | |
| <elkbuntu> pochu, if you come in january 2008 you'll get to come to LCA :) | |
| <pochu> or maybe you want to meet an ubuntuisher :) | |
| <cafuego_> melbourne, in january 2008 | |
| <pochu> hehe | |
| <pochu> elkbuntu: LCA? | |
| <elkbuntu> Linux.Conf.Au | |
| <purserj> linux.conf.au | |
| <pochu> ou! | |
| <pochu> :( | |
| <purserj> The biggest FOSS conference in the southern hemisphere | |
| <pochu> if you can wait a little | |
| <pochu> till august :) | |
| <pochu> I'll go there for sure :) | |
| <elkbuntu> haha, sorry no :( | |
| <pochu> then I'll see the news from spain :) | |
| <yama> purserj: that isn't much of an achievement. There isn't much in the southern hemisphere | |
| <purserj> yama: remind me to let team 7 know you said that ;) | |
| <yama> heh: It's true, though. Whom can we compete with? New Zealand? | |
| <tuppa> well, it's the best linux conference, says linus | |
| <purserj> cos its kind of disorganised | |
| <cafuego_> thusfar anyway | |
| <cafuego_> we're completely organised for 08 | |
| <pochu> what's team 7? :) | |
| <bimberi> pochu: the organising team for LCA2007 | |
| <pochu> oh, 7 of 200*7* :) | |
| <pochu> hehe | |
| <yama> don't get me wrong. LCA is brilliant. I just find it amusing when Australians say 'we have the biggest/best xxx in the southern hemisphere' | |
| <bimberi> you got it :) | |
| * pochu should go to sleep :) | |
| <yama> and by xxx I don't mean pr0n :) | |
| <Rothbuntu> prolly got that too | |
| <yama> unless you're weird and like tentacles | |
| <Rothbuntu> O_o | |
| <yama> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tentacle_porn | |
| <cafuego_> frid with chili and garlic | |
| <cafuego_> fried | |
| <greebo> yama, that is not cool | |
| <Rothbuntu> Chluthu or what ever its called | |
| <cafuego_> Cthulhu | |
| <cafuego_> Cthulhu eats humans, doesn't do anything else with 'em. | |
| <cafuego_> Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'Lyeh Wgah'nagl Fhtagn! | |
| <Rothbuntu> thats the one | |
| <Rothbuntu> gb2 4chan ------> | |
| <adhoc> Cthulhu was a cool RPG | |
| <purserj> Okay you've said his name three times now | |
| <purserj> never played it | |
| <adhoc> purserj: is three times bad? | |
| <purserj> Three times summons him | |
| <Rothbuntu> does it summon the cracken | |
| <cafuego_> kraken, you mean? | |
| <purserj> hmmm krackers | |
| <Rothbuntu> knackers | |
| <jeff22> how do I get ubuntu to connect to the internet? I have dial-up and an internal modem | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> jeff22: Has ubuntu detected the modem? | |
| <jeff22> no | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How do you know? | |
| <bimberi> jeff22: internal means it's probably a winmodem. Experiences vary widely with them. The bot has a page... | |
| <bimberi> !modem | |
| <ubot3> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto | |
| * Davo_Dinkum is away | |
| <jeff22> thanks, I have read that page and am none the wiser for it | |
| <jeff22> if i get broadband will i be able to connect | |
| <Rothbuntu> as long as you get a fairly decent " NON WIN MODEM " yep | |
| <jeff22> okay | |
| <jeff22> thanks | |
| <Rothbuntu> anything that connect via ethernet should be a good thing | |
| <jeff22> okay | |
| <yama> greebo: yeah, I was seeing the funny side of it more than anything else. Sorry :( | |
| <greebo> yama, yeah, i went to the page and saw "tentacles rape women" and kind of went, erm... | |
| <greebo> yama, np, just brought it up as I didn't think it was quite appropriate :) | |
| <cafuego_> No, bad yama. Beers are on you. | |
| <yama> greebo: you're right. I sometimes have a warped sense of humour, and this time it got the better of me. | |
| *** Fujitsu_ is now known as Fujitsu | |
| <Rothbuntu> ggrrrrr | |
| <yama> greebo: about CeBIT, should I put in an order for Ubuntu CDs at shipit.ubuntu.com? | |
| <greebo> yama, sure :) | |
| <tuppa> but aren't they dapper CDs? | |
| <purserj> yup | |
| <purserj> Edgy isn't part of the shipit stock | |
| <yama> so how would I get Edgy CDs? | |
| <yama> if there is a way at all | |
| <cafuego_> Downlaod 'em | |
| <cafuego_> And burn | |
| <cafuego_> Probably by special request | |
| <yama> we're going to need thousands, so burning is going to be painful | |
| <cafuego_> special request then | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> yama: Thousands? What for? | |
| <yama> Davo_Dinkum: CeBIT | |
| <bimberi> yama: Edgy CD's are available to LoCo Teams. elkbuntu might be able to help out - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds | |
| <yama> bimberi: good idea, cheers | |
| <shenki> Fujitsu: you about? | |
| * Fujitsu hides from shenki. | |
| <shenki> found you :) | |
| <shenki> i'm trying to get a file up on ubuntu.com.au, using that account you gave me way back. login works fine, i'm happy to report, but i can't seem to remember the url that points to me ~/public_html | |
| <Fujitsu> people.ubuntu.org.au/~username | |
| <praetorian> ya | |
| <Fujitsu> (or ubuntu.com.au, it redirects) | |
| <shenki> ok, was forgetting the people :) thanks | |
| <cafuego_> oooh, can I have one to mirror a heavy traffic ubuntu repo? ;-) | |
| * Fujitsu drops some big heavy old Linux servers with 8 CD drives on cafuego_. | |
| <cafuego_> Oh come on, only 20Gb per month | |
| <Fujitsu> Hah. | |
| <Fujitsu> What's in that repo!? | |
| <cafuego_> google earth, secondlife, bcm43xx, inkscape 0.45 | |
| <kgoetz> 4x5 gig files ;) | |
| <cafuego_> hmm, that's right, i was going to edit the log processor | |
| <cafuego_> ... but Apache::Logmonster won't build. | |
| <cafuego_> where is adam kennedy? | |
| <praetorian> sounds like perl voodoo | |
| <Hit3k> i'll perl voodoo you | |
| <elkbuntu> bimberi, -au has already had it's loco allocation of edgy cds and then some | |
| <elkbuntu> yama, you're better off approaching marilize directly | |
| <pschulz01> G'day.. | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: Did you get my email? | |
| <elkbuntu> pschulz01, yah | |
| <pschulz01> Ta :-) | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: The Event at Mawson Lakes was excellent. there were a couple of things that worked out really well.. mostly around the 'One Laptop per Child'.. | |
| <elkbuntu> well the OLPC is a definate 'shiny | |
| <pschulz01> .. bu we introduced a lot of people to Linux and Ubuntu. | |
| <elkbuntu> 'shiny' | |
| <elkbuntu> cool | |
| <pschulz01> The Adeladie Sunday Mail had an article on it yesterday as well.. and Joel has just finished an interview for the Australian.. watch out for it. | |
| <pschulz01> Adelaide | |
| <pschulz01> Kim and Janet was talking to people about event an Linux before they came along, and the response was.. "yeah, I read about it in the paper" | |
| <pschulz01> :-) | |
| <pschulz01> 'and Linux' | |
| <shenki> Laptop astounds student | |
| <shenki> i'm astounded | |
| <shenki> :P | |
| <pschulz01> The event wasn't advertised in the article, but it was definitely a talking point... being able to say.. "... and here is the laptop that was in the photo.. and here is Joel.. as seen in the paper." | |
| <kgoetz> shenki: is it feeling better? | |
| <shenki> the laptop? hmm, the battery doesn't work anymore :( | |
| <shenki> at all | |
| <shenki> as in, as soon as you remove the power plug, it shuts off | |
| <pschulz01> Si ti wasn't me hitting the power button then? | |
| <pschulz01> So it.. | |
| <kgoetz> shenki: fark. at least it works (you might be able to poke at its battery later) | |
| <shenki> yeah | |
| <shenki> apparantly they've got some firmware in testing that recovers batteries by trickle charging | |
| <kgoetz> that would be... required? | |
| <kgoetz> (iun the field) | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: kids pulling the charger for 24 hours. | |
| <shenki> no | |
| <shenki> because they won't have broken firmware that kills batteries in the field | |
| <shenki> http://people.ubuntu.org.au/~shenki/ | |
| <kgoetz> ah, so it was the firmwares fault | |
| <pschulz01> shenki: where is ubuntu.org.au hosted? | |
| <shenki> i believe | |
| <shenki> pschulz01: somewhere slow :) | |
| <shenki> Fujitsu: where's ubuntu.{com, org}.au hosted? | |
| <pschulz01> Sllloooowwwwwww!!!!!! | |
| <Fujitsu> shenki: On a LoCo-dedicated ServerPronto box in the US. | |
| <cafuego_> Serverpronto | |
| <shenki> hanging off a dialup connection? :P | |
| <cafuego_> No, australia is. | |
| <shenki> :D | |
| <Fujitsu> That server is on a really fast connection. | |
| <shenki> hmm, it must peer really badly with .au's links | |
| <Fujitsu> AU's connection to it just sucks. Same with the connection to LP. | |
| <shenki> coz it goes so slow | |
| <adhoc> shenki: did you send an email to linuxsa about miniconfs? | |
| * cafuego_ watches ftp.au.debian.org die | |
| <shenki> adhoc: the linux-aus email was cc'd to linuxsa | |
| <adhoc> ok cool, just linking a face to a nick ... | |
| <shenki> adhoc: you work at its? | |
| <Fujitsu> cafuego_: That and mirror.pacific.net.au seemed to be missing etch entirely this morning... | |
| <adhoc> uh huh | |
| <shenki> adhoc: which part? | |
| <cafuego_> Fujitsu: youch | |
| <shenki> etch came out? | |
| <Fujitsu> What's its problem now? | |
| <cafuego_> the LA mirror seems up (but slow) | |
| <adhoc> shenki: the bit where i get to mess with servers | |
| <Fujitsu> cafuego_: I ended up moving to ftp.wa.au.d.o | |
| <adhoc> like mail | |
| <shenki> adhoc: ah, cool. so you work with kim? | |
| <cafuego_> Fujitsu: error 500 | |
| <Fujitsu> shenki: Of course not! | |
| <adhoc> and eat schnitzel | |
| <Fujitsu> shenki: Debian... releasing? I think not. | |
| <shenki> Fujitsu: :D | |
| <cafuego_> shenki: adhoc isn't allowed to work with kim | |
| <adhoc> cafuego_: ssssh | |
| * shenki wonders if adhoc and kim are the same person | |
| <cafuego_> there was some trouble in the past | |
| * adhoc is the secret identity | |
| <shenki> heh | |
| <shenki> well, i think it's funny that you get to have an its in your hostname | |
| * shenki wonders what it looks like to irc from staff.cs | |
| <shenki> hmm, what text based irc client might be installed on a RHEL4 box? | |
| <cafuego_> irssi | |
| <siccness> irssi | |
| <shenki> nup | |
| <cafuego_> if all else fails, it'll have | |
| <cafuegr> telnet | |
| <siccness> bitchx | |
| <cafuego_> ircii | |
| <cafuego_> cafuegr: you suck | |
| <shenki> doesn't the X mean not-text? | |
| <cafuego_> shenki: not in case of bitchx | |
| <shenki> ok | |
| <shenki> well, no love either way | |
| <cafuego_> shenki: I think they thought 'bitch' was too crude, so they appended an x. | |
| <shenki> haha | |
| <shenki> should have put two more | |
| <cafuego_> epic4? | |
| <shenki> go get the australia tomorrow peoples | |
| <shenki> read about mr nick | |
| <shenki> and his special little laptop | |
| * cafuego_ has played with one already | |
| <shenki> the australian too | |
| * shenki owns one | |
| <shenki> :D | |
| <cafuego_> you suck | |
| <shenki> i win! | |
| <cafuego_> can I borrow it? | |
| <shenki> http://people.ubuntu.org.au/~shenki/JoelSundayMail.pdf | |
| <shenki> no | |
| <cafuego_> it's for a _good_ reason, promise | |
| <shenki> what's that? | |
| <shenki> looking at porn at 200dpi? | |
| <cafuego_> To show it to teachers at the LUV Education SIG | |
| <shenki> where you from? | |
| <cafuego_> melbun | |
| <cafuego_> there's only 2 in the country, in SA and WA, right? | |
| <shenki> hehe | |
| <pschulz01> cafuego: You might need to offer to fly the custodian over :-) | |
| <shenki> that's what the article says, so it must be right | |
| <shenki> :P | |
| <cafuego_> shenki: <hehe> | |
| <shenki> nah, the reporter got it wrong | |
| <cafuego_> shenki: I know the others who were going to receive them are getting newer models, later this year | |
| <shenki> i know that james cameron has about 4 | |
| <shenki> who's 'the others'? | |
| <shenki> i plan to google soc it up with an olpc, maybe they'll give me a new one then | |
| <cafuego_> shenki: the people who requested one at LCA, and team7 | |
| <shenki> ah, ok | |
| <shenki> yeah | |
| <pschulz01> cafuego: Wahoo!!! | |
| <cafuego_> pschulz01: ? | |
| <shenki> i thought that the 7 team were getting one between them? thats what jim told me | |
| <shenki> good old jim | |
| <shenki> :D | |
| <pschulz01> cafuego: You fill in the blanks :-) | |
| <cafuego_> Maybe I'm wrong then, I thought they got 1 at LCA, but they'll all get one later. | |
| <shenki> they didn't get one at lca, coz jim ran out | |
| <cafuego_> pschulz01: I heard Chris Blizzard say *everyone* who asked for one and put in their piece of paper were going to get one. | |
| <shenki> anyway | |
| <cafuego_> or was that jim | |
| <shenki> jim is the big dude | |
| <shenki> chris is the bearded dude | |
| <cafuego_> yeh | |
| <pschulz01> cafuego_: That was my impression as well.. along with Jims comment about "hoping to have a pallet" at the conference.. | |
| <shenki> i'm going to go have a nap before i go see NoFx, goodnight kiddies | |
| <cafuego_> nap tight :-) | |
| *** Hit3k_ is now known as Hit3k | |
| <siccness> what a mad episode of 24 | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: The GIGABYTE M57SLI-S4 is the first-ever desktop motherboard | |
| <siccness> supported by a Free & Open Source BIOS | |
| <kgoetz> siccness: is that what marketing said? | |
| <shenki> kgoetz: the linuxbios code is in svn :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Oooh where can I get it? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yay it's AMD | |
| <pschulz01> cafuego_: Was there a separate piece of paper that had to be put in? | |
| <cafuego_> pschulz01: just the "i wanna olpc and this is why" | |
| <pschulz01> cafuego_: Wahooo!!!! | |
| <pschulz01> greebs: howdy | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL it's cheaper for me to buy the GA-M57SLI-S4 from the UK than get it locally. | |
| * Davo_Dinkum whistles | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> 10 USB2 ports, 3 firewire ports, 16GB max RAM... | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> And this is a desktop mobo? | |
| <kgoetz> got a link? | |
| <kgoetz> trust me, 10 usb portrs is no use on a server | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> kgoetz: Come to think of it, no it wouldn't be. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> kgoetz: Was just reading this: http://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0702.2/2347.html | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=348418 | |
| <kgoetz> 1st one is good | |
| <elkbuntu> cool | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> The mobo list needs to be updated Still 'WiP' http://linuxbios.org/index.php/Supported_Motherboards | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: eh? 10 USB ports? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Maybe with headers | |
| <siccness> the motherboard that I mentioned has 4 USB ports | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> With headers! | |
| <siccness> ok | |
| <siccness> So, all you'll need is: that mobo, DDR2 modules, and a socket am2 proc | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yep | |
| <siccness> oh and a pci-express video card | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I could still use a PCI one | |
| <siccness> yeah that'd work | |
| * kgoetz has some spare | |
| * Davo_Dinkum nods | |
| <siccness> pick up 20 of them for $5 :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL | |
| <pschulz01> Hi MatthewV | |
| *** cps|out is now known as cps | |
| <MatthewV> pschulz01, hi.. | |
| <MatthewV> hows it going for you? | |
| <MatthewV> :) | |
| <MatthewV> hi cps | |
| <pschulz01> We had an excellent event yesterday :-) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It's a desktop mobo! Why no built in video? | |
| <cps> hi MatthewV | |
| <shenki> cafuego_: i understand what you're talking about then. what jim gettys was meaning was that everyone who requested one would get one eventually, but just not straight away | |
| <MatthewV> pschulz01, what was it? | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: because motherboards with built-in video are called 'buckets-of-shit' | |
| <shenki> siccness: no way. built in video is the only way to get intel video card sweetness | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: the intel server mobos are buckets of shit? | |
| <siccness> shenki: heheh | |
| <siccness> cafuego_: we're not talkin about server mobos | |
| <Fujitsu> shenki: They're going to start making separate ones, aren't they? | |
| * siccness smacks cafuego_ over the head for not payin attention | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: :motherboards with built-in video: | |
| <shenki> siccness: no joke, those cards are awesome. because of their support | |
| <siccness> cafuego_: read the context, sir. | |
| <shenki> Fujitsu: keith packard has said that they should but i dont think they have yet | |
| <cafuego_> No, I'm being pedantic. | |
| <siccness> Indeed. | |
| <pschulz01> MatthewV: IT Discovery Day.. it was organised by Delfin-Lend-Lease to launch a 'community-website'. We got invited (I asked) and gave away Ubuntu CD's and had demo machines setup. | |
| <shenki> and i olpc'd it up | |
| <pschulz01> MatthewV: That's why I had the Edgy CD's to give away. | |
| <siccness> Who's ever done routing on Linux before? | |
| <MatthewV> pschulz01, what were people's thoguths on ubuntu etc? | |
| <MatthewV> *thoughts | |
| <pschulz01> ...and shenki did an excellent job, especially getting into the paper on the day :-) | |
| <shenki> f.t.w. | |
| <pschulz01> MatthewV: Good.. there was a South African woman who know the word, and knew of Mark Shuttleworth. | |
| <pschulz01> but didn;t know the connection. | |
| <MatthewV> pschulz01, :) | |
| <shenki> woah. that's cool | |
| <pschulz01> Her kids were the one hugging the penguin. | |
| <pschulz01> ones | |
| <MatthewV> anyone know if widescreens can present an issue to running fullscreen apps etc? aspect ratio and such? | |
| <shenki> has anyone seen/read "cry the beloved country"? | |
| <MatthewV> i'm considering a new pc | |
| <siccness> MatthewV: conroe baby! | |
| <shenki> MatthewV: i have a widescreen lappy, and a widescreen lcd for my desktop. they both work fine | |
| <MatthewV> shenki, k :) so even things like fullscreen games (not that i'm a gamer) have no issues? | |
| <MatthewV> siccness, um.. how much'd that cost | |
| <MatthewV> this is still in the 'research' stage | |
| <siccness> Depends on the model | |
| <shenki> MatthewV: nah, no worries. some older games are dumb, and just stretch out. but you get used to that pretty damn quick | |
| <MatthewV> siccness, so that means upwards of um $1000 for the cpu? ;) | |
| <siccness> an intel conroe e6600 will set you back around $450 | |
| <MatthewV> shenki, k thanks :) | |
| <MatthewV> siccness, hmm... | |
| * MatthewV examines budget and gets out abacus | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <MatthewV> siccness, so what's the advantages of conroe? just new architecture etc? | |
| <siccness> the fact that it blows the lid off anything else would be the main factor :) | |
| <kgoetz> 'anything else'? | |
| <MatthewV> i was considering putting together a machine around the $1300-1500 mark - something like an amd athlon64 x2 3800+ | |
| <siccness> in such a price range, kgoetz :) | |
| <kgoetz> siccness: what is the price range? | |
| <siccness> Depends on your main purpose for the sytem I guess. | |
| <siccness> for the proc? ~$450 | |
| <MatthewV> well, this one's just going to be an allround system.. bit of this, bit of that, def. beryl, lot of web dev. | |
| <MatthewV> most of which i already do on my p3 | |
| <kgoetz> siccness: about what i paid for my p4 | |
| <siccness> kgoetz: yeah, like 5 years ago :) | |
| <kgoetz> siccness: 3 or 4, yeh ;) | |
| * MatthewV wonders whether it is worth getting oem windows on there | |
| <siccness> Nah man, just built her yourself | |
| <siccness> *build | |
| <MatthewV> siccness, i'm actually looking at that, but you can buy oem windows with all the parts.. | |
| <MatthewV> not that i use windows much, but for the games etc... it might be useful | |
| <MatthewV> only thing is its an extra $150+ | |
| <siccness> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=wiki&tag=rmp_sg_whirlpoolpcs_systems <--provides you with a basic idea | |
| <MatthewV> siccness, i thought you were banned? | |
| <MatthewV> ;) | |
| <siccness> Unbanned now | |
| <kgoetz> siccness: you got yourself banned? | |
| <siccness> yeah | |
| <MatthewV> siccness, hey, the $1500 amd system was almost what i was looking at building... with a few minor changes | |
| <MatthewV> same lcd and everything | |
| <praetorian> http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Practice_Makes_Perfect.aspx | |
| <praetorian> damn management | |
| <cafuego_> MatthewV: I think a C2D is somewhat faster then an AMD62 X2 these days. | |
| <MatthewV> cafuego_, c2d? | |
| <cafuego_> MatthewV: Mind you, all I've tested with are a C2D 6300 (cheep!) and an amd64 3000+ (non-X2) | |
| <Phlosten> praetorian, lol | |
| <cafuego_> MatthewV: intel core 2 duo | |
| <MatthewV> cafuego_, ah thanks | |
| <MatthewV> thats probably the biggest decision i gotta make - intel or amd :) | |
| <cafuego_> if you can afford one, i think you'll get more bang for buck currently | |
| <cafuego_> BUT | |
| <cafuego_> it doesn't clock down as far as the AMDs (not mine anwyay) so it might use more power | |
| <MatthewV> cafuego_, ah, power ain't a concern for me | |
| <MatthewV> i dont pay for it :) | |
| <cafuego_> power == heat | |
| <MatthewV> cafuego_, ah... | |
| <cafuego_> And it should be, even if someone else pays for it | |
| <MatthewV> sry.. i never really had any issues with heat, only running a p3 ;) so thats one area i dont know a thing about | |
| <cafuego_> not so much heat as emissions that you should care about | |
| <MatthewV> cafuego_, yeah i know... i'm seeing way too much of an inconvenient truth | |
| <cafuego_> <heh> | |
| <cafuego_> My parents' house will submerge! | |
| <purserj> I thought it was going to be beach front property? | |
| * MatthewV wonders if now is the time to snatch up cheap beach front property? | |
| * cafuego_ stomps on pam_mount yelling 'you suck!' | |
| <elkbuntu> i hear thunder i hear thunder | |
| * MatthewV runs | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> So all mobos with built in video are crap? | |
| <kgoetz> no | |
| <kgoetz> onboard video is usually far from the newest stuff around | |
| <tuppa> crap as in for gaming, yes | |
| <tuppa> depends on what games you play :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I don't need a whizz bang video card. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> My games are limited to supertux and mahjjong | |
| <cafuego_> Davo_Dinkum: keep in mind, all laptops have builtin video | |
| <MatthewV> anyone tried to dual boot vista and ubuntu? i'm wondering how well they play together | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> And 'Iceweasel' | |
| <cafuego_> Davo_Dinkum: if you want to be open, get a board with intel gfx on top | |
| <kgoetz> Davo_Dinkum: 'iceweasel'? why the quote? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> kgoetz: Cos it's not really a game | |
| <kgoetz> ah | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> cafuego_: Are any of the boards supported by LinuxBIOS using intel gfx? | |
| <cafuego_> Davo_Dinkum: I have 100% no idea | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Heh OK | |
| <elkbuntu> well the thunder seems to have blown one of mums computers :( | |
| <kgoetz> :S | |
| <elkbuntu> a p3 they got to replace the one that had died | |
| <elkbuntu> so, dad is really pissed atm, since his computer has died *again* | |
| <kgoetz> crazy. i've never lost a system to a strike :\ | |
| <elkbuntu> this is behind a belkin surgeboard too | |
| <elkbuntu> so hopefully compensation can be aquired | |
| <henno> so.. the abc website seems to be right broken | |
| <henno> http://abc.net.au/ | |
| <kgoetz> internodes ntp is down as well. wonder if its related | |
| <henno> hmmm.. I doubt it.. I think the abc is server-side, not network related | |
| <henno> meaning someones head is going to roll | |
| <henno> but you never know | |
| <Fujitsu> Sure does look like somebody's head will roll. | |
| <Fujitsu> I wonder how they managed to do that. | |
| * kgoetz hopes he gets to watch | |
| <mruiz> hey all | |
| <Fujitsu> Hi mruiz. | |
| <praetorian> Total: 180 packages (147 upgrades, 2 downgrades, 10 new, 3 in new slots, 18 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 607,211 kB | |
| <elkbuntu> buenas noches mruiz :) | |
| * praetorian updates | |
| <mruiz> buenas noches a todos! | |
| <mruiz> hey elkbuntu , Fujitsu ! | |
| <kgoetz> hi mruiz | |
| <mruiz> hi Karl | |
| <mruiz> where can I find an agenda for the next meeting? | |
| <Fujitsu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings | |
| <mruiz> oh, thanks Fujitsu ! | |
| <siccness> meeting tonight? | |
| <mruiz> tomorrow | |
| <Hit3k> henno, its my head thats gonna roll :( | |
| <Hit3k> pfft yeah right like i'd ever work for the abc | |
| <siccness> I think I worked out what I want to do | |
| <siccness> Either a system admin, or a teacher :| | |
| <kgoetz> teacher? heh | |
| <siccness> Yeah, sounds weird, I know. | |
| <siccness> But there's something about teaching people something that I thoroughly enjoy. | |
| <kgoetz> sure, but wait until you come in contact with students ;) | |
| <Hit3k> siccness, come teaching me networkingz | |
| <siccness> oh i know, kgoetz | |
| <siccness> the wanker students will be kicked out :) | |
| <siccness> Hit3k: i actually have to know the stuff before i can teach :) | |
| <Hit3k> fine | |
| <Hit3k> teach me unix!!! | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> ill teach you 'ping' | |
| <kgoetz> lol | |
| <siccness> and maybe a command such as "cd" | |
| <siccness> but that's pushing it a little | |
| <purserj> I could teach you how to be a eunuch | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| * kgoetz worries what goes on over there | |
| <cafuego_> yaaay | |
| <Phlosten> yay? | |
| <cafuego_> pam_ldap+pam_mount behaving | |
| <Phlosten> woot | |
| <cafuego_> and now to see if it plays nice with gdm | |
| <cafuego_> ahaa, useprivilegeseparation makes it be broken | |
| * romana discovers gdesklets | |
| <Hit3k> romana, great little thing that | |
| <romana> yup | |
| <romana> gnome bar is NICE | |
| <mruiz> Kamping_Kaiser, http://vulcano.mine.nu/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=324 | |
| <kgoetz> mruiz: hey :D | |
| <kgoetz> i only look a bit like a dork :) | |
| <mruiz> :) | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <kgoetz> *saves* | |
| * siccness hits kgoetz with a tennis ball | |
| * kgoetz slaps siccness about with a bowling ball | |
| <siccness> tennis ball hurts more :P | |
| <kgoetz> lol. | |
| <mruiz> lolo | |
| <kgoetz> speaking of bowling balls - have you played with a wii? | |
| <kgoetz> it has 10 pin bowling, how funny is that :) | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> nah that sounds mad tho | |
| <kgoetz> and tennis. its actually quite hilarious | |
| <bimberi> elkbuntu: ah, kk (re: CD allocation). Thanks. | |
| <Hit3k_> wtf | |
| *** Hit3k_ is now known as Hit3k | |
| <kgoetz> Hit3k: ? | |
| <Hit3k> innernetz borked | |
| <kgoetz> yeh, ip change :/ | |
| <Hit3k> that usually doesnt happen till midnight :/ | |
| <Hit3k> well it actually used to happen once a month.. but it seems to be happening everyday | |
| * purserj is glad its not just me | |
| *** Hit3k_ is now known as Hit3k | |
| <abhoc> evenen all | |
| *** cps is now known as cps|Zzz | |
| <merlin-linux> hi abhoc | |
| <kgoetz> ello sir | |
| <abhoc> my sister has been hassling me about doing cover pages and funky page numbering ... | |
| <abhoc> so thought i'd share; | |
| <abhoc> http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/numbering_page/index.html | |
| <abhoc> http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2005/12/different_page_.html | |
| <abhoc> very tidy explianation | |
| <merlin-linux> abhoc: i found the new filter i got | |
| <abhoc> a blog about open office stuff; | |
| <abhoc> http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/ | |
| <abhoc> merlin-linux: cool. do you mind giving it to the SLSC? | |
| <abhoc> merlin-linux: otherwise i can go buy one to give to them... | |
| * abhoc goes to make dinner | |
| <cafuego_> tomorrow he'll be abhor | |
| *** abhoc is now known as abhor | |
| *** abhor is now known as abhorror | |
| *** abhorror is now known as ahorror | |
| <merlin-linux> ahorror: i have no need for it atm | |
| <merlin-linux> ahorror: it what came with my billion 7300 | |
| <kgoetz> who was doing ubuntu on tap at lca? (with the netbooted live cd image?) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Is the OLPC battery powered? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Or does it have a crank? | |
| <kgoetz> yeh | |
| <kgoetz> it has a powerpack | |
| <elkbuntu> kgoetz, lifeless aka robert collins | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Battery life is how long? | |
| <kgoetz> elkbuntu: thanks. | |
| <kgoetz> Davo_Dinkum: dunno. you'd have to ask shenki about that | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> shenki: | |
| <merlin-linux> Davo_Dinkum: the OLPC has plug pack and hand crack to power it | |
| <elkbuntu> kgoetz, if you need a chuckle, see PM | |
| <merlin-linux> and the OLPC use ~4 watts of power at full peak running | |
| <merlin-linux> and the battery is a 22.8 watt hour | |
| <kgoetz> merlin-linux: hand crank? | |
| <merlin-linux> kgoetz: it ment to have one | |
| <kgoetz> merlin-linux: what do you mean 'hand crank'? the thing they decided just wasnt going to work>? | |
| <merlin-linux> it what i have been told and have read in the past | |
| <kgoetz> and are you sure about the battery life? (i'm a bit sus on anything that came out of the paper) | |
| <yama> it depends on the model. Some might have a crank, some a foot pedal and some a lawnmower-like pull-cord | |
| <kgoetz> yama: my understanding is there willb e no crank. perhaps foot pedal and pull cord | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Pull cord sounds good. | |
| <yama> I think it depends on what the purchaser chooses | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I choose you, pull cord! | |
| <merlin-linux> kgoetz: and Davo_Dinkum read here >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Hardware_specification#Specifications | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Boooooo SD slot | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> MMC/CF would have been better. | |
| <elkbuntu> Netsplat! | |
| <kgoetz> kaboom :) | |
| <siccness> hmm | |
| <siccness> what the hell happened then? :| | |
| <elkbuntu> !netsplit | siccness | |
| * elkbuntu goes to hunt nalioth | |
| <siccness> ah net split was it | |
| <kgoetz> wb ubot3 | |
| <elkbuntu> !botsnack | |
| <elkbuntu> !ubuntu | |
| * elkbuntu tilts her head waiting | |
| <elkbuntu> he might as well not be here :( | |
| <kgoetz> there it goes :O | |
| <kgoetz> *pokes ubot3 * | |
| <elkbuntu> !ubuntu | |
| <ubot3> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome | |
| <elkbuntu> yay | |
| <elkbuntu> !botsnack | |
| <ubot3> Yum! | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL Yum | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> !RPM | |
| <ubot3> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah RPM blows | |
| <abhoc> using RPM is quite dangerous | |
| <elkbuntu> Davo_Dinkum, seveas tends to kick me from channels when i suggest redoing it to be Apt! | |
| <abhoc> i used up2date to upgrade a redhat AS4 box and it killed the rpm database dead. cold. stone. | |
| <abhoc> elkbuntu: why? | |
| <purserj> urggh, once again up2date eats another box | |
| <elkbuntu> abhoc, because he finds it fun | |
| <abhoc> elkbuntu: oh | |
| <elkbuntu> abhoc, and it would sound quite stupid out of context if it was redone | |
| <abhoc> purserj: it didn't help that the /usr/lib/site-perl directory was a link to a read only NFS file system =/ | |
| <purserj> you what now? | |
| <siccness> does anyone know if its possible to call a function from a function using a function parameter in bash? | |
| <abhoc> purserj: we changed that, but you gotta watch these perl programmers =) | |
| <abhoc> siccness: why not? | |
| <abhoc> damn how did it get so late so fast! | |
| <purserj> well making it read only means you get to watch those perl programmers heads explode | |
| <abhoc> ? | |
| <siccness> abhoc: beats me, im surprised i made sense | |
| <purserj> siccness: you didn't | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <abhoc> siccness: maybe im tired and it makes perfect sense | |
| <siccness> i dunno of a better way to explain it :| | |
| <abhoc> you want to make a function call recursively? | |
| <abhoc> or you want to pass a function as a parameter in a fucntion? | |
| <siccness> the latter | |
| <abhoc> ise switch/case statements and pass strings | |
| <siccness> in which the function can then call the original function from the parameter | |
| <abhoc> you only want to do that crazy crack smoking palaver in C | |
| <abhoc> or maybe assembly, but not in sh | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> i think i might actually be complicating what the teacher is asking us to do if anything | |
| <siccness> then again, the assignment overview makes no sense | |
| <abhoc> whats the question? | |
| <siccness> abhoc: http://124.191.214.110/~siccness/pastebin.php | |
| <siccness> whoops | |
| <siccness> http://124.191.214.110/~siccness/pb_view.php?id=2 <--that one | |
| *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Bye | |
| *** cps|Zzz is now known as cps | |
| *** cps is now known as cps|out | |
| *** greeb is now known as greebo |