| <romana> jeff waugh in floss weekly podcast | |
| <romana> excellent fun! | |
| <Phlosten> morning all | |
| <romana> hey phlosten | |
| <pschulz01_> Phlosten: Morning | |
| <purserj> hey Phlosten | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl: | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> This is great publicity for Ubuntu. If ESR can use Ubuntu - any idiot can. Possibly Linux for Human beings should become Linux for Hominids to be more inclusive of the ESR types. | |
| <romana> hehe linuxsa response:) | |
| <romana> i rofled at that | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, thats classic | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser unsubscribed from sounder, as i'm guesing this announcement will sent it crazy | |
| <romana> sounder? | |
| <purserj> sounder is the offtopic list for ubuntu | |
| <romana> oh | |
| <romana> definitely high volume on this then;) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> yep. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> anyhow. heading out again :) see you all this eve | |
| <romana> ttfn | |
| <Phlosten> ESR? | |
| <purserj> Eric Raymond | |
| <Phlosten> the downside of having zero smokers in this house. you can never find a lighter when you need one | |
| * Phlosten goes to find two sticks | |
| <wongy> morning all! | |
| <merlin-linux> hiya all, how are we all? | |
| *** cps is now known as cps|out | |
| <Phlosten> hey merlin-linux, doing good here, hows yourself? | |
| <merlin-linux> Phlosten: hi, not so good. i think i coming down with the flu | |
| <merlin-linux> thanks to my mum who bought it home | |
| <Phlosten> silly parents | |
| <purserj> hmm? | |
| <Phlosten> dammit, torrent download stuck queued at 95% | |
| <nrdb> can anyone tell my why the hd command isn't displaying all of a file, 0x50 and 0x7f all I get displayed is one '*' symbol | |
| <Phlosten> nrdb: man hd look at -v option | |
| <Phlosten> without -v option it will replace groups of data with a * | |
| <siccness> Afternoon all. | |
| <merlin-linux> hiya siccness, how are you? | |
| <siccness> Not bad thanks merlin-linux, except I gotta write a BASH script :| | |
| <siccness> How about yourself? | |
| <merlin-linux> yeah not to bad i guess | |
| *** klepas_ is now known as klepas | |
| <Phlosten> burp! | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Fujitsu | |
| <romana> yup | |
| *** Fujitsu changes topic to "Welcome to the Official Australian Ubuntu LoCo Team channel! || Meetings: 0900UTC, day TBD. See http://ubuntu.org.au/meeting-prefs || Mailing list: http://ubuntu.org.au/go/mlist || Please abide by the Ubuntu Code of Conduct whilst in this channel: http://ubuntu.com/community/conduct || <MistaED3> i don't like the line-ex pronunciation" | |
| *** Fujitsu sets mode: -o Fujitsu | |
| <Phlosten> time for windows server 2003 take 2 | |
| <Fujitsu> Phlosten: Why? | |
| <Phlosten> need to install it for Tafe work, got a copy yesterday and tried installing it yesterday but the key they gave me was a dud | |
| <romana> Phlosten: i am so sorry mate | |
| <Phlosten> sorry that I have to be tortured with server 2k3? | |
| <romana> yup:)\ | |
| <Phlosten> I am learning how to do everything the linux way as they teach us the server 2k3 way :) | |
| <romana> lol | |
| <Phlosten> one of the practicals later this year will be for us to integrate linux with a windows network | |
| <siccness> does anyone here know much about /var/log/messages? | |
| <siccness> and the lines of authentication failure | |
| <Phlosten> siccness: what are you needing to know? | |
| <siccness> the difference between 'ruser' and 'user'? | |
| <Phlosten> its not root user ? | |
| <cafuego_> probably remote user | |
| <Phlosten> that sounds more like it | |
| <siccness> cafuego_: yeah | |
| <siccness> it isn't clear what my assignment wants ahh well | |
| <siccness> Top 5 most failed login attempts, with usernames and how many times | |
| <siccness> they failed to logged in | |
| <siccness> im not sure whether it means user or ruser | |
| <cafuego_> if I had any failed logins in my log i'd assist ;-) | |
| <siccness> i have failed logins | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: go 'user'. | |
| <siccness> yah | |
| <cafuego_> grep / sort / uniq -cd / sort | |
| <siccness> do you have ssh? | |
| <siccness> yeah i know : | |
| <siccness> i have it all done | |
| <cafuego_> yes, but key auth | |
| <siccness> hmm | |
| <siccness> cuz the next one wants: Top 5 most successful login locations | |
| <siccness> i only have unsuccessful login locations | |
| <Phlosten> hooley dooley, time to head to school | |
| <Phlosten> cya all | |
| <Tatey> I might just hey guys | |
| <Tatey> errr | |
| <Tatey> minus the first 3 words ) | |
| <Tatey> :) | |
| <siccness> Hey | |
| <Tatey> what's happening? | |
| <siccness> just writin up a bashy in a non-evil distro, you? :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Who wants an iBook? $800 | |
| * Davo_Dinkum needs to get rid of this iBook | |
| <Tatey> no, buy my iBook $800 | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Tatey> I'm serious... | |
| <Tatey> a non-evil distro... I thought you used Gentoo? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How do second chance offers work on ebay? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Are there any other X Window System desktop environments | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> apart from KDE, GNOME and Xfce? | |
| <henno> Davo_Dinkum: enlightenment | |
| <henno> and CDE I suppose | |
| <henno> I think 'technically' enlightenment is a window manager, but E17 is more and more becoming a DE with the bundled tools | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yeah I'm after a full DE. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I need automounting etc | |
| <Tatey> Davo_Dinkum: basically, no. KDE, GNOME or Xfce are DE's | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I should use Xfce. GNOME sucks too much ram. | |
| <Tatey> what exactly do you want from a DE? | |
| <Tatey> how much RAM do you have? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> 768MB currently, but that may change when I get another notebook (bidding on ebay for one ATM) | |
| <Tatey> I wouldn't be worrying about GNOME memory consumption with that much RAM | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Tatey: Having iceweasel always open doesn't help :( | |
| <Tatey> when I was using GNOME, I was lucky to exceed 250MB of RAM useage | |
| <Tatey> No, Mozilla isn't the easiest on memory. It certainly isn't that bad either | |
| <Tatey> have you looked at using Opera? | |
| <Tatey> admittedly, Opera is non-free | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yes, that's why I haven't looked at using Opera. | |
| <Tatey> Konqueror's KHTML WebCore engine is very clean and fast | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Eeew konqy as a web browser | |
| <Tatey> well, it's faster than Firefox | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I like my file manager and web browser *seperate* | |
| <Tatey> fair enough | |
| <Tatey> *fair enough | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Ahh your spelling was correct? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *correct | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Stupid QWERTY | |
| <Tatey> heh | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I should make my own layout | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Actually I want a frog keypad | |
| <Tatey> hah | |
| <siccness> Hahaha, took out another piece of the fence | |
| <henno> if you can't run gnome/kde/whatever with 768MB or RAM, something is seriously wrong | |
| <henno> I am not even using 256 total memory, and that is including a lot of server processes | |
| *** cps|out is now known as cps | |
| <henno> mysql, pgsql, apache, lighttpd, samba, you name it, I have it enabled on this machine | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I can, but I'd rather leave the RAM free for iceweasel/VLC/gnome-terminal/comix/etc | |
| <henno> plus, I have both opera and firefox open atm | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I watch XVID files in VLC, so that takes up RAM | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> each XVID file is about 175MB | |
| <henno> err.. so | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It's loaded into memory. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> bbl | |
| <henno> so if you watch a DVD with VLC you think you need >*GB of ram? | |
| <henno> come on | |
| <henno> 8GB* | |
| * henno plays a 200MB xvid file | |
| <henno> my memory usage went up a grand total of 30MB | |
| *** jhawtin_ is now known as lucychili | |
| <Rothbuntu> >:o ny network is fuxord | |
| <Rothbuntu> 24 mins to transfer 350 meg | |
| <Hit3k> not good Rothbuntu | |
| <romana> urp | |
| <romana> thats nt too healthy | |
| <henno> my calculations tell me your network speed is 248.8888888888888889KB/s | |
| <henno> == dodgy | |
| <Hit3k> KB/s or Kb/s? | |
| <henno> KB | |
| <cafuego_> That's around 2.5Mbit eh | |
| <henno> 1991.111111111111111 Mbit? | |
| <henno> oopsies | |
| * henno carries the one.. and himself back to grade 8 | |
| <cafuego_> it's round about what i can do upstream | |
| <henno> 1.991111111111111111 Mbit | |
| <Rothbuntu> something has gone horriably wrong >_< | |
| <Rothbuntu> every hdd in my house is DED | |
| <cafuego_> humidity? | |
| <cafuego_> heat? | |
| <cafuego_> karma? | |
| <Rothbuntu> noobs i think | |
| <Rothbuntu> tiem for basketball BBL | |
| <mruiz> hello all | |
| <romana> hello | |
| <Hit3k_> parents are pissed cause i didnt go over my download limit | |
| <Hit3k_> "DOWNLOAD SOMETHING" | |
| <elkbuntu> Hit3k, what. the. f... | |
| <Hit3k_> i know they were being sarcastic | |
| <Hit3k_> great stuff though right :D | |
| <romana> im always saying that to my kids | |
| <romana> see, 20gb not enough | |
| <romana> so we have 40gb limit | |
| <romana> but if we dont make it, im yellign at them to commence teh suckage | |
| <romana> goddess knows, there is enough crap anime on youtube to occupy them:) | |
| <elkbuntu> well it does make sense. you've already paid for it, you might as well make a decent effort to try use it | |
| <romana> xactly | |
| <romana> yay for youtube | |
| <Hit3k_> they yell at me when i go past it and they yell at me | |
| <Hit3k_> when i dont go past it | |
| <Hit3k_> I cant please my parents!!!!!!!!!!! | |
| <elkbuntu> Hit3k, face it, they're just looking for reasons to pick on you. | |
| <romana> hehe welcome to life:) | |
| <romana> i dont look for reasons to pick on MY kids | |
| <romana> i have so many, why look?;) | |
| <Hit3k_> my mum does :( | |
| <romana> reasons AND kids that is | |
| <Hit3k_> I'm gonna get snipped before i get married. no kids for me. to much trouble. | |
| <Hit3k_> elkbuntu, has it been raining much up there? | |
| <henno> where is 'up there'? | |
| <elkbuntu> Hit3k, cm and a half yesterday. nothing today | |
| <elkbuntu> oh, no, actualy, cm and a half over the whole past week. sorry | |
| <Hit3k_> henno, albury/wodonga/wherever elkbuntu is i forget | |
| <Hit3k_> elkbuntu, more then we got in melbourne i think | |
| <elkbuntu> s/\/wherever// and you're fine | |
| <Hit3k_> Did everyone know the creator of the HTTPd was Rob McCool? | |
| <elkbuntu> yep | |
| <henno> I in fact did | |
| <elkbuntu> a name like that is not forgotten easily | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I son't even know what that is. | |
| <Hit3k_> Nope.. Dont think I'll ever forget it | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *don't | |
| <Hit3k_> Davo_Dinkum, http daemon | |
| * Davo_Dinkum makes his own keyboard layout | |
| <henno> Hypertext Transfer Protocol Daemon | |
| <siccness> beer :D | |
| <elkbuntu> henno, s/Hypertext/HyperText/ | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why couldn't it be a demon? | |
| <elkbuntu> apache freaks would have eaten your face off for that | |
| <Hit3k_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPd | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Like I care. | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <henno> elkbuntu is rockin' the regex tonight :) | |
| <elkbuntu> heh | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> C'mon, I *live* on wikipedia. I don't need people throwing me wikipedia links. | |
| <siccness> i do | |
| <henno> clearly you do | |
| <siccness> saves me typing | |
| <henno> oh.. I get it | |
| <siccness> im gonna install a keylogger | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: LOL why? | |
| <siccness> and see how many keys i press a day | |
| <henno> does teh KDE mouse-o-meter exist anymore? | |
| <henno> was it even KDE? | |
| <siccness> no idea, what the hell is kde | |
| <Hit3k_> yes | |
| <siccness> real men use fvwm | |
| <henno> real men use a chisel and stone | |
| <Hit3k_> real men have girlfriends. | |
| <romana> i used to use fvwm | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I have en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ in my web browser history, so I just type in 'en' and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ comes up, then I type in whatever I want to look up after it | |
| <romana> im a real woman | |
| <henno> I am a pretend woman | |
| <henno> only on the weekends | |
| <romana> up until 4 mths or so ago, fvwm, with centericq, mutt, irssi | |
| <romana> hehe 'wheres it goign to gestate, in a box?' | |
| <romana> shall we call you loretta? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> If Xfce stopped sucking I would ditch GNOME in a flash. | |
| <siccness> irssi + screen ownz you. | |
| <henno> siccness: damn righ | |
| <Hit3k_> xfce doesnt suck | |
| <henno> t | |
| <Hit3k_> its just missunderstood | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hit3k_: Yeah probably. | |
| <siccness> no, xfce sucks | |
| <henno> xfce serves it's purpose.. unforunately that purpose is not one of mine | |
| <romana> xfce meh | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: You'd be surprised on how much productivty increases when you ditch GNOME | |
| <romana> its not mine, eitehr i go 90% console/fvwm black no panels | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I don't want any panels in my desktop environment, dammit! They take up valuable screen real estate. | |
| <romana> or i just go gnome | |
| <romana> nbd | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Probably, but how big is the learning curve? | |
| <siccness> Depending on what you go to, really. | |
| <Hit3k_> e17 is my longtime lover | |
| <siccness> I spent one day on OpenBox to get it right, about half a day getting fvwm the way I liked it | |
| <henno> Hit3k_: e17 and I have been having an affair for some time now | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Yeah that's why I avoid WMs. Too much time tweaking it. | |
| <henno> my other WM/DE's do not yet know about 'us' | |
| <Hit3k_> henno, I'll kill you!!!!!!! | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: It's just to get it 'right'. | |
| <siccness> Once you've got it 'right', everything falls into place. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: I want it to be 'right' when I install it, not after 48 hours of tweaking it. | |
| <Hit3k_> brb | |
| <siccness> Well, that's your call really. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yep | |
| <cafuego_> Davo_Dinkum: MacOS X it is, then. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> cafuego_: Eww get stuffed | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> The dock is annoying | |
| <siccness> There's no pleasing you at all, Davo_Dinkum :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: No, no there isn't. | |
| <cafuego_> turn the dock off, then | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> cafuego_: Haha good luck | |
| <siccness> cafuego_: that goes against his I want it to be 'right' when I install it" | |
| <siccness> damn it, missed a quotation. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> There's a button in system preferences is there? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> cafuego_: ^^^ | |
| * cafuego_ pops out his eyes and rolls them around the floor | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> cafuego_ has lost his marbles! | |
| <siccness> 205 line bash script, man that's some hardcore stuff. | |
| <Hit3k_> cant figure out this fvwm stuff | |
| <romana> fvwm rocks | |
| <romana> want to look at mine? | |
| <cafuego_> oh right | |
| <Hit3k_> yeah | |
| <romana> my fvwmrc? | |
| <Hit3k_> sure | |
| <romana> ok, where to send? | |
| <siccness> Hit3k_: fvwm-crystal baby :) | |
| <Hit3k_> uh.... i'll notice it to you romana | |
| <romana> http://www.timelady.com/gallery/d/71-2/gkrellShoot1.jpg | |
| <romana> thats my fvwm | |
| * Davo_Dinkum wants a VGN-T17GP/S bad! http://vaio-online.sony.com/prod_info/vgn-t17gp_s/specifications.html | |
| <romana> menus are right muse click | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <romana> i used yakuake as drop down multiple terminals | |
| <Hit3k_> yakuake is good | |
| <siccness> http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8977/screenshot200702151848tc5.png <--my fvwm | |
| <Hit3k_> sigh brb again | |
| <romana> ok, .fvwm2rc on way | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I've never been a 'windows side by side' person | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Alt+Tab for me | |
| <romana> windows side by side? | |
| <siccness> nah that's shit | |
| <siccness> windows side by side = means you can work on 5 things quickly | |
| <siccness> crack open 5 terminals | |
| <siccness> voila | |
| <romana> i prefer multiple desktops | |
| <romana> tabbed terms | |
| <romana> :) | |
| <siccness> heres my other fvwm screeny: http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/3641/screenshot200702120428zk6.png | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> romana: Yeah I have 6 desktops, probably use about 4 at one time though. | |
| <romana> lol ditto | |
| <Hit3k_> DIY pastebin there siccness ? | |
| <siccness> Of course. | |
| <Hit3k_> I only use up to 2 desktops at a time | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: `screen' much faster than terminals | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: What are you watching? | |
| <siccness> cafuego_: depends | |
| <cafuego_> if you're me, it is ;-) | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: Adam Hill - Advanced Australia Fair (Sung over Working Class Man) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Uhhh, ok..... | |
| <cafuego_> Hills | |
| <cafuego_> he's got an 's' | |
| <siccness> My apologies, cafuego_ :) | |
| <siccness> or sorry, apologie :P | |
| <cafuego_> comedy festival gala? | |
| <siccness> some shit like that yea | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> "Hills was born without a right foot and, in his own words, "nobody really knows why". He wears an artificial right foot." <<< Adam Hills | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> From wiki | |
| <cafuego_> Yes, he does. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> That wasn't a question. | |
| <siccness> His response wasn't an answer, either. | |
| <cafuego_> Just confirming, saeeing as I heard first-hand ;-) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It sure sounded like one. | |
| <siccness> In 2003, Adam scored a minor hit with Working Class Anthem, in which he sang the lyrics of the Australian National Anthem to the tune of Working Class Man, a famous song by iconic Australian rocker Jimmy Barnes <--Minor hit my ass, I'd pay $500 to have him record it in decent quality! | |
| <romana> dude, we were just discussing the hills version in teh richarddawkins forums | |
| <romana> odd | |
| <cafuego_> he does it to many other songs too | |
| <cafuego_> (sing your anthem) | |
| <romana> we all said that was the one version wed like to have as national anthem | |
| <siccness> yeah | |
| <romana> isnt MY anthem | |
| <romana> it blows chunks | |
| <siccness> it's definitely my choice. | |
| <cafuego_> you an aussie? | |
| <romana> yes:) | |
| <romana> i refuse to accept it | |
| <cafuego_> I'm afraid it is, then. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Is that a retorical question? | |
| <romana> NOOOO | |
| <siccness> Mind you, I'd be happy with Jimmy Barnes - * [wild card] for an anthem | |
| <cafuego_> you HAVE to have it! It's the law! | |
| <cafuego_> John Howard would come and natter at you if you didn't! | |
| <siccness> Barnes - Driving Wheels :D | |
| <Hit3k_> Barnes came out of surgery all right? | |
| <romana> yup | |
| <romana> he will beup and screaming soon | |
| <siccness> of course, his body is 99% alcohol | |
| <cafuego_> *insert snide comment* | |
| <siccness> strong stuff | |
| <romana> and amphetimines | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I need a desktop computer dammit. | |
| <siccness> he's been up and down this road so many times | |
| <siccness> the man of his own, and searching just keeps him proving, that only the road, can tame the rebel in his soul | |
| <MistaED> deep | |
| <romana> dude | |
| <romana> i so want to wave a lighter in this channel | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Don't my notebook is already too hot. | |
| <siccness> its the rhythm of the highway, as he rolls on down, and city lights as they fade from sight, drives the man behind the driving wheels :D | |
| *** allan__ is now known as Hit3k_ | |
| <romana> yeah,my notebook is ON a book, so not on me | |
| <romana> im having to liie down due to back again, so its sodding inconvenient | |
| <siccness> opensourcehowto.org os cool | |
| <siccness> *is | |
| <Hit3k_> do they have a pastebin howto? | |
| <siccness> Hm? | |
| *** pschulz01_ is now known as grumpybettong | |
| <Hit3k_> im interested in writing a pastebin | |
| <siccness> Not a difficult thing | |
| <Hit3k_> i know but i havnt coded php in ages | |
| <siccness> I just threw mine into a mysql db | |
| <siccness> and spat it out | |
| <siccness> i havent bothered with syntax highlighting/colouring | |
| * Davo_Dinkum notices typo on opensourcehowto.org | |
| <purserj> the blogging package? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> "to *proved* a number o" | |
| * Davo_Dinkum wonders how he would go with a 10" screen | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Anyone here use a small screen notebook (<12")? | |
| *** allan__ is now known as Hit3k_ | |
| *** Pengo is now known as Hit3k | |
| <Hit3k_> I hate the innernetz | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What are you doing? | |
| <Hit3k_> nothing | |
| <Hit3k_> it just d/ced me | |
| <siccness> Hmm | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Oh no! siccness is thinking! Run! | |
| <siccness> Hahaha | |
| <rimmington> hey | |
| <rimmington> it's good to see that ubuntu has a good aussie user base :) | |
| <siccness> I thought you said 'good aussie user beer' | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL ask siccness what he uses then | |
| <rimmington> ok, what do you use siccness :P | |
| <siccness> don't just ask me, 40% of this channel doesnt even use ubuntu :) | |
| <siccness> <--gentoo mate | |
| * cafuego_ will beat you when you finally turn up at LUV | |
| <rimmington> did you do a full stage 1 install?? | |
| <siccness> cafuego_: haha | |
| <siccness> rimmington: have done so before, but stg3 is easier | |
| <cafuego_> rimmington: Yes, it's still going, that's why he never comes to luv meetings. | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> smart ass :P | |
| <rimmington> lol | |
| * cafuego_ cna keep going like that for weeks ;-) | |
| <rimmington> which luv are you people in? | |
| <cafuego_> um | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Who said I was in a LUV? | |
| <cafuego_> luv = linux users of victoria | |
| <siccness> lug = linux user group | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *lug | |
| <rimmington> soz, i got those 2 mixed up :P | |
| <siccness> rimmington: happens to the best of us | |
| <siccness> wheres my damn beer | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: it does in fact not happen to me. | |
| <purserj> and besides, Ubuntu now has ESR as a cheer leader | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL this guy is trying to show LCD backlight leakage using screenshots. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I don't think he understands how screenshots work. | |
| <purserj> can gentoo honestly say they have someone of ESR's "stature" ;) | |
| <cafuego_> purserj: Which bit are you referring to specifically? | |
| <siccness> yes | |
| <siccness> purserj: some random bloke down the street | |
| <purserj> cafuego_: you missed ESR's dummy spit on the fedora lists? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I'm so jumping ship. I don't want ESR using the same distro as me. | |
| <cafuego_> purserj: What would I need to go neara fedora list for? | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: hahaha | |
| <cafuego_> purserj: Did he crack the shits about media support? | |
| <siccness> ESR appears to be a nutcase | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> cafuego_: Yeah he did. | |
| <purserj> let me find the original email | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Umm, appears? | |
| <cafuego_> Why didn't he go with Mint then? | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: heh | |
| <purserj> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-February/msg01006.html | |
| <cafuego_> Davo_Dinkum: To be fair, inability to use Youtube, watch DVDs and play MP3s on a default install does make people not want to use Linux. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Kamping_Kaiser: Where's that ASCII art you found before? | |
| <purserj> summary, ESR broke something, decided it was the entire fedora communities fault and wrote a massive dummy spit and left for ubuntu | |
| <cafuego_> purserj: As long as the fedora community shrugged and went on doing what it was doing before, i see no problem | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> Does that mean ESR is going to join ubuntu mailing-lists and whinge? | |
| <Rothbuntu> IT WAS AN EPIC DRAW | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: just imagine him evetually ending up on debian-legal | |
| <Rothbuntu> linux sucks because i can use it <--- :S | |
| <Rothbuntu> >_< can = cant | |
| <purserj> cafuego_: I think the general consensus was "Don't let the door hit you on the way out" | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL | |
| <cafuego_> MEOW! | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL best response>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-February/msg01016.html | |
| <allan__> GOD | |
| *** allan__ is now known as Hit3k_ | |
| *** Pengo is now known as Hit3k | |
| *** Hit3k_ is now known as Hit3k | |
| <Rothbuntu> octopus yiros FTW | |
| <TheMuso> Could everybody please check to see whether they can resolve themuso.com? Just a 'host themuso.com' will do. Thanks. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> themuso.com has address 208.97.162.217 | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yup^^^ | |
| <TheMuso> thanks | |
| <TheMuso> Ok folks, no need any longer. | |
| <TheMuso> Worked out the problem. | |
| <siccness> gnomebaker& | |
| <siccness> bah, wrong window. sorry | |
| <Hit3k> lolzburn | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Damn macmod used to be good, but they redesigned their site, and now there's junk everywhere. | |
| <Hit3k> lol | |
| <siccness> Holy shit, the room I'm staying at tomorrow night has the following: double bed, full ensuite, microwave, kettle, toaster, fridge, tv, access to wireless internet for $90 a night | |
| <Hit3k> and you have noone to spend it with? :p | |
| <siccness> Hah. I have my teddy bear | |
| <cafuego_> ehlo adhoc | |
| <Hit3k> isnt that like.. some hairy gay guy? | |
| <adhoc> siccness: is it a beer can holder in dusguise? | |
| <rob_melb> cafuego_ ow school go | |
| <siccness> yeah, stubby holder mate :)\ | |
| <siccness> im gonna get hammered watchin the footy tomorrow night | |
| <Hit3k> lucky :( | |
| <purserj> whos playing? | |
| * adhoc has an air-stream stubbie holder and a trolltech one ;) | |
| <siccness> no idea | |
| <cafuego_> rob_melb: all good, got zimbra talking to their novell edirectory, wrote some unattended migration scripts, found a firewall problem. | |
| <Hit3k> adhoc, send me the trolltech one :p | |
| * purserj gave his google stubbyu holder to the kids | |
| <adhoc> purserj: it obviusly doesn matter | |
| <purserj> adhoc: heh | |
| <cafuego_> rob_melb: Just no time left to splice ubuntu into their zenworks image server | |
| <siccness> adhoc: i got two naked girl ones, vb one, and a "all beer is good" one | |
| <adhoc> Hit3k: hands off sunshine, you're not old enought to drink yet! | |
| <Hit3k> :( | |
| <siccness> the two naked girl ones are Woodstock Bourbon ones | |
| <adhoc> hmmm ... pass | |
| <adhoc> i might get beaten by the missus if i get any | |
| <rob_melb> cafuego: y'll never get those shirts over that head, after all that sucsess | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <cafuego_> rob_melb: HUGE, just HUGE | |
| <adhoc> hey cafuego_ =) | |
| <adhoc> cafuego_: whats luverly melbourne like this evenen? | |
| <siccness> do motels allow eskies? | |
| <cafuego_> adhoc: vile and humid | |
| <adhoc> same here then | |
| <rob_melb> nite all | |
| <siccness> night mate | |
| <Hit3k> night | |
| <cafuego_> sleep lightly, rob_melb | |
| <cafuego_> muahaHAHAHAHA! | |
| <siccness> Hahaha | |
| <adhoc> night rob_melb | |
| * purserj ducks outside for a smoke and to watch the lightning | |
| <siccness> oo smoko break is it | |
| <adhoc> hmmm ... lightneing means rain right ... | |
| <siccness> not always | |
| <adhoc> send some of that our way damn it! | |
| <cafuego_> adhoc: just lightning, no rain | |
| <purserj> not a hell of a lot of rain | |
| <cafuego_> so unless you want fires... | |
| <adhoc> damn | |
| <purserj> yeah | |
| <cafuego_> phone | |
| <Hit3k> I wish the bom would get the weather right. | |
| <siccness> yeah, it's not what i'd consider accurate. | |
| <siccness> then again, weather people have never really been on the ball | |
| <Hit3k> yeah | |
| <cafuego_> Hit3k: it's not easy,. seeing as melbourne weather == /dev/urandom | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <Hit3k> cafuego_, true | |
| <cafuego_> interesting boundary with antarctic storms vs. hot interior, if they're 100km off in predicting a front, the weather is completely different | |
| <cafuego_> that said, the boring weather in broome rocks | |
| <adhoc> for HOUR in `seq 1 24` ; do weather=`dd if=/devrandom of=- bs=1 count=1 ; done | |
| <Hit3k> thats it im moving somewhere cold. | |
| <siccness> adhoc: too much time on your hands mate | |
| <Tatey> Gentoo | |
| <adhoc> what sdo you think i do al day... | |
| * siccness smacks Tatey | |
| <Hit3k> I'd have to agree with siccness there mate | |
| <adhoc> Tatey: is right, if you run gentoo, you must have too much time on your hands ... | |
| <purserj> hmm this is why I never have gaim on | |
| <Hit3k> whys that purserj? | |
| <adhoc> purserj: whys that? | |
| <siccness> amazingly, im the only gentoo user who doesn't update | |
| <Hit3k> hahaha | |
| <siccness> so really, gentoo is no work for me :) | |
| <purserj> adhoc: bots | |
| <Hit3k> I never updated my gentoo system | |
| <adhoc> siccness: your just lazy! =P | |
| <siccness> pretty much yeah | |
| * cafuego_ had better go and fetch his lovely wife | |
| <adhoc> siccness: it takes me about 5minutes per week to keep all my boxes up to date =P | |
| <siccness> there's actually no real reason for me to use gentoo | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: s/me/anyone/ | |
| <siccness> but, because ive never ran into an issue, i dont really need to change | |
| <MistaED> what about the ricer points? | |
| <siccness> unlike when i was using ubuntu, nothing but errors man | |
| <purserj> meh, lesson learnt with gentoo, make sure you're on the correct profile when building first off | |
| <siccness> bugs, diseases, errors, BSoDs | |
| <cafuego_> MistaED: Only if you have glowy LED fans and wings | |
| <praetorian> for HOUR in `seq 0 23`; do echo "This episode of 24 tasks place between $HOUR:00:00 and $(($HOUR+1)):00:00"; sleep 60m; done | |
| <siccness> Gentoo is better than Arch though, Arch doesn't actually install :P | |
| <adhoc> siccness: your confusing ubuntu with windows mat | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Tatey> you don't install | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <MistaED> i get a BSOD with ubuntu when xorg or the nvidia driver breaks :P | |
| <adhoc> interesting, internode ahve a buncha packages missing from their ubuntu mirror | |
| <Hit3k> odd... | |
| <MistaED> also the aiptek tablet driver makes xorg fail if it's not plugged in | |
| <adhoc> MistaED: thats the proprietry one? | |
| <MistaED> adhoc: yeah | |
| *** cps is now known as cps|out | |
| <adhoc> MistaED: well then | |
| <adhoc> unless you run dual haed there no reason | |
| <MistaED> haha adhoc, i heavily rely on my 3d accelerator :) | |
| <adhoc> what for? | |
| <MistaED> and it doesn't involve games or beryl | |
| <MistaED> maya and soon blender | |
| <adhoc> ah opk, i'll pay that | |
| <adhoc> how much did you maya for linux cost? | |
| <siccness> <--vesa user here | |
| <MistaED> i mean it BSOD's when lupine's repo isn't in sync with the kernel, just that error message saying "xorg can't start" | |
| <adhoc> siccness: old video hardware? | |
| <adhoc> trident 900 perhaps? | |
| <siccness> nope | |
| <praetorian> he bought it when he was a boy! | |
| <siccness> ati x1300 pro | |
| <siccness> im just too lazy to do anything | |
| <MistaED> adhoc: hah, i'm a student atm and plan to buy it when i get a job (or convert to blender) | |
| <adhoc> so it seems | |
| <adhoc> MistaED: convert to blender ;) | |
| <siccness> i have no reason for anything other really | |
| <siccness> all i do is use firefox/gaim and 30 terminal windows | |
| <Hit3k> I cant use blender | |
| <praetorian> gimp is complex | |
| * Hit3k loves 3Ds Max | |
| <adhoc> it takes time. but its not too bad | |
| <adhoc> 3ds is easy to use | |
| <adhoc> i have built some neat models in 3ds =) | |
| <adhoc> cars mostly | |
| <MistaED> yes i am very impressed with blender, just i know how to use maya very well | |
| <adhoc> MistaED: all in good time =) | |
| <Hit3k> yeah i did some pretty neat stuff in 3ds | |
| <Hit3k> Mind you | |
| <MistaED> maya > 3dsmax though, can't beat the node-based system | |
| <Hit3k> I still havnt worked it out | |
| <adhoc> Hit3k: you keep worken at it =) | |
| <Hit3k> one of them has a linux port.. i think its... maya... not sure | |
| <MistaED> Hit3k: yep maya, i run it on linux | |
| <Hit3k> oh god it requires compiling.. | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> sounds like something big sicc needs to look at | |
| <adhoc> siccness: yeah, blenders all rouhd thanks mate ;) | |
| <MistaED> in class i was playing around with blender's new sculpt tool, eyes all round ;) | |
| <purserj> For those that care, WIN Television uses blender in production | |
| <adhoc> surprises me not | |
| <adhoc> its cheap | |
| <adhoc> and doesn't invole macromedia adobe or autodesk licencing | |
| <Hit3k> MistaED, may i ask where you got maya for linux? | |
| <MistaED> purserj: really? that's cool | |
| <purserj> heh, actually they have 3d Studio but the director chose blender over it | |
| <adhoc> and that flexlm crap | |
| <MistaED> hit3k: yeah.... i'll tell you in a query window | |
| <purserj> And they've paid for site licences for the Adobe Suite for 25 odd sites | |
| <Hit3k> ok | |
| <adhoc> purserj: thats just crap | |
| <adhoc> we were threatened by adobe | |
| <adhoc> if we didn't have our licencing straight they would sue first | |
| <adhoc> then ask questions later | |
| <purserj> adhoc: well we had managed to put the fear of copyright into the station managers | |
| <adhoc> as an IT manager was enough to want to dump all their products and find something else | |
| <purserj> They insisted on using cracked software in the production process | |
| <adhoc> but the problem was convincing all the graphs to change =( | |
| <adhoc> purserj: yeah because the licencing fscks up all the time =( | |
| <adhoc> purserj: and you end up with un working software becuase there are serious bugs in adobes products =/ | |
| <purserj> nah, it was because the board wouldn't approve any half way decent software | |
| <purserj> well they spent 120,000 on Pinacle stuffs | |
| <purserj> thats each suite | |
| <adhoc> running a leggit office with fully up to date licencing is a full time job in a business of 100 seats | |
| <purserj> yup | |
| <purserj> now try doing it across the country | |
| <adhoc> when you start thinking about 25 apps per desktop | |
| <adhoc> purserj: i understand | |
| <MistaED> so purserj, you work at win television? that's quite cool | |
| <purserj> MistaED: I used to | |
| <purserj> In the head office | |
| <purserj> MistaED: where abouts are you? | |
| <MistaED> purserj: a student currently at a place called qantm in sydney, learning maya | |
| <purserj> right | |
| <MistaED> hoping for a job soon, the course ends in april :) | |
| <Hit3k> g'night | |
| <MistaED> night hit3k | |
| <MistaED> missed | |
| <adhoc> by > < much | |
| <siccness> well im buggered, night all. | |
| <adhoc> damn that teddy bear! | |
| <adhoc> and how | |
| <adhoc> i am tired and needing of sleep | |
| <adhoc> byeeeeeeeeee | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Later people. | |
| <MotherLUG> Hey Ho | |
| <MotherLUG> I can't be all alone in here at this hour | |
| <elkbuntu> yes. sorry. | |
| <elkbuntu> :Þ | |
| <adhoc> =O | |
| <MotherLUG> oh you cheeky monkeys | |
| * purserj is playing around with myth | |
| <elkbuntu> ooh ooh. ahh ahh | |
| <MotherLUG> just a little bit | |
| * MotherLUG is getting very frustrated with her laptop atm | |
| <siccness> Sell it on ebay then | |
| <MotherLUG> I don't think so | |
| <MotherLUG> I would blow away windows and install something a little more desireable | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <siccness> Night, again :) | |
| <MotherLUG> ok night siccness | |
| <elkbuntu> you have windows on it? i hope you apologise to it every day | |
| <yama> MotherLUG: what's the matter with your laptop? | |
| <MotherLUG> yama, It's just windows giving me the poo's with the way it operates basically. I just love the way foss stuff runs | |
| <yama> $ sudo mkfs.ext3 -j /media/windows | |
| <yama> (not quite, but you get my drift) | |
| <purserj> elkbuntu: it was a tafe requirement | |
| <yama> how about vmware? | |
| <yama> vmware player is freeware | |
| <purserj> and now its the demo machine for windows based OSS | |
| <yama> great idea | |
| <MotherLUG> yama, elkbuntu move over to localfoss I'll tell you why. | |
| <Tatey> siccness will be back | |
| <twisties> elkbuntu: you herded me here :P | |
| <elkbuntu> twisties, hehe :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> eek. another one | |
| <twisties> So where abouts are you in aus? | |
| <elkbuntu> twisties, regional nsw | |
| <elkbuntu> you? | |
| <twisties> West melbournw | |
| <twisties> melbourne even | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. thats near the other victorians | |
| <twisties> didn't realise there was an au chan. Now I can get potential support from people in the same timezone | |
| <twisties> that speak the same brand of english | |
| <elkbuntu> yeah, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Members to see who might be near you :) | |
| <twisties> :O | |
| <twisties> One lives in my town! | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> run away! | |
| <elkbuntu> twisties, oh, who should we warn? :Þ | |
| <twisties> haha | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser heads off to sleep | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *hugs elkbuntu * gnight | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> welcome twisties , see you soon! | |
| <twisties> Dunno. He lives on the wrong side of the tracks a.k.a the nasty side. (Im sure you all can imagine) | |
| <elkbuntu> night kk | |
| <twisties> catch ya later kaiser | |
| <yama> cya Kamping_Kaiser | |
| * twisties reads the member list | |
| <twisties> Oh you're not too far from me Elk | |
| <elkbuntu> twisties, a safe 3-4 hours :Þ | |
| <twisties> Heh. If you want to think of it that way | |
| <twisties> lol, i completely forgot I has Lamp installing in the background :S | |
| <twisties> had* | |
| <elkbuntu> twisties, hehe, i was just joking | |
| <twisties> ^.^ | |
| <twisties> So how much time do you spend on here? | |
| <elkbuntu> too much time :Þ | |
| <elkbuntu> im the team contact | |
| <twisties> Haha. I would spend more but I play too many PC games which means I have to boot to windows :( and I don't usually come on here unless I hvae a problem | |
| <elkbuntu> twisties, tried out wesnoth yet? | |
| <twisties> ... | |
| <twisties> ? | |
| <elkbuntu> !wesnoth | |
| <elkbuntu> wtf.. we're botless?! | |
| <elkbuntu> :( | |
| <twisties> hmmm bot is getting lazy? | |
| <twisties> rofl | |
| <twisties> ill try it in the main chan? | |
| <elkbuntu> ubotu was getting overloaded, there's supposed to be a seperate implementation of him here | |
| <twisties> Hmmm, doesn't sound like its down my alley | |
| <twisties> Im your run of the mill FPS player | |
| <elkbuntu> worth a try | |
| <yama> twisties: http://www.cubeengine.com/ | |
| <yama> there are several FPS games for gnu/linux | |
| <yama> twisties: you'll find some FPS games if you search in Synaptic | |
| <twisties> I saw one at tafe the other day | |
| <twisties> Friends showed me | |
| <twisties> Can't remember the name of it <_<\ | |
| <twisties> thanks for the link though | |
| <yama> there's also the Doom/Quake and Unreal series which are all available for linux | |
| <yama> anyway, good night everyone | |
| <elkbuntu> night yama | |
| <twisties> are the Unreal series free for linux? | |
| <twisties> or must you pay for the windows version and get the linux install with it? | |
| <twisties> anyone else still up? | |
| <apokryphos> !test | |
| <ubot3> Failed. | |
| <apokryphos> :) | |
| *** cps|out is now known as cps |