<bimberi> pschulz01_: You could get the source and compile - http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=147258
<cafuego_> that odd noise better not be the psu fan on the server
<purserj> sorry, I had beans last night
<cafuego_> no, phew, it's the laptop
<romana> i didnt want to say anything purserj, but there is a distinct arma from yr corner
<bimberi> nah, that's the Steelworks
<romana> impressive
<romana> :)
<purserj> question, is apt-get upgrade still considered safe?
<bimberi> Only if you have a reliable network connection ;P
<pschulz01_> bimberi: Should 'unzip' work? I'm getting 'zipfile corrupt' errors even though the size information is correct.
* purserj sighs, adept does not like internet drop outs
<pschulz01_> Anyone here read french? http://forums.fedora-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=134205
<pschulz01_> (Refers to my previous problem.)
<bimberi> pschulz01_: it should. I even tried it on a Windows box here and it doesn't like the file.
<bimberi> purserj: I hadn't heard that 'upgrade' was unsafe (although I always dist-upgrade)
<purserj> right
<pschulz01_> bimberi: Thanks for that.. I might have to export as png, and use inkscapes 'trace' tool (eugh!)
<bimberi> pschulz01_: yep, I've had a bit of a look and can't find a better way. qcad only exports to non-vector formats :/
<pschulz01_> bimberi: Those large rodents strike again!
<Phlosten> good afternoon all
<romana> yo
<Phlosten> wish I had gigabit ethernet :/
<Phlosten> would make transferring 40gig a bit quicker :)
<Hit3k> lol
<Hit3k> anyone who can help me get my DVD playback working on my laptop will be worshipped by me and whoever else i beat into worshipping with me
<romana> lol yes, it would, and i wish for one too
<romana> what version ubuntu?
<Hit3k> edgy
<Hit3k> !dvd
<ubotwo> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
<romana> whats the problem?
<romana> have you the right codecs? have you installed any codecs? what player are you using?
<Tatey> Hit3k: just make sure you have the win32codecs package installed. If you're trying to play a DVD, install Xine and the associated Xine DVD packages
<Tatey> then use totem-xine
<Hit3k> ah
<Tatey> Xine ftw
<Hit3k> win32codecs... silly Pengo
<Hit3k> hmm
<Hit3k> s/Pengo/Hit3k
<Hit3k> :)
<Hit3k> !win32codecs
<ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
<Tatey> try apt-caches earch codecs
<Tatey> :)
<adhoc> apt-cache search codecs
<romana> that too
<Tatey> klenub
<Phlosten> hmm, i need something to keep track of all my cd dvd backups
<bimberi> !w32codesc
<ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
<bimberi> !w32codecs
<ubotwo> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
<bimberi> \o/
<Phlosten> \o\
<elkbuntu> /o/
<Hit3k> \o\
<pschulz01_> \o/
<elkbuntu> /o/
<Hit3k> mexican wave
<Hit3k> actually.. we better be careful the cops will get us
<Changlinn> got a quick question, anyone seen this. Got a pc on a network that sends emails...
<Hit3k> yeah.. my pc does that....
<Hit3k> only when i tell it to though
<Phlosten> ema..what?
<Changlinn> the pc's server got blacklisted, so I changed the host record to point to an external mail server (isp) via cname, all worked, till the isp's mail/hour limit kicked in
<Changlinn> removed the cname, and this computer still when telneting to original-mail-server goes to isp-mail server
<Changlinn> but ping and dig still show the a record for the original...
<Phlosten> O_o
<Changlinn> restarted networking, rebooted... nothing
<Changlinn> I know very odd
<Phlosten> you have a box of mystery
<Changlinn> I do...
<Changlinn> any ideas?
<Phlosten> you only changed the cname?
<Changlinn> I believe so... I can't remember...
<Changlinn> there is a /etc/hosts but it ain't in there, anywhere else?
<Phlosten> so it's only mail that is still going to ISP?
<Changlinn> tried port 110 and it goes to the isp as well
<Changlinn> pretty impressoive
<Changlinn> oh Phlosten did I tell you, the North Rocks computer market had a meeting about giving Ubuntu-au some space to have a stand :)
<Phlosten> Changlinn: neato!
<Changlinn> yeah...
<Changlinn> so back on subject... any ideas...
<Phlosten> mx record? wild stab
<Phlosten> dont really know enough about this stuff
<pschulz01_> Changlinn: Restart your DNS?
<Changlinn> on the client?
<Changlinn> the pc's been rebooted
<pschulz01_> Changlinn: Are you using bind?
<pschulz01_> Changlinn: You removed to CNAME from somewhere?
<Changlinn> on the server, yeah, but all other clients are fine
<Changlinn> digs and telnets from the server work fine
<pschulz01_> Hmmm.
<Changlinn> plot thickens logged on as different user and it is fine...
<merlin-linux> afternoon all
<kgoetz> Changlinn: tried grepping your home for the offending hostname/ip?
<kgoetz> hi merlin-linux
* kgoetz is knackered
<pschulz01_> bfn
<merlin-linux> kgoetz: hi, yeah join the club
<kgoetz> merlin-linux: i'm presedent of it :P
<Phlosten> Knackered Society of Australia
<merlin-linux> hehe
<Phlosten> slogan: Pass Us A Beer
<merlin-linux> i have done to much barcamp wrangling
<Changlinn> kgoetz: no, but weirdly, I logged back on and it worked still...
<Changlinn> well off home bbl
<kgoetz> later mate
<Phlosten> cya Changlinn
<Phlosten> time to make some grub
<Changlinn> kgoetz: grep inside home dir, how? just cd /home/me/ &&grep ispname
<Changlinn> hmm nothing there...
*** Pengo is now known as Hit3_
*** Hit3_ is now known as Hit3k_
<Hit3k_> oobuntooz hates my laptop
<merlin-linux> Changlinn: you could try "find ~/ -name isp"
<Changlinn> later
<kgoetz> oh, he hadnt gone
<kgoetz> i meant `grep -R $string ~/*` and ~/.??*
<purserj> /win/win 19
<kgoetz> ...
<siccness> This is the dumbest assignment I've ever done
<Hit3k_> oh?
<siccness> Yeah, find 4 IT companies and list their service agreements, types of agreements, things covered in each agreement, onsite and remote support offered for the agreement
<Phlosten> 'we agree to screw you over..'
<Hit3k_> microsoft, novell, red hat and cononical
<Hit3k_> canonical*
<romana> pick the odd one out?
<Hit3k_> sure
<siccness> Canonical
<siccness> that's the odd one out
<Hit3k_> oh my god that sounded like thunder!
<romana> that was a bit simple
<Hit3k_> well i would say the odd one is microsoft considering the rest all have something to do with Linux :p
<siccness> Wrong.
<Hit3k_> pfft
<Hit3k_> novell is horrible what do you get when you buy suse
<DarthLappy> You get... SuSE!
<Phlosten> dum dee dum
<pschulz01_> Phlosten: dum diddy dum diddy dum dum dum
<pschulz01_> Phlosten: dum diddy dum diddy dum dum dum
<pschulz01_> Phlosten: dum diddy dum diddy dum dum dum
<DarthLappy> :O
<DarthLappy> Spamz!
<pschulz01_> Phlosten: diddy dum diddy dum dum dum
<Phlosten> bloody spammers
<DarthLappy> Hehe.
* pschulz01_ can't help it it the music repeats itself...
<Phlosten> bbias
<DarthLappy> 1
<siccness> BEER :D
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<Phlosten> and the joy in the confusion he rained down when trying to get others to understand subnets
<siccness> lol
<siccness> did he go into calculating them?
<Phlosten> he has only just started
<siccness> calc.ing them i havent a clue on
<Phlosten> still has to really get into the nitty gritty. but there were only a couple of us that looked like understanding it
<siccness> its some pretty interesting shit
<Phlosten> next week will probably be dedicated to it
<Phlosten> yeah, i love it
<Phlosten> most of it is stuff i already know, but he is certainly filling some gaps
<siccness> This year at TAFE everyone in the class is interested, so it's a good working environment. Everyones enthusiastic, everyone can help eachother (as we all have specific areas we're better in)
<Phlosten> especially the why of how things have come to be
<siccness> Last year was pointless, it was about 3 people who cared, 15 who didnt
<siccness> Phlosten: nothing better than going over stuff
<siccness> kicks it back into your brain :)
<Phlosten> and learning all the 'catch words'
<siccness> such as
<siccness> ?
<Phlosten> well 'man' for one, never heard of it 'metro area network'
<siccness> ah yeah
<siccness> you done the OSI yet?
<Phlosten> yup,
<siccness> 'zzzz' :)
<siccness> I think i just about to died of boredom during that shit
<Phlosten> yeah, its like here is the OSI, and just to end that out, no one uses it
<siccness> LOL
<siccness> That reminds me recently of Classful IP Address
<siccness> Went through a 30min discussion on it
<siccness> then at the end "but we dont care about that, it's about classless now"
<Rothbuntu> noobs!!
<Phlosten> boobs!
<elkbuntu> moobs!
<siccness> damn it, theres nothing left for me to say
<pschulz01_> siccness: Do you cover BGP?
<siccness> Good question, one that I cannot answer.
<Phlosten> that would be f'n right. the bloody cd key they gave me doesn't work
<siccness> win2k3serv?
<siccness> Are you using VMWare?
<Rothbuntu> lol
<Phlosten> yeah got the cd and a key from library today
<siccness> Makes it a hell of a lot easier to do your 'playing' around with.
<Phlosten> no vmware
<Phlosten> i had a spare drive so I thought I would chuck it on there
<siccness> do you have a spare computer for the client?
<Phlosten> yes
<Phlosten> three pc's here
<siccness> ahh that's cool
<siccness> play around with GPOs
<siccness> and effective permissions
<siccness> if you dont already know it
<Rothbuntu> they suck and i never get any of them to work correctly :(
<Phlosten> i will install windows on the two other machines to hack around with
<siccness> lol
<Rothbuntu> or i lock my self out :S
<siccness> Rothbuntu: Microsoft have software that kills a policy
<Phlosten> group policies?
<siccness> so you can fix it up
<siccness> Phlosten: Group Policy Object (GPO)
<Rothbuntu> :D
<Rothbuntu> effective permissions are a pain to do on 2k3 after learning on netware
<Phlosten> microsoft have lots of software that kills other things
<siccness> yeah well NetWare isn't important :P
<Rothbuntu> LOL dont tell tafe that
<siccness> It's funny, no one seems to use NetWare other than educational departments
<Phlosten> we aint doing any netware
<Phlosten> we are doing linux which is cool
<Rothbuntu> tafe sa just put in MORE netware stuff
<siccness> Rothbuntu: lol, why
<pschulz01_> Rothbuntu: Where?
<Phlosten> must have got it cheap on ebay
<siccness> I've only had a chance to play with 5.1
<Rothbuntu> tea tree gully and tafe north
<siccness> not so much 6.5
<Rothbuntu> their course is massive FAIL !
<pschulz01_> Rothbuntu: I was able to catch up with the two people doing the Linux part of the course.. happy to pass on some feedback :-)
<pschulz01_> Rothbuntu: That was at TTP
<Rothbuntu> the linux course with Gerry Munich at TTG is AWSOME
<pschulz01_> Rothbuntu: I burnt him the latest Ubuntu as their network link is terrible.
<Rothbuntu> except they use redhat 9 still but they were going ot switch to suse 10
<Rothbuntu> yeah i worded him up on ubuntu all the time
<pschulz01_> Rothbuntu: Can't download iso's as their gateway times out the session.
<siccness> :|
<Rothbuntu> LOL yes it does they changed that because of us :)
<Rothbuntu> i really should go back and pass linux 2
<siccness> is the linux course there good?
<Rothbuntu> yeah its prety good it might be a bit light for some of you guys though
<Phlosten> whats the diff between enterprise and standard 2k3?
<Rothbuntu> its great for beginners learning how to use command line stuff
<siccness> What kind of stuff do they cover?
<siccness> Phlosten: Probably nothing but a price tag.
<Phlosten> this cd has both options
<Phlosten> i installed standard
<Rothbuntu> linux 1 is basic stuff like make users navigate the file system mount drives
<Phlosten> maybe the key is for enterprise
<Rothbuntu> linux 2 is more server setup kind of stuff like mail, webserver, proxys,
<siccness> Rothbuntu: ahh linux 2 sounds cool then
* elkbuntu waves to DarthLappy
<DarthLappy> 'Lo elkbuntu :)
<Rothbuntu> i think the project is the best thing they have to set up an isp enviroment with all open source software
<siccness> now that's definitely cool
<elkbuntu> DarthLappy, sorry dude. i lose track of where i recognise nicks from :Þ
<Rothbuntu> i think last year they made an open source router
<DarthLappy> Heh :)
<siccness> a linux box as a router?
<Rothbuntu> cus their funding got cut and couldnt buy a proper one
<TheMuso> I love one of Totem's newest features in Feisty.
<Phlosten> hehe
<TheMuso> If you go fullscreen, it will set your resolution to the highest available.
<siccness> There's plenty of documentation on making a linux box as a router.
<siccness> We're doing that next week in fact. Each group at the moment has a different router setup. I just completed CISCO, i think I either get Linux or Windows next.
<siccness> Hopefully Linux
<Rothbuntu> nice
<Rothbuntu> anyone go to the drifts on the weekend ??
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<Phlosten> they need to get rid of some countries, that list picker in windows install is far too sluggish
<siccness> Heh
<Phlosten> feck
<Rothbuntu> mmm
<Phlosten> doesnt work on that version either
<Rothbuntu> hax it
<Rothbuntu> sifnt set up a domain controller with samba
<Phlosten> :)
<Davo_Dinkum> Do VAIOs have dodgy hardware? People tell me they do.
<siccness> its a sony
<siccness> so yes
<Davo_Dinkum> Speaking from experience?
<siccness> from VAIO? No. From sony products, well, yes.
<Fudge> hi guys
<Fudge> anyone used webmin or ispconfig on ubuntu?
<elkbuntu> webmin isnt recommended
<Fudge> oh
<Fudge> whats a good cpanel to use
<elkbuntu> no idea
<elkbuntu> ssh is good :Þ
<Fudge> its for my bro and he isnt used to nix much but likes the cpanels
<Fudge> its only a very small server
<Phlosten> cpanels have increased security risk
<Fudge> this would be accessible only over lan
<Fudge> so would it still have as much security risk?
<Phlosten> as long as that lan isnt protecting corporate secrets worth millions ;)
<Fudge> nah its not :)
<Fudge> so is webin available with the apt-get system?
<Phlosten> i think there is an older one in there
<Fudge> is it apt-cache search webmin to find ?
<Phlosten> hmm maybe not
<Phlosten> looks like it was only in there until breezy
<Fudge> im using badger i think
<Fudge> i found a shitload of modules for it
<Phlosten> there are lots of contributed add on modules, hence the security issues
<purserj> elkbuntu: why isn't webmin recommended?
<purserj> hmm anyone running feisty at the moment?
<adhop> evenen all
<purserj> howdy
<purserj> adhop: you running ubuntu atm?
<adhop> yes
<adhop> on several lappies and desktops
<adhop> +debian+gns+.*bsd
<adhop> why?
<purserj> hmm, I'm hitting a problem with nfs mounting under feisty
<adhop> not running feisty yet
<purserj> right
<adhop> mostly dapper
<adhop> cause i wanted to get the networkmanager thingy running
<adhop> why switch to a development release?
<purserj> low latency kernel for the shows
* purserj sighs, never mind, nfs-common didn't get installed
<Hit3k_> lol
<Hit3k_> put everyone through all that for nothing?
<purserj> yup
<Hit3k_> ah well
<siccness> Can't win 'em all.
<Hit3k_> "monodevelop"
<Hit3k_> sounds like fun
<Hit3k_> oh wait.. its C#
<purserj> and VB.NET
<Hit3k_> ah... i see
<siccness> Why don't teachers like straight-text
* Hit3k_ shrugs
<purserj> what straight text?
<siccness> my homework
<Hit3k_> why dont teachers teach useful things
<Fudge> wat is cfengine
<Fudge> i do
<siccness> too many times have i seen them say "i cant read it, it's not formatted nicely"
<Fudge> like the KISS principals
<Fudge> keep it simple silly
<Fudge> ask them if they passed grade 2 reading
<Fudge> the content is more important than the presentation
<purserj> siccness: think of it as training for the work place, when you will be required to write countless numbers of pointless reports
<adhop> i used to submit all my assignments in .ps from .tex files ;)
<purserj> Fudge: going to have to disagree with you on that one
<Fudge> which part?
<purserj> The content is useless if its unreadable
<adhop> purserj: in my last job i had to write countless meaningless reports
<siccness> purserj: yeah, I now provide them with both straight text and a pdf file
<siccness> which is formatted nicely
<siccness> (through latex/lyx front end)
<purserj> siccness: see you're getting it already
<Fudge> well for someoen who doesnt care for appearance i dont much concern myself with it
<siccness> but it's stupid if it's only a small assignment to make it look nice
<purserj> You tailor your reports to your market
<Fudge> lol i never produce reports pretty
<Fudge> lucky fo rme usually what i say is important so how its layed out they dont care about
<purserj> siccness: if there's marks in making it pretty its always good
<siccness> I always produce my reports now using the logical numbering system of: 1, 1.1, 1.1.1
<adhop> the end gaim is that you give the teacher/lecturer/tutor what they "want"
<siccness> some teachers dont like that
<siccness> but unfortunately, it's the best way to do it
<adhop> if pretty is what the "want" give it to them, you'll pass ;)
<siccness> it makes sense, it shows it in a logical form
<siccness> and it's clean
<Hit3k_> I hate to say it but theres some pretty neat stuff on microsofts coding4fun site
<siccness> (to divide up sections, subsections and subsubsections - obviously)
<adhop> siccness: let TeX do the hard work, thats what its for ;)
<siccness> adhop: of course.
<siccness> I like focussing on the content, if something handles the presentation/formatting then beauty.
<adhop> Hit3k_: when i did all my TeX/LaTeX stuff, i had 4MB of RAM in my peecee
<purserj> you'd be a frontpage man then ;)
<siccness> I hate frontpage
<adhop> you can't run any M$ office in 4MB any more =/
<siccness> vi for all my html mate :)
<siccness> *vim
* adhop has recently discovered ludwig
<Hit3k_> yeah well i use.. cat
<purserj> beethoven?
<adhop> still trying to figure out the commands tho
<siccness> purserj: lol
* Hit3k_ truly is a master
<siccness> dog > cat
* purserj uses echo
<adhop> purserj: prolly, its a locally written editor
<adhop> purserj: from one of the local Unis
<Hit3k_> is there a dog command?
<siccness> Hit3k_: yea
<adhop> Hit3k_: yes
<siccness> mind you it doesnt stand for 'dogenate' :P
<Hit3k_> dog is mans best friend?
<adhop> =D
<siccness> lol
* purserj sighs, according to Downer, the brits aren't withdrawing, they're reducing numbers
<purserj> wtf is the difference!?!
<siccness> well..
<siccness> withdrawing = removing
<siccness> reducing numbers could just mean they're sending less numbers then last time :)
<purserj> nope, they're pulling out at least 2000 troops
<siccness> then Downer's a dickhead
<purserj> yeah, the scary thing comes if the US calls on others to make up the numbers
<siccness> I think that'd just about kill Bush
<purserj> meh, he isn't up for re-election
<siccness> wheres my damn pringles
<siccness> a man needs his pringles
<Phlosten> pop!
<Hit3k_> pop goes the poodle
<siccness> none left, looks like toasted ham/cheese sangas
<Phlosten> all the basic food groups covered
<siccness> heheh
<Hit3k_> lol
<siccness> almost, isnt their a food group that covers alcohol?
<Davo_Dinkum> dont think so
<siccness> there should be.
<elkbuntu> um, the foodgroup known as 'alcoholic beverages'?
<Hit3k_> what food group does yeast go under
<siccness> "Brew"
<Phlosten> vegetables
<adhop> siccness: you up for a bit of a mental work out?
<Phlosten> vodka is made from potatoes isnt it?
<siccness> depends mate :)
<adhop> check out this; http://studioincite.com/makingwifi/?p=73
<adhop> a friend, kat, made it
<elkbuntu> Phlosten, traditionally, yes
<siccness> vodka is made from dead russian politics
<siccness> that's why it tastes to bad
<elkbuntu> and furthermore, potato skins
<adhop> vodka is made from anything at hand ...
<adhop> trees, grass, cabbage, grains, potatoes ...
<siccness> adhop: lol
<elkbuntu> ooh, cabbage vodka sounds nice
<adhop> elkbuntu: how be you this fine evenen
<siccness> what the hell is that
<adhop> siccness: the bike?
<siccness> yea
<elkbuntu> adhop, good, yourself?
<siccness> surely the rubber on the tyres would tear apart
<Phlosten> lordy
<adhop> its great isnt it =)
<siccness> shit yeah
<siccness> i wanna build one
<adhop> elkbuntu: better this evenene =)
<siccness> see if i can get some wheel spin happenin :)
<Phlosten> thats a disaster waiting to happen
<adhop> Phlosten: has happened
<adhop> Phlosten: kat came off and caught a pedal in the posterior
<siccness> ?the Burner?. So named because I set fire to my trousers and hair in the process of welding the beast.
<siccness> LOL
<adhop> Phlosten: she also came off when she caught her jeans in the chain
<Davo_Dinkum> How do you get on it? Jump?
<lucychili> climb
* Davo_Dinkum looks for the ladder
<lucychili> while its moving
<adhop> Davo_Dinkum: read it, bins, light poles, pedestrians
<lucychili> and the pedals spin
<lucychili> because its fix wheel
<lucychili> and the pedals go backwards
<siccness> thats mad
<lucychili> it is truly evil
<lucychili> yes!!
<siccness> i want one
<lucychili> they build bikes and challenge each other riding them
<adhop> evene the overlord was 'scared' riding it =)
<Davo_Dinkum> Oh damn the pedals spin with the wheel?! LOL
<lucychili> yes
<adhop> Davo_Dinkum: its a fixed gear
<lucychili> no free wheel
<lucychili> so leaping off is an art
<adhop> yeah
<lucychili> stobie poles ar your friend
<siccness> If i can drive a commodore, I can ride that.
<purserj> can anyone get to http://radio.localfoss.org ?
<siccness> apache 2 test page
<Phlosten> purserj: yes
<siccness> powered by CentOS
<adhop> siccness: this was the last ride we did; http://lalenguadelfuego.blogspot.com/2007/01/skeletors-seaside-antics.html
<purserj> crap $%#$%#$%#$^#^#$^#$&%^#%
<adhop> siccness: there is another ride coming up soon
<lucychili> apache test page
<purserj> (for family friendliness)
<adhop> Apache 2 Test Page
<adhop> powered by CentOS
<siccness> Hahaha, those blokes look crazy
<adhop> siccness: when you ride bikes like these you *need* to be crazy
<adhop> i couldn't ride most of them, too much knee jam
<siccness> No no, sorry, they're drinking Coopers. Bunch of pansies.
<Phlosten> crazy only just starts to explain that
<lucychili> you know you want one
<adhop> siccness: if you saw the amount of coopers ...
* adhop wants to build something like skylab
<lucychili> evil handcrafted wheels of deth
<Phlosten> where do i order one of those really high ones (see photo middle left)
<siccness> those lowrider ones are great fun
<lucychili> they build them out of old hard rubbish bikes
<siccness> a friend has one of thsoe bad boys
<lucychili> and a welder
<adhop> Phlosten: thats 'skylab'
<siccness> MIG weld!
<Phlosten> caption 'Now I hope I did those welds good, else I am rooted'
<siccness> im the worst welder known to man, the amount of times i've forgotten to put the mask on and tried to sleep with the feeling of sand in my eyes is just rediculous
<lucychili> dare you to make one at barcamp
<lucychili> we have invited them to adelaide barcamp
<adhop> siccness: check out the bikes of the "boneshackers"; http://lalenguadelfuego.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_lalenguadelfuego_archive.html
<siccness> lucychili: bring one down to lca08
<lucychili> kat might be there
<lucychili> im trying to get her to be a speaker
<lucychili> but depends on the speaker choice
<lucychili> ness
<siccness> http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/3597/3154/1600/365742/PC150041.jpg <--that's mad
<lucychili> shes doing a phd on ethnography of wireless community group airstream, study of maker culture
<siccness> adhop: get a boneshaker down for lca08 :D
<siccness> i wanna ride one of them
<adhop> i'll have to make one
<adhop> siccness: you make one too
<siccness> doesn't look easy to make man
<Phlosten> just makes you want to run out and buy a welder
<siccness> we'll thrown on a set of real tyres
<siccness> *throw on
<siccness> have the rears sittin on some crazy profile
<adhop> siccness: these are for you then; http://www.gizmowatch.com/entry/these-awesome-chopper-bikes-would-make-you-shun-your-harley/
<Phlosten> that wooden one is cool
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<siccness> yea the last one
<siccness> the blue one
<siccness> is what im talkin about
<siccness> just makes you wanna throw an engine on her
<siccness> :)
<Phlosten> very top notch
<adhop> hold onto you hats; http://www.atomiczombie.com/
<adhop> check out; overkill cycle
<Phlosten> http://mywilson.homestead.com/gallery69.html - even though it's pink it does hold 12 cans of beer!
<purserj> if anyones in a testing mood and has java installed could they pop along to http://radio.localfoss.org:8000/test.html and see if the applet loads properly?
<Phlosten> hehe, 99% is one wheel
<siccness> Hahahaha, overkill cycle chopper
<Phlosten> purserj: buffering now
<siccness> that's f-ing pimp
<purserj> Phlosten: ta
<siccness> imagine the leg power you'd need to get her moving
<Phlosten> purserj: streaming fine
<purserj> sweet
<purserj> This is what I'm going to be offering for people who can't listen to ogg natively
<Fudge> ty guys
<siccness> you guys might know this, what's better heat or cold for a buggered shoulder?
<MotherLUG> siccness, tell mum what you did and when?
<siccness> She's not here
<siccness> I think I pulled a muscle or something when bowling
<adhop> siccness: heat after the injury
<MotherLUG> today
<adhop> siccness: cold at the time of the injury
<siccness> yesterday
<adhop> siccness: check out the 'scooter' at the bottom of the page;
<MotherLUG> first 24 hours cold to reduce the swelling and then heat after that
<adhop> http://mywilson.homestead.com/gallery82.html
<siccness> heat it is then
<adhop> siccness: what MotherLUG said
<adhop> eep!
<siccness> I should really get another scan done on my back heh
<Hit3k_> heh
<Hit3k_> i need to go see a chiropractor one day my back is horrible
<Hit3k_> its all this sitting i do
<adhop> siccness: the guy on the last bike has a VB tash
<adhop> Hit3k_: get a laptop and lay in bed and hack
<siccness> LOL
<adhop> Hit3k_: its what i do ;) when i've had enough time in the chair
<Hit3k_> adhop, i do.
<siccness> looks like boony with michael hutschinson style hair
<siccness> Hit3k_: wouldn't waste a cent at the chiros
<adhop> siccness: i knew you'd want one ;)
<siccness> I've spent hundreds of dollars at the chiropractor, all they do is a quick-fix that lasts about 24hrs
<siccness> then you'll be in pain again
<purserj> siccness: then you're going to the wrong chiro
<siccness> been to about 5 of them
<siccness> two naturopaths
<purserj> Well you've either been really unlucky, or you've screwed your back worse than you think
<siccness> well, im going with the latter
<elkbuntu> 5 chiros and only a few hundred $s?
<siccness> elkbuntu: healthcare shit
<purserj> A good chiro will set out a management plan
<siccness> not to mention, mum works at a chemist where there are chiros/natopaths
<Phlosten> we live next door to a chiro
<siccness> purserj: it's got something to do with the discs being out of alignment
<siccness> i dunno much about it, but something like that
<adhop> anyhow
<adhop> i should call it a night as i didn't sleep last night
<adhop> night all =)
<siccness> Heh, fair enough mate. Night champ.
<purserj> night
<purserj> Phlosten: hey your on :)
<elkbuntu> heh. esr is now an ubuntu user
<Kamping_Kaiser> um. tin hat time?
<elkbuntu> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-February/msg01006.html
<Davo_Dinkum> No, gNewSense time :D
<elkbuntu> Davo_Dinkum, you wont get esr into the gns boat anytime soon
<purserj> Davo_Dinkum: esr would be as far from gnewsense as he could get
<Davo_Dinkum> No, I mean it's gNewSense time for me.
<purserj> This is the man who is confused about the ability for linux to communicate with ipods
<Kamping_Kaiser> i notice esrs reasons for leaving fedora include 'its to free' (paraphrased by me)
<Kamping_Kaiser> lol
<Davo_Dinkum> purserj: I know
<Kamping_Kaiser> who knows. perhaps we'll get a new elser now
<purserj> elser?
<Kamping_Kaiser> *elesr (comic)
<Davo_Dinkum> *ELER?
<purserj> ah, shuttleworth has already featured
<purserj> http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/cancomical-lynchpad
<elkbuntu> teh old
<Kamping_Kaiser> oh, i thought you meant the readhat list *heh*
<elkbuntu> same initially
<siccness> bang bang
<mruiz> hi, someone will go to next SLUG meeting?
<purserj> some here are SLUG members
<mruiz> purserj, good!
<yama> mruiz: I'll be there
<mruiz> hi yama
<yama> hi mruiz. Grab me at SLUG if you want and we can have a chat :)
<mruiz> yama, oh great...can we talk about LoCo teams?
<Kamping_Kaiser> awsome asci art: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-February/msg01009.html
<yama> mruiz: sure!
<Davo_Dinkum> Kamping_Kaiser: Nice
<yama> ROTFL! ESR had it coming. God that man is full of himself.
<Kamping_Kaiser> yama, hi mate
<yama> hey Kamping_Kaiser!
<Kamping_Kaiser> its remarkable hes so... disconnected
<yama> have you tried reading his blog? He's such a fruitcake
<Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, for kicks.
<elkbuntu> yes indeed
<elkbuntu> yama, look at the Cc line of the email ;)
<Kamping_Kaiser> havent recently though. perhaps when hes had a chance to rant about ubuntu a bit i'll check it
<Davo_Dinkum> I've tried. It is hard to read such crap though.
<yama> elkbuntu: oh god, he wasn't even discreet about it
<elkbuntu> yama, nope
<elkbuntu> yama, you sound surprised
<yama> elkbuntu: maybe I'm too trusting of people's motives :/
<yama> but seriously, ESR realy cheeses me off
<elkbuntu> esr cheeses alot of people off
<Kamping_Kaiser> we need him though
<MotherLUG> Night All
<elkbuntu> sadly enough. yeah.
<elkbuntu> night mummylug
<Kamping_Kaiser> night MotherLUG
<yama> night MotherLUG
<yama> we do need him. He's like RMS in that way
<elkbuntu> but with less beard consumption
<yama> but I don't think RMS is full of himself
<Kamping_Kaiser> and less brain usage
<Kamping_Kaiser> hes not, hes just a nutter
<yama> elkbuntu: if you're referring to the soup incident, there was no mention of him actually eating from that soup afterwards
<elkbuntu> yama, i know. but ever since reading it, it's the first thing i think of when i think of rms
<yama> he's a strange one. He reckons he might have Aspergers Syndrome. It would make sense.
<Davo_Dinkum> Soup?
<elkbuntu> yeah. alot of good computer people are asperger-ish
<elkbuntu> Davo_Dinkum, read his wikipedia page
<yama> Davo_Dinkum: there's one account that RMS was at a dinner, and was tossing bits of his beard into his soup
<yama> but there was no mention of him eating from the bowl afterwards
<Kamping_Kaiser> all beardy people get beard in soup *looks at adhop *
<cafuego_> soup in beard, very different proposition
<cafuego_> if adhop is putting his beard in his soup, he should try staying awake ;-)
<Davo_Dinkum> yama: Delibertly?
<yama> Davo_Dinkum: yes, but I don't see anything really wrong with it
<siccness> What a freak.
<yama> when you have a long beard, bits of hair are going to fall out. It's natural.
<cafuego_> yama: they tend to get matted, not go everywhere
<yama> better to put it in one place (the bowl) than make a mess
<yama> cafuego_: when you play with it, hair can come out
<Davo_Dinkum> Where is the soup article on wikipedia?
<siccness> Probably all the dancing and yoga he does is the cause of his hair falling out
<yama> Davo_Dinkum: look at the RMS page
<cafuego_> yama: playing with ones beard during dinner is unsanitary ;-)
<yama> true
<elkbuntu> Davo_Dinkum, if it's not on rms' page, it might be in the relevant talk page
<cafuego_> yama: god knows where it's been
<yama> I certainly don't do it
<Davo_Dinkum> Yoga?
<siccness> Indeedly.
<siccness> RMS enjoys dancing, yoga, praying, and all kindsa of things like that
<yama> hippie
<siccness> Although his ability to 'dance' isn't what I'd call dancing.
<siccness> More along the lines of "holding hands and jumping"
<Davo_Dinkum> An aethist who likes praying?
<siccness> Yeah that praying but was a bit of a guess, but the rest is true.
<Davo_Dinkum> Maybe in the church of EMACS or something
<siccness> Hahaha
<siccness> Emacs has it's own Church
<Davo_Dinkum> You do realise it's a joke, right?
<siccness> -sigh-
<Davo_Dinkum> Like flying spaggetti monster
<siccness> *woosh* straight over your head mate.
<elkbuntu> Davo_Dinkum, and i would put money on it being on quite a number of census forms ;)
<Kamping_Kaiser> mmm. along with 'jedi'...
<elkbuntu> or football
<siccness> Hey Kampaz
<yama> he is Saint IGNUcius of the Church of EMACS
<elkbuntu> although, iirc jedi is the only one of those to successfully hit critical mass and be declared a recognised religion... i think in the UK
<Kamping_Kaiser> hey siccness
<Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, correct
* purserj sighs, with a decent tv setup and a working remote, Myth could be the core of a really cool home entertainment setup
<elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, im not sure if football achieved the same or not
<elkbuntu> ie, soccer
<elkbuntu> heh, the esr thing has not yet hit sounder
<siccness> So much for the thunderstorms Melbourne were supposed to receive
<elkbuntu> siccness, we stole them. sorry.
<elkbuntu> they only gave us 1.8mm
<elkbuntu> :(
<siccness> :|
<elkbuntu> err
<elkbuntu> cm
<siccness> Pretty piss poor
<elkbuntu> 1.8cm is still pretty poor, yeah
<siccness> Better than nothing I guess
<Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, well... you could fix the sounder problem
<siccness> Alright, I need some sleep. Night all
<yama> night mate
<Kamping_Kaiser> later mate
<elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, do i look like an idiot?
<yama> yes
* yama hides
* elkbuntu pouts at yama
<elkbuntu> :(
<elkbuntu> yama make elkbuntu saaaad :(
* Kamping_Kaiser huggles elkbuntu
<Kamping_Kaiser> (hes right though ;))
<Kamping_Kaiser> j/k
* elkbuntu kicks Kamping_Kaiser
* yama gives elkbuntu an elmo doll
* elkbuntu cheers
* Kamping_Kaiser bleats
* elkbuntu checks for test tickles and finds none. phew.
<elkbuntu> if nobody gets that. you've all been living under rocks.
<yama> as in 'tickle me elmo'?
* Kamping_Kaiser likes his rock
<yama> Weird Al had a pet rock
<elkbuntu> yama, as in the blonde joke
<yama> nope, don't know that one
<yama> does that make me blond?
<elkbuntu> yama, i doubt even a whole bottle of bleach could achieve that with you.
<yama> but it's make me like Michael Jackson
<yama> *it'll
<elkbuntu> this is true
<elkbuntu> anyway a blonde starts at the tickle-me-elmo factory. her supervisor gives her the task of giving each doll two test tickles.
<yama> go on
<elkbuntu> the manager returns from a meeting to find the production line is banked up. he looks for the source of the problem and finds the blonde hurridly stitching pices of fabric onto each doll, with 2 beans inside each piece
<purserj> yama: your nose would have to fall off first
<elkbuntu> the manager bursts out laughing and says 'two test tickles, not two testicles'
<yama> elkbuntu: LOL!
* Kamping_Kaiser wondesr if theres a tounge twister in there
<yama> so dumb yet so funny
<elkbuntu> yama, yep :Þ
<yama> purserj: I like my Human Horn where it is
<yama> (Futurama reference, in case nobody got it)
* yama finally reads ESR's rant
<yama> of course he doesn't mention that he's on the Lindows payroll
<purserj> anyway night all
<yama> night purserj
<Davo_Dinkum> yama: Yeah that would help with his decision to use Ubuntu
<Kamping_Kaiser> yama, is he still?
<Kamping_Kaiser> hm
<yama> Davo_Dinkum: Lindows is based on Kubuntu now, and they are going to sell CNR services to Ubuntu users
<yama> Kamping_Kaiser: it was publicly announced not too long ago that he was working with them
<yama> only a few months ago
<yama> late last year
<Kamping_Kaiser> yama, didnt realise that. i thought it was some ancient history thingo
<yama> more as a consultant than as an employee, though
<yama> and he's on some advisory panel for them
<yama> Jono was on the same panel before leaving for Canonical
<Davo_Dinkum> Bye!
<Kamping_Kaiser> gnight all
<yama> night mate
<Kamping_Kaiser> (yay, just unsubbed from sounder)
<elkbuntu> yeah i sort of figured he used linspire or freespire
<elkbuntu> but well, whadda ya know
<yama> not just used, he works with them!
<yama> he's just looking for an excuse to pimp his company
<elkbuntu> yama, i realise this now. i'd never paid enough attention to him to know what he used, but i figured he used it since he's on the payroll
<yama> it's a shame. He's got some good ideas, but he bundles it all up with redneck/gun-totting/racist/money-grubbing/narcissistic crud
<elkbuntu> there's alot of wasted talent in the software world. a fair chunk of MS employees for example
<yama> I don't understand how they can sleep at night
<yama> but that's just me :/
<elkbuntu> 'On a mattress stuffed with $100 bills'
<yama> ROTFL!
<yama> g'night all
<boky> what is your recommendation about wireless router (cca 100 euro)?
<elkbuntu> boky, we dont use euro in australia, and our product range differs, so we cant give you an accurate answer, sorry :(
<boky> yes, I know. i use to live in wollongong 70 km of sydney. ok, what is your recommendation cca 200 australian dollars?
<elkbuntu> i dont even own a router, so i cannot recommend personally
<elkbuntu> s/router/wireless router/
<merlin-linux> boky: the wireless router that i use is a Mitsubishi R100 which is running openwrt, but they only sold in australia, but the R100 is a rebadged asus wl-500g
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* purserj wonders what the Canonical people did to deserve ESR
<cafuego_> maybe they said they don't like guns
<lisapc> cafuego good morn
<cafuego_> ehlo
<lisapc> :)
<lisapc> ehlo back at ya ;)
<lisapc> cafuego im waitng and waiting for my adsl2+
<lisapc> long wait
* lisapc cries
<rob_melb> you workin already this morn cafuego ?
<cafuego_> rob_melb: Just about, have an ubuntu support job at a school this morning actually
<rob_melb> r u going for the angry anderson look ? shorts and school cap
<lisapc> cafuego u teACH ubuntu to kids??
<lisapc> if i install xubuntu, can i easily upgrade that to kbuntu or ubuntu later?
<cafuego_> rob_melb: nah, as OS guru with my osdc t-shirt ;-)

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