| <X3N_> can anyone see why the image on this page isn't working ? | |
| <X3N_> http://www.michaelwood.me.uk/About/LastFM | |
| <tsmithe> which? | |
| <X3N_> there is an image on that page | |
| <tsmithe> yes | |
| <tsmithe> describe the issue | |
| <tsmithe> X3N_, is that you? | |
| <tsmithe> grade 6 piano i see | |
| <X3N_> yeah | |
| <X3N_> hmm seems i've got a cache problem | |
| <tsmithe> there is the last.fm table i can see | |
| <tsmithe> that's an image | |
| <tsmithe> it "works" | |
| <X3N_> hmm | |
| <X3N_> cleared all my cache and it still doesn't load | |
| <tsmithe> weird | |
| * tsmithe → sleep | |
| <tsmithe> night | |
| <X3N_> night | |
| <X3N_> hmm | |
| <Seeker`> hmm? | |
| <blackest> hi anyone awake | |
| <Seeker`> yeah | |
| <X3N_> hmm i think i'm in for a bollocking tomorrow :/ | |
| <X3N_> or later on today even | |
| <blackest> does make config perminately alter the output of make | |
| <blackest> or am i stressing for no good reason | |
| <bugbot> New on planetuk: Caroline Ford: Sunday <http://secretlondon.livejournal.com/128063.html> | |
| <Seeker`> X3N_: Why? | |
| <Seeker`> blackest: Dont know | |
| <MattJ> X3N_: It could be set in your browser not to display images from other sites than the one you are browsin | |
| <MattJ> g | |
| <bugbot> New on planetuk: Caroline Ford: Tony talks tough (yawn) <http://secretlondon.livejournal.com/128426.html> | |
| <popey> morning all | |
| <dotwaffle> mornin'. | |
| <popey> hey dotwaffle | |
| <popey> not long till fosdem :) | |
| <dotwaffle> yup - just looking for one more person to take in the car, then i'm booking the ferry ;) | |
| <popey> who you taking at the moment? | |
| <dotwaffle> Sladen, and random from #debian.uk | |
| <popey> cool | |
| <popey> sladen (and his brompton) ? :) | |
| <dotwaffle> presume so, yeah. | |
| *** GazzaK changes topic to "Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://www.ubuntu-uk.org | Ubuntu FAQ: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Gallery/Members add your picture | Next UKTeam Meeting is in #ubuntu-uk on 21st February at 21:00 | This isn't a support channel, but we won't turn you down if you want support. #ubuntu is the official support channel." | |
| <GazzaK> So good I did it twice! | |
| <GazzaK> popey, you about? | |
| <GazzaK> can we get haskmasks/cloaks done for the folks here? ie *@ubuntu-uk | |
| <popey> I am about yes GazzaK | |
| <popey> thats a freenode thing isnt it? | |
| <GazzaK> it is, but it needs a contact to do the "group contact form" | |
| <GazzaK> http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml | |
| <GazzaK> just really I thought it'd be kinda cool to have a @ubuntu-uk cloak, :-) | |
| <GazzaK> Oh, and hope you had a good weekend :-) | |
| * popey doesnt want/need a cloak :) | |
| <popey> I would recommend that one of the channel ops requests it | |
| <dotwaffle> Good man, popey ;) | |
| <popey> apokryphos for example | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <dotwaffle> popey - I presume it's for the same reason why I haven't applied for Ubuntu Member status... | |
| <popey> you dont use ubuntu? | |
| <dotwaffle> I do... | |
| <GazzaK> dotwaffle, popey is a member, he has a funky cloak already | |
| <dotwaffle> Oh, didn't realise you were a member, popey. | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <GazzaK> oh yes, he is our hero | |
| <popey> haha | |
| <popey> yeah right | |
| <GazzaK> we all have little popey dolls and pray to them each night | |
| <popey> put it away you big gay bear | |
| <GazzaK> (or stick pins in them) | |
| <dotwaffle> hah, burn. | |
| <GazzaK> wow, I have been called many things, but never a "big gay bear" | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> I have :) | |
| <GazzaK> rharrr | |
| <dotwaffle> yeah, i didn't apply because it seems like a bit of a status symbol, I can't see it actually helping me do anything, so might as well do without it and contribute from outside. | |
| <popey> its more recognition | |
| <popey> also gives voting rights on some things | |
| <popey> and a cloack | |
| <GazzaK> dotwaffle, but you have a supporter cloak, which is cool | |
| <popey> er | |
| <popey> cloak | |
| <popey> and @ubuntu.com email addy :) | |
| <popey> none of them super useful of course | |
| <dotwaffle> GazzaK: I only have a supporter cloak because I donated money, I didn't ask for it. I won't refuse it, but I won't apply for it either :S | |
| <popey> I guess a part of it is being recognised as a community member | |
| <popey> recognised for work done | |
| <popey> some people appreciate recognition, others dont care :) | |
| <GazzaK> but that gets you more respect from me than almost anything else, well maybe ubuntu membership is higher, as that does involve at least proving what work you have done | |
| <popey> but does it really? | |
| <GazzaK> I think it does popey | |
| <popey> would you say respect level went up as a result of membership?.. | |
| <popey> or a factor of what I had done to get it? | |
| <dotwaffle> yeah - I work a lot with ubuntu-marketing, but I don't make a big deal about it. Otherwise, it's a status symbol. | |
| <GazzaK> members have to abide by the CoC too, and membership has been taken away | |
| <popey> has it? | |
| <dotwaffle> I've signed the CoC. Good idea, for anyone working with Ubuntu principles. | |
| <GazzaK> popey, for those who do not know what you have done, the membership show that you must have done something... | |
| <popey> true | |
| <popey> its very variable though | |
| <popey> and somewhat arbitrary | |
| <GazzaK> and yes, people have lost membership by saying the wrong things etc | |
| <popey> didn't know that | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, it is variable | |
| <popey> I thought we were one big happy family (steady!).. | |
| <GazzaK> I've also signed the CoC, as I feel that it is a good thing | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, daddy | |
| * popey notes pepsiman is accelerating away from me in the launchpad stats | |
| <popey> he is doing shitloads of translation work | |
| <dotwaffle> In fact, now that I think about it, the only thing I _am_ a member of... Is the British Interplanetary Society ;) | |
| <GazzaK> I'm a member of english heritage | |
| <GazzaK> oh, and the MX5 Owners Club | |
| <GazzaK> oh, and a shooting club | |
| <dotwaffle> Tut tut, shooting club :( Waffle is very very anti-gun | |
| <GazzaK> thats pretty much my interests there, computers, buildings, cars and guns | |
| <GazzaK> dotwaffle, target shooting only, I used to be in the shooting team at my old boarding school | |
| <dotwaffle> GazzaK: Ah, I'm one of those eejits that used to ignore staff members at my school if I thought they glorified weaponry. Was fun in Chemistry ;) | |
| <dotwaffle> Chem teacher was head of the armoury at our school. | |
| <GazzaK> my school was a military school, my dad is ex army, I grew up surrounded by guns tanks and army men (ummmm) so it is no suprise really that I like guns tanks and army men | |
| <dotwaffle> We only had CCF. | |
| <GazzaK> we had that too, but we also used to do school wide parades each sunday, 1500 kids - was impressive, as we could march as good as the army | |
| <dotwaffle> Ok, I really, really don't want to buy an iPod, but iTunes does podcasts and audiobooks so very very well - can anyone think of any alternatives as good as i* | |
| <GazzaK> we had the largest military band outside of the one which does the thingy in london | |
| <dotwaffle> GazzaK: Which is that? | |
| <GazzaK> Duke of Yorks Royal Military School - Dover | |
| <dotwaffle> Ah right. I was Nottingham High School.. | |
| <popey> you can use an iPod quite well these days if you are on Linux | |
| <popey> I used rhythmbox to put music onto wifeys ipod - and that does podcasts too | |
| <GazzaK> I <3 my iPod mini 4GB | |
| <dotwaffle> does it delete them after you've listened to them (ie/ can it manage them for me) | |
| <popey> no | |
| <GazzaK> it's a lot better being connected to the mac mini, than it was connected to a pc | |
| <popey> dotwaffle: I use rsync to do that and find | |
| <popey> rsync to copy files over, find to delete anything older than a certain datee | |
| <dotwaffle> That's what I'm looking for - essentially something that loads my player up when I plug it in with podcasts, then deletes any I've listened to all the way through, keeping those that I've not listened to. | |
| <dotwaffle> popey: An interesting solution, I presume using mtimes or something? | |
| <popey> yes | |
| <popey> well, file date because its fat32 | |
| <dotwaffle> I'll have to have a play - maybe even see if I can write a script to run on something like a libretto - looking to get a mini-laptop, with long battery life, and that would suit it. | |
| <dotwaffle> MacBook Pro too big for day to day - although its kitted out nicely with Feisty atm | |
| *** _yyoman_ is now known as vyoman | |
| * popey has put the monster FOSDEM ical into his PDA for taking to Belgium | |
| <popey> started tagging the talks i want to go to | |
| <popey> GazzaK: you got a mac handy there? | |
| <dotwaffle> There's a FOSDEM iCAl? | |
| <popey> yus | |
| <popey> http://fosdem.org/2007/schedule | |
| <dotwaffle> found, imported and syncing ;) | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> it isnt pretty | |
| <popey> doesnt have the room data in either - which sucks | |
| <dotwaffle> no, it really isn't is it? :) | |
| <dotwaffle> Does have the room data... | |
| <popey> hmm, not here | |
| <dotwaffle> It's in the location tag, for instance, mine says "H.1308" for Testing the openSUSE deistribution, and Janson for another. | |
| <popey> wonder if they updated it | |
| <popey> my location field is blank on my pda | |
| <popey> dotwaffle: what did you impoirt to? | |
| <popey> i will check evolution when I get home - dont know if it didn't import to evo, or evo didn't map location to the pda | |
| <dotwaffle> http://fosdem.org/2007/schedule/ical | |
| <popey> yeah I have the ical | |
| <popey> I just dont know why the Palm shows location blank | |
| <GazzaK> popey, mac is at home, sorry | |
| <popey> ok, nvm | |
| <GazzaK> I can look at it tonight if you like, what did you want me to do? | |
| <popey> download a dmg, open it and pluck a file out of it | |
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| <popey> yikes | |
| <GazzaK> Phil has been busy | |
| <GazzaK> popey, email it to me? garykearley@gmail.com | |
| <popey> you not online at home? | |
| <GazzaK> I am now :-) | |
| <popey> cool | |
| <popey> http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0025044.asp | |
| <GazzaK> got virgin media at last | |
| <popey> there its that printer driver.. | |
| <popey> \o/ | |
| <dotwaffle> popey: I have a mac, btw ;) I may have mentioned it before... | |
| <popey> hehe | |
| <popey> with you now? | |
| <dotwaffle> yup | |
| <popey> ^ click0r | |
| <popey> pls | |
| <popey> can you open that up and see if there are any/many .ppds in there | |
| <dotwaffle> downloading now ;) | |
| <dotwaffle> you realise you can convert .dmg to .iso and .img in Linux, right? | |
| <popey> i do | |
| <popey> but I am on windows at work :( | |
| <dotwaffle> Not in Linux? | |
| <dotwaffle> Ah, ok ;) | |
| <popey> and recently changed isp so no ssh to home right now | |
| <popey> I *knew* I should have opened that port up | |
| <dotwaffle> ah, there's a .pkg inside... | |
| <popey> gah | |
| <popey> is that easily unpackable? | |
| <dotwaffle> Just done it, extracted FIVE layers of .dmg, .pkg, .gz, .pax AND an insane directory structure - no .ppd | |
| <popey> ! | |
| <popey> what an utter crock of shit | |
| <popey> thank you dotwaffle | |
| <dotwaffle> hey, no worries ;) | |
| <popey> i thought OS X used cups | |
| <apokryphos> Ubuntu-uk is a loco team under the Ubuntu namespace | |
| <apokryphos> GCF will just get rejected | |
| <popey> would have expected there to be a ppd | |
| * popey is surprised | |
| <dotwaffle> If it does, it doesn't use bog standard CUPS by any means... | |
| <popey> unless it makes the ppd programmatically | |
| <popey> no, but I thought ppds where interchangeble | |
| <popey> within reason | |
| <dotwaffle> Bah, if the printer doesn't support .ps, it ain't good enough for waffle. Having said that, I don't have a printer at the moment... | |
| <neuro_> spongmonkeys | |
| <dotwaffle> very good, neuro_ | |
| <daviey> dotwaffle, what about converting a VCD bin/cue to iso? | |
| <GazzaK> apokryphos, ahhh, okay | |
| <dotwaffle> daviey: I believe that's more than possible - in fact, I bet there's something in Ubuntu to do it in apt... | |
| <dotwaffle> and if I had access to an Ubuntu machine atm, I'd tell you what it was ;) | |
| <popey> or packages.ubuntulinux.org | |
| <popey> bin2iso isn't it? | |
| <popey> or something cunningly named like that | |
| <daviey> there is a tool, bchunk - it processed the file (took quite a while) produced a file of the correct size but the file was unreadable | |
| <daviey> I have tried it on two VCD bin/cue's | |
| <daviey> (two different ones, that is) ;) | |
| <dotwaffle> nto my field of expertise unfortunately, I don't normally deal with that kind of thing - usually I just render straight to DVD from .mp4 when I'm doing video work. Don't go through the bin/cue step. | |
| <dotwaffle> Why are you dealing with VCD, btw? Aren't they a bit dated these days? | |
| * daviey goes all shy | |
| <dotwaffle> daviey: Sorry, was just asking - didn't mean to cause offence! | |
| <daviey> oh no, just kidding ;) | |
| <dotwaffle> oh ok ;) | |
| <dotwaffle> I used to have a portable VCD player, back when I started video work - fantastic format, but we have much better systems these days ;) MPEG-2, MPEG-4 Part 3, MPEG-4 Part 10 - scary acronyms, good tech ;) | |
| <dotwaffle> s/Part 3/Part 2/g | |
| <daviey> What do you think of mkv format? | |
| <daviey> or, using as a container? | |
| <dotwaffle> mkv is ok, it does a great job, but completely unsupported. Mostly, I see MPEG-4 Part 14 on the net these days (.mp4) but VLC playeth all ;) | |
| <daviey> ffmpeg & mplayer support matroska now. i 'found' (behind the fridge) a HD-MKV file - and it was worse than non HDTV as mythtv didn't support it using it's internal player. I had to shell out to mplayer to watch it. | |
| <dotwaffle> althogh, having said that, everything inhouse we do is either .wmv (spit, spit) or .mpg these days. Mainly because of historical reasons... | |
| <dotwaffle> Yeah, that's a problem. It'll all get fixed, eventually, but to be honest, the containers are all alike when it comes to media storage - the only thing they differ with is subtitles, menu support and streaming. | |
| <dotwaffle> And Ubuntu will support them all ;) | |
| <daviey> thats a point, WHY are dvb subtitles overlay's rather than plain text?!?!?! | |
| <dotwaffle> So that you can insert custom graphics, i presume. | |
| <jayteeuk> Morning all. | |
| <dotwaffle> daviey: at least the UK are doing the smart thing and using MPEG-4 for HD - crazy Americans using MPEG-2 for HD broadcast... What a waste of specturm. | |
| <daviey> yeah but, am i right in saying that all dvb hardware will be obsolete when HD is mainstream as dvb is mpeg2? | |
| <dotwaffle> Freeview DVB-T is MPEG-2, correct, but HD Freeview is MPEG-4. Sky HD is MPEG-4 too. So, yes, there will be some obsoleteness, but you need a new box to output HD anyway, so no big deal :S | |
| <popey> uhm | |
| <popey> you can use existing DVB-T cards in computers AIUI | |
| <popey> because the MPEG decoding is done on the CPU usually | |
| <dotwaffle> But you'll need new STBs though | |
| <popey> thats what some people in the London area are doing to take part in the HD-over-freeview trial the BBC et al are doing off the Crystal Palace transmitter | |
| <popey> well of course - most STBs dont output HD for a start | |
| <popey> but yes, for the backend also | |
| <dotwaffle> Exactamundo | |
| <popey> daviey: probably USA used MPEG2 for HD because they started HD waaay before we did | |
| <popey> before MPEG-4 became codec du jour | |
| <dotwaffle> popey: Actually, it was to do with cost ;) | |
| <popey> :S | |
| <dotwaffle> HD MPEG-4 decoders require a metric asstonne of power to decode ;) | |
| <daviey> popey, dvb-t has no mpeg decoding - it's transmitted in mpeg, the card just grabs the stream | |
| <popey> indeed | |
| <popey> daviey: isn't that what I just said | |
| <popey> 09:57 < popey> because the MPEG decoding is done on the CPU usually | |
| <popey> where usually means "could be on the CPU - could be the GPU" | |
| <dotwaffle> Basically, it just decodes the multiplex and says "here, have some data" | |
| <daviey> but it aint, is it - it's transmitted in mpeg | |
| <daviey> oh, you mean decoded FROM mpeg? | |
| <popey> that's what I said | |
| <popey> MPEG2 needs decoding before it reaches my eyeballs | |
| <popey> maybe not dotwaffles, but I do | |
| <dotwaffle> popey: The Matrix (doesn't) have you. | |
| <daviey> i see what you mean, sorry | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <Seeker`> lo | |
| <popey> lo | |
| <GazzaK> lo | |
| <Seeker`> lo | |
| <Seeker`> how is everyone? | |
| <GazzaK> okay, tired | |
| <GazzaK> got rid of my telly Seeker` | |
| <GazzaK> gave it away to a friend who loves it, and who cannot afford a decent telly themselves | |
| <GazzaK> kinda like a charity | |
| <GazzaK> oh and I gave him my xbox too | |
| <Seeker`> i want an xbox | |
| <Seeker`> an original one | |
| <GazzaK> he is the happiest I've seen him | |
| <Seeker`> so i can softmod it | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, too late :p | |
| <Seeker`> and do all sorts of cool networky stuff | |
| <Seeker`> my housemate has one, it makes a really good media center | |
| <GazzaK> I'm using a mac mini for that | |
| <GazzaK> it's brill | |
| <txwikinger2> IDENTIFY 20irc06 | |
| <GazzaK> hehe | |
| <GazzaK> better change your password | |
| <txwikinger2> hehe yes | |
| <txwikinger2> ha is wrong anyway :-D | |
| <popey> hahahaha | |
| <txwikinger2> I can't rember my paswords so usually I am always wrong :-D | |
| <popey> top tip - identify in another window | |
| <GazzaK> like the freenode server commands window | |
| <popey> exactly | |
| <txwikinger2> yes .. unfortunately I can irc only from psi here at work | |
| * popey wonders if txwikinger2s password for launchpad is 20launchpad06 | |
| <GazzaK> tis a little safer for fat finger syndrome | |
| <txwikinger2> So it is not the first tab, but a randow window | |
| <txwikinger2> No it is not Alan | |
| <txwikinger2> but nice guess .. try another one ;-) | |
| <txwikinger2> when is it possible to identify with public key anyway | |
| <daviey> txwikinger, which bank to you use? | |
| <txwikinger2> that information is classified | |
| <daviey> 20hsbc06 or 20natwest06 | |
| <GazzaK> hehe | |
| <txwikinger2> Not even my wife knows my bank | |
| <GazzaK> you folks are cruel | |
| <GazzaK> txwikinger, very safe, otherwise she'd buy loads of shoes | |
| <txwikinger2> exactly :) | |
| <txwikinger2> And the IR would want sup'm all the time too ;-) | |
| <daviey> Did you hear about that guy that had a rebate of >£20,000 and they paid the wrong person. The person spent it all and the IR said "Your problem, not ours" | |
| <daviey> rebate of VAT that is | |
| <txwikinger2> yep.. and it is his problem | |
| <daviey> how? | |
| <cryedwolf> hey umm im thinking of installing beryl and i need a little help | |
| <txwikinger2> By law you have to pay back money you have received in error to anybody | |
| <txwikinger2> Not only the IR | |
| <txwikinger2> SO if your bank would make such an error it is the same | |
| <daviey> noooo, you miss understand me. The money was paid to the wrong person. The person it belongs to diddn't get a penny. The IR told him to get stuffed | |
| <txwikinger2> on the good side, if you make an error and overpay somebody, they are required to pay you back too | |
| <txwikinger2> Oh.. the person who was suppsoed to get the money? | |
| <daviey> yes | |
| <txwikinger2> He can sue thei pants off :-D | |
| <daviey> didn't work, he tried | |
| <txwikinger2> why.. was there a reason? | |
| <daviey> it was a bit more complicated than i have made out. | |
| <daviey> He closed his bank account, notified the IR and at the same time the money was paid out. The bank re-used his bank account number and sort code! | |
| <daviey> to another customer, so really i blame the bank | |
| <txwikinger2> did he inform the IR about the different account? | |
| <daviey> yes, but it was at the same time of payout IIRC | |
| <daviey> but the bank really shouldn't reuse the numbers | |
| <daviey> the 'theif' did go to prison though | |
| * daviey wishes he could spell thief | |
| <Seeker`> sort code can be resued, as that is branch specific | |
| <daviey> yeah, but the account number!??! | |
| <Seeker`> ah, i didn't mention that :P | |
| <txwikinger2> how do you change your password on irc anyway ? | |
| <popey> /msg nickserv help | |
| <txwikinger2> did that.. didn't see it | |
| <GazzaK> just type it here again, and we will change it for you | |
| <txwikinger2> hey... I am not so stupid | |
| <GazzaK> really... | |
| <GazzaK> :p | |
| <txwikinger2> ah found it :-D | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: Still liking the new house? | |
| <txwikinger2> which new house? | |
| * txwikinger2 thinks Gazzak was the person with the new account and the old account number | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, it's fab, 5 mins from work \o/ | |
| <tsmithe> GazzaK, someone searching for your name got a hit on my blog | |
| <GazzaK> really | |
| <GazzaK> eek | |
| <jayteeuk> Can Wireshark edit the packet captures? | |
| <popey> o_O | |
| * popey wonders what jayteeuk wants to achieve | |
| <jayteeuk> I have a cpature file from tcpdump. | |
| <jayteeuk> I've loaded it into Wireshark. | |
| <jayteeuk> It's not quite decoding the packet correctly. | |
| <jayteeuk> I need to edit the capture file to replace a couple of bytes, then re-load into Wireshark to ensure it works as expected. | |
| <jayteeuk> I can't use vi, because some of the characters I need to insert are special characters, e.g. 0x03 | |
| <txwikinger2> hexedit ? | |
| <txwikinger2> hexeditor actually | |
| <txwikinger2> but you need to use the -b option if you need to insert something ;-) | |
| <jayteeuk> Any idea what package it's in? I only seem to have hexdump. | |
| <popey> jayteeuk: hexedit :) | |
| <popey> (but that is on debian) | |
| <jayteeuk> Ah, that would be why aptitude show hexeditor returned no results then. :) | |
| <jayteeuk> From the description, that looks like exactly what I need, thanks. :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Yep, that's perfect. I can't remember the last time I had to hack around in a binary file like this. | |
| <popey> me neither | |
| <txwikinger2> Is there any good irc client that works through proxy ? | |
| <popey> txwikinger2: what kind of proxy/ | |
| <popey> ? | |
| <txwikinger2> webproxy | |
| <txwikinger2> Here at work I am behind a firewall that I have no access to | |
| <popey> there are no irc clients that go through web proxies :) | |
| <popey> there are other ways to do it though | |
| <txwikinger2> how? | |
| <popey> run an ssh server on the outside of your school on port 443 for example | |
| <popey> then ssh through the proxy and tunnel your irc traffic over that | |
| <popey> or run irssi at the other end of the tunnel | |
| <txwikinger2> I already run my webserver on that | |
| <txwikinger2> And I have only one IP | |
| <popey> do they allow ssh out? | |
| <popey> (your school firewall admins) | |
| <txwikinger2> I don't think so | |
| <txwikinger2> that is one of my problems | |
| <popey> have you tried cgiirc? | |
| <txwikinger2> ah.. that is an idea :-D | |
| <txwikinger2> but I guess using jabber transport is still more convenient than that | |
| <popey> its not great but its better than nothing | |
| <txwikinger2> currently I just go through jabber | |
| <popey> well, there are other ways :) | |
| <popey> but most are sub-optimal | |
| <txwikinger2> :-) | |
| <mattl> lo | |
| <popey> hey mattl | |
| <popey> was thinking about you last night before I went to sleep | |
| <popey> o_O | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <mattl> how sweet :) | |
| <Norf-ubu> G'day | |
| <gord> screencasting + blender = far too much fun -_- | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <gord> http://uploader.polorix.net//files/153/output.avi snazzy -_- | |
| <daviey> gord, that crashes my firefox | |
| <gord> yeah, video playing in browsers is still pretty dodgy, download it with wget and open in your favorite video player. its only 4 seconds or so long ;) | |
| <bugbot> New on planetuk: Steve Garton (sheepeatingtaz): Note To Self <http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk/blog/2007/02/19/note-to-self/> | |
| <GazzaK> sheepeatingtaz, love wifey's comment on "this makes me happy" | |
| <popey> er | |
| <GazzaK> Mrs Sheepeatingtaz Says: February 19th, 2007 at 7:36 am - Good Lord, this marriage lark is going to be a breeze if you’re THIS easily pleased. | |
| <GazzaK> arghhh I hate salad | |
| * GazzaK wants a McDonalds | |
| * jayteeuk tucks into a banana. | |
| * popey comments on sheepeatingtazs blog | |
| <GazzaK> what comment popey | |
| <popey> awaiting moderation | |
| <GazzaK> and... what did you say :-) | |
| <popey> http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/screenshots/blankonblack | |
| <popey> note you cant see the labels for the fields | |
| <GazzaK> what a donut | |
| <DaveMorri1> ok, there is a bug for feisty thats ment to be fixed, and it is for some archs, but me and someone else has confirmed it doesn't work with Via C& cpu's, but what should the status be changed to? ( bug is here https://launchpad.net/malone/+bug/79109 ) | |
| <bugbot> Malone bug 79109 in base-installer "feisty-alternate-i386 for herd-2 cannot install kernel from CDROM" [High,Fix released] | |
| <GazzaK> that will teach him for stealing others themes | |
| <popey> DaveMorri1: what makes you think the status needs changing? | |
| <DaveMorri1> well the status says fixed and released, but tis only a partial fix, not for all archs affected | |
| <popey> do you get the same message? | |
| <popey> is it in fact the same issue? | |
| <DaveMorri1> yeah, no installable kernel found | |
| <popey> comment on it and say so? | |
| <popey> likely to be a different bug though IMO | |
| <DaveMorri1> yeah we have, wasn't sure if you needed to change the status as well | |
| <popey> related, i.e. as a result of the switch from -386 to -generic kernel | |
| <popey> no, have you linked this bug to yours? | |
| <DaveMorri1> no I posted on this bug, should I have created another bug report for the same symptoons but on a different arch | |
| <gord> how is feisty coming along anyway? by now I usually have development versions going on a spare drive but havn't had the time this time around, anything interesting happening? | |
| <popey> raise another bug and link to that one | |
| <popey> the via doesnt have multiple cores does it? | |
| <DaveMorri1> yeah I betting it because of the switch, as the net cd for feisty installed a 386 kernel | |
| <DaveMorri1> nope | |
| <popey> so it is likely related but not that bug | |
| <constrictor> X3N_: how did that fiesty install go | |
| <jayteeuk> Thanks for that pointer to hexedit folks, that's really helped out. | |
| <X3N_> pretty well constrictor | |
| <X3N_> i've not had any problems | |
| <constrictor> cool | |
| <constrictor> i'll test it on the paq when i get home. Thanks X3N_ | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> popey: I'll read it now. Work's proxy connection blew up* | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> (*not the official technical terminology used by the IS department) | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> GazzaK: where is black text on black background? | |
| * sheepeatingtaz reads popey's comment | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> found it! | |
| <GazzaK> hehe | |
| <GazzaK> d'oh | |
| <Seeker`> X3N_: Why did you think you would be in trouble last night? | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> GazzaK: Fixed, I think :S | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, fixed | |
| <bugbot> New on planetuk: Andrew Williams (Nik_Doof/AndrewWilliams): QEMU, Emulation and Computer Archeology <http://nikdoof.net/journal/qemu-emulation-and-computer-archeology> | |
| <constrictor> what is this planetuk thing | |
| <constrictor> ? | |
| <Seeker`> constrictor: A blog aggregator | |
| <constrictor> oh right | |
| <constrictor> url? | |
| <Seeker`> http://ubuntu-uk.org/planet/ | |
| * jayteeuk gets annoyed with people who offer "industry standard" connections into their services, then don't adhere to the standards. | |
| <X3N_> Seeker`: because we played a huge prank on one of my flat mates | |
| <X3N_> we distracted him and changed the barrel of the lock on his room with the one from our kitchen (which everyone has the key to) and then we swapped his keys arround on his keyring so he thought he was opening his door with his key and not the kitchen key | |
| <X3N_> then when he went home on friday night we spent most of saturday stripping his room clean of things | |
| <DaveMorri1> nicely done | |
| <X3N_> we've hidden EVERYTHING | |
| <X3N_> curtains, cupboards, shelves, books, boxes, tv... the only thing in his room now is the sink | |
| <DaveMorri1> you should put a sheep or something in there | |
| <X3N_> we put a box of cornflakes | |
| <X3N_> we also had a party in there | |
| <DaveMorri1> his going to kill you :P | |
| <X3N_> the reason I thought were going to get a bollocking was because the cleaners came this morning | |
| <DaveMorri1> his prob gonna get the blocking | |
| <X3N_> and of course every spare space, bathroom, pantry all of our rooms are full of his funiture and stuff | |
| <mattl> ah, students | |
| <X3N_> luckily we pretended someone was in the bathroom and just told them the truth about some of the other stuff | |
| <X3N_> the majority of the stuff is in the bathroom so they don't know the extent of it | |
| <X3N_> I'll have pictures soon, but i'm not releasing any until the whole saga is over ;) | |
| <Bagnaj97> X3N_, what've you been busted for? :-p | |
| <X3N_> not been busted yet | |
| * mattl busts X3N_ | |
| <X3N_> where is the bot where you need it | |
| <DaveMorri1> *is on the phone to Manchester uni | |
| <mattl> DaveMorri1: ooh, what you doing with them? | |
| <DaveMorri1> I'm sure X3n is there | |
| <DaveMorri1> or it a London based uni X3N_? | |
| <Bagnaj97> York uni I think :-) | |
| <X3N_> I'm at Brunel | |
| <X3N_> (west london) | |
| <Bagnaj97> Bah wrong again >_< | |
| <DaveMorri1> I'm sure someone in this channel is at Manchester | |
| <Bagnaj97> Seeker`, is from Bath and I'm from Kent uni, not sure about Manchester though. We do however seem to have good student coverage :-) | |
| <DaveMorri1> I was a student last year :) | |
| <mattl> I'm going to work at Manchester. | |
| <X3N_> Bagnaj97: read from 17:25:07 http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2007/02/19/%23ubuntu-uk.log | |
| <Bagnaj97> Ah, now why didn't I think of that. Mwahaha... | |
| <X3N_> the annoying thing is, he hasn't come back yet | |
| <DaveMorri1> what timezone are the logs on? BST? | |
| <X3N_> GMT+1 officially i think | |
| <X3N_> european time | |
| <DaveMorri1> Aren't Poland and Eastern Europe 2hrs ahead of us or so? | |
| <daviey> "Poland — Current local time: 5:46 PM on Monday, February 19" courtesy of google | |
| <blackest> poland 1 hour | |
| <blackest> bo wiem ;) | |
| <DaveMorri1> yeah, where is the next time change? After Europe? If so why the hell aren't we are European time, | |
| <blackest> geography | |
| <blackest> least we aint american | |
| <cryedwolf> hey | |
| <DaveMorri1> personally we should be on it anyway, to reduce power consumption, make traffic accidents less likely to occur, so I can sit in the garden and enjoy the sun more in the summer evenings | |
| <blackest> i think theres 5 - 8 hour time difference to here depending on where exactly you are | |
| <jayteeuk> Excellent first post tsmithe. :) | |
| <tsmithe> danke :) | |
| <jayteeuk> I couldn't have put it better myself. Are you running for PM by any chance? | |
| <tsmithe> no ... | |
| <tsmithe> :P | |
| <GazzaK> what first post? | |
| <Seeker`> X3N_: Good luck :D | |
| <tsmithe> GazzaK, to planet.ubuntu.com | |
| <DaveMorri1> which post is tsmithe? | |
| <DaveMorri1> Toby Smith? | |
| <tsmithe> Toby Smithe | |
| <GazzaK> good one tsmithe | |
| <tsmithe> :D | |
| <X3N_> who is our team contact ? | |
| <X3N_> is it popey | |
| <popey> Nik | |
| <Seeker`> Haven't seen Nik around much | |
| <jayteeuk> I think he's pretty busy lately. | |
| <Seeker`> yeah | |
| <popey> !seen LoudMouthMan | |
| <Seeker`> he said that these months are the busiest | |
| <Seeker`> companies spending their budget before april or something | |
| <jayteeuk> He tends to get the runaround at this time of year, apparently. | |
| <jayteeuk> Seeker`++ | |
| <tsmithe> popey, it's dead | |
| <tsmithe> /ns info is best i find | |
| <Seeker`> Last Seen: 2 days (20h 27m 18s) ago | |
| <Seeker`> Last Seen: 2 days (20h 27m 18s) ago | |
| * tsmithe doesn't understand the point in SeenSer | |
| <tsmithe> *SeenServ | |
| <popey> so thats friday evening | |
| <popey> thats not that long ago | |
| <DaveMorri1> he said to drop him, a mail if you need to chat to him | |
| <GazzaK> if he needs any help, i'd freelance | |
| <DaveMorri1> I'm sure he'll be here tomorrow evening | |
| <DaveMorri1> s/tomorrow/Weds | |
| <popey> why weds? | |
| <Seeker`> isnt it the next team meeting soon? | |
| <DaveMorri1> weds is the team meeting | |
| <popey> oh of course ;) | |
| <jayteeuk> I think it was decided not to have it last Wednesday for some bizarre reason. ;) | |
| <Seeker`> jayteeuk: I think we are just doing it at 3 week intervals | |
| <Seeker`> Thats what its been since the first meeting I attended anyway | |
| <GazzaK> eeek, wednesday I am out shooting bits of paper | |
| <jayteeuk> I thought this week was four weeks, probably wrong though. | |
| <Seeker`> Last one was 31st Jan | |
| <jayteeuk> So it was... seems longer than that. | |
| <bugbot> New on planetuk: Caroline Ford: Monday <http://secretlondon.livejournal.com/128636.html> | |
| <jayteeuk> It's because the Ubuntu UK meetings have fallen out of sync with my work meetings. | |
| <X3N_> ^^ she blogs way too much | |
| <jayteeuk> I'm all over the place. | |
| <jayteeuk> Hmmm... MeetingNotes doesn't appear to have a link for Wednesday's meeting. | |
| <Seeker`> i dont think nayone has done an agenda | |
| <Seeker`> there is one | |
| <Seeker`> but it hasn't been linked in | |
| <jayteeuk> It has now. | |
| <jayteeuk> Well... it will have when it's finished saving the page. | |
| <jayteeuk> There you go. | |
| <constrictor> going home guys | |
| <jayteeuk> Not sure if I'll be in attendance or not... kids are ill so I'm not getting much sleep. | |
| <Seeker`> Shame there isn't anaything on the agenda | |
| <Seeker`> jayteeuk: Whats wrong with them? | |
| <jayteeuk> It's difficult to say for sure, they're both too young to express it fully, but it sounds like flu. | |
| <jayteeuk> Youngest (3 months) is very snotty and keeps waking up choking. Eldest (3 years) is just generally out of sorts, has no appetite and says it hurts when we touch him. | |
| <Seeker`> :( | |
| <Seeker`> where do you touch him? | |
| <jayteeuk> We're also keeping an eye out for a rash, meningitis has come to mind as a possibility, but there's no neck pain or aversion to bright lights. | |
| <jayteeuk> Arms, legs, back, belly. He hasn't complained so much on his head actually. | |
| <Seeker`> i dont know the flu would cause pain wehn touched | |
| <Seeker`> but dont trust me, i;m not a doctor | |
| <jayteeuk> When I get flu my skin just feels generally very sensitive. Getting in a hot bath is a no-no cos it hurts like hell. | |
| * Seeker` has never experienced that | |
| <popey> i get achy too | |
| <jayteeuk> Aches in the joints, sore throat, fever, snotty nose, achey muscles. | |
| <jayteeuk> And exhausted. | |
| * Seeker` has had achey joints, but not achey skin | |
| <jayteeuk> I suppose it affects different people in different ways. | |
| <mattl> when i had meningitus, it put me into such a bad way i had real problems walking for a few years after. | |
| <Seeker`> ouch | |
| <Seeker`> my cousin had meningitis when he was 19 or so | |
| <mattl> gave me time to hack when i was a kid instead of playing games. | |
| <Seeker`> he reckons the lumber puncture has screwed with his back | |
| <mattl> Seeker`: yeah, that's what screwed my walking. i find it very hard to sit in a car or stand for very long. | |
| <jayteeuk> One of my wife's client's daughter's boyfriends (phew!) died of meningitis a couple of years ago. | |
| <GazzaK> jayteeuk, thats a complicated path to follow :p | |
| <jayteeuk> I'm sure there's a misplaced apostrophe in there to complicate matters, but I can't quite figure out where. :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Someone we were very briefly acquainted with anyway. | |
| <Seeker`> meningitis can be nasty | |
| <Seeker`> i cant remember wether viral or bacterial is worse | |
| <jayteeuk> Well he went to the park yesterday and although he wasn't his usual "90mph" self, he did still have a run around, so we don't think it's that. | |
| <tsmithe> wooo! "Greg has asked me to thank you for your email of 18th February and to let you know that he will be in touch as soon as possible by post to follow up your concerns." | |
| <tsmithe> oh that's Greg Clark my MP | |
| <Seeker`> tsmithe: Cool | |
| <Seeker`> right, i think its hometime npw | |
| <GazzaK> I got a letter from my MP, vain git has his picture on the letterhead, in colour, posted from the house... | |
| <Seeker`> jayteeuk: Hope your kids get better soon | |
| <GazzaK> hometime for me too | |
| <tsmithe> GazzaK, haha | |
| <GazzaK> and shopping, eek :'( | |
| <jayteeuk> Me too, it's heart-breaking seeing them suffer. :( | |
| <GazzaK> he is a ugly mug too | |
| <DaveMorri1> my Mp is useless, I did get a reply about software patents though | |
| <GazzaK> jayteeuk, kids will be alright, they have the rebound of a rubber ball | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: Would you have complained if he was cute? | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, I'd have written back :p | |
| <jayteeuk> GazzaK: Yep, you're probably right... doesn't stop you worrying about them though. ;) | |
| * Seeker` is a bit of a hypochondriac | |
| <GazzaK> jayteeuk, no, true, thats what your job is as a parent, worry worry worry, lose hair etc | |
| <Seeker`> well, i'm really paranoid about getting ill | |
| <jayteeuk> Oh the hair loss started a long time before I got kids. :-P | |
| <GazzaK> jayteeuk, gone grey yet? | |
| <jayteeuk> Not yet, but the wife is. :D | |
| <jayteeuk> Not that I keep reminding her or anything. :-P | |
| <jayteeuk> My time will come. | |
| <GazzaK> when she says "doe's my bum look big in this" scream and run outside, go to the pub for an hour | |
| <jayteeuk> She doesn't ask that. | |
| <GazzaK> as no matter how you answer, you will lose, and you might as well get a pint in before you are under house arrest | |
| <jayteeuk> She just tells me she's got a fat arse. | |
| <DaveMorri1> my fiancee wants kids :/ | |
| <jayteeuk> GazzaK: Agreed. :) | |
| <DaveMorri1> Don't get me wrong, I want them as well, but she's 22, I'm 24. We can get a house before the kids | |
| <GazzaK> anyways, /me is off to tescos.... /me feels sorry for me..... | |
| <jayteeuk> GazzaK: How come you're such an expert anyway? :-P | |
| <GazzaK> jayteeuk, I talk a lot :p | |
| <jayteeuk> :D | |
| <GazzaK> I might be a battyboy, but all the girls talk to me | |
| <DaveMorri1> GazzaK: you mean you listen alot! | |
| <GazzaK> I get to hear stuff they don't tell you straight boys | |
| <jayteeuk> Go get your shopping done. ;) | |
| <GazzaK> and yes, size does matter, they are just being nice | |
| <DaveMorri1> lol | |
| <mattl> GazzaK: I saw a great bit of graffiti.. it said "I am twelve inches, do you want me?" and underneath someone else had written "That depends on how big your cock is." | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| <jayteeuk> I'm off too.... | |
| <Seeker`> bye! | |
| *** rbs-tito_ is now known as rbs-tito | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Afternoon all. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey Jono . | |
| <jono> hi lo | |
| <jono> hi LoudMouthMan | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so back and away from theanger then ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Dont know about others here but the last few weeks feel like they just flashed past quicker than discovering a syntax error in your xorg.conf file ! | |
| <jono> LoudMouthMan: yep | |
| <jono> heh | |
| <LoudMouthMan> ive not fogotten about the doc btw ive been putting the promised time in and I see theres a loco fairs link which is very much appropo to the conversation so if 1) the power in horsham can stay on and 2) my exim tweaks on a clients site fix their DOS issues I can update and finish off this week ! | |
| <marmer> hy all | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey Marmer | |
| <constrictor> about to upgrade to fiesty | |
| <daviey> geez, your crazy!! | |
| <constrictor> no i'm impatient | |
| <daviey> me to ;) | |
| <constrictor> have you done this too? | |
| <daviey> yes | |
| <constrictor> buggy? | |
| <daviey> no, not really | |
| <daviey> there is the odd quirk, then isn't really a show stopper | |
| * popey has 3 machines on feisty | |
| <popey> \o/ feisty | |
| <constrictor> well i have started already so... | |
| <daviey> mind you, there was a bug for 3 days that if you lock the screen / shut laptop lid then you have to restart X | |
| * constrictor laughs uneasily | |
| * constrictor sips his coke to dry parched throat | |
| <daviey> Only my laptop atm is running feisty | |
| <constrictor> i'll let you know how mine goes | |
| <daviey> constrictor, mind you - hope your not on dialup, expect 20-100mb of updates a day | |
| <constrictor> well if my lappie doesn't explode | |
| <constrictor> nah i have a decent connection | |
| <daviey> good | |
| <daviey> there seems to be a bug at the moment of IDE hd's being recognised as SATA, or something | |
| <daviey> during install | |
| <constrictor> you mean during fresh install? | |
| <constrictor> because i would have thought i would not have to deal with partitioning | |
| <daviey> constrictor, hmm, i tried to install over a dapper system the other day (using herd 3 or 4) and had problems | |
| <constrictor> good to know it was *not* edgy | |
| <daviey> constrictor, if you have ubuntu already on there - why not do an upgrade? | |
| <constrictor> that's what i'm doing | |
| <daviey> ahh, so you won't be using the livecd | |
| <popey> daviey: some people argue it leaves a messy system | |
| <constrictor> nope | |
| <constrictor> that's why i'm still here while the fetching is going on | |
| <daviey> popey, personally i 'like' a clean install between releases. However, i keep getting told it's identical | |
| * popey doesnt have an opinion either way really | |
| * popey generally does upgrades | |
| <DaveMorri1> also going from dapper to Feisty can be bad | |
| <constrictor> what are MD arrays? | |
| <daviey> The only reason i like clean installs, is my /etc and everything else tends to get tinkered with | |
| <DaveMorri1> I think they are used by the software raid stuff of mdadm | |
| <daviey> and generally broke; so it's nice to start a fresh | |
| <constrictor> right | |
| <DaveMorri1> normally a config file, somehting like /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf which shows what drives mach up each part of the array, and what raid type | |
| <DaveMorri1> s/mach/make | |
| <constrictor> i see | |
| <constrictor> i am thinking about doing a dissertation on opensource in an enterprise environment for my masters | |
| <constrictor> do you know any good academic journals i can look at for stuff like this | |
| <constrictor> ? | |
| <daviey> you'll fine plenty 'for' - but you could use the MS sponsered white paper 'against' | |
| <constrictor> actually it's the 'for' i'm interested in | |
| <constrictor> my hypothesis is that opensource can actually be a replacement for proprietary solutions | |
| <constrictor> from a strategic point of view | |
| <daviey> constrictor, as a GNU/Linux user it's mandatory you have that opinion, i think it's part of GPL ver. 2 or something | |
| <daviey> we all have that opinion, even if it aint true! ;) | |
| <rbs-tito> Whoa, the new Blender is fantastic | |
| <rbs-tito> It really kicks the commercial apps arses. | |
| <constrictor> thanks for that daviey | |
| <bugbot> New on planetuk: Jono Bacon: My god! Its MY OWN bed! <http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=898> | |
| <GazzaK> Arghhh, I think sorting out my local LUG is gonna be hard work... | |
| <DaveMorri1> you haven't got one or its shit? | |
| <GazzaK> DaveMorri1, it's dead, I seem to be almost the only one active on the mailing list, bar a few replys (normally to my posts) | |
| <GazzaK> I got the okay to become the LUGMaster, but so far LUG.org.uk have not changed anything... ( popey ping) | |
| <daviey> GazzaK, what lug is it? | |
| <GazzaK> colchester | |
| <daviey> Anybody recommend a backpack that will fit a 17" laptop? | |
| <daviey> Or a reasonably priced retailer for laptop accessories / rucksacks? | |
| <jamesbrose> does anybody use vmware/vmware server here? | |
| <tsmithe> yes | |
| <GazzaK> daviey, ebags.co.uk | |
| <GazzaK> daviey, http://www.ebags.co.uk/ even | |
| <jamesbrose> tsmithe, do you know how to get the vm (windows) onto the actual network with a network IP.. | |
| <jamesbrose> ? | |
| <tsmithe> works automagically here... | |
| <philwyett> Same here if using bridged networking. | |
| <jamesbrose> I can't get it to work :/ | |
| * jamesbrose puts bridge on, tests Internet, still doesn't work :( | |
| <philwyett> You will most likely need to start the virtual machine with bridged enabled. Note: I now don't install vmware and use virtualbox as it's far less intrusive. :-) | |
| <jamesbrose> I will try restarting it then | |
| <jamesbrose> philwyett, :( didn't work | |
| <philwyett> Hmm... Try the docs, forums or a post to the list. I can't help at the minute as I'm building bug fixed feisty herd packages. Sorry. | |
| <Seeker`> Is it possible to set up folder sharing so that there is a user that can only access shares and do nothing else? | |
| <daviey> thanks GazzaK | |
| <GazzaK> daviey, found one? | |
| <GazzaK> I got a nice little bag from them, very nice it was too, and cheap | |
| <daviey> Seeker`, what about ftp access? | |
| <daviey> GazzaK, just looking now | |
| <Seeker`> Seeker`: Dont want them to be able to do that | |
| <Seeker`> hmm, have just set the guest ok = yes option in smb.conf | |
| <X3N_> well the guy came back | |
| <X3N_> quite a lot of swearing and much laughing at said guy | |
| <Seeker`> hmm, that doesn't seem to work | |
| <GazzaK> X3N_, what guy? | |
| <X3N_> the guy we emptied his room while he was away | |
| <GazzaK> ahhhh, you cheeky monkey | |
| <X3N_> see from 17:25:07 http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2007/02/19/%23ubuntu-uk.log | |
| <GazzaK> pictures???? | |
| <X3N_> will be up once i've collated them | |
| <constrictor> \o/ feisty | |
| <willskills> :O | |
| <willskills> I am thinking about it tbh | |
| <willskills> I still cant get my usb snd card to record in edgy | |
| <daviey> GazzaK, thanks again for the link. Sadly couldn;t find anything to fir a 40.2 x 28.6 x 3.53 cm / 17" laptop. | |
| <daviey> Why the hell did i get such a big lapppie! >:/ | |
| <constrictor> not sure how that works | |
| <rbs-tito> HI | |
| <DaveMorri1> is there a X11 version of screen? which enables you to switch the X11 forwarding from one machine to another? | |
| <DaveMorri1> I don't think I've explailed that well though | |
| <X3N_> you can do all kinds of things with X11 | |
| <constrictor> X3N_: upgrade was good | |
| <DaveMorri1> yeah, I wanna be able to launch a web browser on machine A, then send it to machine B | |
| <X3N_> you can launch a web browser that is running on machine B but you view it as if it were running on A | |
| <DaveMorri1> yeah I know I can do that, but I wanna be able to switch the output from one to the other yet still containing the same data | |
| <X3N_> you could probably do that by sharing the browser profile data and issuing some commands | |
| <X3N_> there might even be an addon to firefox to do that | |
| <DaveMorri1> yeah the web browser was an example, I'd like to be able to move any X11 window around | |
| <X3N_> it wouldn't be impossible, but would be quite complicated and i don't know if it's been done | |
| <X3N_> as it probably isn't something that would be that useful | |
| <DaveMorri1> I'm thinking it would be good as I move around the office, or share info with my colleagues. | |
| <DaveMorri1> ie I'm wanting to move something I'm working with onto the big LCD screen to quickly talk about it with some people, rather than all trying to get around my desk | |
| <X3N_> vnc | |
| <daviey> hey guys; http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Use-LINUX/ | |
| <daviey> deadline today!! | |
| <daviey> Petition public sector to use Linux rather than windows | |
| <mattl> daviey: why would anyone sign that? | |
| <daviey> As a petition for public sector to use linux rather than windows | |
| <mattl> daviey: "LINUX is a completely free operating system and is better than the Microsoft alternatives. So why should the country waste money on an inferior product, when there is a free alternative?" - that's both factually inaccurate and fails to highlight any of the benefits of free software. | |
| <daviey> true, but i still think it's worth signing | |
| <daviey> mattl, it's your choice | |
| <DaveMorri1> I'd rather sign one about the government using ODF and actually owning the data which is generated by us all | |
| <mattl> daviey: think people shouldn't sign it. i think if such a thing were to happen, it would require a lot more information. as someone who's worked in the UK government on Free Software, such petitions don't help :) | |
| <daviey> marmer, can it hurt? | |
| <mattl> DaveMorri1: that would be a good petition. | |
| <mattl> daviey: yes it can hurt. | |
| <mattl> daviey: it makes people signing it seem like uninformed fanboys. | |
| <vyoman> daviey: thanks for the reminder, i signed up just in time | |
| <khronus> lo all | |
| <daviey> mattl, again - you have your opinion | |
| <khronus> , rfeshy linux install, internet not working, whats first troubleshoot ? | |
| <X3N_> see if the network device is configureable | |
| <DaveMorri1> khronus: can it connect to other things on the network? | |
| <khronus> it can connecty to the router | |
| <mattl> daviey: what Microsoft alternatives to 'LINUX' are there? Why are they better? How much does the government spend, per copy on a Windows license? How much would a comparible free software product cost? | |
| <DaveMorri1> khronus: can you ping 216.239.59.104 | |
| <DaveMorri1> besides its GNU/Linux :P | |
| <daviey> mattl, i agree with you, also worth talking about security, easyier roaming profiles, user definitely cannot break the system (ie root access) | |
| <khronus> yea we can ping it | |
| <DaveMorri1> khronus: then your dns isn't working | |
| <daviey> mattl, i suggest you write a better petition and we will all sign it | |
| <mattl> daviey: why can't the user break the system? | |
| <khronus> indeed, how do i remedy this ? | |
| <vyoman> mattl: here is a link to a pdf file http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/documents/oss_policy_version2.pdf | |
| <khronus> my other computers dns are working | |
| <DaveMorri1> look up your nameservers, they are in your routers | |
| <vyoman> mattl: notice the word policy | |
| <mattl> vyoman: thanks for a pdf file. | |
| <DaveMorri1> then under the network settings there is a dns tab, add them using this interface | |
| <vyoman> night all gota go | |
| <DaveMorri1> khronus: are you able to follow my 'bad' instructions | |
| <khronus> sure dave they are good :) | |
| <khronus> ty | |
| <mattl> daviey: i think you'd be surprised how much free software is already in use in the government. | |
| <DaveMorri1> np | |
| <khronus> i have forgotten my router username/pass temporarily | |
| <khronus> doh! | |
| <khronus> so cant find namesservers | |
| <DaveMorri1> whats your isp? | |
| <DaveMorri1> who even | |
| <khronus> not eager to reset router yet as ive saved some configs for it | |
| <khronus> talk talk | |
| <DaveMorri1> my g/f parents are with them, it always seems to be slow and laggy | |
| <daviey> mattl, i think you'd be suprised how man use XP Pro, Windows is one thing, but how many public sector workers require Pro version? | |
| <mattl> daviey: do you really think the cost between XP Pro and XP Home is any different for the public sector? | |
| <DaveMorri1> khronus: I think the talk talk dns are 62.24.128.17 and 62.24.128.18 according to one of there pages | |
| <daviey> mattl, yes | |
| <mattl> daviey: how much? | |
| <khronus> ok dave | |
| <khronus> do i need to restart the conenction somehow now? | |
| <daviey> mattl, not much; but i remember reading an article in "Computing" about organisations having efficient licencing would save an awful lot | |
| <khronus> ive added thosei n | |
| <khronus> ah it works | |
| <khronus> cool | |
| <DaveMorri1> shouldn't need to, try ping www.google.com | |
| <khronus> ty :) | |
| <DaveMorri1> no probs | |
| <khronus> woo good work | |
| <khronus> wonder why it was not detecting it ? | |
| <khronus> i did an ubuntu install 2 days aggo that nbever needed that | |
| <mattl> daviey: so, what do you want to see? | |
| <DaveMorri1> your router normally dishes them out, preahps this machine has a static ip rather than dhcp? | |
| <khronus> hmm not sure, just installed it so i doubt its default settings would be diff to the other fresh install i did 2 days ago form same cd | |
| <daviey> efficient licencing of proprietary software when necessary and FOSS when possible | |
| <khronus> default settings should still apply | |
| <khronus> ah well it owrks | |
| <khronus> tis all that counts | |
| <daviey> is hotmail.com down? | |
| <DaveMorri1> nope | |
| <khronus> no | |
| <daviey> Server Temporarily Unavailable | |
| <daviey> We apologize, but the server that holds your account information is temporarily unavailable. | |
| <DaveMorri1> you must be on a diffrent server to me then | |
| <daviey> ;( | |
| <DaveMorri1> anyway, time to watch some more TV so this is going to be out of view | |
| <khronus> bbed for me | |
| <khronus> nite all |