<johanbr> I think if Apple had opensourced their whole OS a couple of years ago, they could have attracted many of the people who were drawn to linux. It may be too late now, though.
<johanbr> Also, I don't know how Apple's revenue is divided between hardware and software.
<Burgundavia> apple makes most of the their money off hardware
<Burgundavia> their ipods are a cash cow, as are their computers
<Burgundavia> basically, going open source really offers them nothing
<johanbr> A community of hackers working on their os for free?
<Burgundavia> vs. loss of all thei rhardware profit
<Burgundavia> ?
<jamonation> they released the darwin kernel for a while
<jamonation> which fizzled
<jamonation> their market isn't coders and hackers
<johanbr> Burgundavia: Oh, right. I didn't think about that part. :)
<Burgundavia> the darwin communtiy failed because apple doesn't care
<Burgundavia> massive code drops do not a community make
<jamonation> because apple doesn't have to care
<Burgundavia> this is something they learned with webkit
<Madpilot> hi all
<dennister> hey ppls
<Madpilot> evening dennister
<dennister> how's it goin? been kinda off the scene lately, what with my move and tech troubles
<dennister> i take it the improved logo for ubuntutoronto was your work?
<Madpilot> nope, someone in TO must have done it
<dennister> oh, ok...not too different from your good work, anyway :)
<dennister> i actually came into irc to see if lophyte was online, but i guess it's a saturday night and he's with his gf, where all good bf's should be, and to check out my new irc channel sign-in...pretty neat that i get announced by teksavvy, not the real isp :)
<Madpilot> teksavvy is a proxy service?
<Madpilot> It's Monday for me, my working week is Sat-Weds currently...
<dennister> perhaps...not sure...my real isp is a wholesaler for teksavvy, who supplies/provisions the dsl lines for us
<Madpilot> ah, OK. If you want to screen your IP entirely, Freenode can provide "unaffiliated" cloaks to anyone who asks
<dennister> my new email addy is with my real isp...different from teksavvy...ooooooooo, i might want that, seeing as how i'm such a privacy nut and my ip is a static one
<Madpilot> !cloaks
<dennister> i thought i was told that i had to become a Ubuntu member to get a full cloak?
<Madpilot> a Freenode unaff cloak isn't an Ubuntu thing, it's a just a freenode thing
<Madpilot> meh, no bot in this channel
<dennister> k...i'll check it out in another channel...thx
<Madpilot> dennister, for unaff cloaks, and other info: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
<dennister> ty again :)
<Madpilot> to get the full "ubuntu/member/$nick" cloak like I've got, you do need to be an Ubuntu Member. unaffs are available to anyone who asks a staffer.
<dennister> k...i'm not crazy about memberships in general
<dennister> but anyway, i should get going here...want to have tons of website content ready for the freenet's new site by Tues....ttyl
<Madpilot> later, dennister
<Madpilot> mneptok, ever had much to do with the Koumbit people in Montreal?
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<jamonation> hiya lophyte, dimeotane
<lophyte> hey jamonation
<jamonation> how are you finding the server now?
<lophyte> haven't touched it lately
<jamonation> pages are rendering much quicker now
<lophyte> nice
<lophyte> http://daylightfades.com/content/story.shtml?docid=6
<jamonation> or this look promisin as well: http://www.gtcomm.net/en/dedicated-server-web.php
<Solver> "This manpage is useless, as it was thrown together on a train."
<Solver> -- devilspie man page

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