<DaveMorri1> ok, even if something dosen't work in linux, when I do lspci it should at least appear there?
<jayteeuk> It should do, yes.
* jayteeuk has to be up early tomorrow...
<jayteeuk> Night all.
<daviey> night
<DaveMorri1> then this is the 2nd fucking Nova T-500 tuner card I've got that dosen't work
<daviey> DaveMorri1, hmm, sure it aint u?
<daviey> have you tried other cards in that pci slot?
<DaveMorri1> yep
<DaveMorri1> well the 1st one they've 'tested' and said was broke and sent me this one
<DaveMorri1> just found on the mythtv site I need kernel 2.6.19 or higher for the driver built in, but it should still regeister with lspci
<daviey> i dunno, i'm having problems with a onboard bluetooth adapter that isn't showing on lspci or lsusb, but the kernel loads the modules
<daviey> what kernel do you have?
<DaveMorri1> I'll try it in my bros Windows machine
<daviey> DaveMorri1, let us know
<Norf-ubu> Evening
<daviey> Night
<chaddy> evening all
<DaveMorri1> daviey: It works under windows
<daviey> grr
<DaveMorri1> guess I need to open up my feisty box then :)
<daviey> yes
<DaveMorri1> are you able to buy C7 atx boards? Or other very lower wattage atx boards (mini-itx don't have enough pci slots)
<daviey> dunno, is this for a mythbox?
<DaveMorri1> mythserver
<DaveMorri1> need pci slots for the tuner cards
<daviey> DaveMorri1, i suggest #mythtv-users
<DaveMorri1> yeah I was in there the other day, took me a while to find it due to them having it secret
<chaddy> which UK computer retailer was it one could send an SAE to to get "Powered By Ubuntu Linux" stickers from?
<chaddy> with a bit of luck I might be needing quite a few
<popey> daviey: you asked about HantsLUG?
<daviey> popey, yes sir
<popey> you live in Hants?
<daviey> yes
<daviey> Southampton
<popey> been to a meet?
<daviey> no
<popey> ooo handy
<popey> you just missed one last weekened in southampton
<daviey> doh
<daviey> Where are they now? The uni burn't down ;)
<popey> not quite true
<popey> a bit of it did
<popey> the bit next to the building we use
<daviey> i see http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SeminarRoom1
<popey> yup
<popey> thats where we meet
<daviey> yeah, i drove past the uni when the fire was on
<popey> I am in that pic of SR1 :)
<daviey> What a shame i missed it. Aldershot is probably a bit far to go. ;(
<popey> so the next soton one would be April I guess
<popey> are you on the maliing list?
<daviey> i will be ;)
<daviey> gtg, see you soon
<popey> o/
<DaveMorri1> dear lazy web. I've got a desktop installation, how can I stop X been loaded on boot up? I know I need to remove the init scrips, bu whats the proper ubuntu way
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<popey> DaveMorri1: gdm is the thing you want to not start
<DaveMorri1> cheers
<mumperer> Hi - I'm running Dapper Drake on an HP box and on running the knoppix 5.1 cd from Linux Format mag it related during set-up that my system/graphics did not have a RTGLX extension so it could not run the 3D effects. Is that extension a software I can download and use, or some esoteric wotsit I have to buy and plug in? Anybody any idea?
<mumperer> And yes, i googled for it, but found the apparently relevant website less than clear ...
<DaveMorri1> he didn't stay long
* X3N_ wonders about upgrading his laptop to fiesty
<constrictor> !RTGLX
<constrictor> X3N_ think it's a good idea to upgrade because i'm thinking about it now actually
<constrictor> ?
<X3N_> well
<X3N_> I'm just trying it out on my VM first, i'll let you know how that goes
<constrictor> from dapper i always used beta first, and then grew to stable as it was released
<constrictor> but i put fiesty on my PC at home and the results were not very encouraging
<constrictor> it was alright but that was HERD 2
<constrictor> i'll stick around for you review X3N_
<X3N_> the feature freeze is pretty soon for feisty
<X3N_> mmmmm 842 kB/s
* sheepeatingtaz is running feisty on both desktop & laptop now
<X3N_> ooo 1.1 MB/s
* popey is also running feisty on lappy/desktop
<popey> just upgrading wifeys machine to edgy
<popey> 9.5 mins to download all packages for upgrading from dapper to edgy.. nice
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<jamesbrose> Hello everyone :)
<ziadoz> is there a way i can customise ubuntu and make it look more like opensuse (icons/theme)?
<alecjw> ziadoz, opensuse uses KDE. you praobly want to try and coystomise Kubuntu
<ziadoz> im talking about opensuse using gnome
<alecjw> oh....
<ziadoz> its the icons and theme im looking for mainly
<ziadoz> i dont know where to look though
<alecjw> ziadoz, if you need help actualyl applyign the themes and stuff, popey's made a screecast on it: http://doc.ubuntu.com/screencasts/Customising_Ubuntu_Desktop
<ziadoz> ive watched that screencast :)
<alecjw> oh right
<ziadoz> ive seen pictures of feisty with the open suse icons, cant seem to figure out where to get them though
<chaddy> !seen sdousley
<chaddy> meh
<Norf-ubu> Good evening
<popey> hello
* willskills is away: shops, brb
<Seeker`> lo
<chaddy> http://polishlinux.org/linux/the-future-of-packaging-software-in-linux/
<chaddy> ^interesting summary, I thought
<jayteeuk> chaddy: You still after those stickers?
<chaddy> hi jayteeuk
<chaddy> aye
<jayteeuk> Linux Emporium.
<chaddy> thanks very much
<jayteeuk> Bear with me one tick and I'll get you the URL.
<chaddy> ;-)
<jayteeuk> http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/ubuntu_stickers/
<chaddy> supah, looking forward to applying 10s if not hundreds of them
<chaddy> hmm, getting them four at a time might not be much use
<chaddy> it'll do for a start, though
<jayteeuk> Well they actually sent me six. :-P
<jayteeuk> Perhaps you could get a bigger strip if you offered to pay though.
<chaddy> aye, I'd rather pay them for a decent amount rather than waste time and money with lots of SAEs ;-)
<chaddy> heh, just googled ubuntu stickers and your link was top
<chaddy> must have been having brain-fart before
<jayteeuk> Not my link. :) Dunno who I got it from actually.
<jayteeuk> Might have been on Planet.
<jayteeuk> Which I notice is magically working in Thunderbird again.
<jayteeuk> I thought four stickers would be enough, but then I applied two to my laptop (one on the reverse side so people sat opposite me can see it) and one on my wife's machine.
<jayteeuk> Then I remembered I wanted one for the PC I intend to build into the spare case I have sitting here.
<jayteeuk> So I'm actually one short.
<jayteeuk> Anyway... I'm crossing my fingers and hoping my kernel trouble is about to be fixed... I'll be back shortly after a reboot or two.
<jayteeuk> Well, that didn't work. :(

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