| <elkbuntu> nixternal, ping? | |
| <boredandblogging> FunnyLookinHat, are you around? | |
| <nixternal> elkbuntu: pong | |
| <elkbuntu> nixternal, i'll go to pm | |
| <nixternal> roger | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> boredandblogging, dude yea sorry | |
| <boredandblogging> no problem, how's it going? | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> boredandblogging, pretty good. sorry i never responded to your email man | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> it got kind of crazy here yesterday and today | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> in short, I think you've thought of most of what I had thought of as well | |
| <boredandblogging> thats cool | |
| <boredandblogging> ok | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> boredandblogging, I sort of saw the plan as you using me mostly as a question & answer guy... | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> boredandblogging, have you ever created/edited a wiki page before? | |
| <boredandblogging> yeah, I know how edit the wiki | |
| <boredandblogging> ok, so you want me run with it? | |
| <boredandblogging> also, is there a timeframe when it should be done by? | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> boredandblogging, well, to be quite honest this doesn't have to be done and/or finished until the LoCo Docs Day, march 3rd | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> but yea, go ahead and take it away.... I'll check on the wiki page and make any changes I see necessary or add useful links or information that I may find | |
| <boredandblogging> ok, I'm thinking most of the information should be up by next friday at the latest | |
| <boredandblogging> we can change the format or structure of the page later | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> exactly | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> Information first, cleanup second. : ) | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> And I'm sure someone who is extremely good at wiki layout will edit the page on LoCo docs day | |
| <boredandblogging> awesome, sounds like a plan | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> cool dude | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> Sorry I wasn't as much help as you probably had hoped..... | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> So much freaking stuff going on : ) | |
| <boredandblogging> no big deal, its not that hard to search on the wiki | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> true true | |
| <effie_jayx> ok | |
| <effie_jayx> anyone available for mentoring | |
| <effie_jayx> ???? | |
| <effie_jayx> it's the ubuntu-es situation | |
| <effie_jayx> jenda was great help | |
| <effie_jayx> but hte situation is this | |
| <effie_jayx> the ubuntu-es has existed longer than the LoCo project | |
| <effie_jayx> so | |
| <effie_jayx> thereis reciliance to LoCo structure and most of it comes from not knowing what a loCo is | |
| <effie_jayx> :S | |
| <effie_jayx> now there is a scheduled meeting with jono | |
| <effie_jayx> on monday | |
| <effie_jayx> and they are not ready for the debate | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> effie_jayx, I can answer some questions for you probably | |
| <effie_jayx> well | |
| <effie_jayx> they don't seem to have an agenday | |
| <effie_jayx> agenda | |
| <effie_jayx> and that will make the meeting a mess | |
| <effie_jayx> what considerations will there be for that team | |
| <effie_jayx> taking into acount they came on a first come first serve basis | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> What is the meeting about? Turning ubuntu-espana into an official loco team? | |
| <effie_jayx> no | |
| <effie_jayx> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-es-freenode/ | |
| <effie_jayx> this is a team that is only irc based | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> checking... | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> effie_jayx, mi espanol no es muy bueno, necesito un minuto : ) | |
| <effie_jayx> In the beginning of the loco team project this was just about the only spanish source of ubuntu on the IRC | |
| <effie_jayx> FunnyLookinHat, reads pretty goo | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> right right, your channel was more or less a support channel for any spanish speaking user | |
| <effie_jayx> not my channel :D | |
| <effie_jayx> god forbbids | |
| <effie_jayx> :D | |
| <effie_jayx> yes... | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> hah | |
| <effie_jayx> the official ubuntu book describes it as a channel for all spanish speakers and spain users | |
| <effie_jayx> but | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> So they want to turn it into a LoCo team for Espana? or for all Spanish speakers? | |
| <effie_jayx> no | |
| <effie_jayx> there was a complaint | |
| <effie_jayx> from people of the channel about an op | |
| <effie_jayx> and they brought in jono ... to solve the problem | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> oh | |
| <effie_jayx> turns out ... jono proposed that the channel be for the spanish loCo team | |
| <effie_jayx> and all the latin americans are fumming | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> oh I bet. | |
| <effie_jayx> becuase it is their channel too | |
| <effie_jayx> as spanish speakers | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> well, shouldn't the espana team be #ubuntu-espana and the spanish one just be #ubuntu-espanol ?? | |
| <effie_jayx> the #ubuntu-es is not asociated with the loco team in spain... | |
| <effie_jayx> it contributes | |
| <effie_jayx> but not directly linked | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> right. | |
| <effie_jayx> I believe the LoCo IRC policy is to have #ubuntu-cc ... where cc is the country code for the LoCo team | |
| <effie_jayx> so | |
| <effie_jayx> it is rightfully españa's code | |
| <effie_jayx> but it also stands for our language | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> yea, so I think in this case they should extend it | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> to -espana and -espanol | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> and have -es act as a proxy channel, with a topic redirecting users... at least, that seems the only fair way to do it. | |
| <effie_jayx> FunnyLookinHat, if every other country follows the policy | |
| <effie_jayx> why can't they | |
| * effie_jayx effie_jayx plays jono's advocate | |
| <effie_jayx> mmm | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> i agree with you totally | |
| <effie_jayx> the thing is that | |
| <effie_jayx> they don't know the LoCo project | |
| <effie_jayx> they think it is just and IRC channel | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> well, then someone should explain it to them. Is there a spanish translation of the wiki page for LoCo teams? | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> I'm sure that if the spanish users in #ubuntu-es knew about the loco project then they would see why following the standard would make sense | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> at the least, someone could throw it into google translator... I know it's not the best language tool, but it would get the main points across still I think | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> just for this temporary solution | |
| <effie_jayx> they pretty much don't care | |
| <effie_jayx> they just want their channel :S | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> well, then I guess they will have to learn to follow standards the hard way. | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> It's sad that they won't simply just change their channel name and move on. | |
| <effie_jayx> and then there is people like me that want the people to take a more interesting role and activate their country locos a bit more | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> right, and doing this might push them away from that | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> they might go away from the ubuntu community all-together if they are stubborn enough | |
| <effie_jayx> yes | |
| <effie_jayx> you got the point | |
| <FunnyLookinHat> well, I think Jono should basically say "Sorry, but this is the standard we created and it's a great way of promoting ubuntu. I would love to work with all of you to create teams for your own countries as well!" | |
| <boredandblogging> quick question who am I supposed to contact to get our irc channel logged? | |
| <Rinchen> boredandblogging, you have a few options | |
| <Rinchen> smurf has traditionally run a logger | |
| <Rinchen> Seveas also has one | |
| <Rinchen> or you can use your own | |
| <boredandblogging> thats right, I had left smurf a message, but I don't know if it did it or where I could check to see if he did it | |
| <Rinchen> tselliot (alberto) also runs a logger but I'm not sure how that works. There is a wiki entry on irc bots that might help you | |
| <boredandblogging> smurf, are you are here? | |
| <boredandblogging> if its not a hassle for others to do it, I guess that would be the preference, but if it is, we can probably set up something ourselves | |
| <Rinchen> that was my situation with #ubuntu-colorado I realized that we didn't need one | |
| <Rinchen> so we didn't put one on | |
| <Rinchen> admittedly I did run my own for a while and after reading the logs I came to that conclusion | |
| <boredandblogging> yeah, its not like georgia gets a lot of traffic, but since I had the time, thought I'd go ahead and set it up | |
| <Rinchen> and while you're doing that, please make sure to document it for the LoCo wiki ;-) | |
| <Rinchen> please | |
| <Rinchen> please | |
| <boredandblogging> haha | |
| <boredandblogging> i can't find anything about irc logging on the wiki | |
| <boredandblogging> nevermind | |
| <boredandblogging> actually, I've found references to the bots and logs...i'm just going to email smurf | |
| <boredandblogging> alright, I just emailed smurf | |
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| <smurf> boredandblogging: whcih channel? | |
| <boredandblogging> #ubuntu-georgia | |
| <boredandblogging> smurf, sent you an email too | |
| <boredandblogging> about the same thing | |
| <smurf> done | |
| <boredandblogging> thanks! | |
| <boredandblogging> if its not there already, I'm going to put on the LoCo set up pages to contact you for irc loggers, is that ok? | |
| <yann2> http://www.ubuntu-eu.org/?page_id=5 | |
| <mdke> yann2: doesn't seem to work | |
| <yann2> mdke > the page or nsset? | |
| <mdke> the page, was just slow to load | |
| <yann2> oh? :( | |
| <mdke> how do you decide who gets the secret keys? approved loco teams? | |
| <yann2> i'd say lococontacts | |
| <yann2> for approved locoteams, yes | |
| <mdke> ok cool | |
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