<clotarn> hello, is some one can help me to restore a grub ? please

<Madpilot> clotarn, try #ubuntu, it's far busier than this channel

<clotarn> oki, thanks

<PiNE> i dropped my external drive and it is messed. does anyone know of someone in the montreal area that is good at data recovery at a reasonable price?

<PiNE> i looked at craigslist but i trust the opinions i hear more.

<jamonation> PiNE: does the drive spin up?

<PiNE> jamonation, i'm not certain by what you mean by spin up but it does seem to be fairly normal, it starts fine, it lights up, it sounds right but then, fairly rhythmicly it makes a higher pitch sound.

<PiNE> jamonation, but other than the sound and the not mounting it seems okay

<jamonation> PiNE: try using dd if=/dev/sdx of=/home/PiNE/file.img

<jamonation> see if it can copy any data whilst unmounted

<jamonation> unlikely, but worth a shot

<PiNE_> jamonation, where will it copy the data to? (my computer's harddrive is small)

<PiNE_> sorry i read the command line it will copy it to my home directory.

<PiNE_> could i move it to a different usb drive (my partner has a 300G which could hold it all just fine)

<PiNE_> ?

<jamonation> yep

<jamonation> anywhere is fine

<jamonation> and the sdx is of course /sda1 or whatever the drive shows up as

<jamonation> you wouldn't want to copy your 300gb drive to your 300gb drive...

<jamonation> don't mean to get your hopes up though, it sounds like it is past the point of easy recoverability

<PiNE_> so the new line would be: dd if=/dev/sdx of=/media/PiNE/file.img? sdx being the drive i want to remove data from and PINE being the drive i want it to go to?

<PiNE_> my drive is only 180gb so hers could swollow mine in one gulp!

<jamonation> right, ok

<jamonation> try this first just to get an idea of which drive is which

<jamonation> cfdisk /dev/sda

<jamonation> and then cfdisk /dev/sdb

<jamonation> that will show you sizes and partitions on those 2 drives

<PiNE_> okay. one second i have to go get hers.

<jamonation> if you have more sata or usb drives, sdc1, sdd1, etc.

<PiNE_> jamonation, sdb gave me a "fatal error" and a "couldn't open the disk drive"

<jamonation> and that is the dropped drive?

<jamonation> if so, best turn it off and keep it safe until you can get it to a recovery expert

<PiNE_> yeah that is the dropped drive.

<jamonation> ok, it sounds like it ispretty screwed then

<jamonation> if you go with a recovery company, make sure to get a quote first

<PiNE_> yeah, it's funny it only fell less than half a meter

<jamonation> sometimes they'll just takeit and charge you

<PiNE_> without recovering the info?

<jamonation> no, they'll recover it and then charge you

<PiNE_> yeah that is fine.

<jamonation> whereas the good companies will examine the drive, tell you what they need to do, give you a quote

<jamonation> and then proceed if you give them the ok

<PiNE_> that's why i was looking to see if anyone knew a data recovery person that they trusted.

<jamonation> cbl i thinkit is

<jamonation> but they're at least $400 for a basic recovery

<jamonation> ontrack are corporate but good I hear too

<PiNE_> whoa.

<jamonation> yeah...

<jamonation> there's a good one in toronto, let me think

<jamonation> might have a montreal office

<jamonation> rt-t soft or something I think

<PiNE_> i'll check into it...i'm still reeling over the price.

<PiNE_> thanks

<jamonation> that's pretty standard I think too

<jamonation> sorry to say

<jamonation> PiNE_: here they are: http://www.r-tt.com/

<dennister> hey ppls :)

<dennister> k...later :)

<PiNE_> jamonation, cheers, i'll check them out.

<dennister> anyone awake in here? :)

<wikityler> Does anyone else here use democracy?

<Madpilot> our goverment pretends to

<PFA> wikityler: i ate democracy for breakfast.

<PFA> then i had monarchy for lunch.

<Madpilot> anarchy is on the menu for dinner, if you can get it organized?

<PFA> yeah. the carrots keep plotting a revolution.

<robitaille> I just wonder if wikityler meant "democracyplayer', the application that is currently broken in Feisty...

<Madpilot> I keep forgetting about that mediaplayer, actually

<robitaille> I was using democracy player for all my audio and video podcasts...it has been broken in Feisty for at least one month, so I had to start using something else

<wikityler> Oops. guess im supposed to follow up on my half questions...i'm on edgy, and it works but just barely. it uses all of my 1.2ghz and takes forever to even move the cursor when using it.

<robitaille> wikityler: yes I used to experience something similar when I was running it on Edgy. I was even running in Windows for a while since democracy player was working better in that OS. It got a little bit better when I upgraded the momory, but then I upgraded to Feisty and then democracy broke due to some python issues

<lophyte> hey all

<clotarn> hello, my problem is : where can I find the fonts on my hdd to put them in scribe ?

<jamonation> clotarn: check in /usr/share/fonts

<jamonation> and you can also use find: find / *.ttf |grep .ttf

<clotarn> ok thanks and I add the "road" in scribus ?

<jamonation> you can also search for .pfa files

<jamonation> never used scribus

<jamonation> when you find the fonts though, copy them to your fonts directory in /home/clotarn/.fonts

<clotarn> I 'll do that, ok, very thanks you jamonation

<jamonation> enjoy

<clotarn> hm, in user share fonts, I have 3 files , shall I open them and copy all the fonts or simply the directories ? (don't saythink I'm stupid ... Yes I am ;)

<jamonation> tbh, i can't say, scribus should see all your installed fonts already

<clotarn> unfortunately not it seems

<jamonation> hmm

<clotarn> yes same hmm for me

<clotarn> lool

<jamonation> take a look in fonts:/// in nautilus

* jamonation was overlooking the obvious

<mylesbraithwaite> jamonation: are you coming to the linuxcaffe today?

<jamonation> mylesbraithwaite: i just got home from a house call, rather tired of technical stuff

<jamonation> sorry to say, are you there now?

<mylesbraithwaite> ya

<jamonation> busy or are all the mapping people out mapping?

<mylesbraithwaite> i am working on operation cold comfort video

<jamonation> sweet!

<mylesbraithwaite> only about three are still here

<jamonation> tell them i stuck it on digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/OpenStreetMap_weekend_Toronto

<jamonation> mylesbraithwaite: i setup courier/postfix with mysql I think

<jamonation> courier-imap for sure, not so sure about postfix

<mylesbraithwaite> telnet localhost 25?

<jamonation> EHLO localhost returns nothing

<mylesbraithwaite> hm

<jamonation> that's why I'm not sure

<mylesbraithwaite> is it on metalug?

<jamonation> yeah, that server

<mylesbraithwaite> if you don't mind i will take a look

<jamonation> http://www.howtoforge.com/fedora_virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier is what I used

<jamonation> i think the only problem might be that i skipped the sasl auth part

<jamonation> and didn't install smapassassin or razor etc.

<jamonation> but yeah, go for it

<mylesbraithwaite> that shouldn't matter

<jamonation> i didn't think it would either

<jamonation> but it worked before

<jamonation> strange thing is postfix starts without throwing an error

<mylesbraithwaite> i does that

<jamonation> oh

<mylesbraithwaite> did you see /var/log/syslog?

<jamonation> no, lots there?

<mylesbraithwaite> there is an error near this dict_proxy_open

<jamonation> or the" "is postfix-mysql installed" thing?

<jamonation> lol, thanks

<jamonation> it's the simple things that getmeeverytime

<jamonation> like typing for example :)

<mylesbraithwaite> i thought this computer is running debian?

<jamonation> itis

<mylesbraithwaite> have you thought any more about getting a deicated server?

<jamonation> if I had the fundage, I'd be on one in a second

<mylesbraithwaite> i am trying to get people to do a share with me

<jamonation> well, how much are you wanting to contribute? I'm only really able to pitch in $20 a month

<mylesbraithwaite> same amount

<mylesbraithwaite> so we would need about 3 more

<jamonation> lophyte would be good for the same I think

<jamonation> david from linuxcaffe maybe another, ask him

<mylesbraithwaite> i might take the rest

<jamonation> we need to get his site moved to something more robust and accessible

<jamonation> if we could make money off hosting people's sites, it would pay for itself

<mylesbraithwaite> that what i was thinking

<jamonation> i've got a friend that works for hostopia that can do reseller kind of stuff for shared web hosting

<jamonation> hostopia is a massive company that does reselling to the likes of rogers and telus

<jamonation> so he knows his stuff

<mylesbraithwaite> i would only need at most 2GB of website space

<jamonation> yeah, same

<jamonation> though most dedicated boxes come with at least 40gb now

<mylesbraithwaite> ya the rest for the customers

<mylesbraithwaite> I also know that TorRor guys are looking for a local rails host

<jamonation> hmm, that could be a good piece of business right there

<jamonation> i've got a friend on this plan: http://prioritycolo.com/hosting/dedicated/36

<jamonation> a little pricey

<mylesbraithwaite> ya we need about 100

<mylesbraithwaite> an month

<jamonation> colocation is cheaper long term, but hardware upfront and maintenance are costly

<jamonation> you know good dedicated hosts?

<mylesbraithwaite> all i know is 1and1

<mylesbraithwaite> check out http://order.1and1.com:80/xml/order/ServerRoot;jsessionid=CF2C39EB943181076AA133D5011EBBE0.TC61a?__frame=_top&__lf=Static

<jamonation> those are all in USD

<jamonation> priority colo is downtown toronto and their prices are CAD

<jamonation> hmm, plesk for 100 seats though, that could be handy for reselling

<mylesbraithwaite> better open source ones though

<jamonation> yeah

<jamonation> http://iweb8.com/dedicated/budget-servers/now-I/

<jamonation> montreal based

<jamonation> start at $69 a month

<mylesbraithwaite> that could work and we would only need 4 people

<jamonation> yeah

<mylesbraithwaite> what would you use for the os

<jamonation> http://veryserv.com/pricing-cdn.html for $95 a month

<jamonation> what do you think? debian? centos?

<mylesbraithwaite> debian

<jamonation> yeah

<mylesbraithwaite> do we really need 160GB

<jamonation> not especially I don't think

<mylesbraithwaite> ya i think 60GB is enought

<mylesbraithwaite> for iweb8 where is it located

<jamonation> yeah, it looks pretty decent

<jamonation> might have to search for some reviews

<mylesbraithwaite> ya have you heard of hostingfu

<mylesbraithwaite> http://hostingfu.com/

<jamonation> let's each spend a few hours this week researching, then maybe meet and discuss each of our top 3 selections?

<jamonation> no, I'll check

<johanbr> A friend of mine used to be involved with something called Toronto Community Colo, which had colo for very decent prices.

<jamonation> yeah, I've heard about them

<jamonation> but they limit each machine to a 128kbit link IIRC

<jamonation> which is pretty restrictive

<mylesbraithwaite> and we have to have our own pizza box

<jamonation> yeah, that's the worst part

<mylesbraithwaite> here is the thread at TorRor http://groups.google.com/group/torror/browse_thread/thread/26eb13182067fc1a?hl=en

<mylesbraithwaite> the problem is that rails requires an ssh login

<jamonation> Intel P4 2.66Ghz / 1GB DDR RAM / 2 * 80GB SATA / 1000GB Transfer - Only $100/month.

<jamonation> 3z.ca

<jamonation> well, clients can have a login but just make them use passkey

<mylesbraithwaite> i don't think most of them will know that that means

<jamonation> that's what a wiki is for

<mylesbraithwaite> i think a passkey can be used with putty right

<jamonation> or we run everything chrooted for each account

<jamonation> yeah, putty can take a key

<jamonation> and puttygen can convert from gpg I think

<mylesbraithwaite> i like that idea

<jamonation> chrooting would take a lot of resources

<matjan> a friends opinion of M$: "M$ seems to have peaked. Their best work is what they buy from others. They have a long tradition of buying others good technology and repackaging as their own."

<jamonation> symantec does the same, adobe too

<jamonation> apple took freebsd and saved the cost of buying from someone else :)

<matjan> jamonation, true

<matjan> that's the risk of being open source, ey?

<jamonation> the risk of being BSD licensed :)

<jamonation> open source, and everyone running mac would have the source to their $1200 machine and OSX

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