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<soham_> hi guys

<msak007> Hey guys

<soham_> hi

<soham_> it starts at 8

<msak007> yea i know i'm a little early...just wanted to see what was goin on

<soham_> pretty much dead right now

<soham_> lol

<msak007> lol ok

<msak007> well i guess i'll be back later

<msak007> 8 right?

<soham_> ya

<msak007> k

<msak007> later

<soham_> or u can stay

<soham_> idle

<msak007> yea

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<meatballhat> this is embarrassing :P

<rrittenhouse> wb

<rrittenhouse> ;)

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<meatballhat> ugh

<soham_> lol

<meatballhat> wtf???

<Vorian> porc::inca::dito everyone!

<Vorian> whats wrong meatballhat ?

<meatballhat> cannot ... kill ... evil ... twin ....

<rrittenhouse> haha

<soham_> urrrr

<Vorian> /ns ghost <nick> <password>

<meatballhat> did dat

<meatballhat> harumph

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<Vorian> haha

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<meatballhat> hehe

<Vorian> that is weird

<meatballhat> this is ridiculous :P

<Vorian> oh, your an op

<soham_> give me

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<Vorian> do you have two clients running meatballhat?

<meatballhat> certainly not here, and I swear I turned off Xchat at work :P .... whatever :D

<meatballhat> yeah, I must've forgotten to log off at work :D ... I'm reeeeal slick like that

<Vorian> haha

<soham_> lol

<Vorian> looks like we have some newcomers tonight, we should do intro's.

<soham_> i am not like real new to linux

<soham_> but to ubuntu yes

<Vorian> ah, welcome :)

<Vorian> I don't really know anything :P

<msak007> hey guys

<Vorian> hiya msak007, glad to see you could finally make a meeting!

<msak007> yea i called off work today cuz of the snow :)

<Vorian> uh oh....

<msak007> so i'm actually home for once during a meeting...thought i'd attend

<soham_> 15 inches

<msak007> yea it was crazy

<msak007> we got a lot in trumbull county

<soham_> UA is shut down

<msak007> probly about 15-16 inches or so

<msak007> and my hour long drive to work would've taken at least 2 and i had to be there @ 7:30...tack on top of that all the shoveling i would've had to do to get out in the first place

<msak007> lol

<msak007> i was like um...i'm not comin in today

<Vorian> everyone join in at #ubuntuforums too :)

<soham_> I work at delaware

<Vorian> ---------> #ubuntuforums

<soham_> they having like level 3 emergency

<msak007> delaware?

<soham_> ya

<msak007> hey vorian is that also on irc.freenode.net? it's sayin my nick is in use

<Vorian> yep it is

<Vorian> /join #ubuntuforums

<Vorian> what client do you use?

<msak007> ahh ok

<msak007> got it

<Vorian> yay!

<msak007> i use konversation

<Vorian> we're trying to break 100

<msak007> i don't really use irc all that often so i'm kinda new to it

<Vorian> me too

<hackle577> hello all!

<Vorian> hey hackle577 :)

<msak007> hey

<Vorian> hey Brady_M :)

<hackle577> I just wanted to say

<hackle577> that i wont be able to stay tonihgt

<hackle577> tonight

<hackle577> hot date

<hackle577> :-)

<hackle577> it IS valentines

<Vorian> well, its good to know where your priorities are...

<hackle577> i tried to get her to let me stay but, you know how it is

<msak007> haha

<Vorian> make her join the team

<Brady_M> Vorian: HI there. Day 2 cooped in my house now we got a lvl 3 emergency ARGH!!!

<hackle577> vorian: im trying lol

<hackle577> i already explained to her what a livecd was and what "booting" was

<hackle577> she's more artistically inclined

<Vorian> all work and no play makes Brady_M a dull boy?

<soham_> lol

<Brady_M> Vorian: I sold a complete I got to finish at work. I can't drive. :( Stupid lvl3! And still snowing grr!

<Vorian> :(

<msak007> it's kinda stopped here, a lot of the main roads are clean

<soham_> lol

<hackle577> it's stopped here (Butler County) all the roads are mushy, it's more like walking in oatmeal than in snow

<hackle577> so that's what you have to look forward to

<msak007> yea that's kinda how it is here

<Brady_M> Snow was up to half way to the door of our van

<soham_> Franklin is lvl 2

<hackle577> wow

<soham_> right?

<Vorian> Ross is a level 2

<hackle577> did anyone see the pictures of that water main break in columbus? i think they were on digg

<soham_> no

<Vorian> hackle577, nope, got a link?

<Brady_M> hackle577: Uh uh.

<msak007> no

* hackle577 is looking...

<soham_> found it

<soham_> http://picasaweb.google.com/haqthat/West9thAvenueIceSculptures

<hackle577> thanks soham, i couldnt find it

<hackle577> alright guys well im out

<hackle577> see you guys in the logs

<soham_> http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=haqthat

<theidiotthatisme> That snow is crazy

<theidiotthatisme> Just walked to the store and almost got hit lol

<soham_> lol

<theidiotthatisme> Crazy drivers O:-)

<msak007> those pics are crazy

<rrittenhouse> 8pm

<Vorian> ------------>Ohio LoCo Meeting Begins<--------------

<Vorian> Welcome to one and all!

* Vorian listens in silence

<rrittenhouse> - to ? :)

<soham_> lol

<meatballhat> helloooo everyone :)

<theidiotthatisme> How-How-Howdy

<soham_> waiting more members

<Vorian> There are some congratulations in order for two of our team members....

<soham_> wat

<msak007> brb

<Vorian> First is mr meatballhat on becoming an official Ubuntu Member!

<rrittenhouse> <-- Isn't one. I was a bad boy and didnt do his assignment :(

* Vorian highfives meatballhat

<soham_> i need to go to the lu

<rrittenhouse> way to go

* meatballhat blushes :)

<theidiotthatisme> Yays for meatballhat

<soham_> congrats

<Vorian> yay!

* theidiotthatisme cheers

<meatballhat> now I can slack off and start spamming under my ubuntu.com email :P

<Vorian> meatballhat, tru dat

<Vorian> :)

<rrittenhouse> and the second??? :)

<Vorian> congratulations are also in order for jacobmp92 !

<soham_> good job

<Vorian> he is the co-leader of the unanswered posts team on ubuntu forums!

<meatballhat> jacobmp92: congrats!!!

<rrittenhouse> haha cool congrats

<soham_> and he is idle

<soham_> lol

<Vorian> everyone leave your mark on this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=360619

<theidiotthatisme> And it goes quiet... like a school room in the midst of summer...

<Vorian> foo

<Vorian> ok!

<theidiotthatisme> Hi Stephen :-)

<Vorian> let start with some intro's

* meatballhat leaves mark per Vorian's instruction :)

<stephen> hello theidiotthatisme

<Vorian> what?

<Vorian> ok

<Vorian> I'm Steve

<Vorian> I love ubuntu

<Vorian> I love Ubuntu Forums

<Vorian> I love our LoCo team

<Vorian> questions?

<Vorian> who's next..... :P

<theidiotthatisme> That's a lot of love man. Still got room for your wife in there? ;)

<Vorian> thats the understood you

<Vorian> (you)

<msak007> ok sorry guys i'm back

<Vorian> anyone else?

<meatballhat> What's on the docket for tonight?

<theidiotthatisme> I'll introduce myself

<theidiotthatisme> I'm Anthony, I love long walks on the beach and holding hands and... oh....

<theidiotthatisme> lol just kidding guys :-)

<theidiotthatisme> I love Ubuntu, and I love this LoCo, and Vorian has been doing a great job

* Brady_M nods

<theidiotthatisme> I'm currently head of the Education Team, and a member of the CD Team and Communication Team

<theidiotthatisme> And if you need any questions, ask Vorian, he's the main man, I'm just lazy ;)

<Vorian> haha

<Vorian> next?

<msak007> ok all caught up on the backlog, congrats meatballhat and jacobmp92

<msak007> i'll introduce myself

<msak007> my name is Motasim, you guys can call me Mo

<soham_> ok go first

<msak007> not really active in the LoCo, I joined about a month back and want to get more involved buy I think you guys are doing an awesome job so far

<theidiotthatisme> Hi Mo! Welcome to Ubuntu Anonymous :-D

<msak007> i'm normally not at these meetings because of work and other obligations on Wednesdays so you may not see me at too many meetings

<msak007> oh and I prefer KDE over Gnome :)

<msak007> that's all

* Vorian boo's at that

<msak007> haha

<theidiotthatisme> msak007: Stock KDE or Kubuntu-desktop?

<theidiotthatisme> Hey Hey no booing, I use XFCE ;)

<theidiotthatisme> lol

<msak007> well with this install of Edgy I installed Kubuntu desktop

<msak007> with Feisty, I might install server and then install base kde

<soham_> I use xdesktop

* Vorian is 100% gnome

<theidiotthatisme> Sweet, a variety of DE users :-)

<soham_> lol

<theidiotthatisme> (Helpful for F2F if we are familiar with different DE's)

<Brady_M> Ehm. I'm Brady. I go by o0splitpaw0o in the forums. And I am green too. I been here for 3 weeks now. and blogging ang blogging and blogging away about this . :)

<soham_> I will go next

<theidiotthatisme> Brady_M What's your blog site?

<Brady_M> theidiotthatisme: http://blog.adminremote.com as of now

<soham_> My name is soham

<soham_> I am a linux freak using it for like 15 years. I am osu student too.

<Vorian> gd gd

<Vorian> :)

<Vorian> some of us love the buckeye's

<Vorian> anyone else want to speak up?

<Vorian> let us get to know you a bit?

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat, rrittenhouse, Pwill?

<soham_> My favorite os is Unix

<theidiotthatisme> Ya know you want to ;)

<meatballhat> oops sorry :D

<meatballhat> Hello, my name is Dan Buch

<meatballhat> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanBuch

<meatballhat> I'm learning Python :)

<meatballhat> I work for the man, but he's a very nice man

<stephen> i like my speakers. :P

<Vorian> lol

<stephen> when i plug in headphones

<meatballhat> my dogs are usually confused, and my cat is always a little princess

<soham_> lol

<msak007> hehe

<stephen> sound comes out of my headphones and my labtop speakers

<soham_> i am indo-russian too

<soham_> just wanted to share it

<Vorian> :)

<meatballhat> anything else you wanna know, please catch me on IRC or Jabber: daniel.buch@gmail.com :)

<Vorian> great!

<Vorian> nice to meet you dan!

<meatballhat> Vorian: Ha Ha .... :P

<rrittenhouse> im b...b..back :)

<Vorian> I think your dog wants to kill me with his/her eyes

<meatballhat> she knows everything...

<meatballhat> about whatever food you've eaten in the past month...

<theidiotthatisme> Better ditch your hard drive Vorian

<theidiotthatisme> lol

<Vorian> haha

<soham_> lol

<Vorian> anyone else want to go?

<meatballhat> anybody else here with a beagle or a basset? :D

<rrittenhouse> Short and sweet..

<rrittenhouse> actually meatballhat i have a puggle

<rrittenhouse> pug and beagle

<Vorian> rrittenhouse, we are doing intro's

<rrittenhouse> and a pekingese

<meatballhat> a puggle!!! yay!!!

<rrittenhouse> we adopted him. hes kind of a pita

* meatballhat loves dogs, but not in that creepy elitist way

<rrittenhouse> haha

<Vorian> ok

<rrittenhouse> looking for a puggle? ;)

<soham_> haha

<jgedeon> Evening Everyone.

<rrittenhouse> haha anyhow!

<Vorian> hey jgedeon :)

<Vorian> let me direct everyone's attention to this link

<Vorian> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda

* jgedeon waves around the room to everyone!

* theidiotthatisme waves back at jgedeon

<rrittenhouse> :)

<Vorian> look at the locoteams section....

<meatballhat> YAY!!!

* Vorian does a backflip

<jgedeon> KEWL!

<theidiotthatisme> Vorian: Will you send an announcement on Forums and mailing list when they find out when the next meeting will be?

<Vorian> theidiotthatisme, yes sir

<theidiotthatisme> Vorian: Thank you very much, I would love to attend the meeting :-)

<Vorian> theidiotthatisme, np

<Vorian> I have a very reliable source

<Vorian> who tells me

<theidiotthatisme> Yeah. Unfortunately I lost my birdie :-( I was really hungry earlier...

<Vorian> Shuttleworth loves us and we are ringers to get the nod

<theidiotthatisme> Shuttleworth?

<Vorian> Mark Shuttleworth!

<Vorian> sabdfl!

<theidiotthatisme> lol I know who he is :-P

<msak007> awesome

<meatballhat> know how he's a retired Cosmonaut?

<Vorian> the minister of magic

<theidiotthatisme> I just wasn't aware he even knew what we were doing or if he kept tabs on things like the LoCo's

<meatballhat> he said we were "on the right trajectory" ...heeheehee

<Vorian> haha

<Vorian> hold on

<Vorian> I have some quotes too

<Vorian> (07:35:39 PM) sabdfl: and a VERY neat wiki page :-)

<Vorian> (07:32:59 PM) sabdfl: team ohio! land of the famous linuxfest :-)

<Vorian> and so on...

<rrittenhouse> :)

<theidiotthatisme> lol!

<msak007> cool

<theidiotthatisme> sabdfl... that's him?

<rrittenhouse> linuxfest ..i cant wait ;)

<Vorian> he said many more cool things to meatballhat

<theidiotthatisme> I missed the last one :-(

<meatballhat> so now we have to focus, that's all :)

<soham_> lol

<Vorian> What is one activity we can do within a month, as a team?

<theidiotthatisme> So Mr. MS really commented huh? Now I feel special :-D lol

<theidiotthatisme> Cement getting Ubuntu CD's into Libraries and stores

<Vorian> thats a good one

* Vorian thinks we need a secretary

<PWill> Hey, sorry I'm late

<Vorian> w00t PWill

<meatballhat> PWill: !!! hallooo!

<theidiotthatisme> Hi PWill!

<jgedeon> Evening PWill

<PWill> evening

<Brady_M> theidiotthatisme: you guys mentioned last week about indexing Ubuntu?

<Vorian> hey real quick, lets help break a record at #ubuntuforums

<PWill> Have I mussed much?

<Vorian> everyone join #ubuntuforums

<Brady_M> theidiotthatisme: in the libraries? what do you mean by that?

<theidiotthatisme> Brady_M: Indexing them? *confuzzled*

<msak007> public libraries?

<PWill> missed*

<theidiotthatisme> Yes I think we should focus on public libraries

<Vorian> any other ideas?

<meatballhat> +1 for focus on libraries :D

<theidiotthatisme> And any smaller electronic or computer store (I think they're going to need a hand in advantage. Nothing like Free software)

<Brady_M> theidiotthatisme: let me read back on the the issue of libraries. I mentioned it would be an easy walk into the library here and ask, but you mentioned a specific title. for it... uhg one moment

<msak007> how do you guys approach that - do you just go to a library and ask to leave CDs there?

<jgedeon> I would also like to place some in the school libraries in the school that I am working with.

<meatballhat> msak007: we're going at them from both ends

<meatballhat> walk in the door ...

<theidiotthatisme> jgedeon: If you can do it, go for it

<meatballhat> and sneak in the back

<jacobmp92> my apologies.. bob evans seemed to have a need to keep my waiting for two hours

<msak007> haha

<meatballhat> jacobmp92: hellooo!

<Vorian> wecome mr team leader

<jacobmp92> :-D

<arustyspork> Brady_M, enjoying the days off?

<meatballhat> http://www.oplin.org/ <--back door #1

<Brady_M> arustyspork: no, not really. I like staying busy. no work= no money for me.

<meatballhat> http://www.ohionet.org/index.php <-- back door #2

<meatballhat> at OPLIN, the chairman already uses Ubuntu :)

<msak007> really?

<theidiotthatisme> That's a plus :-D

<meatballhat> Stephen Hedges is a great guy ... he even already joined our mailing list

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: Sometime will you email me, I got emails earlier about contacting those two and am slightly confused on what we're approaching and how we're doing that so I know what to know when going in to the libraries

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: np :)

<theidiotthatisme> Meatballhat: Thank you :-D

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: you're moving "back east," right?

<theidiotthatisme> Already have

<theidiotthatisme> I'm in Boardman

<Vorian> everyone join #ubuntuforums again....

<msak007> whoa cool, i'm in warren :)

<jgedeon> Welcome back Neighbor.

<theidiotthatisme> And soon in summer I might be back in Niles

<theidiotthatisme> Well thank you :-D lol

<msak007> cool

<arustyspork> Brady_M, yeah thats true im bored, sams here, i got a new lappy Dell D400 1.4ghz p-m centrino spec 512 ram cd-rw/dvd external no drive internal so its like 3.4lbs

<theidiotthatisme> and I'm hoping to talk to the schools of Niles about the Education project

<theidiotthatisme> The schools there need something to boost their image and I think our team might be a good start

<Vorian> how can we coordinate this library move?

<rhys> wtf? school of the niles?

<rhys> ooo. im in the MEETING. :)

<jgedeon> Vorian are we going to have the Feisty CD's to place or are we placing 6.06?

<Vorian> /cs l r

<theidiotthatisme> the schools of Niles? You know... Niles Schools District.. lol

<theidiotthatisme> jgedeon: My vote is on 6.06, but there have been talks about distributing both which is also a good idea

<Vorian> jgedeon, thats what the CC meeting is about

<jgedeon> Ok

<PWill> Vorian, jacobmp92 meatballhat rrittenhouse: Now that we have officially chosen a base theme and completely converted to Drupal 5.0, we need to actually do stuff with the theme

<Vorian> we get *500* CD's every release as a team

<rhys> for linux to be in any school district you must have an intellegent Admin. and as one vendor at the Ohio Linux Confrence put it ( "so shes MSCE". "Yea, whatever."

<theidiotthatisme> Vorian: hehe. FUN!

<meatballhat> PWill: you bring up an apropos topic: LoCo Communication!

<Vorian> PWill, ?

<jacobmp92> PWill: should we wait until the new design is revealed on ubuntu.com before modifying an old theme?

<theidiotthatisme> Rhys: I'm aiming for the Education Project in Niles. Linux can come later lol

<meatballhat> Now that we have focus, let us make it visible on our main site

<jgedeon> rhys, I already have one district seriously looking to convert.

<msak007> which school?

<rhys> theidiotthatisme, should i google this?

<Vorian> PWill, jacobmp92 we need to get that support module loaded asap on the site

<jgedeon> Southeast Local School District in Portage County.

<theidiotthatisme> jgedeon: Once I move to Niles I will attend some meetings because I think some of the elemtary schools could benefit from Edubuntu

<jacobmp92> Vorian: working on that :)

<PWill> Who here knows PHP fluently?

<theidiotthatisme> Rhys: What do you want to Google?

<PWill> oh

<Vorian> jacobmp92, :)

<soham_> he does

<jacobmp92> PWill: i have the module loaded, there just isnt much in the code yet :-p

<rhys> jgedeon, if their in portage county shouldnt they use gentoo?

<soham_> i know him

<PWill> jacobmp92: if you need help themeing the module you know who to ask

<jacobmp92> ah hey soham_ i didn't realize you were here

<jacobmp92> PWill: ok :)

<soham_> lol

<msak007> lol rhys

<soham_> hey jacob

<rhys> theidiotthatisme, niles school district project?

-Vorian- back to the topic of libraries

<theidiotthatisme> Vorian: Sorry for going off topic :-)

<Vorian> ah! it worked:)

<msak007> ok...so what to do with the links meatballhat posted?

<arustyspork> Brady_M, sent you a link on PM ill continue this convo there didnt realise i was kinda crashing the meeting :)

<Vorian> So how can we coordinate this effort

<meatballhat> msak007: most of what we need to do goes like this:

<meatballhat> there are mailing lists maintained by OPLIN and OHIONET

<PWill> On the topic of libraries, Columbus Metropolitan is probably not a good contender for our Ubuntu crusade

<meatballhat> If we get a plan in place to offer CDs and training...

<meatballhat> we can send a snazzy-lookin email to these lists...

<meatballhat> and instantly adopt the cred of both OPLIN and OHIONET

<soham_> That is a goood idea

<meatballhat> or so said the peeps I talked to

<meatballhat> we're trying to avoid the Junk folder :)

<msak007> so basically the email would be for anyone whose interested to email you for more info

<theidiotthatisme> Junk Folder = Bad

<jgedeon> I see no problem with a little beginner class on Ubuntu and the differences from M$.

<soham_> or train people with the help of youtube

<rhys> ooo. so where is NIles

<msak007> *who's

<rrittenhouse> soham_, thats a good idea too

<msak007> trumbull county...bout 15 minutes north of youngstown

<PWill> Last summer, a friend and I set up a meeting with the Columbus Metropolitan Library, created a slideshow, and showed them all the benefits of using Firefox over IE. We even pointed out 4 critical holes in IE that they had not patched. After that, they told us that it was a nice presentation, but they were reluctant to use open source software because of their "experiences with it"

<meatballhat> especially with OHIONET, they publish a list of classes, and we should have something ready in time for the Fall schedule

<soham_> screencating

<DwyII> PWill: Any idea what experiences?

<Vorian> PWill, the idea is to get Ubuntu into the Libraries catalog...

<Vorian> not to get libraries to use it

<PWill> Vorian: I know

<Vorian> kk

<PWill> DwyII: no, they didn't say

<meatballhat> soham_: have you looked into the LP team that's already on this case ... w/screencasts, that is?

<rrittenhouse> PWill, I guess thats when you have to learn about those experiences and we have to change them! ;) Maybe they have a new tech director haha

<rrittenhouse> we can only hope

<soham_> i didn't

<PWill> rrittenhouse: i hope so

<soham_> sorry

<DwyII> It's a shame some other freeware tarnished the overall genre's reputation. :(

<PWill> rrittenhouse: the guy seemed like he got an A+ cert out of a cereal box

<meatballhat> if there are members who want to do screencasts, that's great, as it benefits all LoCo Teams...

<rrittenhouse> haha most people do

<rhys> PWill, experiences? you mean being free and better?

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: Sent you a pm

<rrittenhouse> your not required to update them

<PWill> rhys: that's what i said

<PWill> they just kind of brushed us away

<rrittenhouse> Also if we just try and get them to allow it in their catalog maybe they will be OK with it instead of changing something on their active set up. It IS a different situation....

<rrittenhouse> im just curious on how you even go about getting stuff like that in the catalog

<msak007> what's the "catalog"?

<jgedeon> PWill: was the only person that brushed you away a single person and possibly their IT admin?

<rrittenhouse> their list of books? stuff you can check out

<Vorian> rrittenhouse, yep

<PWill> jgedeon: Most of the IT staff seemed rather reluctant

<msak007> well i know about the book catalog...is there also a software catalog?

<rhys> word @ msak007

<jgedeon> Hmmm.. Challanges are enjoyable.... WEG

<theidiotthatisme> msak007: Have you ever walked into a library with movies, and CD's also? Libraries are starting to expand quite a bit

<msak007> honestly i haven't been to a library in a long time

<msak007> last library i was in was my university's library, and that was 3 years ago

<PWill> msak007: :-O

<msak007> can't remember my last visit to a public library...i know it's bad i don't utilize it

<soham_> lol msak

* Brady_M guilty. me either

<jgedeon> Libraries and post offices are under utilized in the day of the internet and broadband.

-Vorian- 5 minute warning

<theidiotthatisme> jgedeon: Not for me :-)

<PWill> :-X we got off topic again

<msak007> we're still on topic of the libraries...that was my fault i asked about the catalog

<theidiotthatisme> I'm terrible at staying focused O:-)

<PWill> ha

<jgedeon> We know how we can benefit from the library but what benefit can we offer the library?

<theidiotthatisme> An expanded catalog at no expense to them? And a foray into new material

<meatballhat> training, simply put

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<theidiotthatisme> and yes, training too :-)

<jgedeon> Dan you might be onto something there..

<rrittenhouse> are we talking about making a type of training series?

<theidiotthatisme> Increased activity of the libraries

<meatballhat> free stuff is always good, and the peeps at OPLIN and OHIONET both confirmed that a resurgence in interest in FOSS is now happening throughout libraries

<jgedeon> Don't most have rooms that can be used for meetings and lectures?

<theidiotthatisme> jgedeon: Most do

<meatballhat> jgedeon: that's it exactly

<meatballhat> libraries are starved for attention on the IT front

<rhys> hmm

<hartleycharlene> Elyria definetely does

<theidiotthatisme> rrittenhouse: Maybe, that would fit well with cross-teamwork between the Marketing and the Education Team. I would love to see the collaboration

<rrittenhouse> yep ;)

<jgedeon> Getting more people into the library might help them get more use out of the facitlity.

<meatballhat> everyone, meet my older sister, hartleycharlene !!

<theidiotthatisme> Hi hartleycharlene!

<msak007> hi

<rrittenhouse> hii hartleycharlene

* theidiotthatisme waves hi

<soham_> hey hartleycharlene

<Vorian> hello hartleycharlene

* jgedeon waves tio hartleycharlene

<msak007> brb guys

<Vorian> pinging her to death

<theidiotthatisme> ok msak007

<soham_> bye

<rhys> Brady_M, Richwood Public Library and Maarysville Public Library.

<rhys> Go out, fair crusader of FOSS!!

<jacobmp92> (a bit late on the uptake) hi hartleycharlene!

<PWill> Gotta go

<PWill> Talk to you all next week

<rrittenhouse> Are we allowed to put ubuntu in libraries?

<jgedeon> L8rs PWill

<meatballhat> PWill: laters :)

<rrittenhouse> I wasnt sure *how* that would work or if some of the people would flip on us or not ;)

<theidiotthatisme> Bye Pwill!

<rhys> rrittenhouse, allowed by who?

<rrittenhouse> Bye PWill

<jacobmp92> cya PWill

<hartleycharlene> hi all. (also slow this evening!)

<soham_> bye PWill

<jgedeon> rrittenhouse: with a little discussion I wouldn't see why not if the head of the library ok's it. there would be no cost to them and there would be a free tangable product for them to give away.,

<theidiotthatisme> This is all starting to become very exciting :-)

<soham_> it's v-day

<rrittenhouse> jgedeon, I mean say with Canonical...Im just saying they seem protective about the logo

<rrittenhouse> Stuff like that

<jgedeon> OH.

<rrittenhouse> Im just wondering if there isnt something we have to do that makes it official so we can do tihs

<rrittenhouse> this*

<Brady_M> jgedeon: Heck if AOL did it, I am sure it can be done, but isn't there a head per county that manages all the liraries/

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: no worries there ... especially if we're already using CDs from ShipIt

<jgedeon> Brady_M: should be.

<rrittenhouse> meatballhat, ok

<rrittenhouse> :)

<jgedeon> We also have little local libraries in our area.

<meatballhat> Brady_M: you've got it ... which is why we're partnering with OHIONET and OPLIN

<rrittenhouse> yeah we just a SMALL library here

<rrittenhouse> about the size of my kitchen and living room ;)

<theidiotthatisme> rrittenhouse: At least filled up? lol

<soham_> we have like 4 libraries

<Brady_M> jgedeon: I'll talk who is in charge and pass what , if any is required here locally. I'll message you later for an email

<rrittenhouse> yeah

<rrittenhouse> Well the cool part about having a small local library I might question the lady about the process

<rrittenhouse> Its the same person I chat with everytime I go down there so its less intimidating ;)

<Brady_M> that would be helpful. Somthing I can hand out so she/he and read it

<Brady_M> who to contact

<Brady_M> and what to expect

<meatballhat> Brady_M: lookie here about the materials part of it: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-us-ohio-f2f/+spec/ohio-cd-materials

<Brady_M> meatballhat thank you

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<Vorian> anything else to cover?

* Vorian dances b/c we have 80 members now!

<theidiotthatisme> Gettin up there :-)

<jacobmp92> woot for 80 members

* Vorian was dancing when we had 20

<meatballhat> DwyII has a funny tale of life in the trenches :)

<rrittenhouse> awesome!

* Brady_M *Bwaah!

<DwyII> Trenches? Oh no!

<jgedeon> Vorian: I just think we need the infor from the CC meeting so that we can plan more and start to make moves.

<jacobmp92> Vorian: i bet you were dancing the moment you created the team on launchpad ;)

<arustyspork> Brady_M, check ur pm :)

<Vorian> jacobmp92,

<Vorian> for real jacobmp92

<meatballhat> DwyII: tell us your tale!

<jacobmp92> lol

<Vorian> I danced with the 1st member other than me....

<DwyII> Yesterday I brought in my little iBook with Ubuntu on it, to school...I had to interview my math teacher, who also happens to be the department head.

<rhys> Whoohoo!! Brady_M, took me 21 seconds to be banned from DALnet. :D

<DwyII> I got the chance to show it to my computer applications teacher, and pointed out even the cross-OS Open Office stuff...

<jgedeon> rhys: do you really try hard to piss people off or does it come naturally?

<Vorian> 1st member was steven8

<DwyII> I had to tell him multiple times that, yes, it was all free. He could just look it up and get a disk sent to him.

<DwyII> "Wow, that would save a ton of money."

<jacobmp92> DwyII: nice

<rhys> jgedeon, depends on who they are. That time, ohh yes.

<jgedeon> DwyII: there is quite a bit of FOSS for MAth

<DwyII> I also got to show the math department head all the special features about it too, including how beryl > aero.

<DwyII> By far.

<rhys> is there any way i can make money off ubuntu? legally?

<meatballhat> it's worth mentioning that DwyII's district hasn't passed a levy in 10-odd years

<DwyII> Absolutely.

<rhys> like a, buy me lunch and ill get you installed and working. :)

<jacobmp92> rhys, there is the gpl but you have to provide the source also if you do sell it

<DwyII> ...Somehow, we got new flat-screen TVs in our cafeteria, and a new shiny sign out front, and an elevator...but we can't afford desks and textbooks.

<DwyII> It's a mystery.

<Vorian> lol

<rhys> jacobmp92, if they ask for the source?

<hartleycharlene> sounds like our school district!

<meatballhat> hartleycharlene: do tell :)

<DwyII> I think we finally started to update our computers from cruddy old Compaqs, but they would still have tons of potential with ubuntu on all of them instead.

<jacobmp92> rhys: yes

<theidiotthatisme> Sounds like many school districts

<meatballhat> hartleycharlene is teacher, btw

<DwyII> Er, to have ubuntu on them. :P

<Brady_M> oh, everyone seen the flash banner you can add to your blog, my space etc under the loco art? like, dislike, want more options?

<meatballhat> is A teacher, that is

<msak007> sorry bout that

<jgedeon> DwyII: LTSP!!!!

<theidiotthatisme> Brady_M Already on my blog

<jacobmp92> Brady_M: i like it for the most part, but the background it a bit distracting

<hartleycharlene> yes, a teacher of gifted students, but we have NO TECHNOLOGY!!

<theidiotthatisme> sorry my myspace

<theidiotthatisme> lol

<jacobmp92> Brady_M: maybe darken the bg a bit

<msak007> i'm back

<Brady_M> jacobmp92: I can make different revisions of it with different background that is no problem

<jgedeon> meatballhat I thought there are some systems going to her classroom?

<meatballhat> hartleycharlene needs an LTSP lab made outta the cpu's my boss donated ... next installfest?

<hartleycharlene> We have to get past Kokai first.

<meatballhat> jgedeon: you beat me to it :)

<jgedeon> Have to wait that long?

<Brady_M> theidiotthatisme: shot you a pm, tell me the url of it

<meatballhat> yeah... it'd help to have one Tech Director contact another....

<jgedeon> hartleycharlene: if they are donated to you for your classroom there should be anyone to get around.

<rhys> hmm

<meatballhat> when Ubuntu implementations are successful in schools

<rhys> whos up for banning my ip?

<rhys> :D

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<hartleycharlene> One would think...

* jacobmp92 uses op mode as a threat ;)

<Brady_M> rhys: stop man gawd

<hartleycharlene> Kokai had a problem with my borrowed SmartBoard and my personal laptop.

<jgedeon> hartleycharlene: that is how we got around a couple of things at the school I am working with now.

<rhys> jacobmp92, bet you wont. :->

<arustyspork> dont do it im on the same ip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<jgedeon> jacobmp92: do it

<jacobmp92> rhys: lol, i have the urge to

* rhys muhahahahs

<jgedeon> arustyspork: you just have to take one for the team???

<msak007> lol

<Brady_M> arustyspork: kick em' for me

<jacobmp92> arustyspork: i'll do a single-user one :_p

<jacobmp92> :-p**

<rhys> ohh yes. for the team!

<arustyspork> ok that works

<rhys> utoh. :\

<rhys> nvm? :D

<jacobmp92> lol, muahahaha

<rhys> anyway, back to the meeting

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<rhys> Brady_M, dont worry, hes now banned from both his channels on DALnet.

<theidiotthatisme> I'm heading out guys

<theidiotthatisme> You all have a goodnight :-)

<jgedeon> Night theidiotthatisme

<jacobmp92> see ya theidiotthatisme

<rhys> do you think we should tell our school to use ubuntu?

<msak007> you too

<Brady_M> theidiotthatisme: good night

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: laters :)

<rhys> nn theidiotthatisme

<msak007> good nite

<msak007> is the meeting still in session or is it over?

<meatballhat> msak007: mostly descended into chaos, it seems :)

<rhys> sorry bout that

<jgedeon> I thought it was over five minutes after Vorian gave the 5 minute warning.

<msak007> haha

<meatballhat> rhys: 'sokay ... this is an "informal" meeting, anyway :D

<rhys> but seriously, if we could convince our school..

* meatballhat brings hammer to Official meetings :)

<msak007> when are the official meetings?

<Brady_M> I'll shoot some new stuff on the flash. Can't get flash to run on my box here at home yet. but I'll do it at work once this lvl 3 goes away

<meatballhat> 1st Wed o' the month

<Vorian> hey!

<jgedeon> rhys your still in k-12 aren't you?

<arustyspork> Brady_M, its lvl 2 now

<rhys> jgedeon, less than 80 days.

<Vorian> I'm going to request more space for a planet

<Vorian> do any of you guys or gals blog?

<arustyspork> Brady_M, u better be open tomorrow im going nuts in my house :)

<meatballhat> Vorian: to linky to our main site, perhaps?

<Vorian> meatballhat, yep

<Brady_M> arustyspork: is it? well then I going to need to play catch up tomorrow. I leaving to ABQ on Friday. Say Happy B day for my dad's 60th

<meatballhat> I likey :)

<Vorian> I know anthony wanted me to cover that

<msak007> no i don't blog

<Vorian> It will have to be wordpress though

<Vorian> me thinks

<msak007> my life is not is not interesting enough to warrant a blog :)

<rhys> ooo. Brady_M in the fun and sun

<rhys> blogs...why bother.

<rhys> ill just come in and complain to you guys if i need something

<jgedeon> Thats no lie.

<jacobmp92> woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot

<arustyspork> Brady_M, cool

<jacobmp92> school closed

<msak007> mbn

<msak007> wish work could be closed so i don't feel bad callin off

<msak007> lol

<msak007> but i guess that's what i get for workin in a data center...24x7 means you don't close

<jacobmp92> heh

<Brady_M> msak007: been there done that. They will put cots down just to keep you there lol

<msak007> lol

<Vorian> jacobmp92, really! again?

<arustyspork> msak007, at least you dont work for odot

<jacobmp92> Vorian: yep, just announced

<msak007> yea that's true...i feel bad for those guys

<jacobmp92> this hits our 5 day quota

<jacobmp92> arustyspork: my dad works for odot, but as a manager

<msak007> they work nonstop to clean the roads and ppl give em crap for not cleanin them fast enough

<arustyspork> i know a few they say they just like all the overtime pay

<jacobmp92> so no having to plow :_p

<jgedeon> ODOT drivers are just looking at that overtime.

<jacobmp92> i dunno, if you are one who likes to drive, then odot might be a good job

<jgedeon> I live on a state route here in Portage county and I still can't see our road.

<Brady_M> When I worked at the AOL NOC, they had me pickup everyone needing to get to work, then volunteered me to pick up nurses to get them to hospitals. That was about 20 hour shift uhg! I got triple time though. nice paycheck

<hartleycharlene> Did you hear about the kid who got buried by a plow?

<msak007> no

<hartleycharlene> I guess he was playing near the road as a plow passed

<rhys> hartleycharlene, ha. sounds funny

<msak007> dude that's not funny if he got hurt

<arustyspork> jgedeon, ours has a lot of ice, im in union

<hartleycharlene> I think he was okay, just cold

<msak007> ok then it's funny

<msak007> :)

<jgedeon> arustyspork: yea heard from the MIL and she says that she is frozen in with about an inch of ice on her doors and windows.

<msak007> that would suck even more then getting splashed buy a puddle when a car drives by

<rhys> oh. MIL?

<arustyspork> ouch

<msak007> anyway guys i gotta go

<msak007> you all have a good nite

<arustyspork> nite

<Vorian> gn msak007

<jgedeon> night

<msak007> and be safe out there if you gotta drive

<msak007> later

<soham_> bye

<Vorian> cya soham_ :)

<soham_> well i am not going now

<soham_> srry

<Vorian> ok :P

<Vorian> wb meatballhat :)

<meatballhat> heehee ... network fun

<Brady_M> Vorian: ok having issues with fingerprint

<Vorian> use acid

<Vorian> j/k

<Vorian> IBM?

<Brady_M> Vorian: que? uhm with OpenPGP keys, trying ti digitally sign the conduct page

<Vorian> ah

<Vorian> you have to wait like 15 min

<Vorian> it takes a bit to cycle

<Brady_M> Vorian: ok, I'll wait it out :)

<Vorian> :)

<soham_> did it work

<Brady_M> soham_: yep done.

<soham_> good

<Brady_M> soham_: now just waiting on the confirmation of the key

<soham_> soham@soham-desktop:~$ gpg --send-key key-id

<soham_> gpg: "key-id" not a key ID: skipping

<soham_> soham@soham-desktop:~$

<soham_> ?

<soham_> can u help

<Brady_M> soham_: where it says "key-id" put in the key name . you can get that by typing in...

<Brady_M> gpg --fingerprint

<Brady_M> you see pub XXXX/thekeyhere

<Brady_M> then put in gpg --send-key XXXXXX

<soham_> ya

<rhys> what are you using pgp keys for?

<soham_> rsa

<rhys> ssh?

<soham_> no

<Brady_M> rhys: for the ubuntu ohio launchpad site. You have to digitally sign the code of conduct

<rhys> why?

<soham_> donno

<soham_> i am lost

<soham_> pub 2048R/0CD5BB7D 2007-02-15

<soham_> uid Soham Roy (I am great) <soham.roy@gmail.com>

<soham_> pub 1024D/AC9D1E56 2007-02-15

<soham_> uid Soham Roy (I am great) <soham.roy@gmail.com>

<soham_> sub 2048g/B6D450BA 2007-02-15

<soham_> soham@soham-desktop:~$

<Brady_M> soham_: no! don't do dat! that's bad

<soham_> then wat

<Brady_M> soham_: emm, think about it like you just publicly gave your personal info away

<stephen> cyall im off to washington dc

<stephen> woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot

<Brady_M> stephen: later

<soham_> lol

<soham_> wat should i do

<soham_> where is the key

<Brady_M> soham_: Anywho, the launchpad site. lessee here. Where's someone who's knowledgeable about this right now on line! I'm going to somthing wrong here!

* Brady_M Screams and cusses *Voraaaain! AHHKK!

<soham_> he is gone

<rrittenhouse> yeah hes out

<soham_> i will ask some one

<rhys> poor Brady_M

<rhys> go talk to shelly. she can make it better

<Brady_M> rhys: She's ingulfed in wow right now. :)

<rhys> .......brady, you do know where your internet connection

<Brady_M> rhys: When she's playing it's all gamehead. Like talking to someone with ADD

<rhys> ....im add. you do know where you internet connection is. unplug it

<rhys> unpluggin wow = valentines day goodies

<soham_> got it

<soham_> i am sending it

<Brady_M> rhys: yes yes. . Anywho soham. If you goto launchpad.net it gives you all the detail. Think of the place where everyone goes to stay on track, like the old netscape meeting calendar. Keeps groups informed on the hole project, also let you add your own 2 cents if you are apart of a specific project.

<soham_> ok

<soham_> i didn't know

<Brady_M> soham_: no worries, I'm green at this. Been awhile using this type of setup. (I own my own store, so the only one I need to workwith is the little elf in my head.) LOL

<soham_> LOL

<Brady_M> rhys: What are you doing tomorrow? expecting to come by? I hoping the weather plays well.

<rhys> i will

<rhys> i can drive in damn near anything

<rhys> yea

<Brady_M> rhys: doesn't that truck have rear wheel drive?

<Brady_M> rhys: prob doesn't matter, you prob got enough snow to weigh it down lol

<rhys> Brady_M, and i can drive...yea.

<rhys> BRADY!!! LINKAGE TO YOUR BLOG!

<rhys> about vista

<arustyspork> Brady_M, send me a link to ur vista rant plz

<rhys> sucking

<Brady_M> rhys: just saying rear wheel sucks. Chelle's vans like that. It's like pushing an elephant up a icy hill

<Brady_M> arustyspork: http://blog.adminremote.com

<arustyspork> Brady_M, thnx

<rhys> Brady_M, compred to front wheel drive, yes.

<rhys> but for me, i dont mind

<arustyspork> i have a really heavy front-whell i can go damn near anywhere :)

<soham_> i got the message

<Brady_M> arustyspork: this is a vid I made. It's already been copied all over the place

<Brady_M> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4508336341884243249&hl=en

<soham_> brad how can i decrypt

<soham_> it

<arustyspork> Brady_M, dialup dude dialup

<Brady_M> soham_: that's above me man, I'd shoot Vorian a PM message on the forums

<rhys> how do i ban in xchat? i cant get the /ignore syntax correct

<jacobmp92> rhys: you need to be a chanop to ban, do you mean just to ignore a specific user?

<rhys> ignore a user. i know what ops do

<jacobmp92> rhys: i looked around in xchat, but i cant really find anything on it. it might be client-specific, because i can do it in gaim

<rrittenhouse> Vorian, Are you still running feisty?

<Vorian> rrittenhouse, yepper

<rrittenhouse> How did you do it?

<rrittenhouse> er install it*

<Vorian> hack it

<rrittenhouse> CD or upgrade?

<Vorian> upgrade

<rrittenhouse> eh? :P

<rrittenhouse> oh ok

<rrittenhouse> im tempted haha

<rrittenhouse> my luck itll all go to hell

<Vorian> i did a fresh install of edgy first

<Vorian> then change sources to feisty

<Vorian> then dist-upgrade

<Vorian> *not official method of upgrading*

<Vorian> just ask PWill

<rrittenhouse> ah

<rrittenhouse> Ive had problems doing that in the past

<rrittenhouse> well upgrading

<rrittenhouse> using update-manger -d or whatever

<rhys> hmmmm

<rhys> gentoooo

<rrittenhouse> gayneesss

<rrittenhouse> oh did i say that?

<rrittenhouse> oh well at least your not suggesting windows :P

<PWill> Saw my name

<PWill> Upgrading to Feisty, eh?

<rrittenhouse> Idk it was a thought but i might just wait

<PWill> What kind of motherboard/network card/video card do you have

<rrittenhouse> intel motherboard with integrated nic (newer board), and an nvidia card

<rrittenhouse> hoping you didnt want specifics just yet i have to look them up ;)

<PWill> That sounds good

<PWill> 2.6.20 should support what you have

<rrittenhouse> i havent had problems yet with linux on this pc

<rrittenhouse> cool ok.

<rrittenhouse> i just use IDE no SATA or anything

<PWill> Be sure to install linux-restricted-modules after you upgrade though

<PWill> Since you have the NVidia card

<rrittenhouse> how would you recommend me upgrade?

* Brady_M peeks up hu what?

<Brady_M> rrittenhouse: I did the suggested upgrade Vorain mentioned. It does work, though they don't suggest it because of left over dependencies that don't get removed, but if you got the disk space, do it.

<rrittenhouse> so it makes a mess eh?

<rrittenhouse> Ive had UI problems when upgrading to edgy (on my laptop)

<rrittenhouse> i upgraded to edgy from the previous and it didint have the new scrollbars and just weird stuff

<Brady_M> rrittenhouse: I watched a video with Shuttleworth on it and said an example was open office, It may leave the packages on the drive. I didn't see that myself, but nothings like a clean install.

<rrittenhouse> yeah.

<Brady_M> rrittenhouse: I ran it from one of the other tty screen ports so nothing didn't get locked up.

<Brady_M> ah man! the windchill advisory jst moved up to 5:45 am tonight grrr!

<Brady_M> err tomrrow

<rrittenhouse> teehee

<rrittenhouse> what time does your shop open?

<Brady_M> rrittenhouse: 11 am, but get in at 10:30 to turn on all the PC's grab the mail, etc

<rrittenhouse> ah cool

<rrittenhouse> we need to have a count on how many times vorian quits in a day

<rrittenhouse> ;)

<bodhizazen> jacobmp92: Thanks for all your help :)

<jacobmp92> ah, hi bodhizazen, no prob

<jacobmp92> i'm sending over a list of some helpful irc commands :)

<bodhizazen> Thanks, I'll look ti over.

<bodhizazen> glad to know I'm not the only onw who learns by breaking :D

<jacobmp92> hehe

<bodhizazen> I have managed to break my launchpad login 5 times now :O

<jacobmp92> nice ;)

<bodhizazen> I am afraid I am listed all over the place on that thing ...

<jacobmp92> heh, who knows

<bodhizazen> I might have to fix that ???

<jacobmp92> maybe

<jacobmp92> wow, a lot of dropped connections tonight :-P

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<rrittenhouse> if i wasnt on crutches and there wasnt 6" of snow outside i would go to the local library and talk to the lady about cds

<rrittenhouse> and if possible to put things in the catalog

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<meatballhat> trumpintappist: hello!

<trumpintappist> hi

<meatballhat> there isn't much going on in here right now ... look at the channel topic for meeting info :)

<trumpintappist> channel topic?

<meatballhat> the bunch of text that spat out when you joined .. plus it's at the top of your window in Xchat

<meatballhat> trumpintappist: hover over the white text box just below the Toolbar

<trumpintappist> and

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme, rrittenhouse : let's talk CDs for a minute??

<rrittenhouse> please :)

<meatballhat> I was supposed to email theidiotthatisme... didn't do that yet...

<meatballhat> the three of us should get together ...

<meatballhat> especially because we're all in NE Ohio

<theidiotthatisme> Hi meatballhat

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: hallooo!

<theidiotthatisme> Sorry guys I was playing a game

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: no email from me yet ... I'm a lame-o

<rrittenhouse> i wish i could. Unfortunately I don't have a license or car =x

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: you, me, and rrittenhouse need to get this CD distro stuff hashed out

<theidiotthatisme> rrittenhouse: Neither do I. Never had time when in school

<rrittenhouse> yeah

<rrittenhouse> theidiotthatisme, where are you located again?

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: we can come to you ... or I can pick you both up :P

<rrittenhouse> haha

<theidiotthatisme> Boardman

<rrittenhouse> I think canton would be a good place to go

<meatballhat> we can get a real-deal "Sprint" scheduled :D

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: agreed ... I can pick up theidiotthatisme and head your way

<rrittenhouse> canton is like 45 mins north of here though so it would be backtracking to go back to canton.

<rrittenhouse> I mean whatever you all wanna do

<meatballhat> hm... rrittenhouse is there any way for you to get yourself northward?

<rrittenhouse> for the day?

<meatballhat> if we're to do this right, ideally :)

<meatballhat> on a Sat or Sun?

<rrittenhouse> I work every other friday, sat, sun

<theidiotthatisme> Absolutely cant on Saturday :-(

<rrittenhouse> and i work this weekend so you could go off of that

<theidiotthatisme> Sorry guys

<rrittenhouse> hmm

<meatballhat> this weekend is already out :( ...me gots plans

<rrittenhouse> im on crutches this week

<rrittenhouse> haha

<meatballhat> week from sunday??

<rrittenhouse> well first off what do we need to do

<meatballhat> brainstorm everything

<rrittenhouse> me getting a ride to anywhere but work is a nail biter just wondering how we could go about this

<rrittenhouse> hmm ok

<meatballhat> faster than email and IRC will allow

<rrittenhouse> yeah true

<meatballhat> and all in one go, like how a sprint is supposed to work :)

<rrittenhouse> haha

<rrittenhouse> Well I have a friend from zanesville thats a full time ubuntu user

<theidiotthatisme> *eep* I'm a bad runner all the way around lol

<rrittenhouse> he might just come up for it

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: heehee ... I only ever did distance, so I'm SOL, too

<theidiotthatisme> I never did anything. Never even finished the mile when I was back in high school

<rrittenhouse> I just doubt I could talk him into joining the group.. im not sure how much he would be into it. But im betting he would like to meet up somewhere

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: that'd be good ... but we should try to keep it small :)

<rrittenhouse> dang i did that and i was a fat kid.

<rrittenhouse> yep i understand

<rrittenhouse> but it may be the only way on my part in getting up there...

<rrittenhouse> Assuming were still talking canton? or how far north

<meatballhat> so is Sunday the 25th a plausible *day* assuming we can figure out the travel?

<theidiotthatisme> Sounds good

<rrittenhouse> i checked with my assistant and she says im free? :P

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: I'm actually making the assumption that *I* don't have plans :P

<meatballhat> ugh ...

<meatballhat> okay ... so until then, we need to get our act together with exactly what it is we want to say to OPLIN and OHIONET

<rrittenhouse> yeah

<meatballhat> and what materials need to be made to supplement the CDs

<meatballhat> ...because right now I've got 30 CDs in red DVD cases with no additional materials :P

<rrittenhouse> When I think about it I picture a cardbord stand holding booklets with cds in them (but thats kinda far out there to have cardboard displays and all that)

<rrittenhouse> (in relation to other places besides libraries)

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: so you're thinking CD distribution for end users to take? I was talking about the copies intended for circulation :)

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: Burned or ones sent to you?

<rrittenhouse> sorry i got the two mixed up :-D

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: the ones in the DVD cases are Official, printed CDs :)

<rrittenhouse> but thats what i think about when end users to take up from computer shops or book stores etc

<rrittenhouse> But as for libraries all we can really do is make some kind of document to go along with it (a booklet maybe)?

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: exactly ... that's for another phase, I think ... what with computer shops, book stores

<meatballhat> a booklet is all we're shooting for

<rrittenhouse> yeah thats next im sure its just something im interested in doing too

<meatballhat> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-us-ohio-f2f/+spec/ohio-cd-materials

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: I'm right there with ye :D

<rrittenhouse> :)

<rrittenhouse> even though theres a mom and pop restraunt here, two bars and a gas station

<rrittenhouse> oh and theres a church and a library

<rrittenhouse> so not TOO much to choose from in my actual town

<meatballhat> the CDs in DVD cases with booklets will be sent to anyone who wants 'em who responds to the mailings we send to the OPLIN and OHIONET lists...

<meatballhat> hehe :)

<meatballhat> we're distributing by mail, mostly ... and I'll be doing the mailing for this first batch :)

<rrittenhouse> I'm not familiar with OPLIN or OHIONET..ive heard of OPLIN way back when..when i used to access the internet at the library

<rrittenhouse> Have you communicated with anybody from OPLIN or OHIONET ?

<meatballhat> yes

<rrittenhouse> What kind of response have you had?

<meatballhat> very positive response :)

<rrittenhouse> good

<meatballhat> OPLIN's chairman already uses Ubuntu at home ;-)

<rrittenhouse> nice!

<rrittenhouse> I remember reading that at the meeting ;)

<rrittenhouse> Do they have control over what goes into libraries in ohio?

<theidiotthatisme> My last request for shipit was not approved :-(

<meatballhat> they make recommendations and provide classes

<rrittenhouse> ive used shipit before has it changed in how hard it is to use?

<meatballhat> they are widely regarded as reliable sources of information

<rrittenhouse> or who gets approved

<rrittenhouse> I ordered like 30 cds so i could hand them all out

<theidiotthatisme> I ordered 15 before and it didn't get approved :-( I just reordered ten, hopefully we'll see

<meatballhat> I'm still waiting to see about my current request ... :) .... much of the ShipIt problems are supposed to be solved in the next 9 months or so

<rrittenhouse> dang.

<meatballhat> okay, so theidiotthatisme is already working on classroom stuff and lightscribe stuff, right?

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: where would you like to contribute?

<meatballhat> I'm fussing around with design stuff these days mostly

<theidiotthatisme> As soon as I can find my CD's again lol I move, found my DVD's but not my CD's for lightscribe

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: heehee

<theidiotthatisme> For this month while I get situated back I would like to help more with the Library stuff since it's an important contribution that can be achieved sooner and help our standing

<theidiotthatisme> However I will still work on creating new materials

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: excellent

<rrittenhouse> What I pictured was (when i get better and on my feet?) was to contact libraries and try to get ubuntu cd's in the libraries.. then after we get all that started move on to putting them elsewhere

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: so would you be looking to help compile something of a contact list?

<rrittenhouse> But i was wondering is there an easier way to get them into libraries without going to every single one...

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: that's exactly what we're doing via OPLIN and OHIONET

<rrittenhouse> Ok ok.

<rrittenhouse> Thats where I was getting slightly confused

<meatballhat> library admins read their mailing lists :)

<rrittenhouse> oooh :-D

<rrittenhouse> great then

<theidiotthatisme> What I think we need

<rrittenhouse> I would like to help out on the booklet too

<theidiotthatisme> Is the material to be included in the DVD cases

<theidiotthatisme> the booklet

<meatballhat> we make an offer via their mailing lists and we're practically guaranteed we won't end up in the junk folder :)

<meatballhat> right now the booklet needs content :D

<theidiotthatisme> And a draft of a document (or email) of what it is, how it benefits the libraries, and how it benefits the community and the FOSS community

<meatballhat> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam/CDdistribution/Workbench

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: exactly ... something they can read once it arrives at their doorstep

<theidiotthatisme> Would scribus or openoffice.org work for the booklet?

<meatballhat> scribus is what I've started in

<theidiotthatisme> Sounds good

<meatballhat> OOo is a little too lightweight :)

<theidiotthatisme> One more question, who is supplying the CD's if they do decide to adopt Ubuntu into the catalog? I'm afraid I dont quite have that many CD's lol will ShipIt help (in time)?

<meatballhat> I've got 30 for starters :)

<theidiotthatisme> Are distributing those before or after we contact Oplin and OhioNet?

<meatballhat> if we run outta those, I'll be thrilled :D

<meatballhat> after

<theidiotthatisme> Okay good :-)

<meatballhat> we make the offer via OPLIN and OHIONET mailing lists

<meatballhat> then send to interested parties via snail mail

<meatballhat> we are avoiding the Trash at all costs :)

<theidiotthatisme> And hopefully the head guy will ask and like what he sees ;)

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: precisely :)

<meatballhat> we need to be seen as a credible source of information and such so that we aren't categorized along with all the other for-profit entities that prey on libraries

<theidiotthatisme> Understandable

<rrittenhouse> back sorry had to figure up bills real quick

<rrittenhouse> haha.

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: if you're gonna start workin in Scribus, that'll give me a chance to get back to work on the DIY marketing site ...

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: if so, my next step was to mail on the ubuntu-art list to get the source files for the 6.06 wallet

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: do you feel comfortable working on the content of the booklet?

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: I have never used Scribus, but if you send me the file you were working on I can try and come up with something, no gaurantees on quality though

<theidiotthatisme> I was actually just starting to work on a draft on the email

<rrittenhouse> meatballhat, not as comfortable as I should be but I could be a brainstormer.

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: all I have is mostly worthless :P .... I'll send it to you tomorrow morn

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: brainstormin' is what we need right now, so go for it! :D

<rrittenhouse> I'm just not comfortable with my english "skills" or lack there of. So final editing would be a must haha.

<rrittenhouse> :)

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: were you seriously about to email ubuntu-art?? :P

<rrittenhouse> Where should this brainstorming take place

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: I will write up a document in OpenOffice.org (like a FAQ, who we are, what is Ubuntu, what we think would benefit the libraries, talk about the classes, etc.) that can be attached

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: no worries .. my wife Sarah is a proofreading queen ;-)

<rrittenhouse> nice

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: sounds great!

<theidiotthatisme> theidiotthatisme: No, never emailed them

<rrittenhouse> I guess I could also get my mother in law to maybe read stuff to shes an english major....

<rrittenhouse> i always forget that :P

<rrittenhouse> so yeah that should be covered.

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: hehe ... sorry ... they're good peeps ... I've never posted to the list but I read it regularly :)

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: You guys can edit anything, or pull from it for the email. I think we should let you send the actual email since you have already talked to the head guy

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: outlining will be a great help at this point :)

<rrittenhouse> yeah really.

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: I think we're talking about two different things :P

<rrittenhouse> you must have done something right so keep doing it ;)

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: I mean the OhioNet and those lists

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: we need the source files for the CD wallet from the ubuntu-art peeps :)

<meatballhat> I'll take care of the email to OPLIN and OHIONET :D

<rrittenhouse> Yeah meatballhat were just talking about the booklet hes just saying in the communication aspect you should be the person to do it since you have already talked with them. (thats what I got from it!)

<rrittenhouse> yeah.

<meatballhat> no worries ... I can do the letter, too, if you want :)

<meatballhat> but for the booklet, I really need the help of more tech-minded members ... I'm severely lacking in knowledge of more basal stuff like hardware :)

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: pm

<rrittenhouse> Ive never used any desktop publishing software (as far as i know) but I did install scribus to check it out

<meatballhat> as far as the content of the booklet is concerned, it's okay if we lift stuff from ubuntu.com, help.ubuntu.com, etc... we'll get approval for everything before it gets printed

<theidiotthatisme> rrittenhouse: I used Microsoft Publisher about 5 years ago for a week. That's about it lol

<rrittenhouse> haha

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: Is that stuff copyrighted or creative license?

<meatballhat> it should be CC ... but we'll ask all the same as we'll be representing Ubuntu

<rrittenhouse> shouldnt we look and see how they package these things too

<rrittenhouse> I mean is the booklet going to fit right into the cd cast

<rrittenhouse> case**

<rrittenhouse> Or alongside it (being bigger than the CD case) etc

<theidiotthatisme> rrittenhouse: We'll design it in Scribus to fit that particular size

<meatballhat> there are templates available online for the dimensions :)

<theidiotthatisme> It will be going into DVD cases, so it's slightly bigger

<rrittenhouse> oh ok

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: what I send you tomorrow will show that :)

<theidiotthatisme> thank you meatballhat:

<meatballhat> the dimensions are weird ... 8 by 6.25 or something :P

<meatballhat> that's not right .... 8 by 5.25 :)

<meatballhat> whatever :P

<rrittenhouse> oh the normal dvd cases...

<rrittenhouse> durr

<rrittenhouse> Ok i got ya now

<meatballhat> yup! :D

<rrittenhouse> thats a good thought :)

<meatballhat> I was able to get red ones pretty cheap

<meatballhat> they look reeeal good

<rrittenhouse> haha cool

<rrittenhouse> We also need to discuss our limits of what content we should have in the booklet as well as the total length of it

<meatballhat> we'll need to find tan ones for Edgy :P .... and yellow for Dapper 64-bit

<rrittenhouse> ah hmm

<rrittenhouse> keeping the libraries up to date should be fun too

<rrittenhouse> haha

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: 8 pages, two sheets folded ... so 7 + cover

<rrittenhouse> dang someones got it figured out dont they?

<meatballhat> did that make sense?? :P

<rrittenhouse> :-D

<rrittenhouse> wait no

<rrittenhouse> front and back?

<rrittenhouse> well yeah :P nm

<meatballhat> yes ...

<meatballhat> :D

<theidiotthatisme> two sheets folded?

<theidiotthatisme> Wow it's been so long since I created one of these lol

<rrittenhouse> yeah take two sheet of paper landscape and fold them

<meatballhat> two sheets of 8 x 10.5

<theidiotthatisme> which is printer paper

<theidiotthatisme> well printer size

<meatballhat> or whatever the actual dimensions are :P ... don't trust me on that

<theidiotthatisme> So I should design for normal size, but cut it in half longways so when it prints it can be folded?

<meatballhat> start with 8.5 x 11, then cut off margins for full color bleed

<meatballhat> we'll get them Pro-printed once we get it finished

<theidiotthatisme> Sounds good

<meatballhat> the design, that is :D

<theidiotthatisme> I'll just try for a rough draft of content to include :-) I'll let a more professional person handle the details lol

<meatballhat> on glossy stock, no less :P

<meatballhat> sounds great :D (YAY!!!)

<rrittenhouse> haha

<rrittenhouse> how much does this pro printed stuff cost and does it come out of our pockets?

<rrittenhouse> Heck while were at it lets make a book and self publish it on lulu to put in libraries LOL :-D

<rrittenhouse> now that would be fun

<theidiotthatisme> lol

<theidiotthatisme> We already have Ubuntu Unleashed, The Official Ubuntu Book, and Ubuntu Hacks :-P

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: no kiddin! :D ... "Ubuntu for Ohioans"

<rrittenhouse> :-D

<rrittenhouse> there ya go!

<rrittenhouse> hahah

<meatballhat> okay... so who'l workin' on what? :)

<meatballhat> who's ... sorrp

<meatballhat> LOL

<rrittenhouse> ermm

<theidiotthatisme> Wow

<meatballhat> sorry

<theidiotthatisme> Little too much to drink there? ;)

<meatballhat> damn QWERTY hands no likey Dvorak

<meatballhat> bad hands! bad!!!

<rrittenhouse> haha i switched BACK to qwerty

<theidiotthatisme> never used anything but qwerty

<theidiotthatisme> I dont even know what dvorak is lol

<meatballhat> heehee ... I'm telling myself it'll be better for my Python-learnin' aspirations :D

<meatballhat> all it seems to have done is make me suck at QWERTY :D

<meatballhat> okay ... so who do what?

<rrittenhouse> haha

<theidiotthatisme> I'll be hungry :-)

<theidiotthatisme> lol

<theidiotthatisme> I'll come up with some content for the booklet, I cant gaurantee anything on design though because I am a really bad artist

<meatballhat> me do release email to OPLIN & OHIONET ... and help with design ;-)

<theidiotthatisme> And I'll work on an .odt attachment with more detail, that can also be used for other distribution places in the future if they have any more questions (so people can take it with them when asking, just in case)

<meatballhat> should the .odt attachment mirror much of what is said in the booklet?

<meatballhat> in condensed form, that is?

<rrittenhouse> I can work on possible content for the manual too

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: absolutely ... on the wiki s'il vous plait ?

<meatballhat> :D

<rrittenhouse> do what

<meatballhat> do all brainstormin' on the wiki, please? :D

<meatballhat> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam/CDdistribution/Workbench

<rrittenhouse> haha ok :)

<meatballhat> wheee!

<rrittenhouse> ive never used this wiki...

<rrittenhouse> i know it cant be that hard i was just saying ;)

<meatballhat> bother either me or Adam Heckler :)

<meatballhat> we're the supposed Wiki Team ;-)

<meatballhat> rrittenhouse: here's a big hint: under the "More Actions:" selection box, select "Show Raw Text" to well... you know ;-)

<meatballhat> it's a little less invasive than Editing just to see markup

<theidiotthatisme> sorry guys makin food

* meatballhat 's stomach grumbles

<rrittenhouse> ok

<rrittenhouse> mm

<theidiotthatisme> I haven't eaten in two days except cereal lol

<meatballhat> I really ought to get back to work now :)

<meatballhat> ugh

<theidiotthatisme> and meatballhat: The .odt for the attachment to the email will not mirror the booklet (it wont be informational to the end user, but to the library, with different goals and more indepth information on how this affects them)

<theidiotthatisme> Unless you wanted to simply add all that into the email, which I wasn't sure of

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: no no ... you're on the right track ... the library admin is definitely a different audience :)

<theidiotthatisme> (For example, in the email will be who we are, what Ubuntu is, and a quick glimpse on how it can help them. In the attached .odt can be more extensive information on the community, the Ubuntu OS, more indepth ideas on how it can help them, and the community)

<meatballhat> I'd actually prefer that the email not have an attachment but instead links to a dedicated page on our site :)

<meatballhat> but yes, you're totally on the right track :)

<rrittenhouse> meatballhat, something I forgot to ask.. what specific cd are we putting out?

<rrittenhouse> is it cd or DVD

<theidiotthatisme> Okay, that sounds correct

<meatballhat> I prefer dynamic to static content :) .... the website can be changed more readily than an email attachment

<meatballhat> 6.06 for now ...

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat: Would you set up a page for me to edit on the Wiki?

<theidiotthatisme> and I will fill it out and work on it today :-)

<meatballhat> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam/CDdistribution/Workbench <-- that's not good enough for ye?? :D

<theidiotthatisme> rrittenhouse: The format will be 6.06 CD in a DVD case

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: precisely

<theidiotthatisme> Is that the link you would like to send them?

<meatballhat> no... sorry, I misunderstood

<meatballhat> let's do all editing of that page in the wiki, but then publish on ohio.ubuntu-us.org

<meatballhat> brb...

<rrittenhouse> ok

<theidiotthatisme> ok

<theidiotthatisme> Meatballhat: I will probably end up formatting to Wiki syntax. When it's time will you switch it for the website?

<rrittenhouse> theidiotthatisme, why 6.0.6 ?

<theidiotthatisme> For right now, it's the only printed CD's we have avaiable without reproducing more. It's also the only version shipped for free by ShipIt since it's LTS

<theidiotthatisme> meatballhat currently has 30 6.06 cd's we can get started with :-)

<rrittenhouse> ok

<rrittenhouse> I have a few 5.10 cds haha.. way too old...

<rrittenhouse> im weary on putting dapper out there but its the best we can do

<theidiotthatisme> I've only got one 6.06 PC and one 6.06 mac

<theidiotthatisme> Why is it that you're weary of putting Dapper out?

<rrittenhouse> idk im just always a fan of the latest but i know the latest isnt always best for everyone

<rrittenhouse> Better than breezy

<theidiotthatisme> rrittenhouse: I'm the same way, I like to have the latest. But at the same time, I always keep an OS on my computer (and for everyone else I install it for) that they dont have to worry about updating often, since it's LTS it will be supported for quite a bit without them having to upgrade often

<rrittenhouse> i guess i never did get the LTS part :) long term support haha.

<theidiotthatisme> And thanks to Backports, they'll have updated software for quite a period of time, with a stable OS

<rrittenhouse> what kind of support does that actually include?

<rrittenhouse> true..

<rrittenhouse> and I figure if they want the latest and greatest they can always do it themselves once they learn whats going on

<theidiotthatisme> LTS? I believe backports, more time spent on polish and stability, and official Canonical support if someone needs it for a business

<theidiotthatisme> That's true too :-)

<rrittenhouse> so as long as we can get them on the train..

<theidiotthatisme> So far Dapper is my favorite release

<theidiotthatisme> And I have high hopes for Fiesty +1 (my laptop cant handle any of that eye candy stuff so a lot of the video binary stuff that's been made a fuss over doesn't affect me too much)

<theidiotthatisme> Although upstart seems to work pretty good

<rrittenhouse> i (was) using beryl on here before i went to feisty last night and i just havent messed with it as i dont care

* meatballhat catches up reading backlog :)

<rrittenhouse> oh upstart is the biggest part i would like to be on these cds... best thing since sliced bread i tel ya

<theidiotthatisme> I'm sure we'll upgrade to both Dapper and Fiesty once Fiesty is released (if we get approved, we'll get a lot of Fiesty CD's we can then turn around and give to libraries to update their catalog) so we'll have both LTS and the latest

<rrittenhouse> true

<meatballhat> yes... we will focus on the LTS releases first and foremost ... and non-LTS releases will get done *if* we're able :)

<theidiotthatisme> and since Fiesty + 1 is LTS, we can pull out dapper and Fiesty and just distribute that version until Fiesty + 2 is released, and then we can go back to releasing both to the libraries

<meatballhat> theidiotthatisme: sounds like a plan to me :D

<rrittenhouse> stupid question whats feisty + 1 and feisty + 2

<rrittenhouse> to make sure were on the right track

<theidiotthatisme> Fiesty +1 is the release right after Fiesty

<meatballhat> has it been said yet that feisty +1 will be LTS?