<Zuph> I am the only person in the world who can go to the grocery store, buy ingredients and end up with a more expensive meal with less food than just going out and buying it at a restaurant.
<comfurtn> what did you make?
<Zuph> Fajitas!
<comfurtn> Zuph: fajitas sound good.... i must be hungry.
<Zuph> I'm not any more
<Zuph> Though I am thirsty.
<montgoej> sup etank?
<montgoej> ok, I'm back
<etank> nada
<etank> hows it going
<montgoej> I gave my STLP teacher and district Tech coordinator a link to the Ubuntu forums and I talked him into unblocking the site so I can check it at school now!
<etank> cool
<montgoej> the district tech guy has been using Linux for about 2 years so he was more than happy to unblock ubuntuforums.org for me
<montgoej> he's really interested in the LoCo too
<etank> that sounds good
<montgoej> he seems pretty cool, I'd never met him before now but he's used Ubuntu, Edubuntu, knoppix and OpenSuse, which he uses on his home PC
<montgoej> and apparently they've got boxes with Linux setup at the board office or something...selfish people making me use Winblows all day...
<etank> venomous: whats up
<venomous> wb etank
<etank> I was trying the tor thing but the lag was around 50 seconds
<etank> and clinbing
<venomous> waiting on cisco to call me back. got a lwap that i need to revert back to autonomous. can't get it to accept a static ip
<etank> maybe there is a setting or something to make it less
<montgoej> wow...Tor is really laggy today...the little lag bar in xchat is going crazy
<venomous> hasn't been bad for me...averaging about 5sec
<etank> so you tor as weel
<etank> well
<etank> mine is suckin bad
<etank> i had to quit and reconnect without it
<etank> have you talked to bkingx today
<montgoej> which Tor service do you use?
<montgoej> the password authed one or the normal
<etank> I use the hidden service
<etank> passwd auth
<venomous> just hit a peak of 30sec
<etank> i cant work like that
<venomous> got about 10 lines of chat with him, but not much more. said you had moved the site files over to his vm
<etank> yeah we did
<etank> but he runs iis sites to so he has to find a way to set up port forwarding to get to all of his sites
<venomous> quit iis!
<etank> thats what i was thinking
<|{evin> mod_proxy/
<etank> he wants to use some java app to route the traffic to the right server
<etank> he isnt that good with linux yet
<|{evin> ProxyPath / ProxyPathReverse
<|{evin> it be all good
<Stash> ok...this is montgoej...but I'm using an alternate nick..
<Stash> it still thinks montgoej is logged in
<|{evin> montgoej, IS still logged in :)
<Stash> I disconnected
<Stash> not anymore
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<|{evin> he's dead, Jim
<montgoej> finally back
<montgoej> oh yeah, my request for 30 CDs got approved today
<montgoej> how many others ordered CDs?
* Zuph raises his hand
<venomous> finally gonna get off my duff and order the cd's. what's the link?
<montgoej> shipit.ubuntu.com
<venomous> tx
<Zuph> So, it turns out I have, by proxy, converted like 3 people to Linux without knowing it.
<venomous> only letting me select 10 pc editions. how did you guys get 30+?
<venomous> do it 3x?
<Zuph> There was a radio button for 30
<venomous> never mind...special request for more.
<montgoej> I made a special request
<montgoej> 20 pc, 5 powerpc, 5 64 bit
<Zuph> or maybe I was wrong
<Zuph> I dunno
<Zuph> I ordered some CDs, anyway
<venomous> alright, just ordered 30 pc...5 ppc...and 5 64 bit. we'll see how it goes. is it really taking 10 weeks to ship?
<montgoej> I got some a while back, just a few, and it only took like 3 or 4 weeks
<Zuph> I guess this is for etank more than anyone, but are we planning on doing and installfest at any point before the feisty release party?
<venomous> won't matter the time frame...just wondering. most of the students i have this semester are little more evolved than rocks. they wouldn't care/know that anything other than windows exists anyway
<etank> i missed some stuff while i was working on networking issues
<etank> what are we talking about?
<Zuph> CDs
<Zuph> Mostly
<etank> what about them?
<Zuph> how long it takes to get them
<etank> it says about 4 to 6 weeks
<etank> i think i got my order of 30 in about 2.5 to 3 weeks
<etank> venomous: go to http://74.140.129.0
<venomous> there
<etank> what do you think?
<venomous> not bad...give me a minute. ky might actually start playing..in addition to configure a cisco ap, in addition to configuring a snort box, in addition to everything else!!
<etank> Zuph: we can actually do the installfest and the fiesty release party at the same time
<etank> im good with anything really
<venomous> got some grammatical errors on the index page
<etank> there was talk about doing a dry run installfest with just the team members
<Zuph> That would work too
<etank> venomous: why am i not suprised
<venomous> probably the same reason i'm not either!!
<venomous> remember....i'm a bastard!
<venomous> where was bkingx wanting to put the horse logo?
<etank> right where the ubuntu one is
<Zuph> I think we should go with a logo that incorperates the ubuntu logo rather than replaces it.
<etank> i wish he was online tonight so we could actually work on this thing
<montgoej> well, I gotta head out, see you guys later
<venomous> later montgoej !
<venomous> bkingx is good with graphics. what if he could do some transparency thing with the horse in the background
<etank> i have a few
<etank> take a look now
<etank> i have 5 different looks
<etank> really 6
<venomous> horse is too small. easy to overlook
<etank> now
<venomous> hang on... ky down by 3...30 sec to go
<etank> i forgot they were even playing
<venomous> down by 5...16 sec to play. do not think they'll pull it off
<etank> what channel
<venomous> espn...28
<venomous> the refresh of the page looks better. horse is more prominent
<etank> how about now
<etank> the wording under is different
<venomous> game over. they can't score 4+ with <4 sec to go.
<etank> they can tie it up though
<venomous> what's that saying about "monkeys flying out of a butt??"....
<etank> |{evin: do you know where we can find docs on setting up the proxy stuff that you mentioned
<etank> how does that banner look venomous
<venomous> refresh shows no change that i notice
<etank> its in the wording under the ubuntu-ky
<etank> the last said ubuntu-kentucky.org
<etank> how about that one
<venomous> that seems alright since i'm not noticing a significant difference
<venomous> after refresh...go to previous. larger font detracts from icon
<etank> ok one more time
<etank> i dont like this last one as much
<venomous> ugh!! no! on choice three.
<etank> too spread out
<etank> so this one then
<etank> refresh
<venomous> of the choices...better
<etank> is it best?
<venomous> of the three...yes
<etank> do you have any suggestions?
<etank> i mean an different suggestions
<etank> there he is
<bkingx> Howdy!!
<etank> bkingx: did you find a way to forward 80 to all of your sites?
<bkingx> Finally got settled in for the night.
<bkingx> Yeah...I'm gonna use the old virtual redirect from apache
<bkingx> I am working on that right now.
<bkingx> I would like to find a GUI ;) app that can run on the server.
<etank> bkingx: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_proxy.html
<|{evin> proxypath/proxypathreverse, ftw
<|{evin> No need to expose IIS directly to the big bad entarwebs
<etank> |{evin: do you have a good example of how to set it up correctly?
<etank> something quick and easy
<|{evin> hmm
<bkingx> Preferably on linux
<|{evin> duh
<bkingx> right, etank ?
<etank> yup
<etank> have you changed your router config bkingx
<|{evin> <Location /monitor>
<|{evin> ProxyPass http://endor/nagios2
<|{evin> ProxyPassReverse http://endor/nagios2
<|{evin> </Location>
<bkingx> To what?
<bkingx> 8080?
<etank> 22
<etank> |{evin: cool
<|{evin> www.buley.org is one machine
<|{evin> but www.buley.org/monitor is actually a different machine
<etank> |{evin: what if you have many seperate dns names registered
<|{evin> "endor" has no natting through the firewall
<|{evin> in the virtual host for the site that's on another machine, do the same thing, except location would be /
<bkingx> etank, 22 is to the KY server we worked on earlier.
<|{evin> <Virtual Host www.something.com>
<|{evin> servername www.something.com
<|{evin> <location />
<|{evin> proxypass http://internal.machine.name
<|{evin> proxypassreverse http://internal.machine.name
<|{evin> </location>
<bkingx> This is what i found: http://doc.m0n0.ch/handbook/thirdparty-apache-virtualhosts.html
<|{evin> </Virtual>
<|{evin> that works, but only if you have all the ports open and pointed to the right place
<|{evin> using proxypass only requires port 80 open to the apache server
<etank> nice
<etank> so we can set an apache server to accept 80 through the firewall and then use this kind of setup to forward intermal
<etank> internal
<etank> is that right?
<|{evin> <VirtualHost 192.168.1.12>
<|{evin> UseCanonicalName off
<|{evin> ServerName www.example.net
<|{evin> <Location />
<|{evin> Proxypass http://192.168.something.else
<|{evin> ProxyPassReverse http://192.168.something.else
<|{evin> </location>
<|{evin> </VirtualHost>
<venomous> gentlemen....punching out. live long and prosper. see you on the other side!
<etank> |{evin: does using this require mod_proxy?
<|{evin> yeha
<etank> ok
<|{evin> libapache2-mod-proxy-html - Apache2 filter module for HTML links rewriting
<etank> going to try that in a few
<|{evin> apache is some powerful shit
<etank> no kidding
<Zuph> Anything that comes out of foundation is amazing.
<bkingx> To change a menu item to run sudo and prompt for a password, what is the prefix to the command?
<bkingx> Was it gk?
<Zuph> gksu
<bkingx> That was it!! Thanks!
<|{evin> kdesu
<|{evin> :P
<bkingx> LOL!
<bkingx> What happened to etank ?
<bkingx> Anyone using dd-wrt?
<comfurtn> yes
<bkingx> DHCP is working fine for me.
<bkingx> Is there a DNS Server section?
<comfurtn> yup
<bkingx> Tell me....tell me!!
<bkingx> Where dd-wrt acts as an internal DNS server?
<comfurtn> bkingx: oh wait, i might have been thinking of ddns.
<bkingx> Yeah....and DNSmasq
<bkingx> etank_, must be having problems at the house.
<comfurtn> there's a "Local DNS" option.
<comfurtn> is that what you're looking for?
<bkingx> Not sure...what tab is it under?
<comfurtn> Administration>Services
<comfurtn> just under DNSMasq
<bkingx> OK...that's what I was thinking too.
<bkingx> Now...what is the syntax to add a record?
<comfurtn> Now that I don't know.
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<bkingx> What it the world is going on over there, etank ?
<bkingx> Not pay the cable bill?
<etank> something like that
<bkingx> LOL
<montgoej> just remember, don't use your "neighbor who forgot about a WEP key"s wireless :)...like I've obviously never done
<comfurtn> montgoej: of course not, we all know better than that.
<comfurtn> so, any plans for the meeting thursday?
<Zuph> Maybe trying to schedule a LoCo release party/install fest dry run?
<etank> Im going to send out something on the mailing list tomorrow.
<etank> send me some ideas and i will include them for the meeting
<bkingx> OK etank , We can do the virtual stuff on the KY web server.
<etank> or just send something to the mailing list
<bkingx> I think I can do DNS on the router. Of course, it already does dhcp
<Zuph> Why not just get an old PC with 2 nics and set up a m0n0wall box?
<comfurtn> bkingx: I would imagine that you can... DD-WRT can do about anything ;)
<bkingx> I found these instructions: http://www.sneaq.net/2006/10/05/local-dnsmasq-setup-with-dd-wrt/
<bkingx> looks a bit complicated, but I think it can be done.
<comfurtn> about the meeting... my nightclass ends at 8, so I'll be in around 8:20
<comfurtn> i got held up last week and didnt make it in time.
<bkingx> no problem
<bkingx> You can catch up later by reading the log on the wiki site
<bkingx> etank, are you in on the server now?
<etank> nope
<bkingx> Well, was going to say have at it. I'm hitting the bed!
<Zuph> Tomorrow I might have to write php code :(
<etank> Zuph: sorry to hear that
<bkingx> later all!
<etank> night
<etank> i like python / django
<Zuph> I have some experience in PHP (granted, all of it in PHP4), and the utility I'm supposedly adding functionality to is written in PHP.
<montgoej> I'm going to sleep, see you guys later...I might even get lucky and get outta school tomorrow if the roads freeze over
<etank> g'night all
<JarG0n> etank> I tried editing /etc/apt/sources.list for the error I listed here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358245
<JarG0n> Where should this be? http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
<|{evin> security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse
<JarG0n> So I should temporarily comment this one out?
<JarG0n> i ran sudo apt-get update and this error was returned:
<JarG0n> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages)
<JarG0n> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
<JarG0n> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
<JarG0n> Line E: seems to be related
<|{evin> Do you have two entries that include edgy-security main?
<JarG0n> I think so, let me check.
<JarG0n> I'm no longer getting the error though
<JarG0n> Doing what he said seems to have fixed it without commenting out anything thus far
<JarG0n> Each time I was hitting "Check", it would return that first error.
<JarG0n> Any idea why the ISO burning program would freeze up while beginning to write to a new DVD (via ISO) ?
<JarG0n> hi rittenhouse
<etank> JarG0n: what burn software are you using?
<JarG0n> I just right click the ISO, and choose "Open with CD/DVD Creator"
<JarG0n> no real program name that I can find
<JarG0n> It's just a popup box that says "Writing Image to Disc". It's working at the moment though.l
<JarG0n> I'll burn one or two, and then it will freeze on the next one in the beginning stages of burning.
<JarG0n> Nothing I do, a 'sudo kill process', or Xing out, or kill process in System Monitor will kill it.
<JarG0n> I have to reboot.
<etank> i've never seen that
<JarG0n> maybe it's my burner
<JarG0n> :^(
<etank> I try to use k3b for burning CDs
<JarG0n> I got a LiteOn 16X DVD/RW burner
<etank> it is a KDE app but it works really well
<JarG0n> oh
<JarG0n> Do you have to use KDE interface in order to use KDE apps? I use GNOME.
<etank> it will install the libs that it needs
<etank> it wont install the whole kde desktop
<JarG0n> cool
<JarG0n> i'll look up the app
<etank> i use it from gnome
<JarG0n> also.. how do I close gnome without rebooting?
<JarG0n> and go to the command line...
<JarG0n> I know I can hit ctrl + alt + F1
<etank> sudo aptitude install k3b
<JarG0n> but I want to close it on F7
<JarG0n> so I can load XFCE
<JarG0n> I just wanted to test it out
<etank> to kill X and restart it use ctrl + alt + bksp
<JarG0n> I don't want to restart it though, using gnome.
<JarG0n> I want to be able to close gnome, and load XFCE instead.
<JarG0n> know what I mean?
<JarG0n> the default interface for Kubuntu
<etank> ctrl + alt + bksp will just restart X not the PC
<JarG0n> right, but wont' that bring up the login screen again?
<etank> yes it will
<|{evin> /etc/init.dgdm stop
<|{evin> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
<JarG0n> ah, I see. I've tried just using 'gdm stop'
<|{evin> or /etc/init.d/kdm stop or xdm, depending on which you're running
<JarG0n> didn't ever work
<JarG0n> What is this /etc/init.d/ stuff about?
<|{evin> that's where the start/stop scripts are located
<JarG0n> Why can't I just use gdm stop from any directory?
<|{evin> you can
<|{evin> just type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
<JarG0n> It just returns me back to the command prompt
<|{evin> because /etc/init.d isn't in your path
<JarG0n> I understand, but if I just type 'gdm stop' it doesn't work.
<JarG0n> What's in these scrips?
<|{evin> a list of commands that start and stop processes
<JarG0n> Ok, DVD finished.. Going to burn another.
<JarG0n> ah
<etank> they are the scripts that control the services running on the system
<JarG0n> Sorry to interrogate you so much. You've been very helpful.
<JarG0n> I see you go to Bluegrass Budokai? (Spelled wrong probably)
<|{evin> they set up any environmental variables if needed, that kind of stuff
<etank> JarG0n: yes i do
<|{evin> it's just a bash script with a case statement... if start... do this... if stop.. do that.. if restart do something else..
<JarG0n> I go to Sin The`'s, or at least I did until I broke my toe.
<etank> JarG0n: are you interested in aikido, iaido or judo?
<|{evin> kempo, ftw
<JarG0n> Been taking a long vacation off while it heals. These damn joint injuries take forever to heal.
<|{evin> fuck.
<|{evin> _all_ of Vonage is down.
<JarG0n> I was interested in aikido and judo
<JarG0n> holy cow!!
<JarG0n> WHY?
<JarG0n> I have vonage
<|{evin> they said "known issue"
<JarG0n> bs
<etank> I did kenpo before
<etank> should be testing for shodan in aikido soon
<etank> like in a month or so
<JarG0n> etank> I'm really interested in the chinese styles: H'SING-I and Pakua.
<JarG0n> circle fighting
<JarG0n> Aikido looked interesting too. I know some of the black belt students at Sin The`s go there.
<JarG0n> Dont' they talk about the dynamic sphere?
<JarG0n> I think there's a relationship between Pakua and Aikido there.
<JarG0n> ha, I knew it!
<etank> yep dynamic sphere is big in aikido
<etank> pakua is cool
<etank> I did hung-gar for a while
<etank> nice shaolin style
<JarG0n> In this book I have that lists most martial arts, it says that you are LESS likely to be thrown if you are crouched down. This is how I spar.
<JarG0n> never heard of hung-gar
<JarG0n> Yes, I'm very interested in Pakua. It seems to set itself apart from everything else.
<JarG0n> circling your opponent seems logical
<etank> you do that in aikido :)
<etank> quite a bit
<JarG0n> I've noticed I can jump backwards or forwards quite better too
<JarG0n> you have far less control standing straight up I believe
<JarG0n> or, slower to respond?
<JarG0n> you essentially have to drop down some in order to lunge in any direction to get out of the way
<JarG0n> I wonder why this was frowned upon in Judo
<JarG0n> crap, here it goes AGAIN
<JarG0n> It's stuck on "Preparing to write to DVD"
* JarG0n looks for his hammer
<etank> hit it hard
<JarG0n> how can I kill it?
<JarG0n> the session
<JarG0n> the status of the process is 'uninterruptable'
<etank> im not sure what the process is called
<etank> if you knew it then you could run 'sudo kill -9 process_name'
<JarG0n> it is 'growisofs'
<JarG0n> i'll try that
<JarG0n> ERROR: garbage process ID "growisofs"
<JarG0n> Status is still uninterruptable too
<|{evin> s/process_name/process_id
<JarG0n> sudo kill -9 s/process_name/process_id ?
<|{evin> s/process_name/process_id = replace process_name with process_id
<|{evin> root 22199 0.0 1.2 22400 2852 ? S 09:06 0:00 nmap -n -O -P0 -sV -sS -sU --host_timeout 7200000 207.162.164.49
<|{evin> in this case, I'd .... sudo kill -9 22199
<JarG0n> still didn't work
<JarG0n> Guess I'm going to reboot.
<JarG0n> thanks for your help
<captiancrash> hey.
<etank> hey
<etank> |{evin: you on still
<etank> i have some questions about mod-proxy if you can help
<comfurtn> anybody else get any snow this morning?
<etank> im getting snow right now
<etank> ice earlier
<|{evin> was snowing last time I looked outside
<comfurtn> just checking... its still snowing here.
<Zuph> Thank you, work, for reminding me why I never want to be a programmer.
<etank> php got you down?
<Zuph> yeah
<Zuph> I'm trying to add a module that is every similar to an existing module
<Zuph> So I just copied the existing module, made some new tables, and added all the appropriate references.
<Zuph> Except now when I create a new data entry under that module, it doesn't show up. It exists, because If I reference it directly, it works, and it write to the correct table
<Zuph> But it doesn't list it in the list
<Zuph> I've traced it down to one object call, but I can't figure out why that particular object call is causing it to not display any data.
<captiancrash> had snow here. mostly ice now.
<etank> I was hoping for more ice and snow so that I wouldn't have to go to work today :(
<montgoej> I got outta school today because of it :)
<etank> must be nice
<montgoej> yep...it's pretty sweet
<captiancrash> what part of KY are you guys from?
<captiancrash> Owensboro-ish part here..
<montgoej> Harrodsburg
<etank> lexington
<|{evin> Elk Creek
<captiancrash> montgoej: ever do the lanwar thing?
<etank> he left
<captiancrash> i should look up at times.
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