<smoenux> so... rofl... that kernel update was really annoying :P

<smoenux> luckilly it was easilly fixed with Envy ^_^

<linuxboy> ok

<smoenux> hehe.... how are ye doing ?

<linuxboy> good, you

<smoenux> I know it was a Odd Hello :P

<linuxboy> ?

<smoenux> I'm goo

<smoenux> d*

<smoenux> So... I have to say, I've been using Ubuntu now since about August last year, and I've never had so much fun on a OS :P. My friends actually joke with me, saying that I cannot "play" with a OS, lol

<linuxboy> oh

<linuxboy> we play all the time

<linuxboy> OS-OS

<linuxboy> almost like house-house

<linuxboy> or doctor-doctor

<smoenux> rofl

<smoenux> sometimes I ask my buddy what he's doing... he would reply: "Playing GoW (Gears of War), and you?"

<smoenux> then I reply: "Ubuntuing :P"

<smoenux> hehe

<Vhata> what's Envy?

<edubuntugirl> Vhata: by the way, morgs told me to tell you 'Can knab announce RSS feeds?' 26 days, 21 hours, 42 minutes and 8 seconds ago (on Wed Jan 17 12:05:11 2007)

<Vhata> no.

<Vhata> what's Envy?

<smoenux> Envy is a script that downloads the latest NVIDIA proprietary driver from nvidia's website, and installs it on your system

<linuxboy> nasty

<smoenux> lol

<Vhata> oh, I also had nvidia crap

<Vhata> I just used module-assistant

<Vhata> m-a a-i nvidia

<Vhata> *done*

<Vhata> although I had to do a depmod after that, for some reason - the post-install scripts should really do that for you

<smoenux> depmod?

<Vhata> rebuilds the kernel module dependency tree, so that modprobe knows what it has to load

<smoenux> oh....

<smoenux> ok... envy seems good, It looks as though it will be with Feisty

<Vhata> I wouldn't use Envy - it sounds like it does a manual install

<Vhata> if something's going on my system, it must be in a .deb package with proper dependency and uninstall information

<smoenux> Envy allows you to uninstall also... well, I cant really say much about it since I'm still too much of a ubu-noob. But it worked wonders for me.

<smoenux> It cant be that bad if they are thinking of including it in Feisty

<smoenux> can it ?

<Vhata> I don't know anything about it ;-)

<Vhata> what I mean is

<Vhata> a script that downloads files and copies them all over my system...

<Vhata> um

<Vhata> okay, everything on my system is installed from .deb files, using apt-get or aptitude (and, indirectly, dpkg)

<smoenux> ah... ok... I see what you mean

<Vhata> and I can go 'dpkg -l' to see what's installed, and 'dpkg -L' to find out what files are in a package, and so on

<Vhata> there's dependency information, so when I remove a package, I can tell what packages also need to be removed, and so on

<Vhata> I can clean up my system any time

<smoenux> actually.... envy itself is in the repos

<Vhata> if a foreign script just slams some extra files in somewhere, they're unaccounted for

<Vhata> but I may be maligning Envy - it might integrate with the rest of the system nicely

<smoenux> yeah... I understand what you mean

<Vhata> and if they include it in Feisty, I'm sure they'll make sure it slots in and registers everything and all that

<smoenux> I think I've got lots of nasty stuff on my system which is unaccounted for ... rofl

<smoenux> As far as I know the Envy script is actually written my Amaranth... but I may be mistaken.... Here is the link if you are interested in looking it up: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html

<Vhata> thanks

<smoenux> oh, I see now, on the site, it says: "This project is also registered on Launchpad"

<Vhata> looks quite good

<Slaughterer> hello, is there someone that could perhaps help me please

<linuxboy> I'm sure there is

<Slaughterer> Ubuntu isn't mounting my SATA NTFS HDD

<linuxboy> NTFS

<linuxboy> good luck

<Slaughterer> it is listed when using 'sudo fdisk -l'

<Vhata> try #ubuntu for support

<linuxboy> yeah

<linuxboy> we hate NTFS

<Slaughterer> #ubuntu is crazy

<linuxboy> it is

<Slaughterer> k, fixed it

<linuxboy> hi_

<Slaughterer_> hi

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