<Zuph> ugh, in windows to file taxes
<bkingx> OK...building a local DNS Server...what should I use?
<bkingx> Got Ubuntu Edgy, of course.
<JarG0n> howdy
<etank> hey guys
<Zuph_> howdy
<JarG0n> what's the offtopic channel again?
<JarG0n> Which, i'm sure noone is in.
<JarG0n> ;)
<Zuph_> haha
<etank> you can just create a channel by doing a /join #channel_name
<etank> then tell us where the off topic channel is that you created
<Zuph_> and none of us will join :)
<comfurtn> hey guys
<etank> sup comfurtn
<comfurtn> been a crazy monday....
<Zuph_> Uncle Sam raped me hard today.
<comfurtn> ah... happens to the best of us.
<etank> Zuph_: did you get a kiss?
<Zuph_> Nope. Not even a courtesy reach-around.
*** Zuph_ is now known as Zuph
<etank> that does suck then
<Zuph> Yep.
<bkingx> YO!
<Zuph> Next year my parents are decidedly not claiming me as a dependent.
<bkingx> MAN!! 3 kids and childcare make my return quite pleasant@@
<bkingx> That and morgage interest
<Zuph> Unfortunately, because my parents claimed me as a depended, I couldn't count tuition as a deduction.
<Zuph> *dependent
<comfurtn> Zuph: ouch!
<bkingx> Wow...that sucks!
<Zuph> Yeah. So I had to pay a TON on scholarship money.
<Zuph> Although I guess I shouldn't complain about giving the government some of the money it gave me back :)
<comfurtn> Zuph: well, i would complain ;)
<JarG0n> one was already registered by someone
<JarG0n> I can't find it though
<JarG0n> Zuph> Those really aren't taxes you're paying there, but I can't talk about that here.
<etank> JarG0n: do a /join #ubuntu-offtopic
<etank> there are around 130 people in there
<JarG0n> oh
<Zuph> I come home this afternoon to find that my external hard drive would only mount read-only :(
<Zuph> and fsck.vfat has been chugging away at one corrupt file for over an hour :(
<etank> sup montgoej
<montgoej> nm, u?
<etank> nada
<montgoej> I sent you an email, btw
<etank> i got it
<etank> im looking into it right now
<montgoej> okay cool
<montgoej> just givin' you a heads up
<etank> this is a test and if everyone approves of it we will be moving it to a different box
<etank> good to know though
<etank> is that set in apache settings or in php?
<montgoej> I think apache
<montgoej> cause on my site it indexing is disabled if you try to go straight into a directory with no index.html and has the little "apache running on Red Hat linux blah blah blah at the bottom
<montgoej> http://www.kyol.net/~hatc101/images/
<montgoej> that's what the page looks like
<etank> where is the setting for that?
<montgoej> I'm not sure...I didn't have to set it up
<etank> i thought that I had it but i can still browse the dir structure
<montgoej> I'm gonna read into that actually, cause I'm thinking of setting up a server or paying for a virtual server for a private site...so this could come in handy
<montgoej> I just notice how boring reading Apache docs really can be...
<etank> very boring
<etank> montgoej: try to browse the dir structure now.
<etank> i think i got it
<montgoej> yay! I can't do it now
<etank> I set up the default virtual host to point to the dir with the files
<etank> a line with 'Options FollowSymLinks MultiViews Indexes' was in it two times
<etank> i just had to remove the Indexes from it and reload apache
<montgoej> I can actually access the "LICENSE.txt" file at the root directory of the site though
<montgoej> I wouldn't even know that was in there had I not checked the "robots.txt" file
<montgoej> wonder why it tells google not to see the license file...interesting
<bkingx> Uh....what?
<bkingx> etank, you haven't worked on the new site yet?
<etank> weird
<etank> bkingx: thats what i am doing now
<bkingx> Oh yeah?
<montgoej> there is a file with the GPL v2 in the root directory of the site, under the name "LICENSE.txt"...but I don't see it on any other sites running apache
<etank> it probably came from the drupal install
<montgoej> yeah
<bkingx> I still think you need to replace the banner with the one we worked on earlier.
<etank> look for a INSTALL.txt
<montgoej> yep it's there
<montgoej> drupal...
<etank> yeah
<etank> it was easy to get going
<etank> someone posted the theme on one of the wiki pages
<etank> bkingx: I still feel that the ubuntu logo should be on it.
<bkingx> My .02, we are trying to support and promote Ubuntu, not be them. They have their own look and site and to make ours look like theirs, makes me feel like we are a group of roadies.
<bkingx> I think if we are going to be successful as a support group, we need our won presence, yet support all things Ubunut.
<bkingx> Which should include K, X, E, etc
<etank> i just think that when people see the site they should connect it to Ubuntu
<bkingx> They would through our support and the links on the left.
<bkingx> If it is our meetings, our blogs, etc....it should be us.
<etank> But we are an Ubuntu LoCo team. Without Ubuntu we would be just a LUG.
<bkingx> I agree. That's why we should promote Ubuntu on our site. But not try to BE Ubuntu. Know what I mean>
<bkingx> I mean...whats the use of haveing LoCo teams then, if they shouldn't branch out to use the member's creativity to promote Ubuntu?
<bkingx> Look how you hooked me, by showing me what it can do, not by just sending me to the Ubuntu site.
<bkingx> Again, just my opinion.
<etank> i know what you mean.
<montgoej> is it just me or have the Ubuntu Forums changed the font colors to red?
<montgoej> i've been noticing it...and it's kinda...annoying
<etank> I think that i saw somewhere that they are doing a revamp on the Ubuntu pages as a whole
<montgoej> hm...the forums are horribly annoying with the red IMHO
<etank> where do you see red?
<montgoej> I'm noticing it when I check a forum that has new posts
<comfurtn> montgoej: i'm seeing red to...on thread titles
<montgoej> yeah, that's where I'm seeing it..but it goes away after I reload the page
<bkingx> <yawn> Time to hit the hay!
<etank> hmmm. im seeing them in black
<etank> me too
<bkingx> I'll talk everyone tomorrow!
<bkingx> etank, I should be in the office tomorrow and we can talk more about the banner.
<etank> i'll talk to you guys later
<etank> ok
<bkingx> Later!
<montgoej> yeah, I'm gonna go to sleep too...I can't fall asleep at school tomorrow or my mom's gonna get pissed!
<JarG0n> anybody awake?
<comfurtn> yup.
<JarG0n> how can I stop the tor service?
<JarG0n> I forgot
<comfurtn> sudo /etc/init.d/tor stop, i think
<comfurtn> haven't used tor in quite some time.
<JarG0n> yeah
<JarG0n> I need to store that in a script
<JarG0n> thx sir
<comfurtn> JarG0n: welcome.
<Zuph> How can I install packages that aren't on the CD to an ubuntu server that isn't connected to the internet?
<comfurtn> Zuph: do you have a USB drive?
<Zuph> Yes
<comfurtn> just download the package to the drive, and transfer it over
<comfurtn> or use a CDR, for that matter (it would save you from having to get the usb drive to work)
<Zuph> Where can I get the package, though?
<comfurtn> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
<comfurtn> i used to download packages like that when i had dialup... back in the old days -_-
<Zuph> so this is goofy
<Zuph> working with a php+mysql open source crm product
<lapjack> sugarcrm!
<Zuph> That exact one, as a matter of fact.
<Zuph> Instead of actually deleting anything, it just gives it a deleted=1 flag, and no means of undeleting that which you've deleted.
<Zuph> Which means the sql table just grows over time.
<lapjack> no shit?
<Zuph> Which will never be an issue in my application, but I can easily see that choking a long-lasting, heavy use system.
<lapjack> | deleted | tinyint(1) | NO | | 0
<lapjack> wtf
<Zuph> yeah. strikes me as the most goofy database construct EVER
<Zuph> although I'm not a database expert by any stretch of the imagination.
<lapjack> oh damn
<lapjack> select * from contacts where deleted=1;
<lapjack> 2 rows in set (0.01 sec)
<Zuph> haha
<lapjack> looks like a job for a cleanup script
<lapjack> on cron
<Zuph> I dunno if that's the intention, so you can accidentally undelete if need be
<Zuph> Still strikes me as goofy
<lapjack> that part makes sense.. but there still should be a purge somewhere
<lapjack> or "archive and purge"
<Zuph> yeah
<Zuph> So far, though, this is customizable beyond my wildest dreams
<lapjack> we started using it here a month or so ago
<Zuph> huzzah
<Zuph> How can I change the default application used to open a file?
<Zuph> Nevermind, figured it out

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