| *** kgoetz_ is now known as kgoetz | |
| <merlin-linux> moaning all | |
| <romana> anyone using feisty? | |
| <kgoetz> romana: try #ubuntu+1 | |
| <romana> yeah karl, in there | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <romana> i dont actually have a problem as such - upgrading quietly to it in bg:) | |
| <romana> but thx for pointer, as you saidit, i had it:) | |
| <kgoetz> ah right :) | |
| * kgoetz tries to quickly fidn hte list of shots hes already had before injections in an hour *sigh*... i better get back to it :O! | |
| <romana> yay, shots! | |
| *** TPK is now known as ThePizzaKing | |
| *** greebs is now known as greebo | |
| <bimberi> ubuntu-au on gname \o/. Awesome! Rock on Freedom Lovers. | |
| * bimberi writes out a royalty cheque to jdub ;) | |
| <cps_> ha ha | |
| <bimberi> *gmane (D'Oh) | |
| *** Hit3k_ is now known as Hit3k | |
| <siccness> Afternoon homiez, what's crackin on da eastside muh g's? | |
| <purserj> you really want me to travel down there and hit you with the complete works of shakespear don't you | |
| <siccness> well i am up for a beer | |
| <siccness> so you wanna head down now? | |
| <kgoetz> yay! i thinhk my sata cabloe was damaged, not my drive :D (wont know for sure for a bit yet) | |
| <kgoetz> oh wait... i wasnt using the drive... *grr* | |
| <Hit3k> hahahaha oh thats hilarious | |
| <kgoetz> :P | |
| <kgoetz> try 3... i should really check i mount file systems before i sync onto them | |
| *** cps_ is now known as cps | |
| <kgoetz> hm... i can sync some files, but its spewing errors into syslog like you've never seen, and i'm getting huge wait times on teh cpu (and load too) | |
| <siccness> Hmm, very interesting | |
| <kgoetz> s/interesting/depressing :( | |
| * kgoetz (tries) to reboot, then i'll do a fs consistancy scan (if i can work out how) | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <siccness> Taco's for me in 2 hours baby! | |
| <siccness> OHH YEAH | |
| <siccness> TACOS! | |
| <kgoetz> smooth | |
| <siccness> Yup | |
| * kgoetz finishes another apple | |
| <siccness> I can't eat apples, the rest of my teeth will fall out :| | |
| <kgoetz> :| | |
| <cafuego_> nachos > tacos | |
| <kgoetz> apples <= stuff | |
| <cafuego_> No, granny smith rocks | |
| <greebo> cafuego, no, no she doesn't. As her grand-daughter I should know ;) | |
| <cafuego_> ha | |
| <cafuego_> the apple is supposedly from sydney, you related? | |
| <cafuego_> or is your deep, dark secret that you're actually from wollongong? ;-) | |
| <siccness> < cafuego_> nachos > tacos <--a taco is just a giant version of a nacho | |
| <siccness> so really, tacos > nachos | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: No, you got that completely wrong. | |
| <siccness> no | |
| <siccness> completely right | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: A taco is a giant version of a taquito | |
| <cafuego_> nachos are a different dish altogether | |
| <siccness> no | |
| <siccness> Actually when you really think about it, they're all the same. | |
| <cafuego_> nachos -> corn chips with cheese/salsa/guacamole | |
| <siccness> nacos often have meat as well man | |
| <cafuego_> tacos -> folded corn bread, stufefd with meat/bean filling | |
| <kgoetz> foodies. | |
| <Hit3k> i want food :( | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: dude, taco bell doesn't count | |
| <siccness> of course it doesn't. Taco Bell is shit American crap | |
| <siccness> Do we even have Taco Bell in Australia? | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: Those tex-mex places mix it all up into a cornchip/cheese goo | |
| <Hit3k> i think so... | |
| * cafuego_ ponders a beer magarita | |
| <siccness> taco -> corn with meat, cheese, guacamole, salsa | |
| <siccness> nacho -> ^^same as above | |
| <siccness> taquito -> oh oh, guess what? same as above :P | |
| <cafuego_> A taco is a traditional Mexican dish comprised of a rolled or folded, pliable maize tortilla filled with an edible substance. Nachos in their simplest form are usually tortilla chips covered in melted cheese. | |
| <kgoetz> siccness: you eat weird nachos | |
| <cafuego_> what messed up suburb do you live in? | |
| <siccness> who eats nacho's in their simplest form? that's weak. | |
| <siccness> Who doesn't have meat on their nachos? | |
| * kgoetz slaps siccness | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: cheese+jalapeño | |
| * kgoetz slaps siccness | |
| <siccness> jalapeno? | |
| * cafuego_ cries | |
| <kgoetz> lol | |
| <siccness> cafuego_: i know what they are | |
| <siccness> but you put a ? instead | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: Your UTF8 support is broken. | |
| <siccness> Yeah | |
| <siccness> I was just thinking that | |
| <cafuego_> it was in fact an n with a ~ on in. | |
| <siccness> ~n | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <kgoetz> yay for utf8 terminal | |
| <siccness> either way, your nachos suck. | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: Either way, tacos are a mexican dish. Nachos are not. | |
| <kgoetz> gaaaah. stop it, your making me hungry :( | |
| <siccness> cafuego_: I dunno, it seemed to have been invented by a Mexican | |
| <cafuego_> I think the mayo i just made is possibly my worst batch ever :-( | |
| <siccness> Anaya was living in Piedras Negras, Coahuila, Mexico, across the border from Eagle Pass, Texas, USA, and working at El Moderno restaurant there, in 1943, when he invented nachos and served them at the restaurant as "Nachos Especiales". | |
| <cafuego_> Aaaah, he made it for a bunch of americans, i see. | |
| <siccness> Not necessarily | |
| * cafuego_ is checking wikipedia | |
| * siccness patiently waits for a response :) | |
| <kgoetz> hi thor | |
| <d3> ah yes very good, hello all | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <kgoetz> hi d3 | |
| <Hit3k_> oh and d3 dont forget d3 | |
| <Hit3k_> :p | |
| <MatthewV> anyone know what the /includes folder in a wp installation is for? | |
| <kgoetz> wha? | |
| <Hit3k_> for the classes maybe? | |
| <d3> i have been having real problems with my displays guys... | |
| <MatthewV> problem is i accidentally deleted it :S | |
| <MatthewV> and now my wp installation is broke | |
| <MatthewV> admin still works fine but the frontend is... | |
| <d3> i just got them working with a combo or the 'envy' script and a sudo apt-get nvidia-glx | |
| <d3> but i still cant see my second display | |
| <Hit3k_> oh shit | |
| <Hit3k_> i think thats like... themes and plugins | |
| <kgoetz> wp? | |
| <MatthewV> Hit3k, hmm.. yeah index.php requires three files out of there :( | |
| <Hit3k_> wordpress | |
| <MatthewV> kgoetz, wordpress | |
| <kgoetz> aaah, i seeeee :) | |
| <MatthewV> but themes etc are in wp-content | |
| <Hit3k_> oh | |
| <MatthewV> kgoetz, its nothing to :) about | |
| <kgoetz> MatthewV: :S | |
| <Hit3k_> MatthewV, should be able to just copy an includes folder | |
| <MatthewV> anyone have an includes folder i can copy then? | |
| <MatthewV> ;) | |
| <Hit3k_> i have an outdated one | |
| <MatthewV> it isnt included in a tarball from wordpress, i tried that already, must be created by install | |
| <Hit3k_> hrm | |
| <Hit3k_> reinstall? | |
| <MatthewV> Hit3k, if it includes the files defines.php framework.php and application.php i'll give it a shot | |
| <Hit3k_> i dunno where it is though | |
| <Hit3k_> what version of wp is it? | |
| <MatthewV> versions.php is reporting 2.0.3 | |
| <MatthewV> but that doesnt seem to exists :S | |
| <Hit3k_> :/ | |
| <MatthewV> Hit3k, what version you got? | |
| <MatthewV> if its 2.0.x it should be fine | |
| <MatthewV> *hope* | |
| <Hit3k_> I'd recommend upgrading to 2.1 | |
| <MatthewV> Hit3k, thanks.. i might have to try that then, don't know if i'll get round to that later tonight though | |
| <MatthewV> need to get some homework done | |
| <MatthewV> thanks anyway though | |
| <Hit3k_> no problem | |
| <MatthewV> in the meantime i'll post a "Site Down Notice" | |
| <Hit3k_> i'll see if i can find 2.03 includes | |
| * MatthewV considers his downtime page very good for 2 mintues of work :) | |
| <MatthewV> Hit3k_, bbs thanks again | |
| <adhok> evenen all | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| * adhok has a stressful day | |
| <adhok> lucychili saved me at the end of it tho =) | |
| <adhok> and i had a yack to young Dan from Nairne | |
| <kgoetz> sweet :) | |
| <kgoetz> he back in your area? | |
| * adhok is such an old fart | |
| <adhok> kgoetz: he was passing throught town en route to a concert | |
| <adhok> this eve will be stress free | |
| <kgoetz> i wanted to visit him, and hes concerting :( seriously. priorities! | |
| <Hit3k_> adhok, is old | |
| * Hit3k_ sings | |
| <kgoetz> adhok: so you havent seen polly yet? ;) | |
| <Hit3k_> oops -, | |
| <adhok> Hit3k_: were you meant to say that out loud? | |
| <Hit3k_> uh.......................no | |
| <adhok> kgoetz: polly? | |
| * adhok 's four leg? | |
| <kgoetz> yeh :) | |
| <adhok> why? | |
| <adhok> did you visit today or summat? | |
| <kgoetz> 18:22 < adhok> this eve will be stress free | |
| <adhok> polly is lots better =) | |
| <kgoetz> have you ever had a stress free evening with polly around? i never did ;) | |
| <adhok> yeah | |
| <adhok> shes ok =) | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <adhok> she gets excited about dinner, this is true =) | |
| <kgoetz> hehe | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> <<<Using irssi. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> GAIM won't autologin into any IRC accounts for some reason. | |
| <adhok> anyhow, speaking of stress free | |
| <adhok> my second hard disk died last night | |
| <kgoetz> *grin* see you? :) | |
| * kgoetz is looking like having one of his drives die soon :( i'll relate on a very accurate level :| | |
| <lucychili> We are looking at sending a few of our staff to an embedded Linux introduction course. Problem is the course is only run in Sydney. I'm trying to gauge if there is any interest for a course being run in Adelaide - if there are enough extra people interested the provider may be able to arrange to run it here. | |
| <lucychili> The course that has been pointed out is run by NICTA: http://www.nicta.com.au/short_courses (Introduction to Linux for Embedded Developers). | |
| <lucychili> If you would be interested in attending such a course if it made it to Adelaide, drop me an email off the list so I can get an idea of numbers. I can't make any promises that anything further will happen at this stage, though. | |
| <lucychili> Regards, | |
| <lucychili> A | |
| <lucychili> -- | |
| <lucychili> Adam Hawes | |
| <lucychili> Vision Fire + Security | |
| <lucychili> Ph: +61 (0)8 8300 4000 | |
| <lucychili> Fax: +61 (0)8 8300 4001 | |
| <lucychili> oops | |
| <lucychili> crap | |
| <kgoetz> sheesh. flood | |
| <lucychili> sorry wrong window | |
| <Hit3k_> flood!!!! | |
| <lucychili> yeh boot my butt | |
| <lucychili> ill boot myself | |
| <kgoetz> adhok: do me a favour ;) | |
| * Davo_Dinkum drowns in flood | |
| * Hit3k_ calls that number.. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What state is 08? | |
| <adhok> Hit3k_: how much is the training course? | |
| <adhok> Davo_Dinkum: SA & WA | |
| <kgoetz> Davo_Dinkum: sa+nt | |
| <adhok> Davo_Dinkum: SA & WA & NT | |
| <kgoetz> adhok: sure its wa? :O | |
| <adhok> some of WA is 08 | |
| <kgoetz> aok | |
| <kgoetz> brb | |
| <Hit3k_> what? i dont know its not my training course | |
| <adhok> anyhow, i think my disk actually lost its partition table | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I'm buying a PowerMac dammit | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Yay! Open Firmware! | |
| <Hit3k_> lol | |
| <adhok> is there a nice way of copying the partition table from one disk to another ? | |
| <adhok> elkbuntu: ping? | |
| <elkbuntu> adhok pong? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> .| | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> :D | |
| <adhok> elkbuntu: is this channel logged? | |
| <elkbuntu> |. | |
| <adhok> for the group? | |
| <elkbuntu> adhok, it is, yes | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> .| | |
| <elkbuntu> the locobots log | |
| <kgoetz> adhok: i think dd can | |
| <elkbuntu> |o | |
| <adhok> elkbuntu: did you get my PM ? | |
| <elkbuntu> did now | |
| <MatthewV> anyone tried upgrading to feisty lately? | |
| <TheMuso> Yes, although it was done on a text-only/console box. | |
| <MatthewV> TheMuso, you would've had no probs on that box, i assume? | |
| <TheMuso> Nope. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> kgoetz: Is an iMac G4 1.25Ghz 2gig RAM fast enough to compile a PPC port of gNewSense on? | |
| <MatthewV> i'm wondering how smooth it is atm for a full ubuntu system | |
| <MatthewV> i've found on two separate edgy systems blender can cause an entire x crash | |
| <kgoetz> Davo_Dinkum: absolutely | |
| <MatthewV> and i'm hoping thats fixed - i've tried that on two separate pcs and two diff versions of blender, all the same | |
| <adhok> Davo_Dinkum: yes, plenty =) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> kgoetz: Estimated time for porting? | |
| <adhok> Davo_Dinkum: memory is your key problem, then disk I/O | |
| <kgoetz> Davo_Dinkum: this isnt something you can simply build and be done. | |
| <adhok> Davo_Dinkum: if you want to speed builds up | |
| <adhok> Davo_Dinkum: learn how to use 'tmpfs' | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> adhok: Would a USB2/firewire 400 hdd be better? | |
| <adhok> SCSI!!!!!!1111one | |
| <kgoetz> Davo_Dinkum: to answer your question i hav eno idea. look on launchpad for how long builds take for ubuntu. the answer is 'a long time' | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> tmpfs?! | |
| * Davo_Dinkum runs | |
| <kgoetz> usb=bleh | |
| <adhok> IDE disks on USB is slow | |
| <adhok> even USB2 | |
| <kgoetz> adhok: i have 2x18 gig and 1x9 gig 10 discs :) they should be going into the alpha as soon as i'm bothered :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> SCSI on USB2/fw400 then? | |
| <adhok> FW400 is better | |
| <kgoetz> *10k rpm | |
| <adhok> FW800 rocks ;) | |
| <kgoetz> fw>usb. full stop | |
| * adhok has one working 10,000 rpm SATA drive that can sustain writes of 10Mbytes/second | |
| <adhok> reads of nearly 18 | |
| <adhok> RAID 1 rocks ;) | |
| * kgoetz hasnt tested his | |
| <kgoetz> heh | |
| <adhok> anyhow is there a way of duplicatiing partition tables? | |
| <kgoetz> adhok: i think dd can | |
| <adhok> eep! | |
| <adhok> that would bounce the disk!?!?!?! | |
| <adhok> hmmm i should just use fdisk hey ? | |
| <kgoetz> dunno. i havent tried myself :O | |
| * adhok crask open another term on the ubuntu live cd and tries ... | |
| <adhok> sound like the disk is actually buggered =( | |
| <kgoetz> eek. | |
| <adhok> lots more of these; | |
| <adhok> [75535.115668] nv_sata: Secondary device added | |
| <adhok> [75535.524539] nv_sata: Primary device added | |
| <adhok> [75535.682407] nv_sata: Secondary device removed | |
| <adhok> [75536.099668] nv_sata: Primary device removed | |
| <adhok> [75536.116978] nv_sata: Secondary device added | |
| <adhok> [75525.981265] sdb: Current: sense key: Aborted Command | |
| <adhok> =( | |
| * kgoetz wodners if theres a bios update for his sytem to stop it not working, or if hes going to be filing bugs | |
| <kgoetz> :( | |
| <MatthewV> Hit3k, dont worry, i got wp working again, turns out my problem was actually overwriting index.php, and failing to notice | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Stupid tafe | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> it's all windows this and windows that | |
| *** DarthLap1y is now known as DarthLappy | |
| <waz_> monitors are in the wrong position and the reso is too low | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Don't ask me why we're learning about DOS and win9x | |
| <kgoetz> where? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> At tafe | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> C'mon someone whinge with me. | |
| <kgoetz> away, dinner | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Why aren't you saying something? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> kgoetz: Oh right. | |
| *** DarthLap1y is now known as DarthLappy | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Would it be possible to use a PPC machine as a thin client server and have an x86 machine acting as a thin client? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I'm guessing it would be | |
| * Davo_Dinkum falls asleep | |
| <thoreauputic> Davo_Dinkum: yes | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Finally. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Jolly good then. | |
| <thoreauputic> Davo_Dinkum: X doesn't care what architecture the remote apps are running on :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Ah OK | |
| <thoreauputic> Davo_Dinkum: i actually do it the other way round ( just for fun) i.e. I run gnome/fluxbox/whatever remotely on my iBook from this x86 machine | |
| <thoreauputic> with Ubuntu running on both of course :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How is PPC Ubuntu, anyway? | |
| <thoreauputic> it's good except for codecs | |
| <thoreauputic> even my airport extreme wireless works | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Ooooh nice. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Wish my wireless worked :( | |
| <thoreauputic> I do this evil thing to play windows media - I run mac-on-linux and play them in the virtualised mac OS-X :) | |
| <thoreauputic> but I hardly ever need to really | |
| <waz_> hehe | |
| *** waz_ is now known as dj_ | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Stupid windows media | |
| <dj_> im sorry, but wont vlc run wmv? | |
| <thoreauputic> dj_: only some | |
| <thoreauputic> dj_: newer flavours won't play | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Which model iBook? | |
| <dj_> ones with drm? | |
| <thoreauputic> iBook G4 12" 1.2 GHz 768MB RAM | |
| <thoreauputic> dj_: *nothing* in Linux will play drm stuff afaik | |
| <thoreauputic> except DVDs with decss | |
| <dj_> i havnt even come across that yet | |
| <dj_> in any case i didnt mean to hijack the conversation | |
| <thoreauputic> :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hijack ? pfft | |
| <thoreauputic> I really mostly listen to my own CDs ripped to ogg - but streaming mp3 is nice to have and ppc Ubuntu handles that fine | |
| <thoreauputic> I can listen to the BBC with the somewhat *cough* flaky realplay for ppc ( hard to find and out of date) | |
| * Davo_Dinkum looks at binary numeral system | |
| <dj_> pardon the spam but | |
| <dj_> sudo apt-get install beryl emerald-themes | |
| <dj_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) | |
| <dj_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? | |
| <dj_> do i need to stop x | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> No | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Do you have synaptic open? | |
| <dj_> oh, yea | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Or update manager? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Close it! | |
| <dj_> syn | |
| <dj_> :D | |
| * Davo_Dinkum nods | |
| <dj_> beaut. | |
| <kgoetz> 19:03 < thoreauputic> Davo_Dinkum: X doesn't care what architecture the remote apps are running on :) | |
| <dj_> im a bit of a newb. | |
| <kgoetz> neither does ssh, which is behind ubuntus ltsp ;) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> dj_: np | |
| <dj_> i managed to sort out all by myself my nvidia drivers and set up my twinview | |
| * dj_ pats himself on the back | |
| <kgoetz> dj_: how did you do the twinview, follow a howto? | |
| <dj_> yes | |
| <thoreauputic> kgoetz: in fact I use remote X over ssh for my remote apps - although I tried xdmcp or whatever it's called and that works too ( just makes me nervous ) ;) | |
| <dj_> well, parts of a lot of how-tos :D | |
| <kgoetz> thoreauputic: heh. xdmcp is to easy | |
| <kgoetz> dj_: oh, that sounds like effort ;) | |
| <thoreauputic> kgoetz: which is silly since I only currently have two machines here and I use wpa on wireless so bare X is OK really | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Hmm I need to know more spreadsheet formulas. | |
| <thoreauputic> kgoetz: xdmcp is absurdly simple to set up, yeah - I had no idea it was so simple until I tried it | |
| <kgoetz> thoreauputic: *grin* 3 lines of config, iirc (one of them a comment :OPP) | |
| <thoreauputic> kgoetz: I was remembering the tldp howtos on remote X I read years ago :) | |
| <thoreauputic> kgoetz: you can do the whole thing with a couple of mouse clicks in the gdm setup dialogues | |
| <kgoetz> thoreauputic: mouse clicks? whats a mouse? ;) | |
| <thoreauputic> kgoetz: *grin* | |
| <kgoetz> *grin* | |
| <thoreauputic> cat < mouse | |
| <thoreauputic> ;-) | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <ThePizzaKing> Ah, those e-mail money scams make me feel loved: 'Dear Beloved' | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> We are gathered here today? | |
| <elkbuntu> rofl | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> To witness the scamming of some guy in another country. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Do you, scammer, wish to milk this poor sucker for all they are worth, regardless of how much is in their bank account? | |
| <elkbuntu> will you rort him in richness, and in poorness, sicness or health | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> You may now click the "I accept" button. | |
| * kgoetz has an image of siccness being rorted | |
| * Davo_Dinkum crowds claps | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *crowd claps | |
| <thoreauputic> hmm marriage is a kind of EULA ... | |
| <thoreauputic> ;-) | |
| <elkbuntu> hmm.. lets clean this up and try fro bash fame | |
| <elkbuntu> futile i know, but at least we will have tried | |
| <thoreauputic> ... in the old days you didn't even get to unwrap the package until after the EULA was signed ... | |
| <kingkarlos> hey guys, off-topic i know, but anybody else going to see nofx at lunar park in sydney? | |
| <elkbuntu> considering the distance between me and sydney, nope. | |
| <Hit3k_> elkbuntu, its like.. 6 hours | |
| <elkbuntu> Hit3k, travel costs money. this is the fatal flaw. | |
| <kgoetz> what she said | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Couchsurf!! | |
| <Hit3k_> elkbuntu, touche | |
| * kgoetz feels light heade | |
| <kgoetz> d | |
| <kgoetz> headed | |
| <kingkarlos> Its a four hour drive for me too. First time down to sydney for a while | |
| <elkbuntu> unless you're offering to pay travel? | |
| <elkbuntu> :Þ | |
| <thoreauputic> Davo_Dinkum: couchsurfing from Albury to Sydney only works if you have a Beowulf cluster of couches ;) | |
| * thoreauputic runs | |
| <kingkarlos> Haha. Skimping it enough already, but I was driving down if any body needed a ride | |
| <elkbuntu> kingkarlos, heh, i was asking for Hit3k to cough up ;) | |
| <kingkarlos> :-) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> thoreauputic: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/referential-integrity | |
| <thoreauputic> Davo_Dinkum: :D | |
| *** _fildo is now known as fildo_ | |
| *** fildo_ is now known as fildo | |
| * kgoetz wondesr where hes 'tidy'd his passport too | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Maddog is the godfather of Linus's oldest daughter!! http://everything2.com/?node_id=1354633 | |
| <kgoetz> um... yeh... :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Well I didn't know that. | |
| <kgoetz> sooo far behind there Davo_Dinkum :P | |
| * kgoetz hugs kingkarlos | |
| <kgoetz> i better not get myself confused with you though :O | |
| <kingkarlos> haha. confusion no, worship yes :-) | |
| * kgoetz wonders how to read that ;) | |
| <kingkarlos> kgoetz, left to right. | |
| <kgoetz> kingkarlos: drat, thats what i'v been doing wrong :\ | |
| <kgoetz> hm. this just isnt working | |
| *** kgoetz is now known as Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> better | |
| *** thoreauputic is now known as KDE-thor | |
| <KDE-thor> ;-) | |
| *** KDE-thor is now known as thoreauputic | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> would an init script to remove services that arnt wanted work ok do you think? | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: like #!/bin/sh rm -rf /etc/init.d/* ? <kidding> | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: yeh, something like that :) | |
| <thoreauputic> heh :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> services starting on boot after a package upgrade irrits the hell out of me :( | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: you could probably do something with update-rc.d in /etc/rc.local ( just a guess) | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: normally debconf or whatever should ask you if you want to keep your old config though - maybe this is a bug? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: it would if i wasnt using ubuntu | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: actually, is this askworthy configs? i thought it might be simply setting unsetting +x | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: I don't think dpkg sets / resets +x ( that would be pretty silly IMO) | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: ah - you have been setting -x I take it? | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: still, it should be left alone if you changed it ... | |
| <thoreauputic> (in theory) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: i run update-rc.d foo remove. i want it to stay that way | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser blames ubuntu (after all, its all the rage) | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: so the newer version reverts that? Sounds like a bug to me ... | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> After fiesty, the next release will be 'rage' | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: i suspect its because of changed debconf priorities, but i dont know much about how its setup | |
| <thoreauputic> neither do I :( | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :( | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Can I assign an app (gnome-terminal) to a keyboard shortcut? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i would expect so | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Alt+F3/F1 for example? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> How? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> dunno, but i'd expect so | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: maybe you could get really nasty and set chattr i to make your configs immutable :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: whoo.... thats just harsh :S. i'll give the rc.local thing a go! | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: alias dpkg='Leave my configuration alone!' | |
| <thoreauputic> :-) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: yes | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Where did you nick of to? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *off | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: How then? | |
| <cafuego_> System > Prefernces > Keyboard SHortcuts | |
| <siccness> tacos mate, giant versions of nachos | |
| <cafuego_> LIES!!! | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: theres a tool you can use | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Oh you tool | |
| <siccness> its in one of the gnome menus | |
| * cafuego_ splits siccness into prime numbered subnets that add up to i * pi^e | |
| <siccness> the third one | |
| * siccness masks cafuego_ :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: System? | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: ^cough^ cafuego_ System > Prefernces > Keyboard SHortcuts | |
| <cafuego_> ph33r my /8 | |
| <siccness> thoreauputic: yea well i dont use gnome, pansy stuff :P | |
| <cafuego_> ipv6 /8 | |
| <siccness> fear my 1024bit encryption | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness: HAHAHAAH | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: stop dissing pansies :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> not likely :P | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: What are you using now? | |
| <siccness> fwvm | |
| <siccness> fvwm | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: heh. my *cat* can break 1024bit | |
| <siccness> my cat can eat mouse, my cat is cooler. | |
| <cafuego_> Yes, my cat is melting, filthy weather | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I should by an i/PowerBook and run gNewSense on it just to confuse people at tafe | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> [thumbs up] | |
| <siccness> how would that confuse anyone? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> It just would. | |
| <siccness> I should run Windows and confuse everyone. | |
| <cafuego_> Davo_Dinkum: I know some people that want to sell a few 14" G4 iBooks | |
| <siccness> I think people are sick of me at TAFE for bagging windows :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> cafuego_: Nahh 12" all the way for me. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: LOL nice | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness: when i ran ubuntu at tafe i was doing what the others were doing with redhat 9 (without being supposed to), in about half the time | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> modern debian > retro redhat ;) | |
| <siccness> It just happens now, because using Linux everything works for me. Using windows everything is a disease | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: It would confuse them because they would probably expect me to be running os x | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: I gotta upgrade one of the TAFE box's to FC6 on Sat | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> "What?! You mean it can run *other* operating systems?!" | |
| <thoreauputic> Davo_Dinkum: and runs faster too | |
| <siccness> Mind you I volunteered, looking forward to seeing how they go about upgrades. Never seen it done before | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness: tafe was even using an old version of centos rather then the latest, because of a bug on centos on teh hardware | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :./ | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: RMIT is all windows :( | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> With crappy dells | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: Heh | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: Yeah our TAFE decides it's best to do a major upgrade of the OS rather than a kernel upgrade for SATA support on their chipset | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness: keep an older version handy - you might have the same issue as my tafe | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: So you tell RMIT to wake up and setup images with dual-boot for Linux | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> And according to the guide for connecting to RMIT's wireless network, the only only non-M$ OS supported is "Mac OS 10.3.3" | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: Yeah, of course. | |
| <siccness> Surpisingly the I.T blokes at my TAFE are pretty intelligent, just the teachers need a good wack in the face | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Davo_Dinkum: add it ot the FSF's list of teaching places that need closed soure | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Oh yeah thanks kamp | |
| <siccness> Took them 5 minutes to work out why the \t in an echo command wouldn't work. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Would swinny fit on that list? | |
| <siccness> I said "read the man page, *cough* -e *cough*" | |
| <siccness> Would Swinny fit wear mate? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> On the FSF's list of naughty unis. | |
| <siccness> There's a heap of blokes that support Open Source at TAFE, just they're all losers | |
| <siccness> So if I went to have a discussion I'd be bored within 10 seconds | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Haha why are they losers? | |
| <siccness> Just simply because they think that a discussion requires the process of spending 2hrs explaining something like "chmod" | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Yeah but is Free Software *officially* supported at swinny? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Pfft | |
| <siccness> Officially? I'm not sure what that means in such a case. But they offer a number of Linux Distributions and applications on their FTP servers | |
| <siccness> They don't support paying for software I can tell you that. 95% of the software we have used has been pirated. | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> LOL | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness: could you not say that.... kthxby | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Pirated? Eh? | |
| <siccness> The government is to be blamed | |
| <thoreauputic> Davo_Dinkum: configured at cutlass point ;) | |
| * Davo_Dinkum fails to see the relationship between software and piracy. | |
| <siccness> We run 2 OS's through VMware on 512mb of RAM | |
| <thoreauputic> ao does /me | |
| <siccness> And when one is Novell 5.1 or 6.5 | |
| <thoreauputic> *so | |
| <siccness> NOT FUN | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Threaten to dob them in and then switch them to only free software. | |
| <siccness> i'm not dobbing my tafe in | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness: heh. your worse then us. at least we get 2 gig of ram | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> *Threaten* | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: Heh | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I wouldn't dob them in either. | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: No because the teacher who supplies all of the software is a champion | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Why? | |
| <siccness> Taught me a hell of a lot about Win2k3serv and novell | |
| <thoreauputic> I told my router manufacurer that nmap says their router runs Linux - could they give me the URL for the source code please ? | |
| <thoreauputic> ( deathly silence) | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> nmap is wrong | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> thoreauputic: Take it to the EFF or SFLC if you have to. | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: possibly | |
| <siccness> nmap guessed three different things three different times wrongly | |
| <siccness> when we tested it | |
| <siccness> it said the OS was Gentoo, then Red Hat and then something else | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: I ran strings on the firmware, but it didn't result in a smoking gun ;) | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <siccness> then again, nmap admits it guessing | |
| <thoreauputic> pity,,, would have been fun to see the code even if I didn't understand it :) | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Damn typo in quit messages. Fix it! | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> no kidding :/ | |
| <siccness> what typo? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> it full of | |
| <siccness> ah yea | |
| <siccness> better yet change it, he's had that for 8 months :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Is it nonfree or non-free? | |
| <siccness> latter | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: It's wrong here then: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/university-wireless.html | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> debian say non-free. (thats all i cansay) | |
| <siccness> I might be wrong then | |
| <siccness> I always thought it was non-whatever | |
| <siccness> and I'll continue to state it as non-whatever | |
| <siccness> because nonwhatever looks crap | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <adhok> well that appeared to work | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <adhok> hey sicc | |
| <siccness> hwy big fella, what's happening mate? | |
| <adhok> my dead hard drive wasn't | |
| <siccness> Eek :| | |
| <adhok> the partition table went walk about | |
| <siccness> WD? | |
| <adhok> raptor | |
| <adhok> the sata cable was not plugged into the MoBo properly!! | |
| <adhok> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <siccness> Always the smallest thing | |
| <adhok> i was freaking out | |
| <adhok> anyway i have a full backup of all my data now =D | |
| <siccness> Something I should probably do one day | |
| <adhok> yeah, most importantly your web browser bookmarks | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> I always forget such | |
| <siccness> I should really backup my /distfiles | |
| <siccness> i can't afford to lose 5gb of software | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> how can i run dpkg with a different debconf ? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> for a 1 off package | |
| <adhok> but you can DL them of the net any time | |
| <siccness> adhok: 10gb file limit | |
| <siccness> s/file/download/ | |
| <adhok> per month? | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <adhok> pffft | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: explode the package with " ar x" or "dpkg -x /path/to/dir" and have a look at the innards I guess | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: theres a way, and it doesnt involve being messy | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: hrmph - dpkg -x isn't messy | |
| <thoreauputic> but OK there's a better way I'm sure :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> # dpkg-reconfigure --priority=medium package [...] <<<<---- | |
| <adhok> is that the apt pinning thing? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhok: no. its changing the amount of questions dpkg will ask when running reconfigure | |
| <adhok> oh | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i need to change it as i'm trying to setup postfix+courier, and i want access to my options :( | |
| <adhok> oh | |
| <adhok> come on, editing the postfix config file by hand isn't hard =) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> the tools exist for a reason :) | |
| <adhok> its not as if you have to learn how mail works in order to setup postfix | |
| <adhok> its when you want to do virtaul domains and user and message rewriting that postfix goes to a whole new level of fscked up ness | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm (aiming to) get fetchmail setup to pull in email, courier-imap to serv it , and magic stuff in between (magic stuff being worked on) | |
| <adhok> what can't you just usr dpkg-reconfigure package? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> because ubuntu changes the debconf to high/critical, so you see SFA of the messages | |
| <adhok> oh, how helpful | |
| <adhok> i suppose thats why its easy to install in the first place | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> correct | |
| <adhok> you don't need to give it any info | |
| <adhok> pfffffft | |
| <adhok> just install exim-light and be done with it | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: Debian is looking better all the time from here :( | |
| <adhok> thats a breeze to install =) | |
| <adhok> *and* configure | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: I have Sid in a chroot and I'm tempted to go back, frankly | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: i'm happy on gnewsense desktops here :), working around the occasional werid ubuntuisms | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhok: and configure, until it hides stuff from you :| | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, but I'm not pure enough for gnewsense :) | |
| <adhok> Kamping_Kaiser: what is the box for? | |
| <adhok> home? | |
| <adhok> hut? | |
| <adhok> png? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: tut tut | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: I'm happy to seed the iso torrents though :) | |
| * adhok is running gnewsense as a desktop | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhok: my desktop. trial running setting up stuff on my desktop before setting up the alpha as a server and doing it there | |
| <adhok> ok ok | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: i dont have them to seed :/ | |
| <adhok> look, just install exim, | |
| <adhok> is a whole lot more fun to play with anyway | |
| <adhok> and the post update config script rox =) | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: well, since i have Optus adsl2+ I figure I might as well upload the universe and annoy them :) | |
| <siccness> Where's your beer, Kampaz? :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhok: 'exim4'? | |
| <adhok> yes | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness: at the bottle shop | |
| <adhok> exim4-light for the desktop | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: since i may as well be on dialup , i cant :P | |
| <adhok> exim4-heavy for the server of more than 10,000 users | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser does -light then | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> phew... close, but i just need light | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: I thought you were on Internode adsl ? | |
| <adhok> thoreauputic: monthly DL limit | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: yes. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> permashaped :( | |
| <siccness> Everybodies got a hungry heart | |
| <thoreauputic> adhoc: right - mine is 14 Gig off peak, 7 Gig peak - but seeding uses almost no downstream bandwidth | |
| * adhok could do with air-con right about now | |
| <siccness> adhok: yeah I'm thinking the same | |
| <siccness> It's not boiling, but very dry | |
| <adhok> its humid and hot here | |
| * adhok is sweating.... dripping | |
| <adhok> drinking | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhok: smarthost=internode? | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <siccness> im sweating, im drinking, hell ill even drip :P | |
| <adhok> Kamping_Kaiser: yes, that works | |
| <adhok> Kamping_Kaiser: and your domain too | |
| <siccness> I was born in the A-U-S! | |
| <siccness> Springsteen! | |
| <adhok> Kamping_Kaiser: so long as your are going to send mail from $USER@internode.on.net | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser reruns dpkg, this time in 'im not an ubuntu user' mode | |
| <siccness> Oh by the way, some half-good news.. | |
| <siccness> My TAFE is thinking of switching from Fedora to Kubuntu | |
| <adhok> siccness: you a bit dislexic or summat? | |
| <siccness> half-good because the word /thinking/ | |
| <adhok> siccness: KDE pain and suffering on rpms to KDE pain and suffering on debs | |
| <siccness> Yeah well they wouldn't take my suggestion of gentoo | |
| <adhok> i see | |
| <adhok> the would have to employ an IT person then? | |
| <adhok> s/the/they/ | |
| <siccness> Yeah, me. | |
| <adhok> ah, cunning plan | |
| <Hit3k_> suggest slackware!!! | |
| <Hit3k_> I know I would | |
| <adhok> pffffffffft | |
| <siccness> I'd rather Kubuntu over Fedora | |
| <adhok> Hit3k_: stop living in the 80s man! | |
| <Hit3k_> fu :p | |
| <adhok> siccness: stop living in the 80s and use something more modern that gentoo | |
| <siccness> Gentoo > * :P | |
| <elkbuntu> rofl | |
| <Hit3k_> Slackware > Gentoo. | |
| <adhok> Hit3k_: hey i started using slackware in 1994! | |
| <siccness> Gentoo > Slackware | |
| * siccness waits for Tatey^2 to come and say: Arch > Gentoo > Slackware | |
| <adhok> 4.3 BSD > Gentoo | |
| <siccness> Gentoo > adhok | |
| <thoreauputic> ed > vi | |
| <siccness> Beat that. | |
| <Tatey^2> Arch > * | |
| <siccness> vi > ed | |
| <adhok> Coopers > VB | |
| <siccness> VB > * | |
| <thoreauputic> notepad > * | |
| <adhok> =P | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <adhok> dd > * | |
| <siccness> ill agree with that | |
| <siccness> mv > right mouse click, rename | |
| <adhok> dd if=/dev/urandom bs=1024k | ssh root@siccs-desktop.isp.net | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> cant get passed my 1024 bit encryption | |
| <adhok> siccness: beware my l33t script fu | |
| <Hit3k_> this is the geekiest conversation that has ever taken place here | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhok: your in charge of dns servers arnt you? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> you could pull a dns reflection attack - peak out at ~50gig/second ;) | |
| <adhok> Kamping_Kaiser: i get to break all the good stuff | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :) | |
| <adhok> there are multiple 10Gbit connections | |
| <siccness> unless your hugh jackman with a gun held to your head while coppin..well you know | |
| <adhok> addrenalin is a strange thing | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <siccness> mixed with pleasure i can imagine :P | |
| * adhok declines to comment. | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <adhok> that movie was fscked up from beginning to end | |
| <siccness> it was worse than anti trust | |
| <adhok> one massive hollowood delusion | |
| <adhok> no actual idea of hacker culture at all | |
| <siccness> hollywood os :) | |
| <adhok> count me out | |
| <siccness> anti trust was funny in a sense tho | |
| <siccness> again open source | |
| <adhok> not seen that | |
| <siccness> yet the company had unix/linux going | |
| <siccness> against* | |
| <adhok> so did the matrix a | |
| <adhok> and jurrassic park | |
| <siccness> yeah but the matrix estabalished it was bullshit from point a | |
| <adhok> ? | |
| <siccness> well it's a sci-fi film | |
| <adhok> the second matrix movie witht he known ssh exploit? | |
| <siccness> dunno, i think i fell asleep after the first one | |
| <adhok> oh | |
| <siccness> there was some stupid rave scene in the second one | |
| <siccness> that bored the crap outta me | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser wonders if hes just done something wrong | |
| <adhok> i have seen them all many times | |
| <adhok> gasp! | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> (running the fetchmail config tool as root) :S | |
| <siccness> If you want to see a GREAT movie, Seven Samurai. | |
| <siccness> (Director: Akira Kurosawa) | |
| <adhok> siccness: you heathen! you didn't like the matrix !?!?!?!?1 | |
| <siccness> Not really | |
| <adhok> siccness: yeah i have't seen that yet | |
| <siccness> You must. | |
| <siccness> It really is perfect | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> The Matrix is awsome, the other two suck | |
| <adhok> i want to, just not been able to find it in a reantal shop | |
| <siccness> Kurosawa is just a genius | |
| <adhok> Kamping_Kaiser: there are great bits in 2&3 | |
| <adhok> siccness: youre in melbourne right?> | |
| <siccness> Of course. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhok: yes, but it doesnt justify their existance | |
| <adhok> you need to go to the melbourne art museumy thingy | |
| <siccness> Nah | |
| <adhok> and see the anime stuff | |
| <siccness> I hate that crap | |
| <adhok> was fantastic! | |
| <adhok> was the guy that did astroboy and other cool stuff | |
| <siccness> The only form of art I really enjoy is film and music | |
| <adhok> hmmmm | |
| <adhok> siccness: theres hope for you yet ;) | |
| <siccness> and there's no music artists left anymore | |
| <adhok> harsh | |
| <siccness> yet true :P | |
| <adhok> perhaps | |
| <adhok> there are some good local bands in adelaide | |
| <siccness> Of course, I didn't mean it to the point. | |
| <siccness> I'm purely having a go at all the little kids who manage to get a record deal from being on "[Insert Country] Idol" | |
| <adhok> pop will eat itself | |
| <adhok> pop hype generates pop hype | |
| <adhok> and the cycle continues | |
| <siccness> Not to mention film is just about dead :| | |
| <siccness> Every year, only a handful of decent films come out | |
| <siccness> Nothing ever revolutionary in the industry | |
| <adhok> pop will eat itself | |
| <siccness> People have to stop seeing the story-line the most important thing in a film | |
| <purserj> pop will always eat itself | |
| <adhok> becasue its really special effects? | |
| <siccness> Shit no. | |
| <adhok> or phantasmal sound track? | |
| <purserj> siccness: film isn't dead | |
| <siccness> You ever seen Snake Eyes? | |
| <adhok> or supper binty performers? | |
| <purserj> yes | |
| <siccness> Boring boring film | |
| <siccness> Look at how wonderful the use of the camera is | |
| <siccness> It's just amazing | |
| <purserj> siccness: a film is a whole of experience | |
| <adhok> never heard of snake eyes | |
| <adhok> when was it made? | |
| <siccness> Nicholas Cage | |
| <siccness> mid 90s iirc | |
| <purserj> amazing camera work can only do so much to hide a boring plot and wooden actors | |
| <siccness> See I disagree there, I could watch that film over and over just to see how differnet, and original the use of the camera is | |
| <adhok> siccness: what did you think of face off? | |
| <siccness> rat shit? | |
| <Hit3k_> is that the one where the guy gets his face ripped off | |
| <elkbuntu> lol | |
| <siccness> not ripped off lol | |
| <adhok> Nicholas Cage and lotsa action | |
| <Hit3k_> damn. what a shame. | |
| <adhok> surgically transferred | |
| <Hit3k_> Ghost Rider looks like a decent movie though | |
| <siccness> to travolta | |
| * adhok used to read ghost rider comics as a kid =) | |
| <siccness> even broken arrow was better than face off | |
| <adhok> not seen that either | |
| <adhok> hey elkbuntu | |
| <adhok> elkbuntu: how you been =) | |
| <elkbuntu> adhoc, busy | |
| <purserj> jerry brukheimer is a one trick pony as a director (he says from the dinner table) | |
| <adhok> oops seriously off topic | |
| <siccness> adhok: check out Aguirre (directed by: Werner Herzog) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> merlin-linux: btw. theres a typo in your sig | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *quit | |
| <adhok> heh | |
| <siccness> Fitzcarraldo too | |
| <Hit3k_> I can tell him what that button does! | |
| <Hit3k_> night lady(ies) and gentlemen | |
| <siccness> weak | |
| <siccness> Night mate | |
| <adhok> night Hit3k_ | |
| <Hit3k> just set away over this end | |
| <merlin-linux> Kamping_Kaiser: huh | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> merlin-linux: there is a typo in your quit message | |
| <merlin-linux> Kamping_Kaiser: oh | |
| <merlin-linux> is it double the | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> no, should be 'its full of' not 'it full of' | |
| <merlin-linux> oh | |
| <adhok> his is just choice ; | |
| <adhok> http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/prod/dialspace/town/green/gfd34/art/ | |
| <adhok> usenet at its finest =D | |
| <kingkarlos> adhoc, Wonder where the 'contact us' box on that page goes to? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> What's the name of the company that makes UPS that starts with A? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> APS? | |
| <praetorian> APC | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> APC! That's it. | |
| <praetorian> cheque made payable to | |
| <praetorian> CASH | |
| <praetorian> mail it to my po box | |
| <praetorian> amount, anything over $70 | |
| <praetorian> thansk! | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Eh? | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> cheapass :P | |
| <praetorian> $90 you reckon? ;-) | |
| <siccness> $100 | |
| <siccness> split it with me | |
| <siccness> $50 a piece | |
| <siccness> i need a slab of bourbon for tomorrow | |
| <siccness> gotta pay for it somehow | |
| <praetorian> mmm | |
| <praetorian> work | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <siccness> no. | |
| <praetorian> insane, but gives money | |
| <praetorian> or | |
| <praetorian> cnr pacific and clarke | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser wondesr how to kill 40 until he goes to bed | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. | |
| *** kgoetz is now known as Bambi_bofh | |
| *** Kamping_Kaiser is now known as kgoetz | |
| *** Bambi_bofh is now known as Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Bye | |
| <waz_> ive just installed beryl on 6.10, and i'd like to be able to preview certain effects, but it seems as though it wont let me... | |
| <waz_> i go to beryl-manager , tinker around, but the effects arent applied... what am i doin wrong :) | |
| <waz_> does anyone know if i dont have a /var/lib when tryin to install mythtv im gonna be in trouble | |
| <TheMuso> Morning all. | |
| <Hit3k> Morning TheMuso | |
| <Hit3k> http://fuhrerchan.be/ma/src/1160204164115.jpg | |
| <suzylee> TheMuso: good morning | |
| <suzylee> Hit3k: morning | |
| <romana> well! | |
| <romana> that was a bit easy | |
| <suzylee> romana: im glad for you :) | |
| <suzylee> romana: how much you paying at internode? | |
| <romana> thx:) | |
| <romana> umm, lets see | |
| <suzylee> per month | |
| <romana> adsl2 | |
| <romana> 40gb/mth limit | |
| <romana> 69.00 | |
| <suzylee> hmm interesting | |
| <romana> the adsl2 makes teh difference, obviously, adsl vanilla much cheaper | |
| <suzylee> i couldnt find such price on their website for 40gig permonth | |
| <suzylee> adsl vanilla? | |
| <romana> hangon, will find for you | |
| <romana> adsl1 | |
| <suzylee> romana: fanx | |
| <suzylee> romana: do they give you free gigs off-peak? | |
| <romana> de nada | |
| <romana> not afaik, but they have an absolutely brilliant full mirror - ubuntu, lots otehr distros, radio, and wireless coverage in adelaide thats damn fine:) | |
| <suzylee> i just signed up with optusnet for $69 per month | |
| <suzylee> 60gb/mth limit | |
| <suzylee> free modem, free setup | |
| <suzylee> and free 2 months | |
| <romana> oops 79 | |
| <romana> is that adsl 2 or adsl 1? | |
| <romana> Min: 1500k/256k | |
| <suzylee> adsl2 | |
| <suzylee> 24,000 | |
| <romana> Max: 24000k/1000k | |
| <romana> thats the speed of adsl2 | |
| <romana> its rather nice:))) | |
| <suzylee> romana: it was rthe best deal I could find | |
| <romana> v nice:) | |
| <suzylee> 60gb/mth limit per month! free modem, free setup, free first 2 months, ADSL2+ , all for just $69 per month :) | |
| <romana> for all that, i would not switch | |
| <suzylee> romana: internode didnt support adsl2+ at my exchange | |
| <suzylee> romana: why not? | |
| * romana <3 the node | |
| <romana> yeah, i grok | |
| <suzylee> u wokr for internode or something ;) | |
| <romana> internode service. reliability. flexibility. LINUX SUPPORT!!!! | |
| <romana> nah. | |
| <suzylee> romana: was it hard to set up on ubuntu? | |
| <romana> been with them for few yrs now, had so much reliability:) | |
| <suzylee> romana: why you need linux support? you have trouble with linux and adsl2? | |
| <romana> oh, i have a nice linksys g that does al that | |
| <suzylee> romana: so why u need linux support then? | |
| <suzylee> what kind of support you need? | |
| <romana> no, no issues. its just nice, when you ring up for the one outage i have had, or the time we were switchign to adsl2 with new modem, and our freebsd server didnt faze anyne | |
| <suzylee> romana: ah yes ok | |
| <romana> and you can have nice chat re linux:) | |
| <suzylee> peace of mind | |
| <suzylee> :) | |
| <romana> othe risps - they dont like | |
| <suzylee> romana: can I ask you with something? | |
| <romana> and the wireless access in city is to die for. hell, theres a cafe at marion, near where i live, that has it. sweet:) | |
| <suzylee> optus doesnt support linux at all :P so now im stuck, maybe you can help me | |
| <suzylee> romana: I loaded edgy, but it doesnt connect to my exchange | |
| <suzylee> any advice? | |
| <romana> oh | |
| <romana> any error msgs? | |
| <romana> popped into whirlpool forums? | |
| <suzylee> no error messages | |
| <suzylee> it simply doesnt connect | |
| <romana> so what happens? | |
| <suzylee> not sure where I am supposed to tell it to connbect uysing my username etc | |
| <suzylee> they dont support linux :P | |
| <romana> what modelmodem?what software are you using? | |
| <romana> is there a sync light? | |
| <suzylee> and they dont support Vista either which was preloaded on my notebook | |
| <suzylee> Siemens | |
| <suzylee> they only sent software for XP | |
| <suzylee> i dont have XP :P | |
| <suzylee> not sure what to do now :( | |
| <suzylee> i should have joined internode eh?:P | |
| <romana> siemens model? | |
| <suzylee> too late now, joined a 2 year contract | |
| <suzylee> yes | |
| <romana> is ok, its what these things are for, lets see what wecan do | |
| <suzylee> romana: should it connect when I load Edgy? | |
| <romana> not unless you have approrpiate software:) | |
| <suzylee> hmm | |
| <suzylee> well seems im stuffed then | |
| <romana> oh not true:) | |
| <romana> just looking at a few howtos | |
| <suzylee> no idea what to do | |
| <suzylee> ok | |
| <romana> http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/optus-ADSL-working-Ubuntu-ftopict268285.html | |
| <romana> you need to ensure PPPoE is up and runningfor a start, if modem doesnt do the work | |
| <romana> what model modem? | |
| <romana> http://www.linuxathome.net/ is also a good resource | |
| <suzylee> romana: ill go read that link. brb | |
| <romana> umm, if you can just tell me yr modem model? | |
| <suzylee> romana: Siemens SpeedStream 4200 modem | |
| <purserj> suzylee: how is the computer connected to the modem? | |
| <suzylee> ethernet | |
| <suzylee> port | |
| <suzylee> it comes with USB port too | |
| <suzylee> should I use USB instead? | |
| <suzylee> purserj: i cannot seem to connect to opstusnet using Xbuntu 6.10 | |
| <suzylee> any advice would be helpful for me | |
| <purserj> suzylee: if its ethernet it should be pretty easy to get running. Do you know what IP address the modem is using? |
