| <cryedwolf> ite thnx | |
| <cryedwolf> ok i got it tnx guys that really helped | |
| <cryedwolf> ^_^ | |
| <neowolf> hello, where would i suggest a change for feisty? | |
| <neowolf> thing i see that is a problem is the difficulty caused by the linux-restricted-modules-* package when trying to install nvidia drivers from the third party installer | |
| <neowolf> its really silly, you end up with a module version mismatch and you can't remove the restricted modules package because that would also remove the kernel | |
| <tsmithe> cryedwolf, no problemo | |
| <tsmithe> neowolf, file a bug report against that package | |
| <neowolf> on launchpad? | |
| <tsmithe> yes | |
| <tsmithe> :) | |
| * popey wonders if filing a big for a 3rd party installer is wise on launchpad | |
| <tsmithe> which? | |
| <popey> 23:15 < neowolf> thing i see that is a problem is the difficulty caused by the linux-restricted-modules-* package when trying to install nvidia drivers from the third party installer | |
| *** chaddy_ is now known as chaddy | |
| <tsmithe> popey, ooh of course | |
| <tsmithe> it's worth a shot, i guess | |
| * popey bets its automatix | |
| <popey> or direct from nvidia website drivers | |
| <popey> or maybe envy | |
| <popey> whatever, non official, non supported | |
| <cryedwolf> hey | |
| <chaddy> lo cryedwolf | |
| <chaddy> how's life treating you? | |
| <cryedwolf> well im pretty happy with ubuntu lol how bout u? | |
| <chaddy> not too bad | |
| <cryedwolf> klkl | |
| <cryedwolf> man u gotta love halfterm | |
| <Seeker`> ah, the joys of half term | |
| <Seeker`> sadly i dont get them any more :( | |
| * tsmithe does! woo! | |
| <cryedwolf> lol this conversation has like 20min intervals lol | |
| <cryedwolf> hi | |
| * Seeker` isnt gonna get long holidays again :( | |
| <cryedwolf> how come? | |
| <Seeker`> next year is my last year at uni | |
| <Seeker`> i'm on placement this year, so i only get 4 weeks this year | |
| <Seeker`> i'll probably have 10 weeks next year | |
| <Seeker`> and after that i'll probably only get 4-5 weeks / year until i retire | |
| <Seeker`> which, at the rate the government is going, will be 75 by the time i get there | |
| <cryedwolf> =/ woh | |
| <bugbot> New on planetuk: Caroline Ford: Update <http://secretlondon.livejournal.com/123913.html> | |
| <popey> welcome to the real world Sionide | |
| <popey> bugger | |
| <mrben> morning all | |
| <GazzaK> morning mrben AlexLatchford CieD and diocles | |
| <AlexLatchford> Morning :) | |
| <diocles> Morning. | |
| <CieD> mornin' :) | |
| <popey> morning all | |
| <popey> hows GazzaK ? | |
| <popey> (welcome back) | |
| <GazzaK> morning popey | |
| <GazzaK> I'm good - just about sorted out all my emails! | |
| <GazzaK> house move went well | |
| <popey> \o/ | |
| * popey waits for the invite to the house burning party | |
| <popey> s/burning/warming | |
| <GazzaK> eeek | |
| <GazzaK> i'm not inviting you, if thats what you will do | |
| <GazzaK> :p | |
| <GazzaK> it's bad enough that the cat ran across a freshly painted window sill, getting nice white paws | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <GazzaK> I'm not getting interweb till 14th :'( | |
| <GazzaK> I've missed you so much | |
| <popey> we missed you too GazzaK | |
| <GazzaK> awwww | |
| <popey> there was very little innuendo, no asking about fit workmates, and very little use of the bot to pity people | |
| <GazzaK> I pity you're bot too | |
| <GazzaK> your^ | |
| <GazzaK> I bought a Mac Mini on Saturday :-) | |
| <popey> oh dear | |
| <popey> I bought a wii last week | |
| <popey> we are even :) | |
| <GazzaK> I am buying a 42" plasma this weekend :-) | |
| <GazzaK> oh and I ordered my bedroom fitment | |
| <popey> i am getting rid of my 42" plasma | |
| <popey> going to get an lcd instead | |
| <popey> probably a sony bravia | |
| <GazzaK> http://www.kearley.net/pages/new-home.php | |
| <GazzaK> why are you getting rid of it? | |
| <popey> because its crap | |
| <popey> worst telly i have ever owned | |
| <popey> can't believe I deviated from Sony | |
| <GazzaK> why, what is it? | |
| <popey> Philips | |
| * GazzaK is worried | |
| <GazzaK> what do you find crap about it? | |
| <popey> the user interface is awful | |
| <popey> there is no auto switching on the ports on the back | |
| <GazzaK> ahh, yeah, philips UI is poop | |
| <GazzaK> the one i'm looking at is a Hitachi 42" - it's like £999 and seems very good value for money | |
| <GazzaK> how much did you want for the philips popey ? | |
| <popey> dunno really | |
| <popey> not thought about it | |
| <GazzaK> well, if you think about a price before friday give me a yell popey | |
| <popey> you might be interested? | |
| <popey> it's HD ready, integrated digital yadda yadda | |
| <GazzaK> does it have hdmi ports? (how many) and scarts (how many) and any others? | |
| <popey> 2xscart, dunno about hdmi, not used them | |
| <GazzaK> and what resolution can I get the mac to display at on it? (some are 1024x768, some are 1366x768) | |
| <popey> will dig out manual | |
| <GazzaK> okay | |
| <popey> not today tho | |
| <GazzaK> okay | |
| <GazzaK> :p | |
| <Seeker`> morning | |
| <Seeker`> wb GazzaK | |
| <GazzaK> cheers Seeker` | |
| <GazzaK> the move went well | |
| <Seeker`> hows the new house? | |
| * Seeker` found a new house over the weekend | |
| <GazzaK> the new place is great, 10 min to work via the petrol station for ciggies :-) | |
| <GazzaK> and the heating is wicked (it's like a sauna) | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, where abouts? | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: Bath, but I wont be moving in till at least august | |
| <jayteeuk> Morning all. | |
| <kikiwitch> hi | |
| <jayteeuk> Anything new in the world over the weekend? | |
| <bugbot> New on planetuk: Nik Butler: The Critical Mass. <http://www.loudmouthman.com/2007/02/12/the-critical-mass/> | |
| <jayteeuk> brb | |
| * Seeker`_ kicks his works connection | |
| *** Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker` | |
| *** Mez_ is now known as Mez | |
| <bugbot> New on planetuk: Steve Garton (sheepeatingtaz): Not A Rosy Vista <http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk/blog/2007/02/12/not-a-rosy-vista/> | |
| <popey> \o/ sheepeatingtaz | |
| <popey> Vista! Just say no! | |
| * Seeker` was helping someone do something with windows media player last night. | |
| <tsmithe> urgh | |
| <Seeker`> Apparently its not good enough that, when describing stuff from memory, telling them to look for "wma" instead of "windows media audio" isn't good enough | |
| <tsmithe> popey, the new launchpad is nice! | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <Seeker`> new launchpad? | |
| <jayteeuk> Yes, I keep seeing references to "New Launchpad" but I'm not sure what's changed? | |
| <popey> you have to sign up to the beta | |
| <popey> see http://beta.launchpad.net/ | |
| <jayteeuk> Ah, I see. That'd explain it then. :) | |
| <popey> looks much nicer, some formatting errors remain | |
| <Seeker`> DaveMorris: lo. Did you try the bot? | |
| <tsmithe> popey, launchpad-users is the place to discuss, right? | |
| <popey> its the only launchpad mailing list on lists.ubuntu.com so I guess so | |
| <tsmithe> k cool | |
| <constrictor> hello | |
| <Seeker`> hi | |
| <constrictor> another monday ::sigh:: | |
| <jayteeuk> Just think constrictor, only five days till the weekend. :) | |
| <constrictor> that is the most positive thing i have heard all year | |
| <GazzaK> it's monday, damnit, I should be at work | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: why aren;t you? | |
| * GazzaK giggles | |
| <GazzaK> yeah | |
| <GazzaK> I was kidding | |
| <constrictor> talk about job satisfaction Gazzak | |
| <constrictor> you don't even feel like you're at work | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, my work is playing with computers all day and telling people no, it's grrrrreat | |
| <constrictor> what do you do? | |
| * tsmithe has half term suckz0rs | |
| <mrben> /kickban tsmithe smug bastard | |
| <GazzaK> I am the IT dude at a very boring place | |
| <mrben> I am the very bored dude at an IT place | |
| <GazzaK> tsmithe, go clean your room | |
| <tsmithe> yeah, i really should do that... | |
| <tsmithe> you could always, erm *cough*donate*cough* to make me do it fas... oh wait you already did.... /me gets right on it | |
| <GazzaK> mrben, mine is construction, I get to watch cute (or not so cute mostly) builders all day, ala diet coke advert | |
| <GazzaK> lol @ tsmithe | |
| <mrben> GazzaK: wait - are you a bird^W lady? | |
| <GazzaK> no mrben I'm the resident poofta | |
| <tsmithe> *silence* hehe | |
| <GazzaK> tumbleweed.popey.com I think | |
| <tsmithe> haha yeah | |
| <tsmithe> hi cryedwolf | |
| <cryedwolf> oh hi how are you? | |
| <GazzaK> !hi | cryedwolf | |
| <ubotu> cryedwolf: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! | |
| <GazzaK> :-) | |
| <cryedwolf> ^_^ | |
| <Seeker`> lunchtime :D | |
| <cryedwolf> oops forgot bout lunch havent even had brekfast | |
| <cryedwolf> lol | |
| <constrictor> yeah i'm hungry too | |
| <constrictor> interesting as i ate about 3 minutes ago | |
| * tsmithe too.. | |
| * popey had vegimite on toast for brekkie | |
| <popey> vegimite > marmite | |
| <GazzaK> ewww | |
| <popey> pfft | |
| <popey> trust you to be "different" :0 | |
| <tsmithe> marmite == ewww too | |
| <GazzaK> marmite is horrid popey | |
| <popey> heathens! | |
| <tsmithe> it's ok when it's in twiglets tho | |
| <popey> marmite sticks! | |
| <GazzaK> I'm not gonna tickle your tonsils after you have eaten one of them | |
| <popey> \o/ | |
| <popey> like garlic for vampires | |
| <popey> marmite keeps GazzaKs away | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| * jayteeuk chuckles at scrollback. | |
| <jayteeuk> tumbleweed.popey.com :) | |
| <popey> marmite is lovely | |
| <popey> http://fact.popey.com/ | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <jayteeuk> I agree. | |
| <snail> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuartyeates/386469307/ snowy oxford. currently rainy oxford | |
| <jayteeuk> I've never tried vegimite though. | |
| <tsmithe> woo | |
| <tsmithe> snow | |
| <popey> vegimite is smoother | |
| * tsmithe puts up his photo of snowy kent | |
| <popey> not as harsh as marmite (IMO) | |
| <tsmithe> and it doesn't have animals in it | |
| <snail> tsmithe: url? | |
| <jayteeuk> I thought Marmite was veggie-friendly? | |
| <jayteeuk> It's just yeast extract isn't it? | |
| <popey> i think he means the picture, not marmie | |
| <jayteeuk> Ah, OK. :) | |
| <alecjw> jayteeuk, and salt, which may contain traces of animal and/or nut | |
| <tsmithe> popey, no i meant vegimite :P | |
| * tsmithe gets the link | |
| <tsmithe> don't have many pics on flickr | |
| <popey> oh | |
| <popey> sorry | |
| <popey> is that why its called vegimite? | |
| <popey> </ignorant> | |
| <tsmithe> :P | |
| <tsmithe> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tsmithe/386758031/ | |
| <snail> popey: because it's vegetarian | |
| <alecjw> popey, what's with the ranomobject.popey.com...... | |
| <popey> heh alecjw | |
| <popey> it all started.. some time ago | |
| <popey> in #hants on irc.lug.org.uk | |
| <popey> someone told a joke, so I uploaded a picture of some drums to my webspace, http://www.popey.com/joke.jpg | |
| <alecjw> all of my doubts about "a geeik through and through" are fading | |
| <popey> and paste that | |
| <popey> it used to get shortened to wpc/j | |
| <popey> because people couldn't be arsed to type the whole url | |
| <popey> (google for wpc/j) | |
| <popey> then I setup a subdomain for joke.popey.com | |
| <popey> to make it easier, so people then started saying jpc | |
| <alecjw> oh good lord | |
| <GazzaK> you geek | |
| <popey> it spread to other channels, i heard about people in #lugradio and other private irc channels | |
| <popey> there is also tarby. handbag. tumbleweed. fact. | |
| <popey> and others I have forgotten | |
| <alecjw> lol | |
| * GazzaK goes off in search of the lunch | |
| <popey> oh, there is acf. and ftw. and muppet. too | |
| <alecjw> popey, i'm gonna have to disagree with that I'm a pc, i'm a mac and i'm linux hting on your website.... pc and mac should be the other way round, and linux should eba mixture of the two...... | |
| <popey> then you agree with me! | |
| <popey> I am not saying that picture is accurate, quite the opposite | |
| <popey> that it is an image problem | |
| <alecjw> do i? | |
| <popey> well I agree with you | |
| <popey> my point was that linux has an image problem | |
| <alecjw> oh yes | |
| <alecjw> i ididnt read the ittiel | |
| <tsmithe> duh | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <alecjw> if you didint read the title, it reads as if oyu agree with the image | |
| * popey hands alecjw a tip | |
| <snail> popey: sure linux has an image problem, photoshop doesn't run on linux... (jpc) | |
| <popey> "read the title" | |
| <popey> ah, now here's where you have broken the rules snail | |
| <popey> you can't jpc yourself | |
| <popey> others have to determine if your j is jpc worthy | |
| <popey> thems the rules man | |
| <popey> Don't hate the game, hate the player. | |
| <alecjw> popey, why's MSN before jabber in the "contact me" page???? shame on you! | |
| * snail pours his hate out on the other players | |
| <alecjw> Price.Child, made the smae mistake.... | |
| * tsmithe hates popey cos he's the player | |
| * jayteeuk hasn't been contactable on MSN for a couple of weeks now. | |
| <jayteeuk> I had to kill my PyMSN-t cos it was constantly logging me in and out. | |
| <jayteeuk> Has anyone done a dist-upgrade from Debian Sarge to Ubuntu Dapper? | |
| <jayteeuk> I'm strongly considering switching my two remaining Debian servers to Ubuntu. | |
| <jayteeuk> Maybe a clean install would be better? | |
| <tsmithe> depends | |
| <tsmithe> have you got it set up how you like | |
| <jayteeuk> Yep. | |
| <jayteeuk> Which is really why I was considering the dist-upgrade path. | |
| <popey> personally I wouldn't go debian --> ubuntu | |
| <popey> I would either leave it debian or reinstall ubuntu | |
| <jayteeuk> My "messing about" boxes that didn't have anything on there I really needed to keep, I just did a clean install on. | |
| <popey> my mailserver runs debian, I dont see myself changing that any time soon | |
| <popey> it works | |
| <alecjw> popey, in response to "linux has an image problem", http://alecjw.no-ip.org/home/yay.jpg <---- linux user | |
| <alecjw> we need moreo fthose sort of peopel | |
| <tsmithe> who's that? | |
| <alecjw> that person converted 13 people within a week of starting using ubuntu | |
| <popey> http://popey.com/webcam/webcam.jpg or those :) | |
| <popey> thats me :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Very nearly an unfortunate typo there alecjw. :) | |
| <alecjw> tsmithe, a friend of mine | |
| <tsmithe> aha | |
| * tsmithe hides from the scary popey | |
| <popey> scary, me? | |
| <popey> nahhhh | |
| <tsmithe> yahhhh | |
| <alecjw> AAAAAGH! IT'S POPEY, BUT LIVE | |
| <GazzaK> scary - popey - hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | |
| <alecjw> and your system cliocks wrong | |
| <GazzaK> jpc | |
| <alecjw> it's saying it's saturday | |
| <popey> thats when it was taken :) | |
| <popey> it was right then | |
| <alecjw> oh.... i thought it was live | |
| <popey> i just tried to start the cam but it is at home and I am at work | |
| <GazzaK> popey, have you had a shave since? | |
| <popey> it is plugged into usb1.1 which I think it doesn't like | |
| <popey> yes GazzaK | |
| <alecjw> not fair.... you have ap rojector screen nad there foer a working projhector....... | |
| <popey> this morning | |
| <alecjw> *therefore | |
| <alecjw> grrrrr | |
| <popey> who? | |
| <popey> me? | |
| <alecjw> yes | |
| <alecjw> theres a projector screen in the background | |
| <popey> the pic was taken at the Hampshire linux user group meet | |
| <popey> at Southampton University | |
| <alecjw> oh | |
| <alecjw> i have a broken thuird hand projector :( | |
| <GazzaK> alecjw, I have a unused one here, mwhahahaa | |
| <alecjw> loads of soot and plastic vapours come out of hte cooling fan, only its svideo input works and half of its pixels are dead..... | |
| <tsmithe> why is bzr eatin up my megabitez??? | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> popey: you \o/'d? | |
| <alecjw> i think the soot is because i got the hottest part of the lamp covered in fingerprintes | |
| <GazzaK> oops | |
| <tsmithe> " PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND | |
| <tsmithe> 10983 toby 25 0 121m 117m 3444 R 81.7 11.7 4:08.22 bzr " | |
| <popey> sheepeatingtaz: you choosing to not support vista | |
| <tsmithe> stoopid thing | |
| <popey> good man | |
| <alecjw> what do people recon would happen if i put a piece of paper in my projectors lamp and switcfhed it on? | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> popey: gotcha. Have to say though, Lisa's words: "By saying you will only work with what you use, aren't you as bad as microsoft" | |
| <popey> how so? | |
| <tsmithe> no - cos anyone can use ubuntu | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> See, I need you guys when people ask me things! | |
| <popey> and i will gladly convert people from windows to ubuntu | |
| <popey> give them help migrating settings | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> I said that too! | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> All of our wedding invites have been done in OpenOffice though. Lisa Hated the Office 2007 Beta on her system, and asked for 'What I Use" | |
| <GazzaK> am I evil to stop supporting my parents and their illegal windows/office home computer? | |
| <tsmithe> no | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> I think you are a little, GazzaK | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> maybe | |
| <jayteeuk> No. | |
| <jayteeuk> IMHO. | |
| <tsmithe> GazzaK, | |
| <tsmithe> Don't copy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xfqkdh5Js4 | |
| <constrictor> back at the office | |
| <GazzaK> I helped set it up, and she insisted on office, but a year or so later, and she will not install openoffice or even try ubintu | |
| <GazzaK> ubuntu, so I have decided to offer less help with her machine | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> A Little evil then, or 'Tough Love' | |
| <GazzaK> tough love I think it is sheepeatingtaz | |
| <GazzaK> mrben, did I scare you? | |
| <tsmithe> haha | |
| <tsmithe> he still hasn't spoken | |
| <Seeker`> popey: Any idea how much karma you get for doing specs in launchpad | |
| <popey> nope | |
| <popey> more than none | |
| <popey> less than loads | |
| <popey> is my estimate | |
| <tsmithe> popey gets too much karma | |
| <popey> i fully expect others to overtake me soon | |
| <popey> as I havent done much recently | |
| <tsmithe> that's just modesty | |
| <popey> no, honest | |
| <popey> october to december I went nuts, did loads of support tickets | |
| <popey> january i slowed down | |
| <popey> this month i haven't done a tremendous amount because others seem to be getting to them before me :) | |
| <popey> which is great! | |
| <GazzaK> and the points decrease over time | |
| <popey> yus | |
| <popey> so people who do stuff now will climb the ranking | |
| <GazzaK> excellent systems imho | |
| <GazzaK> until you get bored with work again popey and go off on a ticket spree | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <Seeker`> popey: will you be wanting mootbot tonight? | |
| <GazzaK> national keep GazzaK out of the topic week? when, this week, or last? | |
| <Seeker`> last week, i think | |
| <popey> not for the first meet Seeker`, thanks | |
| <GazzaK> as I was off with no internet - you are cruel :p | |
| <popey> every week GazzaK | |
| <Seeker`> popey: Will you be using it for future meetings? | |
| <GazzaK> but popey, after I did that to you!!! | |
| <popey> i don't know Seeker`, but I would like to start with the subject being the agenda, i don't want to waste time in our first meet having to explain what mootbot is and what it is there fore | |
| <GazzaK> who's first meeting? | |
| <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/Meeting | |
| <GazzaK> owwww, shiny | |
| <alecjw> popey, i think i'll make a screencast about customising beryl, but i CBA with a virtual machine. is there any way of screencasting in 3d at a sensible frame rate without a VM? | |
| <popey> vnc? | |
| <Seeker`> popey: OMG! You have dirtied my inbox with two emails on the same subject :O | |
| <alecjw> hmmmm | |
| * popey farts on Seeker` | |
| <Seeker`> ... | |
| <popey> \o/ dots | |
| <alecjw> popey, how do i film someting over vnc? i usually use istanbul screen recorder, but it can only record at about 1FPS in 3d.... | |
| <alecjw> isnt there somethign called jokosha or something? | |
| <popey> have you read our faq? | |
| <popey> xvidcap is what I use | |
| <snail> does anyone know whether there's been any work to integrate scrollkeeper with backup utilities, so I'm not backing up the OS, just the important bits? | |
| <alecjw> popey, doesnt it only work with a VM?> | |
| <popey> no | |
| <popey> xvidcap is like istanbul | |
| <popey> only better | |
| <alecjw> ok | |
| <popey> you would vnc to the machine running beryl, and record the vnc client window | |
| <popey> you are of course free to record screencasts however you choose, but we have quite high standards for them to be included on the site | |
| <popey> so if the fps is crud or the demo is choppy or whatever it may not be included | |
| <popey> the "CBA" worries me a little, I would rather people could be bothered :) | |
| <popey> lunch | |
| <constrictor> hiv vaccine? | |
| <constrictor> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6342575.stm | |
| <snail> constrictor: been in the pipeline for a while, but there have been many promising looking silver bullets that have failed at this stage | |
| <constrictor> awww man | |
| <constrictor> i thought i could get my jack rabbit days on again | |
| <mrben> popey: heh - you get a plug in todays LR | |
| <popey> oh? | |
| <popey> for the BoF at LRL? | |
| <mrben> no | |
| <mrben> email section | |
| <mrben> "need help setting up a LUG" "talk to popey on #lugradio" | |
| <mrben> ;) | |
| <popey> haha | |
| <GazzaK> popey, talking about lug's, I'm now in a position to think more about doing the colchester.lug | |
| <constrictor> http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/89211756/article.pl | |
| <constrictor> i have a dell guys, i need to insure my place | |
| <GazzaK> ask dell for third party insurance details? | |
| <constrictor> LOL | |
| <GazzaK> my drive to work this morning was so nice | |
| <popey> How can it possibly have been? I wasn't there! | |
| <GazzaK> well, thats one reason it was so nice | |
| <GazzaK> but the main reason was it was only ten min - with a stop off at the shop to get ciggies | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: Or 5 mins and £5 cheaper without the stop? | |
| <GazzaK> well 2 min and £5 cheaper | |
| <GazzaK> still it is very nice being 7-10 min away | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: Do you spend £5 / day? | |
| * popey is working 10 mins from home at the moment too | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, nope | |
| <Seeker`> how much do you spend a week? | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, you sound like my mother :p I'm giving up very soon, infact I did nto mean to buy any, but forgot this morning, but I normally smoke less than 10 a day | |
| <GazzaK> and yes, I do know that equals £xxxx a year | |
| <Seeker`> where x is quite a lot? | |
| <GazzaK> yeah | |
| <popey> are you allowed to smoke at your desk? | |
| <GazzaK> popey, nope | |
| * Seeker` would be quite worried if he sounded like GazzaK's mother | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: You smoke inside your nice shiny new house/ | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, so far, kitchen only, as it is being painted, once it is decorated I refuse to smoke inside it | |
| <GazzaK> so even if I am weak and fail to stop by then, I WILL NOT smoke indoors | |
| <GazzaK> so I'll get wet and cold, and that will make me give up | |
| <GazzaK> trust me, I will not smoke in the house once I have decorated it, and no, that doesn't mean i'll take five years to do the decorating! | |
| * Seeker` cant see why people stand outside in the wind / rain just for a cigarette | |
| <GazzaK> me neither | |
| <GazzaK> but I do at work | |
| <GazzaK> and think of myself as a total prat while doing it | |
| * Seeker` has managed to go for over 20.5 years without a cigarette | |
| <GazzaK> I did a year and a half, then in part due to a really bad patch with a good mate dying I started again | |
| * Seeker` is 21 in july :P | |
| * popey is 35 in april :( | |
| <Seeker`> i've never smoked a cigarette in my life | |
| <GazzaK> i'm 30 ten days ago! eeek | |
| * Seeker` doesn't see the point in trying something that will drain his money and probably kill him | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, \o/ | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: If you dont mind me asking, why did you start smoking/ | |
| <GazzaK> blame me parents | |
| <GazzaK> they both smoked, I started due to "borrowing" theirs | |
| <Seeker`> how old were you? | |
| <GazzaK> 11 | |
| <popey> ! | |
| <GazzaK> it was "cool" | |
| <popey> I blame the parents :) | |
| <GazzaK> yeah | |
| <popey> and the cigarette companies | |
| <GazzaK> they give me so much grief over it now though | |
| <GazzaK> since they gave up in the last few years | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: Has it had an effect on your health yet? | |
| <GazzaK> maybe | |
| <popey> clearly, he's talking to us! | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| <Seeker`> heh | |
| <Seeker`> popey: The lack of oxygen to his brain has confuddled him, so he ended up here | |
| <popey> clearly | |
| <popey> either that or we are a lovely bunch of people to talk to whilst he is bored witless at work | |
| <Seeker`> hmmm | |
| <popey> yeah, scratch that idea | |
| <Seeker`> i think the first option is more likely | |
| <Seeker`> :P | |
| <Seeker`> popey: When will the location of the next hants lug meeting be announced? | |
| <popey> dunno | |
| * popey edits the lug wiki | |
| * tsmithe edits the ubuntustudio wiki | |
| * GazzaK edits popey | |
| * popey reverts GazzaK | |
| <Seeker`> in soviet russia, wiki reverts you!! | |
| <popey> funnily enough in another channel.. | |
| <popey> 14:08 * tonytiger edits popey | |
| <popey> 14:08 * tonytiger removes the distasteful bits | |
| <popey> 14:08 * popey reverts tonytiger | |
| <tsmithe> haha | |
| <Seeker`> heh | |
| <Seeker`> blah | |
| <popey> bloo | |
| <jayteeuk> No, I use a different kind of rim block. | |
| <jayteeuk> It doesn't make my toilet water go a funny colour, just smells nice and makes bubbles. | |
| <GazzaK> just use bleach instead of water, that works nice | |
| <jamesbrose> is it just me, or does beryl 1.999..... crash X etc.. when you login? | |
| <tsmithe> just you :) | |
| <jamesbrose> darn | |
| * tsmithe really likes the new launchpad | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <Gargoyle> Anyone else had any problems with a nforce mobo and a geforce 7300 gfx card? | |
| <popey> i have an nforce and 7900GT Gargoyle | |
| <popey> what problems? | |
| <Gargoyle> nv driver does not display (I can hear sounds in the background) and the nvidia driver seems to lock up the system. | |
| <popey> screwy screen res or refresh rate? | |
| <popey> where are you getting the nvidia driver from? | |
| <Gargoyle> refresh rate I think. The monitor menu shows the correct res (1280x1024). | |
| <Gargoyle> popey: apt-get install nvidia-glx | |
| <popey> ok, cool | |
| <popey> not using automatix or the 3rd party nvidia drivers? | |
| <Gargoyle> nahh | |
| <popey> good man | |
| <Gargoyle> just updating the system via the recovery option at the mo. | |
| <popey> VertRefresh | |
| <popey> in xorg.conf | |
| <popey> mine is set to 50.0 - 75.0 | |
| <Gargoyle> I tried the amd64 DVD this morning and had the same problem. | |
| <Gargoyle> now using the std cd | |
| <popey> had a problem with a LUG members system which had 50-120 on saturday, changed it and it worked | |
| <Gargoyle> OK. Updates almost done... don't run off anywhere :) | |
| <popey> hahah | |
| * popey goes for a poo | |
| <popey> brb | |
| <GazzaK> nice, thanks for that info popey | |
| <Gargoyle> I had beryl working for 10 mins this morning, but it locked up also. | |
| <Gargoyle> could be a broken gfx card? | |
| <popey> \o/ | |
| * popey returns | |
| <Gargoyle> :) | |
| * popey washed his hands | |
| <Gargoyle> It's official. popey can poo faster than apt-get upgrade on a amd64 x2 :) | |
| <popey> hahah | |
| <popey> I want that on my tombstone | |
| <popey> do you have any whacky beryl related stuff in xorg.conf still? | |
| <Gargoyle> nahh, | |
| <Gargoyle> clean install | |
| <Gargoyle> OK, in my Device section I have identifier, driver (nvidia) and Bus. Do I need any options? | |
| <Gargoyle> I have no refresh rates defined in Monitor! | |
| <popey> HorizSync 30.0 - 94.0 | |
| <popey> VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0 | |
| <popey> thats what i have | |
| <popey> also, on my laptop which has a 6800Go I have... | |
| <popey> Section "Extensions" | |
| <popey> Option "Composite" "Disable" | |
| <popey> EndSection | |
| <Gargoyle> Any options you recommend adding to device? | |
| <Gargoyle> RenderAccel? | |
| <Gargoyle> trying reboot! | |
| <popey> one mo | |
| <popey> Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" | |
| <popey> Option "RenderAccel" "True" | |
| <popey> on my desktop (7900GT) | |
| <Gargoyle> Made a typo - oops... rebooting again! | |
| <Gargoyle> It's locked up again! | |
| <Gargoyle> :( | |
| <popey> I'd say get it working with nv first | |
| <Gargoyle> ok | |
| <Gargoyle> what's the latest kernel version? | |
| <popey> what version of ubuntu? | |
| <Gargoyle> 6.10 | |
| <popey> 2.6.17 something | |
| <popey> feisty has 2.6.20 | |
| * popey is running feisty on his nvidia machines | |
| <popey> both using nvidia driver | |
| <Gargoyle> might download that! | |
| <popey> its pretty good | |
| <Gargoyle> stable? | |
| <popey> probably just as quick to upgrade to it :) | |
| <txwikinger> dabber has 2.6.15-27 | |
| <Gargoyle> I got crazy refresh! | |
| <Gargoyle> can I use UseEdidFreqs with nv driver? | |
| <popey> pass | |
| <Gargoyle> How do I upgrade to feisty via command line? | |
| <Gargoyle> Just change all occurances of edgy to feisty in sources.list? | |
| <Gargoyle> all two of them! ;) | |
| <twager> Gargoyle: What vid card do you have ? | |
| <Gargoyle> 7300 le | |
| <Gargoyle> any ideas before I hit enter on this dist-upgrade? | |
| <twager> Ok..I have a 5500 and it freezes when I use the nvidia driver | |
| <Gargoyle> ahh | |
| <twager> I upgraded the other day with gksu "update-manager -c" | |
| <popey> Gargoyle: I would do a -d dist-upgrade | |
| <constrictor> GTK baby | |
| <Gargoyle> eeek. already running. What does -d do? | |
| <popey> download only | |
| <popey> you can kill it | |
| <popey> if it is downloading | |
| <popey> but not if it is installing | |
| <Gargoyle> ok | |
| <Gargoyle> got -d in there now! | |
| <constrictor> i finally went down the GK route | |
| <constrictor> and using glade seems very simple | |
| <tsmithe> whatcha doing? | |
| <GazzaK> wassnt me | |
| <tsmithe> hehe | |
| <lllama> Afternoon all. Can anyone offer some tips on why my wireless card is detected, the driver loaded but the device unavailable? | |
| <popey> what device? | |
| <lllama> the network interface. I.e. there's no eth1 or similar | |
| <popey> what wireless device? | |
| <popey> make/model | |
| <lllama> sorry. centrino. 3945ABG | |
| <popey> does iwconfig not show the device? | |
| <lllama> nope. lo, eth0 (wired) and sit0. | |
| <Gargoyle> oops! Closed the wrong window. | |
| <popey> what version of ubuntu lllama ? | |
| <lllama> 6.10. | |
| <popey> http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/ seen that? | |
| <Gargoyle> popey: Will this dist-upgrade grab new nvidia drivers too? | |
| <popey> if you have them installed, yes Gargoyle | |
| <lllama> popey, nope. Will take a look. | |
| <lllama> hmm. What's the best way to see which version of the driver I've got installed? | |
| <popey> modinfo | |
| <popey> if it is a kernel module of course | |
| <lllama> cool. looks like there's a later version available. I'll give it a go. | |
| <mrben> \o/ | |
| <mrben> another happy punter | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <lllama> Thanks for the help. First reboot... | |
| <popey> \o/ | |
| * mrben notices lllama is in #django too | |
| <mrben> wb Lllama | |
| <Lllama> Success. It was my bad in the end. | |
| <mrben> well - at least it's sorted | |
| <mrben> Lllama: you a djangonaut? saw you disconnect on #django | |
| <Lllama> True. Yep, I do django. | |
| <mrben> cool | |
| * mrben likewise | |
| <Lllama> Needed restricted modules image. Driver being loaded confused me. | |
| <mrben> ah | |
| <constrictor> gotta bounce | |
| <constrictor> i'm tired already and i have uni tomorrow | |
| <Lllama> Right, well the network's up. Thanks again. | |
| * jayteeuk gradually pulls out of the post-lunch slump with the aid of a quick powernap and a cup of strong tea. | |
| <txwikinger> bad.. feisty has an intereting bug | |
| <jayteeuk> Is that "interesting" like in "Interesting Times"? | |
| <txwikinger> interesting like,,, oops.. I hope the message there is not serious | |
| <txwikinger> I just ran the install with manual partitioning | |
| <txwikinger> I put swap in partition 5 on hda and / on partition 3 on hdd | |
| <txwikinger> it told me then it would reformat partition 3 on hdd and partition 5 on hdd | |
| <txwikinger> there is no partition 5 on hdd | |
| <jayteeuk> Ack. :S | |
| <txwikinger> I think it just prints out the same hd-id for all | |
| <txwikinger> I didn't dare to try it out :-D | |
| <txwikinger> I just unchecked to format the swap | |
| <jayteeuk> That's one to be ironed out before release. | |
| <txwikinger> I will have a look if it already exists otherwise file it | |
| <chaddy> txwikinger: when you say there is no parition 5 do you mean you have 4 or less partitions? | |
| <txwikinger> I have only 3 partitions on hdd I have 5 on hda | |
| <chaddy> ahh, sorry, misread | |
| <txwikinger> so yes I have extended partition on hda but not on hdd if that is what you were looking for | |
| <chaddy> ;-) | |
| <alecjw> hi PriceChild | |
| <PriceChild> hey alecjw | |
| <alecjw> were you there in #ubutnu-uk this mornign when i was talkign aobut the person whos converted 13 peopel to ubuntu? | |
| <alecjw> in about a week | |
| <txwikinger> converted? Is this some kind of cult here? ;-) | |
| <alecjw> lol | |
| <alecjw> yes, it's a religion | |
| <popey> On Software freedom Day last year I was in London giving out ubuntu CDs, some guy asked if it was a cult | |
| <popey> i just started laughing | |
| <alecjw> lol | |
| <popey> he couldn't understand why people would give up their own time to do this | |
| <apokryphos> funny. Whereabouts in London? | |
| <popey> TCR | |
| <apokryphos> cool | |
| <apokryphos> how many? | |
| * Seeker` likes that area | |
| <popey> how many CDs? | |
| <popey> 150 odd | |
| <apokryphos> yeah | |
| <apokryphos> cool. Gone quickly? | |
| <txwikinger> I think people were asking WIlberforce the same :-D | |
| <popey> very | |
| <apokryphos> any people stay around to talk? | |
| <popey> within 1.5 hours | |
| <popey> some did, some came to the GLLUG meet too | |
| <popey> there is a write up somewhere.. | |
| <apokryphos> awesome | |
| <apokryphos> if you're ever doing it again, please let me know; I'd be glad to drop by and help | |
| <popey> http://www.gllug.org.uk/index.php?/archives/25-Review-Software-Freedom-Day.html | |
| <popey> happens every year :) | |
| <apokryphos> nice; didn't know about it | |
| <popey> about SFD? | |
| <txwikinger> Is it only happening in London or also in other cities ? | |
| <popey> all around the world | |
| <apokryphos> popey: is your LUG mainly ubuntu? | |
| <popey> Software freedom day is a global thing | |
| <popey> define my lug :) | |
| <popey> my local lug is hampshire | |
| <popey> but I am signed up to most LUG mailing lists in the UK | |
| <apokryphos> the GLLUG | |
| <popey> GLLUG isn't my local, but i decided to go there because nothing much was happening in my local lug | |
| <alecjw> is there a lsit of LUGs anywhere? | |
| <popey> alecjw: lug.org.uk | |
| <txwikinger> No I mean in UK | |
| <popey> txwikinger: what ? | |
| <alecjw> thanks, popey | |
| <txwikinger> handing out CDs on SFD | |
| <popey> yes, as I said, all over the world | |
| <txwikinger> maybe I need to pop by my local LUG again for a change :-) | |
| <popey> what is your local LUG? | |
| <txwikinger> Bham | |
| <apokryphos> I seem to always miss the meets of any LUG, and hence have never been to one | |
| <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/UKLugMembers also alecjw | |
| <txwikinger> yep .. I have the same problem | |
| <popey> apokryphos: where is your nearest? | |
| <apokryphos> I live in Central London | |
| <popey> so you have two to choose from! :) | |
| <popey> Lonix and GLLUG | |
| <alecjw> ooooh - there;s a hertfordshir LUG | |
| <popey> I go to Hampshire LUG as often as I could | |
| <txwikinger> popey .. I know my LUG.. have been there before .. just not lately | |
| <apokryphos> popey: are any of them meeting soon? | |
| <popey> apokryphos: you would need to check yourself | |
| <popey> I dont know when every lug meets :) | |
| <apokryphos> how often do lugs generally meet? | |
| <jayteeuk> Catch you later folks. | |
| <apokryphos> bye | |
| <foxxya> Popey, may i say i found your screen casts extremely informative and helpful. | |
| <popey> you may say that :) | |
| <popey> thanks | |
| <foxxya> No thanks to you! They helped LOTS :) | |
| <popey> feel free to let me know if you have any requests | |
| <foxxya> Ok | |
| <popey> apokryphos: if someone wants a new #ubuntu-foo channel on freenode, whats the process? | |
| <popey> do you have to register centrally with ubuntu? | |
| <popey> as well as or instead of just usual freenode registration? | |
| <apokryphos> feel free to register it, but its ultimate existence is down to the IRC council | |
| <apokryphos> what do you have in mind? | |
| <apokryphos> it should also be listed on: | |
| <apokryphos> !irc | |
| <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines | |
| <popey> one for the screencast team | |
| <apokryphos> (last link) | |
| <apokryphos> feel free to make it | |
| <popey> ok, ta | |
| <txwikinger> popey: the images on the screencast page link to an unknown page... Not sure if that is intended this way | |
| <alecjw> popey, i htink you ned to get Seveas to give you the bots if you want them | |
| <txwikinger> I think my CD-drive died in the middle of the install | |
| <txwikinger> this think is more and more funny... this time it reports correctly | |
| <txwikinger> s/think/thing/ | |
| <popey> txwikinger: which page exactly? | |
| <txwikinger> hehe.. you fixed it | |
| <popey> what? | |
| <popey> I havent touched anything | |
| <txwikinger> http://doc.ubuntu.com/screencasts/ | |
| <popey> nope, that was working earlier | |
| <txwikinger> the links behind the pictures show now a different link | |
| <txwikinger> something with taxonomy in it | |
| <txwikinger> maybe some site admin changing things ? | |
| <popey> i am the only site admin | |
| <txwikinger> Ah sorry .. work link | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <txwikinger> try this: http://doc.ubuntu.com/screencasts/taxonomy/term/37 | |
| <popey> hmm | |
| <popey> yeah, that looks broken | |
| <popey> will check | |
| <txwikinger> I think I am multi-tasking too much :-) | |
| <popey> visit that link again :) | |
| <txwikinger> yep .. now it is correct | |
| <popey> thank you! | |
| <txwikinger> np | |
| <popey> fixing all the others now ;) | |
| <txwikinger> you don't know by any chance a howto for connecting a vnc to the gdm on :0 on xubuntu ? | |
| <popey> i have seen one, cant recall where | |
| <popey> i would just google, sorry | |
| <txwikinger> ok | |
| <popey> fixed all broken links I think, let me know if you spot any more, thanks txwikinger | |
| <txwikinger> ok... will do.. but I trust you have done all :) | |
| <popey> hahah | |
| <popey> bad move :) | |
| <txwikinger> trusting you ? | |
| <txwikinger> cool | |
| <txwikinger> I found it | |
| <txwikinger> ah I even found the lost menu | |
| <jayteeuk> Evening all. | |
| <constrictor> evening | |
| <jayteeuk> Do we have any half-decent illustrators, or anyone with advertising experience among us | |
| <jayteeuk> ? | |
| <chaddy> that's more a question to put on the mailing list, with a summary of what's wanted of them | |
| <chaddy> they're too wiley to just volunteer off the bat | |
| <jayteeuk> Yeah, I think I just spotted an opportunity to introduce what I'm thinking into an existing thread too. | |
| <constrictor> that are you thinking jayteeuk | |
| <constrictor> what* | |
| <jayteeuk> I have an idea for an awareness-raising campaign. | |
| <jayteeuk> A series of short adverts, or possibly cartoon strips... I'm not sure exactly what form they would take. | |
| <jayteeuk> You know how sometimes when someone asks you about, say, why you do something you might give a fairly detailed description, give an example and then summarise it with something like "It's a guy thing." | |
| <constrictor> "i am a linux, i am others" campaign | |
| <jayteeuk> I was thinking of using a similar angle to explain why we use FLOSS, or possibly Ubuntu in partcular. | |
| <constrictor> how about | |
| <constrictor> I floss and you don't | |
| <jayteeuk> "It's a standards thing", "It's an openness thing", "It's a freedom thing", "It's a security thing", "It's a stability thing", "It's a community thing". | |
| <constrictor> sorta kinda? | |
| <jayteeuk> Are all ones I've jotted down. I've got a couple of ideas for the actual content of a couple of them, but I can't draw for toffee. | |
| <constrictor> neither can i | |
| <constrictor> sorry | |
| <jayteeuk> I'll post on the list, I'm sure someone out there can make something of it. :) | |
| <medders> darn gaim | |
| <jamesbrose> whats up with it? | |
| <tsmithe> it's not xchat ;) | |
| <medders> I opened up gaim to chat to some friends on MSN (*boo hiss*) and it opened up IRC automatically | |
| <medders> along with my old user name :) | |
| <medders> on a completely other topic, does anyone have a regexp to scrape links? | |
| <frederific> #ubuntu-meeting | |
| <jayteeuk> CC meeting? | |
| <frederific> no, sorry, i typed /join, but it disappeared into the ether | |
| <jayteeuk> Ah. :) | |
| <txwikinger> Never touch a running system ! | |
| <jayteeuk> :) | |
| <jayteeuk> Well I find it kind of difficult to get anything done on a non-running one.... | |
| <txwikinger> just thought I fast install feisty on the empty partition I have on one of my boxes | |
| <txwikinger> ended up exchanging the CD-drive | |
| <txwikinger> vacuuming out the box and renaming it dyson | |
| <txwikinger> finding that in the meantime one of the chips on the controller of the HD exploded | |
| <txwikinger> replaced controller card | |
| <txwikinger> and now I finally installing again | |
| <tsmithe> hehe :) | |
| *** jono_ is now known as jono | |
| <Seeker`> anyone know how a team goes about getting a mailing list? | |
| <tsmithe> Seeker`, obviously asking in the wrong places, mate :) | |
| * Seeker` has tried other places, got no response | |
| <jayteeuk> OK, I think that's me done for one night. | |
| <jayteeuk> Night all. |
