| *** TPK is now known as ThePizzaKing | |
| <Phlosten> morning all | |
| <cps> morning | |
| <Phlosten> any calc wizzes with us today? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hey shenki_ | |
| <merlin-linux> morning all, how are we all? | |
| <Tatey> morngin mate | |
| <merlin-linux> hey Tatey, how are you? | |
| <Tatey> good mate | |
| *** WhiteT is now known as WhiteT-uni | |
| *** TPK is now known as ThePizzaKing | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> afk getting stuff done, including rebuilding my desktop+network (this translates to 'i'm not around much' | |
| <kgoetz> yay for ssh | |
| <Rothbuntu> mmmmmmmm | |
| <Rothbuntu> i mount the ntfs partiton on the hdd and its fine but if i mount the ntfs partition on the external drive its read only but they have the same rights in fstab | |
| <kgoetz> does the external drive automount? or do you do it/ | |
| <Rothbuntu> it auto mounts | |
| <kgoetz> that will be why | |
| <Rothbuntu> O_o | |
| <kgoetz> try setting gnome to not automount, then mount it by hand and see if it 'fixes' it | |
| <Rothbuntu> ok so where would i change that from :( | |
| <kgoetz> system -> preferences -> removable media | |
| <Rothbuntu> ok | |
| <Rothbuntu> lets see how we go | |
| <kgoetz> gl | |
| <Rothbuntu> i want to mount /dev/sdb to /media/external | |
| <kgoetz> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb /mnt/external | |
| <kgoetz> or something like that | |
| <Rothbuntu> arg its still mounted somehow | |
| <kgoetz> through gnome? | |
| <kgoetz> right clik the icon on the desktop -> eject | |
| <Rothbuntu> yep did it | |
| <Rothbuntu> if i go to places -> computer | |
| <Rothbuntu> ther is an icon for external | |
| <kgoetz> probably because of having an /external/ dir in /media/ | |
| * kgoetz slaps Rothbuntu for mounting in /media | |
| <Rothbuntu> O_O | |
| <Rothbuntu> the noob is strong with me | |
| <kgoetz> its all good | |
| * kgoetz sigh. installing on IDE takes so much longer then onto SCSI :( | |
| <Rothbuntu> ive never had any scsi stuff | |
| <kgoetz> i have piles of it, but i'm pulling it out of my desktop so i can reduce the number of drives in use | |
| <Rothbuntu> yes i need to compress my 5 pcs in to one :) | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <kgoetz> hope your compression isnt to violent ;) | |
| * kgoetz should get the imacs out of the boot of his car and see if they can be rebuilt (i hate those things. imposible to work with) | |
| <Rothbuntu> i need to get my torrentbox, webserver and fileserver, on to the same ubuntu box | |
| <kgoetz> wow. your network maintainance overhead must be huge | |
| <Rothbuntu> LOL yes i have them 3 my laptop my games machine and my g/f pc | |
| * kgoetz wonders if he could run adzapper on his wg54g | |
| <Rothbuntu> i got a wag54g | |
| <kgoetz> cool. | |
| <Rothbuntu> much better than my old d-link dsl 200 | |
| <kgoetz> i just put the wg in place, before that it was a billion 5000 adsl modem that had died | |
| *** elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbuntu | |
| <Rothbuntu> soooo ill remove the /external from media | |
| <Rothbuntu> if it will let me >_< | |
| <kgoetz> sudo rmdir /media/external && sudo mkdir /mnt/external | |
| <kgoetz> unloading car. | |
| <Rothbuntu> kk | |
| <Rothbuntu> i was doing rm not rmdir | |
| <tuppa> anyone here done installations with ubuntu server preseed? | |
| <Tatey> tuppa: you mean an Ubuntu Server installaltion? | |
| <Tatey> *installation | |
| <tuppa> yes | |
| <adhoc> tuppa: yes, for dapper | |
| <adhoc> some time ago ;) | |
| <Hit3k> "Microsoft Works" | |
| <Hit3k> I'll brb | |
| <Rothbuntu> thats an oxymoron | |
| <tuppa> adhoc: did you do the install with software RAID? | |
| <Hit3k> god damnit why is it you dont have sticks of ram around when you need them | |
| <adhoc> tuppa: i have on the third and fourth disks | |
| <tuppa> using preseed | |
| <adhoc> not heard of preseed before ... | |
| <adhoc> is that in edgy or fiesty? | |
| <tuppa> edgy | |
| <tuppa> it was available since the days of d-i | |
| <adhoc> ok | |
| <adhoc> i set up two IDE disks as a raid mirror | |
| <adhoc> its been a while since i did it ho | |
| <adhoc> tuppa: what you trying to do ? | |
| <tuppa> but not via a preseed file? | |
| <adhoc> no | |
| <adhoc> is this like a kickstart file? | |
| <tuppa> see if I can automate a ubuntu server install | |
| <tuppa> yup | |
| <tuppa> with software raid | |
| <adhoc> tuppa: that sounds like a good idea | |
| <tuppa> if it works yes | |
| <siccness> I just spent 6hrs in a class-room learning about Subnetting. Man that's some jaw-droppin shit! | |
| <Hit3k> e | |
| <Hit3k> erk ignore that | |
| <Hit3k> http://26bits.com/2007/photoshop-cs2-on-linux-ubuntu/ | |
| *** klepas is now known as klepas_ | |
| *** klepas_ is now known as klepas | |
| *** WikiMan is now known as MatthewV | |
| <cafuego_> siccness/24: eh? | |
| <praetorian> 24 tomorrow | |
| <purserj> Is he? | |
| <praetorian> no idea | |
| <praetorian> im not sure what cafuego is on about | |
| <Hit3k> or... talking about the TV show | |
| <praetorian> i gather siccness means the 24 show | |
| * cafuego_ was refwerring to the subnet | |
| <purserj> ah | |
| <purserj> siccness gets a whole subnet to himself? | |
| * kgoetz references brownouts, his modem and stuff in less then CoC language | |
| <praetorian> siccness is his own c class | |
| <cafuego_> purserj: safest | |
| <purserj> kgoetz: welcome to my world a day ago | |
| <kgoetz> purserj: thank you | |
| <Rothbuntu> like it hot hot hot | |
| <Rothbuntu> another week of 35+ deg | |
| <siccness> cafuego_: hehh | |
| <Hit3k> Rothbuntu, :( | |
| <Rothbuntu> i of the joys of working in an aircontitioned office YAY | |
| <DarthLappy> It's kinda cool here :( | |
| <kgoetz> ffs. at this rate i wont be here for the meeting, because of dinner | |
| <siccness> I won't be here for the meeting either, dentist :| | |
| <kgoetz> :| | |
| <Rothbuntu> ill be here but i have no idea whats going on | |
| <kgoetz> and otehrs cant come because of life, elkbuntu will be talking to herself :( | |
| <siccness> push it back to 9pm and i can come :P | |
| <kgoetz> nah, elkies a chick, she could quite easily talk to herself for an hour ;) | |
| * kgoetz hides | |
| *** TPK is now known as ThePizzaKing | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Rothbuntu> no comment | |
| <siccness> burned. | |
| <Hit3k> kgoetz, LOL | |
| <siccness> kgoetz: although, I seem to be able to do that these days. I have no radio in the car anymore so I often find myself talking to myself. | |
| <kgoetz> siccness: heh. | |
| <Hit3k> I dont talk to myself. I find someone to talk to | |
| <siccness> Sure. | |
| <Hit3k> pfft | |
| <Hit3k> anyone know how to change the gnome "main menu" icon | |
| <kgoetz> Hit3k: iirc recompile, but there should be a nicer way if yoru lucky | |
| <Hit3k> i can do it in gconf-editior | |
| <Hit3k> but cannot remember how | |
| <siccness> the top left footprint logo? | |
| <siccness> (or whereever you have your bar) | |
| <siccness> Hit3k: http://manac.wordpress.com/2007/01/08/howto-change-gnome-foot-into-ubuntu-logo/ | |
| <siccness> obviously you can choose your own image, but the procedures there. | |
| <Hit3k> yeah | |
| <Hit3k> hey! | |
| <Hit3k> i still have windows on my main box | |
| <Hit3k> well that doesnt help | |
| <pschulz01> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070211 | |
| <pschulz01> Evening all | |
| <siccness> Evening champ. | |
| <kgoetz> if the meeting goes ahead, i'm going to sugest that nothing be decided - its just not going to be practical | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: I think that we need to give Melissa the dictatorship, and let her decide. | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: I'm sick of this democracy stuff. | |
| <siccness> Sorry to interrupt, but what's this about? | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o kgoetz | |
| <pschulz01> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings <--- meeting times again. | |
| <siccness> :| | |
| *** pschulz01 was kicked by kgoetz (dictatorship is so 2007) | |
| <Fujitsu> kgoetz: You mean 2006? | |
| <kgoetz> Fujitsu: i meant 08 actually :| | |
| *** kgoetz sets mode: -o kgoetz | |
| <kgoetz> wrong key though | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <kgoetz> oh well. cant always hit the right keys | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: That's NOT what I ment. | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: I'm pretty sure there is such a thing as a participatory dictatorship. | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: .. but I just made that up.. | |
| <kgoetz> ... | |
| * pschulz01 shoots he raygun at kgoetz | |
| <kgoetz> you rotten swine you :( you have deaded me | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: You are in a field. Exits lead North, South, East and West. There is a tree here. | |
| * kgoetz moves left | |
| <elkbuntu> heh | |
| * kgoetz hugs elkbuntu | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: You trip and sprain your ankle. A white rabbit appears and hands you some crutches. | |
| <elkbuntu> we'll start when i get back | |
| <kgoetz> is there a combo for swearing? :| not only am i injured, but i'm also off my nut :S | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: <Ctl><Alt><Tab><f4><PgeUp> | |
| * kgoetz tries it | |
| <kgoetz> error: 1@)(%*!@&09Q&3(#&509&)(%&@#59 | |
| <kgoetz> :/ | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: The tree falls on you. | |
| * kgoetz pushes on tree | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: New tree shaped satellite now in orbit... | |
| <Hit3k> the greenies finally got their way :p | |
| * kgoetz moves up to real world | |
| <pschulz01> kgoetz: You accidental swallow invading alien spaceships. | |
| <Hit3k> http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Australias_prime_minister_AlQaeda_prays_Obama_0211.html | |
| <Hit3k> our pm is an idiot | |
| <Rothbuntu> lol | |
| <Rothbuntu> O RLY | |
| <pschulz01> I had this discussion this morning with Father-In-Law. | |
| <pschulz01> Who, out of all of them, would you rather? | |
| <purserj> Obama | |
| <Hit3k> none they all suck | |
| <pschulz01> Hmm... maybe we will. | |
| <Hit3k> but if i had to chose Obama | |
| <purserj> The PM's an idiot but he's only returning the favour after the US Ambassador weighed in at the last election on his side | |
| <joshhendo> is there a meeting on now or did I get the time mixed up >.<? | |
| <kgoetz> joshhendo: when elkbuntu comes back therse one | |
| <pschulz01> joshhendo: Idle banter until elkbuntu comes back.. soon.. | |
| <joshhendo> ok, thanks :) | |
| <elkbuntu> which is now | |
| <pschulz01> joshhendo: .. so what brand of toothpaste do you use? | |
| <kgoetz> lol | |
| <pschulz01> joshhendo: belay that, | |
| <pschulz01> belay | |
| <kgoetz> pull up a bollow | |
| <xxxdan> what does rock climbing have to do with anything | |
| <elkbuntu> ok, lets roll with the meeting | |
| <elkbuntu> Meeting day review: We need to check that Monday is still the best day to meet on | |
| <joshhendo> woo | |
| <kgoetz> xxxdan: ... | |
| <elkbuntu> add yourself and your preferences to http://ubuntu.org.au/meeting-prefs/ | |
| <kgoetz> elkbuntu: i dont think we should be deciding on day today. i think it should be done on the list | |
| <pschulz01> now? | |
| <elkbuntu> kgoetz, i know, but im getting people here to add themselves, that is all im doing | |
| <kgoetz> ok | |
| * kgoetz thinks its a mistake for hte page to default to 'good', but oh well | |
| <elkbuntu> ok... next item | |
| <hysterio> evening everyone | |
| <elkbuntu> While in Perth recently, I was able to catch up with a couple of people in the team, put some names to faces and pass on some Edgy CD's. Does anyone else meet up (physically!) with fellow Ubuntu-ites? and what do they get up to? PaulSchulz (pschulz01) | |
| <joshhendo> evening | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: Thanks for that... | |
| <MatthewV> btw pschulz01 thanks for the cds and yoyo :) | |
| <pschulz01> I caught up with two people... and sent some stuff to MatthewV | |
| <elkbuntu> um, LCA is the only time i've met up with fellow ubuntuites, and we ran an open day stall and went to the pub | |
| <kgoetz> i catch up with tehm all the time. pschulz01 suffers my company a lot ;) | |
| <pschulz01> I emailed all of the WA folk that I could.. only had emails for 2 that replied. | |
| * MatthewV has to go, and i've only just come :( | |
| <MatthewV> catcha all | |
| <siccness> I'm off catch | |
| <kgoetz> later both | |
| <joshhendo> bye | |
| <pschulz01> Lambretta <- resonable new to Linux. Introduced by a friend. I dropped of 2 edgy CD's, some stickers and a copy of 'Revolution OS' | |
| <pschulz01> AndrewShugg (mr_shugg) <- Working in Subiaco. Has been a long time member of the Uni computer club.. they have an internet vending machine.. | |
| <pschulz01> You can buy a coke online, for someone that may be around on the webcam. | |
| <kgoetz> thats a little wierd :| | |
| <pschulz01> You can also buy 'clue'. This doesn't dispence anything, but deducts a certain amount from your account. | |
| <joshhendo> the point in that is? | |
| <elkbuntu> even weirder | |
| <Rothbuntu> interesting | |
| <pschulz01> It a computer joke... eg. that person should get some clue | |
| <kgoetz> heh. its like the picture i was going to do of geeks ata beach - a tupaware of water, some sand thrown around and geeks with desktops sitting by it | |
| <elkbuntu> ok, shall we move on? | |
| <kgoetz> and why not :) | |
| <elkbuntu> Sun, 25 Feb, 2pm-5pm - IT Discovery Day, Mawson Lakes. Ubuntu-Au has a table and has received 300 CD's to give away at the event. (Some of these have already been distributed as promotional material.) This effort is being supported by Bettong, Air-Stream.Org and JoelStanly (shenki) who has a OLPC laptop. The event is organised by Delfin-Lend Lease to launch of their new community website, and is featuring technology demonstrati | |
| <elkbuntu> ons by Telstra and Harvey-Norman. PaulSchulz (pschulz01) | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: I was trying to find out more about the OpenSourceWA centre that was open in Perth.. but failed miserably on that front. | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: (That's my report for that item.) | |
| <kgoetz> bettong.org (for the record) | |
| <elkbuntu> pschulz01, i figured | |
| <elkbuntu> so, moving on, unless we want to discuss? | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: Does anyone else meet up? (Other than kgoetz !) | |
| <kgoetz> do we want to continue with fornightly meetings? | |
| <joshhendo> sure | |
| <pschulz01> +1 | |
| <elkbuntu> i think he means, monthly instead of fortnightly | |
| <kgoetz> unless people are going to start posting agenda items there doesnt seem much point | |
| <kgoetz> while it would drop the speed of the team, i think thats already happened | |
| <elkbuntu> kgoetz, the past month and a bit has been collateral from LCA | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: Can I suggest that people can take jobs/tasks and then give a report on them. | |
| <kgoetz> elkbuntu: i can only partly agree | |
| <elkbuntu> pschulz01, what jobs/tasks? | |
| <joshhendo> I would be happy to help, depending on the task. | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: Well.. I will have done the event on the 25th.. so happy to have that on the agenda for the next meeting. | |
| <elkbuntu> pschulz01, a report to the whole mailing list would probably be better | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: I see the these meetings as coordination sessions... | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: Happy to do that as well. | |
| <elkbuntu> since it then gets to over a hundred people, rather than.. 5 | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: moving on? | |
| <elkbuntu> pschulz01, or were you thinking of a 'todo' list? | |
| <kgoetz> elkbuntu: speaking of list - have you managed to get control yet? and if you want a hand with the backlog i'jm cool with the mailman admin and i have time | |
| <elkbuntu> (was searching to see if we already had one) | |
| <elkbuntu> kgoetz, not yet. will go to rt tonight since i've had absolutely no response from jdub | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: We should have a brainstorming session, and decide what we (as a group ) want to do this year.. | |
| <kgoetz> elkbuntu: ok. offers open if you ever need it :) | |
| <elkbuntu> pschulz01, we'll wait for next meeting for that, in hope we have more participant | |
| <elkbuntu> s | |
| <kgoetz> elkbuntu: start on the list perhaps? | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: In the meantime.. let people know that we want ideas :-) | |
| <pschulz01> elkbuntu: (What kgoetz said) | |
| <elkbuntu> pschulz01, will do so in meeting summary | |
| <hysterio> elkbuntu: whats rt? | |
| <elkbuntu> and yes | |
| <joshhendo> any page that we can easily submit ideas to, or just post on the mailing list? | |
| <elkbuntu> Request Tracker | |
| <hysterio> k | |
| <elkbuntu> joshhendo, we're proposing a todo list of sorts | |
| <joshhendo> ok | |
| <elkbuntu> joshhendo, currently there does not appear to be one | |
| <kgoetz> joshhendo: a page with the ideas would be good, but we would try and get ideas from the liast | |
| <kgoetz> *list | |
| <elkbuntu> if it's not done by later, i'll make the page | |
| * pschulz01 is poised.. just point him at the page and stand back.. | |
| <elkbuntu> pschulz01, feel free to make one... lets decide a name first | |
| <joshhendo> sounds good :) | |
| <elkbuntu> todo is so passe | |
| <kgoetz> *giggles* | |
| <kgoetz> MustBeDone (in wiki style) | |
| <elkbuntu> EvilPlan is not quite CoC enough :Þ | |
| <kgoetz> s/Must/Should | |
| <elkbuntu> nor is WorldDomination | |
| * pschulz01 likes EvilPlan | |
| <kgoetz> FazeVon ? | |
| <elkbuntu> hmm.. let me think, we'll make it after the meeting | |
| <pschulz01> AustraliaTeam/Plan | |
| <elkbuntu> however, speaking of wiki stuff (queue next point) MatthewV has resigned as our WikiMan | |
| <joshhendo> :( | |
| <elkbuntu> mainly in terms of wikifying meetings | |
| <pschulz01> +1 for excellent effort to MatthewV | |
| <joshhendo> same | |
| <elkbuntu> yep, MatthewV did a good job | |
| *** Hit3k_ is now known as Hit3k | |
| <kgoetz> verry much | |
| <kgoetz> *very | |
| <pschulz01> also +1 for letting people know, and passing on the batton gracefully | |
| <elkbuntu> yep | |
| <elkbuntu> i propose that we leave deciding our next scribe until the new day is decided | |
| <pschulz01> +1 | |
| <Rothbuntu> +4 battle damage | |
| <joshhendo> ok | |
| <kgoetz> +1 (exept for this meeting) | |
| <elkbuntu> Rothbuntu, bwahaha | |
| <elkbuntu> kgoetz, i usually do it if matt doesnt | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <elkbuntu> ok... i think that is all for tonight. any last-minute matters? | |
| <joshhendo> nothing here | |
| <kgoetz> hug me! | |
| * elkbuntu hugs kgoetz | |
| <kgoetz> :( | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <greebo> kgoetz, *hug* | |
| <elkbuntu> greebo! | |
| <kgoetz> <3 *hugs all back* | |
| <greebo> elkbuntu, heya! :) | |
| * joshhendo hugs kgoetz | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <elkbuntu> greebo, i'll catch you in PM in a min | |
| <elkbuntu> if that's ok? | |
| <greebo> elkbuntu, ok | |
| <elkbuntu> ok, nothing else for the meeting? | |
| <elkbuntu> going once | |
| <kgoetz> all done | |
| <elkbuntu> hey! that's my line | |
| <pschulz01> Thanks all, thanks elkbuntu | |
| <elkbuntu> ok, closed | |
| <elkbuntu> thanks paul | |
| <kgoetz> sorry elks :( | |
| <kgoetz> nice meeting all - 30 min | |
| <Hit3k> longest ever | |
| <Hit3k> ? :P | |
| <merlin-linux> evening all | |
| <joshhendo> next time it would be good if we had that todo (/evilplan) list :) | |
| <joshhendo> evening | |
| <kgoetz> hi mruiz :D | |
| <mruiz> hi kgoetz | |
| <mruiz> :-) | |
| <joshhendo> hello | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <mruiz> hi mates! | |
| <kgoetz> :D | |
| <joshhendo> :D | |
| <joshhendo> hi praetor | |
| <Rothbuntu> Holla | |
| <praetor> hullo | |
| <MatthewV> hi all.. i'm back | |
| <joshhendo> anyway, im off now | |
| <joshhendo> see you all later! | |
| <MatthewV> bye joshhendo | |
| <Hit3k> damnit im never gonna get my drivers license | |
| <Rothbuntu> lol | |
| <Hit3k> the hell is the deal with this "green P" crap | |
| <Rothbuntu> i dont know | |
| <hysterio> thats the crippling final blow stage | |
| <Rothbuntu> ive been full licence for almost a decade | |
| <MatthewV> anyone here tried using blender with a dual head setup? | |
| <Hit3k> god is that even compulsory in VIC yet | |
| <MatthewV> it tries to stretch the gl rendered interface across both screens | |
| <MatthewV> but that doesnt work for me, doesnt display on one screen | |
| <greebo> Hit3k, get it before the end of this june, or it gets a _lot_ harder | |
| <Hit3k> greebo, im not 18 till next year | |
| <greebo> Hit3k, oh, you already have your l's? yeah, people going for their l's after june are going to have a rough time | |
| <Hit3k> wait | |
| <Hit3k> if you get them before june you dont have to do this green P thing? | |
| <Hobbsee> hey greebo!!! | |
| <Rothbuntu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqC6JVWhMxM | |
| <Hobbsee> Hit3k: green P's arent a problem | |
| <greebo> Hit3k, you'll still have to do the green p, however I believe after june if you start with your L's then (I'm not sure about P's) then you won't be able to take multiple drivers, you'll have to do something like 150 hours rather than 50 to get your full licence and a few other things | |
| <greebo> Hobbsee, heya!! long time no see :) | |
| <Hobbsee> Hit3k: eep? are there more new things? | |
| <Hobbsee> greebo: indeed! | |
| <praetor> Hit3k: I failed the test 4 times and then did logbook before I got my Ps :-[ | |
| <greebo> Rothbuntu, oh, that is just too funny | |
| <siccness> meetin still on? | |
| <Hit3k> that log book crap annoys me | |
| <Rothbuntu> lol its good aye | |
| <hysterio> Hit3k: they looked at it for all of 30 seconds with me | |
| <elkbuntu> ok wtf did i just bump? my xchat dialog list just disappeared | |
| <Hit3k> "dialog list" ? | |
| <elkbuntu> ooh, opened the chan in a separate window... sec... | |
| <Hit3k> you..dont have to part to re connect it.. | |
| * Hobbsee reads | |
| <Hobbsee> strike.... | |
| <Hobbsee> Hit3k: what licence are you on now? | |
| <Hit3k> my L | |
| <Hit3k> s | |
| <elkbuntu> sorry, got distracted on the way back in | |
| <Hobbsee> Hit3k: log books are nuisances. | |
| * Hobbsee yays - none of those conditions effect my green P's | |
| * Hobbsee --> dinner | |
| * Hit3k yawns | |
| <siccness> Bah i've forgotten everything i learnt today already :| | |
| <hysterio> siccness: it probably wasnt important anyway | |
| <siccness> Actually, it is :P | |
| <siccness> Subnetting :| | |
| <TheMuso> Evening all. | |
| <siccness> Evening | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: Doesn't matter, install `ipcalc'. | |
| <siccness> I'm never working on helpdesk, I just received this question: "I clickde a link and got a virus i think", Me: "Do you have antivirus software?" "Yes" Me: "Have you ran it?" "No" | |
| <hysterio> siccness: times that by a billion and then your closer to reality | |
| <purserj> welcome to 4.5 years of pain | |
| <siccness> cafuego_: can't use a calc during exam | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: That's retarded, you can use it at work. | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <TheMuso> purserj: SOunds like the wor I'd actually rather avoid then. | |
| <TheMuso> s/wor/work | |
| <kgoetz> for crying out loud! itshare *and* me have no mac keyboards! hope they are ok with sun keyboards+mice... | |
| * cafuego_ winces at distcc | |
| * siccness hugs distcc | |
| <cafuego_> Yeah, nice *if* you're not building kernel on a box with a different libc6 | |
| <siccness> fvwm is shocking for productivity :| | |
| <cafuego_> Got it working now. | |
| <TheMuso> cafuego_: Ouch | |
| <cafuego_> TheMuso: Well, messing about for an hour to get it to build OK on this box using the amd64 and c2d is still faster than building it outright on the machine itself :-) | |
| <bimberi> blah, unforseen callaways -> missed meeting | |
| * bimberi punishes himself by installing Minix3 | |
| <kgoetz> lol | |
| <kgoetz> hi bimberi | |
| * cafuego_ gives bimberi a wary stare | |
| <bimberi> hi kgoetz! | |
| <bimberi> cafuego_: :) | |
| <bimberi> ooh look, it's got 'dungeon' | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <Hit3k> now bowing bits | |
| * cafuego_ accidentally left his minix cd in the production server | |
| * kgoetz wonders where his minix cd went :( | |
| <cafuego_> so the bugger booted THAT and not all linux services | |
| <cafuego_> kgoetz: Just download a new one | |
| <bimberi> eek | |
| <kgoetz> cafuego_: i will when the next poitn update hits, but i like my printd cds | |
| <cafuego_> mine was broked | |
| <cafuego_> or mebbe one of the cats scratched it :-/ | |
| <bimberi> "Updating GCC libraries. This takes about 2 minutes on a decent machine." | |
| <bimberi> heh, might leave that running overnight then ;) | |
| <cafuego_> bimberi: vmware is your friend :-) | |
| <bimberi> cafuego_: would vmware-server be usable 384MB RAM? | |
| <bimberi> *with 384MB | |
| <cafuego_> bimberi: yup | |
| <cafuego_> bimberi: minix runs fine in 16 or 32 | |
| <bimberi> cafuego_: cool. Thanks. I've been influenced by my experience with vmware-player (and a downloaded Fedora VM) which basically ground my PC to a halt. But I can see how -server would be different. | |
| <bimberi> er, actually I guess it's more about the VM itself, and the resources it's configured to desire, than vmware-* | |
| <cafuego_> bimberi: Yeah, fedora's not little. | |
| <cafuego_> bimberi: Not that vmware is fast, but it does completely depend on what you ermulate. WinXP is horrid on my machine, but Slackware 3 boots in 4 seconds ;-) | |
| <purserj> freebsd is pretty spanky | |
| <TigerWolf> i should install it to try it out | |
| <TigerWolf> im have a shell acount with it installed | |
| <purserj> just watch out on edgy, you need to pass the vmware-server-console an LD option | |
| <F-nkyMNK_> Hooray! Australian Ubuntuees! | |
| <kgoetz> :) | |
| <siccness> im gonna tear my hair out soon :| | |
| <F-nkyMNK_> how are we all? | |
| <kgoetz> F-nkyMNK_: exept siccness , good ;) | |
| <F-nkyMNK_> Ah, really... Whats going on siccness? | |
| <Hit3k> he cant remember his bible classes :p | |
| <F-nkyMNK_> oh.. | |
| *** F-nkyMNK_ is now known as F-nkyMNK | |
| <Hit3k> siccness, have you checked the wikipedia article? | |
| <siccness> no idea man | |
| <siccness> im trying to work out the maximum amount of subnets | |
| <kgoetz> AHAHAHAAHAHA | |
| <siccness> one site tells me something crazy like 4000 | |
| <siccness> while the answer is '8' | |
| <kgoetz> yeh, not doing networking this semester was a good move ;D | |
| <siccness> it's the biggest load of bullshit ever | |
| <kgoetz> siccness: depends on your availabvle network space | |
| <siccness> there's f-ing numbers left right and center | |
| <kgoetz> yeh | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: maximum numbers of subnets on what? | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: a /8 or a /24? | |
| <siccness> Assume that you have been assigned the 200.35.1.0/24 network | |
| <siccness> block. | |
| <cafuego_> just run a virtual subnet over the top - heh | |
| <siccness> i worked out the prefix thingo is 27 | |
| <siccness> max hosts per subnet is 30 | |
| <siccness> but no idea on max subnets | |
| <kgoetz> siccness: what is the question? max subnets in a /24? | |
| <siccness> doesnt say whether 24 or not | |
| <siccness> but it asked us to work out the prefix, which is 27 | |
| <siccness> according to the answer sheet its 8 or 23 | |
| <cafuego_> Oh, you need to split the /24 into as many /27's as possible? | |
| <Hit3k> ans => 8 && ans <= 27 | |
| <F-nkyMNK> orrighty, i'm outta here! later folks :D | |
| <siccness> catch mate | |
| <siccness> cafuego_: eh? | |
| *** klepas_ is now known as klepas | |
| <kgoetz> siccness: what is the question? | |
| <siccness> that is the question, whats the maximum number of subnets | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: You can fit 8x a /27 into 256 ip addresses. | |
| <kgoetz> in 200.35.1.0/24 ? | |
| <cafuego_> 27 - 24 = 3 | |
| <cafuego_> 2 ^ 3 = 8 | |
| <siccness> ahh you fing genius | |
| <siccness> thanks mate | |
| <cafuego_> Of course, you could split it into 128 /31s | |
| <siccness> why 31? | |
| <siccness> and why 128? lol | |
| <cafuego_> Why not? | |
| <siccness> i dunno where you got those numbers from | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: An actual i address is a /32 (255.255.255.255) | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: Anyting less than that is a network (ie: more than one IP) | |
| <siccness> 24 being 255.255.255.? | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: 255.255.255.0 | |
| <siccness> ok, so, 16 is 255.255.0.0 | |
| <siccness> and so forth | |
| <cafuego_> correct | |
| <siccness> so would 64 /30 be correct to, in comparison of 128 /31? or am i just losing it now? | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: that would be entirely correct. | |
| <siccness> to the former or the latter? :P | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: A /24 can be split up into 64 distinct /30 subnets | |
| <cafuego_> or 128 /31 subnets | |
| <cafuego_> Not that I think /30's are actually useful for *anything* as they contain a network address and a broadcast address, not actually any host IPs. | |
| <cafuego_> sorry, /31's that is | |
| <kgoetz> they are good at using ips | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: The whole subnet calculation is adding to or subtracting from 32 or 24 (or 16 or 8) and raising 2 to the power of whatever number you get. | |
| <siccness> yeah, mate, appreciate your help a heap | |
| <siccness> spent the last 1hr with a mate tryna work it out | |
| <siccness> we were guessin with numbers :P | |
| <cafuego_> If it's a power of 2 you can't be far wrong ;-) | |
| <cafuego_> it's all about splitting 256 addresses into groups that are all powers of two themselves. | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <cafuego_> and then configuring the switch so the bastards on one /28 can't talk the bastards on another /28 ;-) | |
| <kgoetz> lol | |
| * kgoetz has to do that to the hut :/ | |
| <cafuego_> kgoetz: I find unplugging it works wonders for security. | |
| <kgoetz> cafuego_: i'll give it shot next time i need a quick fix | |
| <cafuego_> <heh> | |
| <cafuego_> on that note, it's time for bed | |
| <Rothbuntu> managed switches and vlans are the go | |
| <kgoetz> sleep well cafuego_ | |
| <kgoetz> crud. this drives spewing crc errors and seek errors :S | |
| <kgoetz> and i want this to be my new primary drive :( | |
| <TheMuso> kgoetz: Ouch | |
| <praetorian> TheMuso: you are supposed to convince him thats fine..! :-) | |
| <kgoetz> hope switching it back into native (sata) mode will fix it :| | |
| <praetorian> you need raid | |
| <kgoetz> praetorian: no, i need backups ;) | |
| <kgoetz> speaking of which. anyone know how to merge home directories (ie old backups) | |
| <Rothbuntu> this drives gives errors when it on xp but runs fine on ubuntu | |
| <kgoetz> watching syslog while doing an install is quite interesting | |
| <elkbuntu> Rothbuntu, not unheard of. we have a harddrive here that refused to install windows, but installed and ran ubuntu fine | |
| <purserj> hardware with taste? | |
| * bimberi is reminded of the washing machine on the Young Ones | |
| <bimberi> it refuses to take their clothes until Vivian tricks it by saying that it's a load of Felicity Kendall's underwear | |
| <Rothbuntu> lol young one | |
| <Rothbuntu> old school | |
| <bimberi> wow, YouTube has lots of clips from the Young Ones | |
| <bimberi> what I'm rabbiting on about is in this one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8tzoGMNXU | |
| <siccness> Wow :) | |
| <Rothbuntu> HOT DAMN austnet just went bunta again | |
| <kgoetz> sounds like i'm not there at a good time ;) | |
| <Rothbuntu> austnet has been weird for ages | |
| <merlin-linux> damnit gthumb won't let me import images from my digital camera | |
| * merlin-linux thinks it is ubuntu way of making us have to use f-spot | |
| <merlin-linux> the whole import photos menu selection is greyed out | |
| <kgoetz> well, this hdd might be screwd... which would be just what i need :| | |
| <yama> merlin-linux: it probably requires some extra packages to be installed | |
| <yama> like gphoto | |
| <merlin-linux> yama: it has always worked out the box | |
| <merlin-linux> yama: f-spot works fine but i don't like f-spot | |
| <yama> neither do I | |
| * yama uses gqview | |
| <merlin-linux> libgphoto is installed | |
| <merlin-linux> but it not in the depends of gthumb | |
| <merlin-linux> hmm this is strange | |
| <siccness> Taco's tomorrow night! Yippie! | |
| <merlin-linux> gthumb in feisty is missing 2 depends that i can see that gthumb under edgy has | |
| <merlin-linux> gthumb under feisty is missing libgphoto2-2 and libgphoto2-port0 | |
| <merlin-linux> so some dumb arse has compiled gthumb under feisty wrong | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <elkbuntu> merlin-linux, which of course you've reported as a bug, right? | |
| <kgoetz> merlin-linux: your sure it needs them? | |
| <merlin-linux> i searching launchpad now about it | |
| <yama> night all | |
| <siccness> Night mate | |
| <elkbuntu> night yama | |
| <merlin-linux> kgoetz: yes gthumb does need them to import photos from digital camera | |
| <merlin-linux> night yama | |
| <kgoetz> night yama | |
| * kgoetz hates the import photos window | |
| <siccness> Anyone else buggered? | |
| <merlin-linux> well there a bug reported already for it | |
| *** _fildo is now known as fildo | |
| * TigerWolf is away: sleep | |
| <greebo> pschulz01, heya | |
| <greebo> Changlinn, heya | |
| <Changlinn> hey greebo, hows it going | |
| * tuppa hugs greebo | |
| <greebo> Changlinn, crazybusy! | |
| <greebo> too busy to blog :( | |
| <greebo> tuppa, thx! | |
| <tuppa> thanks, I needed a hug too anyway | |
| <tuppa> :p | |
| <greebo> tuppa, *hugs* | |
| <tuppa> :D |