<DaveMorris> I've brought an external 5 1/2" drive enclosuer, and it even came with a screwdriver!
<Seeker`> i think we need a three pronged attack when it comes to conversion of people
<Seeker`> 1. subliminal
<Seeker`> 2. liminal
<Seeker`> 3. superliminal
<DaveMorris> I failed with my g/f father
<DaveMorris> all because his printer wouldn't work :(
<Seeker`> DaveMorris: Tell him he doesn
<Seeker`> t need a print
<Seeker`> er
* Seeker` thinks he should use the enter key less often
*** DaveMorris changes topic to "Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://www.ubuntu-uk.org | Ubuntu FAQ: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Gallery/Members add your picture | Next UKTeam Meeting is in #ubuntu-uk on 21st February at 21:00 | Happy 30th Gazzak"
<Seeker`> hes getting ooooooooooooooold
<popey> \o/
<DaveMorris> yep
<popey> old git
<Seeker`> popey: Pot, let me introduce kettle
<DaveMorris> I'm sure he'll love it when he logs in later on
<popey> oooooooo
<Seeker`> :P
<DaveMorris> yeah, popey looks over 35
*** popey changes topic to "Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://www.ubuntu-uk.org | Ubuntu FAQ: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Gallery/Members add your picture | Next UKTeam Meeting is in #ubuntu-uk on 21st February at 21:00 | Happy 30th Gazzak (you old git)"
<DaveMorris> lol
<Seeker`> hehe
<Seeker`> bored
<popey> bed
<popey> nn
<Seeker`> nn
<DaveMorris> I'm just playing with my new dual tuner card for mythtv
<Seeker`> ooh
* Seeker` wants a tuner
<DaveMorris> the tuner is the cheap bit.
<Seeker`> whats the expensive bit?
<DaveMorris> motherboards, disks, cases
<DaveMorris> dual tuner card is £50
* Seeker` was planning on putting it in his existing TV
<Seeker`> s/TV/PC
<DaveMorris> even if a driver isn't installed it should still appear on with a lspci yeah?
<Seeker`> i dont know
<Seeker`> i think so
<popey> morning ratfans
<popey> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
<popey> /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file
<popey> bah
<popey> ___________________________
<popey> < Mooooorning! It's friday! >
<popey> ---------------------------
<popey> \ ^__^
<popey> \ (oo)\_______
<popey> (__)\ )\/\
<popey> ||----w |
<popey> || ||
<popey> that's better
<Seeker`> morning
<Seeker`> worktime
<Seeker`> :(
<GazzaK> well.... I don't 'feel' any different
* popey points and laughs at the old man!
* GazzaK cries
<GazzaK> my back hurts
<GazzaK> my legs don't work no more
<GazzaK> my sleeping is shagged!
* GazzaK is soooo old
<GazzaK> popey, !!!!! just noticed the topic!!!
<popey> :)
<GazzaK> you git
<GazzaK> 00:28 you set it too
<GazzaK> did you wait up special like!?
<popey> just got back from pub :)
<popey> oh sorry, no, yes I stayed up
<GazzaK> don't you know - never do anything after getting back from the pub! many mistakes can be made!
<popey> indeed
<popey> for example.. in another channel..
<popey> 00:35 <@popey> I appear to be farting raw sewage
<GazzaK> ewwww
<GazzaK> lol, d'oh
<GazzaK> did you have a curry on the way home then?
<popey> no I had paella
<popey> went out in Woking with ex-boss
<GazzaK> paella - that explains the farting
<popey> some wine, some guinness, you know how it is
<popey> pub lunch day today \o/
<GazzaK> yay
* GazzaK is off out for a nice meal tonight :-)
<GazzaK> and last working day for a bit - I have the whole week off next week
<popey> \o/
<mrben> morning all
<popey> greetings mrben
<Seeker`> mornin
<Seeker`> happy birthday GazzaK
<mrben> yeah - hippo birdie
* mrben has another friend whose birthday is today
<GazzaK> thanks Seeker`
<constrictor> !devices
<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about devices - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
<constrictor> what's that link to the supported devices again?
<tsurc> any one know about setting up your own repositories?
<constrictor> !wifi
<ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
<popey> tsurc: a repository of your own packages or a mirror of the ubuntu ones?
<constrictor> popey guess what?
<popey> wot?
<popey> you bought *another* unsupported card?
<constrictor> i took everyones advice and went to look at the supported device list
<popey> \o/
<constrictor> and got another card
<constrictor> the thing doesn't work
<popey> what is it?
<constrictor> i think i'm not doing something right
<popey> thats one option
<constrictor> it's a linksys, atheros chipset
<popey> what type of card is it?
<popey> ahhh
<popey> model?
<popey> do lspci then lspci -n
<popey> and get the PCI ID for the devic3e
<constrictor> AR5005G
<constrictor> actually i didn't buy this one, i don't even own it yet so that's a good thing
<popey> eh? is it plugged into the computer?
<popey> (whatever the odd ownership)
<constrictor> but you know edgy pick it up nicely, network applet lists the wireless access point
<constrictor> i just can't connect to it
<constrictor> this is the line lspci gives me
<constrictor> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
<popey> what signal does network-manager say you are getting?
<constrictor> do you mean strenght?
<mrben> they screwed up madwifi in edgy
<mrben> you might have problems
<constrictor> i see
<constrictor> but does madwifi handle atheros chipsets
<constrictor> ?
<mrben> yes
<mrben> well - it did the one in my laptop
<constrictor> clicking on the access point gives me the usual dialogue to enter the params etc
<constrictor> however it's just a bit off
<constrictor> it asks for the wrong details, always asks for wep never wpa
<popey> constrictor: lsmod | grep zd
<popey> thats a network-manager flaw isnt it?
<constrictor> i get nothing with lsmod | grep zd
<mrben> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1795592
<mrben> see that and related threads ^^
<GazzaK> afaik network manager doesn't support wpa correctly
<constrictor> on my dell inspiron though the manager is flawless
<constrictor> that uses an inter prowireless
<popey> constrictor: dmesg | grep ath ?
<mrben> GazzaK: worked fine under dapper for me
<constrictor> got something
<mrben> the standard response on the forums that I can see is to move to ndiswrapper instead of madwifi
<mrben> which is a bit unsatisfactory, IMHO
<constrictor> i'll put it on pastebin popey
<popey> also dmesg | grep eth1
<popey> assuming eth1 is your net card
<constrictor> it's ath1
<constrictor> ath0 sorry
<constrictor> NETDEV_UP: ath0: link is not ready
<constrictor> that's the last line i get
<constrictor> i'm going to look at madwifi
<GazzaK> woooo cake!
<constrictor> anyone know what repository it's in
<GazzaK> erm, also the network manager applet needs the etc/network/interfaces file #'d out doesn't it?
<mrben> constrictor: it's in the restricted-modules package
<mrben> but, as noted before, it's broken in Edgy
<mrben> so you might be better going for ndiswrapper
<mrben> ref: those links I sent you
<popey> GazzaK: no
<constrictor> yeah i looked at the disk that comes with the card
<popey> i installed network manager on my laptop last night, made no changes at all
<constrictor> the drivers seem to be bundled with an exe file
<constrictor> i can't find the .inf files
<popey> unzip the exe?
<constrictor> ah ok
<constrictor> one sec didn't bring my docking station so i have to copy it to the network and pick it up here
<constrictor> this is all very exciting
<constrictor> never successfully used ndiswrapper before
<constrictor> my first encounter was in Fedora Core 3 that was a mine field
<DaveMorris> Happy 30h gazzak
<GazzaK> thanks DaveMorris
<DaveMorris> I changed the topic but popey put the old git bit inn :P
<GazzaK> ahhhh
<mrben> GazzaK: oooo - you 30 today
* mrben is 30 in exactly 4 weeks time
*** GazzaK changes topic to "Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://www.ubuntu-uk.org | Ubuntu FAQ: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Gallery/Members add your picture | Next UKTeam Meeting is in #ubuntu-uk on 21st February at 21:00 | Happy 9th 21st Gazzak (you old git)"
<GazzaK> :-)
<GazzaK> thats better
* constrictor is 25 in a week
<GazzaK> I'm 21 again :-)
<GazzaK> mrben, scary isn't it
<DaveMorris> I put in a new dual tuner card in my mythtv box, and it dosen't appear with lspci, I try putting the old one back in and that dosen't appear either :/
<GazzaK> it's like OMG, I have to ACT sensible NOW?
<mrben> GazzaK: well lets see - in 2 weeks I head off to Mozambique (in the summer) to work with a relief project, and in April I'm having my first child
<mrben> so - turning 30 is low on my list of scary right now
<GazzaK> yay, kiddies, woooo
* GazzaK gets broody
<GazzaK> I have a neice, she is fantastic
<GazzaK> niece even
<GazzaK> I want to adopt
<mrben> they're always fantastic when you can give them back...
<GazzaK> mwahhhhhhh (all night long) hehe
<DaveMorris> I've got a nepthew but the mother is a bitch and I've only seen him once since he was born (4 months ago) although they only live 5 miles away
* GazzaK is waiting for the laws to change so he can adopt
<DaveMorris> the discrimnation law?
<GazzaK> yeah, at the moment, I cannot adopt, and even if I find a friendly lesbian, I'd pretty much not get any access
<jayteeuk> Happy birthday GazzaK. Welcome to the oldies club. :)
<constrictor> um popey, how do i extract an exe
<GazzaK> :-)
<DaveMorris> who is the oldest in teh channel? Popey? LoudMouthman?
<chaddy> can't be long for Mrs Ben, now, mrben; April is it?
<mrben> april 7th
<chaddy> everything still going well?
<mrben> yup
<popey> constrictor: if it is a windows sfx just unzip it
<chaddy> good, good
* popey is 34
<jayteeuk> Um... does anyone know why Snort is showing up TCP portscans from Microsoft's IP address range?
<mrben> sore back and lack of energy, but nothing unusual
<mrben> jayteeuk: they've probably been haxxored
<jayteeuk> Is that a typo popey? Shouldn't it be 43?
<popey> O-o
<mrben> jayteeuk: someone sent them an MP3 that says "portscan jayteekuk"
<jayteeuk> :D
<jayteeuk> I just thought someone said popey was ancient, so 34 didn't sound right.
* chaddy is 33, 34 *is* ancient
<mrben> lol
<constrictor> unzip didn't work
<constrictor> are there any additional arguments?
* chaddy would run the .exe in wine, sudo updatedb, grep inf; probably not the most efficient...
<chaddy> s/grep inf/locate inf|grep wine
* chaddy goes off to man unzip
<popey> constrictor: type "file <filename>"
<popey> to find out what kind of file it is
<constrictor> ok
<chaddy> coo, man unzip is a bit of a tome
<popey> but yes, running it under wine is something I have done
<constrictor> MS-DOS executable PE for MS Windows (gui) Intel 80386 32-bit
<constrictor> feel very dumb right now
<constrictor> i was looking at the wrong disk
<mrben> lol
<mrben> doh!
<Seeker`> its too quiet in here
<Seeker`> j #ubuntu-scribes
<constrictor> ok so do i use the NT driver or 9x driver?
* popey ponders ubuntulive
<popey> possibly instead of guadec
<constrictor> ok guys i got something
<constrictor> after installing the inf file i have
<constrictor> net5211 hardware present
<constrictor> what do i do next
<constrictor> ?
<constrictor> i understand i need to blacklist some drivers, how do i do that?
<popey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
<constrictor> thanks
<treb0r> WTF? Environmental Product Innovation
<treb0r> http://sustainit.org/news-archive/news_info.php?refnum=1342
<treb0r> Help save the planet. Install Windows Vista...
<popey> it has good powersaving features :0
<treb0r> Days after the green party were predicting vista induced climate meltdown
<Seeker`> hmm
<Seeker`> apparently, the publics trust in the government is being eroded by this cash for honours thing.
<Seeker`> Its funny, I thought it was their total incompetance that was doing that
<treb0r> SOmebody told me that the UK government were among the largets MS customers in the world. I can believe it.
<treb0r> largest
<constrictor> card works
<constrictor> now i'm going to try it on my belkin
<constrictor> and see if i can get that to work too
<mrben> treb0r: I think it might be the NHS, rather than the UK govt itself
<mrben> treb0r: although tony blair and friends are about as far up bill gates' arse as they are up george dubya's
<treb0r> We are being led into the digital age by people who are not at ease sending email messages.
*** neuro|irssi is now known as neuro_
<treb0r> I wonder how much of the NHS budget flows into redmond?
<chaddy> NHS use a fair bit of Linux, afaik
<mrben> do they? since when?
<chaddy> thought a lot of the back end stuff was *nix
<mrben> hmmm - not sure
<mrben> they certainly have a huge contract with EDS (IIRC) for MS stuff
<mrben> it made the press a couple of years ago (and lugradio, for that matter)
<treb0r> I think that it all comes down to money, and the ecosystems that have a grown up around the proprietary model. In one snese it matters more who plays golf with who, not 'which is best tool for the job'
<chaddy> aye, they have nearly a million NHS licences, but Novell managed to get £40 million or so out of them for back end stuff
<chaddy> s/NHS/MS
<mrben> ah. coolies
<chaddy> and MS got raped for the million licences, perpetual rather than the usual annual deal
<snail> does anyone have hints on getting japanese fonts to work in java for dapper?
<constrictor> sorry snail i don't know
<snail> i tried "for pkg in `apt-cache search xfont | awk '{print $1}'`; do apt-get install $pkg ; done" and installed a metric buttload of fonts, but it's still not working, suggesting that it's at the java end
<jayteeuk> I think I just figured out how to flash my BIOS from a USB key drive using almost entirely free software.
<jayteeuk> Would that make a good recipe for the Ubuntu book?
<chaddy> got a link, jayteeuk?
<chaddy> would like to be able to do that
<jayteeuk> I haven't written it up yet.
<jayteeuk> In fact, I haven't actually tested it yet. :)
<chaddy> oh, you worked out how to do it yourself?
<chaddy> kudos if it works
<jayteeuk> I think so.
<jayteeuk> The only nonfree parts are the BIOS manufacturer's flashing program and the BIOS itself.
<chaddy> isn't it possible to flash a BIOS booting from a CD?
<jayteeuk> It's an Award BIOS, so I'm using PHLASH16.EXE as they don't supply a version of WINPHLASH for XP Pro X64.
<chaddy> hmm
<jayteeuk> It should be, yes. If you've got a CDRW spare, or don't mind using a CDR.
* chaddy always has a spare CDRW, being a reformed distro-whore
<jayteeuk> Only thing is, I'm too nervous to try it now in case I brick my laptop. :)
<constrictor> no guts no glory
* popey arrives back from the pub]
<popey> home time
<popey> ttfn
<jayteeuk> No laptop no glory either. :)
<jayteeuk> I think maybe I'll test that it does at least boot first.
<jayteeuk> If it gets that far, I'll probably write it up.
<jayteeuk> With a warning in big red letters including the words "entirely at your own risk" and "without warranty".
<jayteeuk> I haven't updated my LiveJournal for ages, so it'd make a good return post. :)
<constrictor> that's creepy man
<jayteeuk> What is?
* jayteeuk looks around shiftily.
<mrben> posting technical stuff on livejournal........ *shiver*
<jayteeuk> I do it only through lack of an alternative for the moment.
<jayteeuk> And I will have an alternative fairly soon. But until I get my own web site sorted out, LJ it is.
<mrben> :)
<Seeker`> jayteeuk: What host are you going to use?
<jayteeuk> I'll host it on my own machine to begin with.
<jayteeuk> If it gets popular I'll consider "proper" hosting.
<jayteeuk> brb -- hopefully. :D
<constrictor> coming back after a drought in big red letters saying "entirely at your own risk" is creepy
<cypher_666> greetings
<Seeker`> hi
<cypher_666> just thought i would drop in and say hello, im a recent convert to linux and didnt realise the uk had its own special bits
<GazzaK> we are very special
<cypher_666> :)
<constrictor> welcome to ubuntu-uk cypher_666
<GazzaK> !hi | cypher_666
<ubotu> cypher_666: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-uk!
<GazzaK> so much eaiser :p
<cypher_666> hehe, cool
<GazzaK> arghhh, I won't have internet access for over a week
<jayteeuk> Eeek, how come?
<GazzaK> moving house, and have a week off work
<GazzaK> eeek
<GazzaK> help
<GazzaK> I think I need to see a shrink
<jayteeuk> Internet addiction?
<GazzaK> yeah
<jayteeuk> I feel your pain.
<cypher_666> ive just had a 5 day suspension from the net as i was in hospital...........im so addicted, lol
<GazzaK> how did you cope cypher_666
<cypher_666> i was unconcious for alot of it, so that helped :)
<GazzaK> yeah, suppose so
<GazzaK> what was it?
<GazzaK> you okay now?
<cypher_666> yeah, i was in for testing of a new diabetes drug
<constrictor> hope you didn't get any swolen feet or anything
<constrictor> fingertips still the same colour?
<cypher_666> everything seems to be okay :) my nurses could read and didnt give me 100X the dose like happened to those guys in the news
<constrictor> yeah
<constrictor> i would be nervous about testing a new drug
<constrictor> do you get a lot of money for stuff like that
<constrictor> maybe i should look into it, i'm skint
<cypher_666> yeah, i did under a week and got like 600
<cypher_666> the longer studies, like 17 days are about 3 grand
<constrictor> let me know if you hear any tests for contraceptives or something the that
<cypher_666> lolo
<mrben> constrictor: sadly for you, they only supply the drug, not the means to fully test it...
<constrictor> yea
<constrictor> i reckon that too
<constrictor> damn
<constrictor> lol
<jayteeuk> Anyone have experience with SMTP/IMAP servers?
<cypher_666> nothing more than putting the settings provided to me into thunderbird im afraid :(
<jayteeuk> Colleague asking me for recommendations, that's all.
<GazzaK> I still do not see how i'll remain calm and sane for a whole week and a bit of no internet
<mrben> jayteeuk: I've done it under debian
<mrben> jayteeuk: just used the defaults, though - Exim for SMTP, and Courier for IMAP
<jayteeuk> Locally I use Postfix for SMTP and UW-IMAP (I think) for IMAP.
<jayteeuk> Am I correct in thinking Cyrus does SMTP and IMAP?
<jayteeuk> Looks like it does, but I'm still looking for license info....
<cypher_666> there no ones house you can go and use there net gazza?
<jayteeuk> Piggy-back on someone's wi-fi. :)
<cypher_666> i didnt want to suggest that, but yeah, lol
<GazzaK> might have to
<jayteeuk> With their consent, of course.
<GazzaK> nah :p
*** Pricey is now known as PriceChild
<cypher_666> i thought my wifi box was safe, then i switched to linux and found progs to 'steal' wifi, now im wondering how to secure it against other like minded people, lol
<cypher_666> problem is its a shoddy BT home hub :(
<treb0r> That shoddy home hub runs Linux!
<X3N> and it's your configuration :p
<GazzaK> see ya all on the 12th :'(
<X3N> :o ?
<GazzaK> X3N, i'm off work for a week, house moving, will have no internet
<GazzaK> not sure how i'll cope yet
<X3N> ah
<X3N> i'll print out irc logs and send them via mail to you if you want
<GazzaK> hehe, yay
<GazzaK> is there any meetings i'll miss?
<treb0r> Apparently there is this thing called face to face conversations. Not seen it in synaptic though.
<X3N> probably
<GazzaK> treb0r, I had a had written letter the other day
<GazzaK> I was like O_O wow
<treb0r> I wrote one of them to a girl when I was 18. Many moons ago
<GazzaK> on parchment?
* treb0r blushes
<raws> you can use your hands to write, and like, not type???????
<treb0r> Nope, I chiselled out of a lump of granite
<GazzaK> thats what they say raws
<raws> wtf????? this is cypher_666, where did this name come from?
<GazzaK> majik
<raws> lol
* GazzaK runs off to find aircrack
<jayteeuk> That BT Home Hub of yours is diddling with your IRC traffic. ;)
<raws> and i cant change my nick as its still in use by someone else (me) apparently...............it must have took umbridge to what i said about it, hehe
<raws> it waited till i left the room then punced :(
<Seeker`> GazzaK: Good luck with the move. See you on the 12th
<Seeker`> Enjoy the rest of your bday
<GazzaK> thanks
<GazzaK> byeeee
<Seeker`> hometime :D
<raws> i remember enjoying hometime once.....
<jayteeuk> I don't miss hometime.
<jayteeuk> I had to drive in the morning for the first time in nearly two years today.
<raws> must have been a shock to the system
<jayteeuk> Nothing has been more effective in making me appreciate the value of working from home than sitting in traffic for nearly an hour.
<raws> i used to love working from home, at the moment im not working anywhere ;)
*** raws is now known as cypher_666
<cypher_666> yay
<cypher_666> got my name back :)
<jayteeuk> :D
<cypher_666> granted i used to live 2 mins walk away from work, but theres something refreshing about watching other people go to work and you simply have to dial in :)
<jayteeuk> It is nice for me to be able to stay up till midnight, roll out of bed at 8:30am and have time for a shower and breakfast before starting work at 9.
<cypher_666> :)
<cypher_666> no crappy re-cycled air, no flu constantly doing the rounds
<jayteeuk> And although you have to pay for it yourself, you get to choose the coffee. ;)
<cypher_666> eating proper food that wasnt reformed or overpriced
<cypher_666> its going to be a bit harder to work fromhome in my new profession *body piercer*
<jayteeuk> Oh I dunno...
<cypher_666> well i could, but i dont have the £££ to convert a room to a studio.....yet :)
*** elate1 is now known as elate
<cypher_666> anyone having probs getting on ubuntuforums.org?
<cypher_666> nevermind :)
<PriceChild> cypher_666, we just had our ram upgrade :)
<PriceChild> We're back now though :)
<scotia> did have trouble getting ubuntuforums.org but got there via common questions above
<cypher_666> cool, everyone likes more RAM right?
<stdin> I like it more when it's free :)
<cypher_666> free as in beer? ;) hehe
<stdin> heh, don't care as long as I get it
<cypher_666> ive never managed to upgrade my ram once, ive always planned to, but have just ended up bying a new box each time
<cypher_666> so my wallet always cowers when i talk about upgrades, lol
<stdin> what's more expensive, new RAM, or new PC ? :P
<cypher_666> new pc everytime, i think i must get bored easily or somet
* chaddy got half a gig of free RAM a few months ago, through a bureaucratic oversight, happy days
<cypher_666> beaurocratic oversights are always intresting
<DaveMorris> I can always get free PC100 ram from work
<chaddy> evening Owdgit, twager, jamesbrose1
<jamesbrose1> Hello :)
*** jamesbrose1 is now known as jamesbrose
<jamesbrose> there ;)
<chaddy> even the guy that was full of grim forbodings about an "Ubuntu monoculture" 6 months ago is using it now
<popey> moooooo!
<chaddy> µ
* popey eyes his squid transparent proxy logs and points a finger at his Nintendo Wii
<popey> 1170442461.486 574 192.168.129.204 TCP_MISS/200 320 POST http://rcw.wc24.wii.com/cgi-bin/check.cgi - DIRECT/125.199.254.50 text/plain
<popey> 1170442943.856 854 192.168.129.204 TCP_MISS/200 46211 GET http://news.wapp.wii.com/1/110/news.bin.19 - DIRECT/84.45.224.9 application/octet-stream
<X3N> looks fairly innocent
<popey> sure, just noted it
* X3N notes popey
<popey> BONNNG!
<X3N> looks fairly innocent
<X3N> though looks can be deciving
<chaddy> evening chrisbudden14
<chrisbudden14> hey there chaddy
<chrisbudden14> how are you
<chaddy> happy as a lark
<chaddy> :-D
<chaddy> how's you?
<chrisbudden14> alright thanks
<chrisbudden14> thinking about what i should do this evening
<willskills> PAAAAAARTY
<willskills> I am off out after my pizza gets here :P
<willskills> hopefully sober me up a bit
<willskills> pup after work with no food never a good idea
<willskills> when you finish at 3:(
<willskills> pub~*
<mancub_> lo all
<alecjw> hey mancub
<mancub_> hey was wondering if anyone was about
<mancub_> had a quick question about ubuntu seemed like the place to go
<alecjw> mancub_, no. no-one ever is in here. it's alwys silent here except for the od hell, hi or lo
<mancub_> but the uk channel seems pretty quiet
<mancub_> haha
<alecjw> mancub_, #ubuntu
<mancub_> fair enough
<alecjw> #ubuntu isnt quite so quiet....
<alecjw> in fact there are 1003 people there
<mancub_> dont suppose on the off chance youve had any experience setting up a duel boot system on an HP laptop
<mancub_> :O 1003
<treb0r> it seems to get busier here during the day. geeks at work...
<mancub_> didnt realise was such a big community
<mancub_> haha
<mancub_> work from home so im a geek at all times
<treb0r> what was the question?
<alecjw> mancub_, it's estimated that there are 10 million memebers of the community. to make a dual boot, shrink your windows partition, make an ext33 one and a swap one and you're away
<mancub_> was after advice setting up a duel boot system on an HP laptop
<mancub_> im sure it is possible was jst wondering if it was as simple as all the literatuer says
<mancub_> especially with me being unexperienced
<mancub_> and not wanting to destroy my shiney new laptop
<treb0r> Make sure you have backups beofre anything else...
<mancub_> wise choice
<treb0r> then do what the man says..
<mancub_> so you reckon as long as i take things slowly should be no problems
<treb0r> It's been a while since I dual booted my laptop, which isn't hp, but it worked fine...
<mancub_> ahh cool
<mancub_> they've been stingy and not given me a proper windows cd just the boot files on hdd
<mancub_> hence my apprihencion
<treb0r> The boot files should be in their own partition. leave it alone, and then you still have the option.
<mancub_> ok cool
<mancub_> am i better to shrink my partion before i start or do it during the ubuntu set up procedure
<treb0r> i'll probably get shot for suggesting this on an ubuntu channel, but i used sysresuecd before installing
<treb0r> http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
<mancub_> haha
<treb0r> you can shrink your ntfs partition with a nice graphical tool..
<alecjw> gaprted!
<mancub_> ok guys brilliant will start plotting
<mancub_> looking forward to using ubuntu some tiem soon
<mancub_> thanks for all the help
<mancub_> byee
<treb0r> good luck..
<mancub_> ty
<Nik_Doof> ack avant looks so good but it doesn#t work properly on twinview
<tsmithe> !avant
<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
<tsmithe> !info avant
<ubotu> Package avant does not exist in any distro I know
<tsmithe> ok
<Nik_Doof> http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/
<tsmithe> why has this seen "so" much action today?
<Nik_Doof> umm?
<tsmithe> well
<tsmithe> i've noticed it mentioned in two channels when i'd never heard of it!
<tsmithe> ahhh
<tsmithe> it was on digg
<Nik_Doof> yah :)
<tsmithe> hehe
<Nik_Doof> looks nice, just shame it sits in the middle of my two monitors :)
<LoudMouthMan> ahh
<LoudMouthMan> ping jono .
<LoudMouthMan> jono .. yove got mail.
<jono> yo
<LoudMouthMan> yeah lots of it .. but 1 from me ..
<LoudMouthMan> hello
<jono> LoudMouthMan: cool, will get to it later, not working now :)
<jono> gonna do Jokosher stuff :)
<LoudMouthMan> ahh then im off to Jokosher to ask a q then .
<jono> :)
<Seeker`> lo LoudMouthMan
<LoudMouthMan> hello Seeker`
<LoudMouthMan> well im at the near end of the week and im only 80% of my things done according to my GTD review .
<LoudMouthMan> im just offski I was just popping in with a joko and ubuntu question so ive got them and now its time to get some sleep . BNI this morning was WAY to early .
<LoudMouthMan> ahh I was waiting for the oblig question there <grin> i see everyone is trained then.
<jamesbrose1> *yawn*
<jayteeuk> Night all.
<jayteeuk> Have a great weekend.

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