<GazzaK> you are so straight
* LoudMouthMan enacts the Planes trains and automobile motel room scene...
* LoudMouthMan isnot straight .. he is trysexual.
<popey> THOSE AREN'T PILLOWS!
<jayteeuk> Right, I'd better head off to bed.
<popey> jpc
<LoudMouthMan> heheheh you kno whow this works..
<popey> ooo, new popey subdomain, will try it out on you lot soon when the right time aises
<LoudMouthMan> we all say good night and then one of us says
<LoudMouthMan> Goodnight Jono boy
<GazzaK> night pa
<popey> Goodnight billy bob
<LoudMouthMan> night Gazzak,
<Seeker`> night
<LoudMouthMan> night popey,Night jayteeuk
<GazzaK> owww, are you the daddy then LoudMouthMan
<jayteeuk> Thanks for your comments earlier LoudMouthMan, I'll look at expanding my contributoins section... when I've made more contributions. :)
<LoudMouthMan> yep and I have Shirt that says it as well.
<GazzaK> does that make popey mummy?
<LoudMouthMan> nope . hes he grandpa !
<LoudMouthMan> hes way older than me <grin>
<jayteeuk> Night Jono boy. :)
<LoudMouthMan> an im ancient.
<GazzaK> i'm 30 on friday!!!!
<GazzaK> eeek
* popey is 34
<GazzaK> tom bought me a Ferrari day :-)
* LoudMouthMan says nothing and heads to bed .. night all . Goodnight Jono boy.
<popey> right
<popey> nn
<DaveMorris> Is still young :)
<andy101> night all.
<DaveMorris> I've still got the dishes to do before dinner
<DaveMorris> s/before/from
<Nik_Doof> gah dont belive the quickcam driver throws an oops if too many devices are on the usb bus
<Nik_Doof> seems silly
<welshbyte> ungraceful failure is usually silly
<Nik_Doof> [17523064.916000] ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: leak ed c1990040 (#81) state 2
<Nik_Doof> bah, only debug message i get :)
* X3N quietly murders the lack of proper navigation on launchpad
* stdin mutters "If it was open source...." :P
<X3N> i noticed a bug got assigned to mark shuttleworth on that issue
<X3N> mmm fedora on launchpad, didn't see that one coming
<stdin> heh
<X3N> this is funny https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ticket/3322
<stdin> ahh, some people are just too dumb to own a PC
<X3N> it should be a bit like doing a driving test
<Seeker`> X3N: Everyone learns what to do to pass the test, but then ignores it as soon as they are out of sight of the test center?
<DaveMorris> thats just painfull
<X3N> yeah but they don't completly ignore it
<X3N> otherwise it'd be like in itally
<DaveMorris> looks like his running brezzy
<Seeker`> X3N: You haven't seen some of the people i encounter on the way home from work
<X3N> oh dear
<X3N> you're not one of those people who drive along critasing everyone elses driving are you ?
<Seeker`> X3N: I dont drive. However, this doesn't mean that I dont realise that trying to squeeze a car into a 3m gap while driving along at 60mph isn't terminally stupid
<X3N> heheh
<Seeker`> s/isn't/is
* chaddy wastes a day on DRI drivers
<chaddy> nice little note the left in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to tell me it's broken on my chipset
<chaddy> s/the/they
<X3N> what chipset do you have ?
<chaddy> radeon xpress 200m
<X3N> ah yeah
<chaddy> I misread the wiki, must just have wanted to believe
<X3N> did you do all the frglx and that
<chaddy> fglrx is a waste of time, tbh, the only thing I want it for is Beryl, IME AIGLX is significantly more stable than XGL
<X3N> yeah
<chaddy> at any rate on this machine fglrx/XGL is hopelessly unstable
<X3N> ati cards are a pain in the arse
<chaddy> indeedio™
<X3N> even on doze
<chaddy> one good little thing, though, been having a problem getting full functionality out of my mouse, the DRI driver has at least fixed that
* chaddy realizes he hasn't had the merest morsel yet, today
<X3N> :o
<X3N> just as well you hadn't decided to compile your own kernel and build gnome from svn today then
<X3N> you'd not have eaten for weeks
<chaddy> ;-)
<X3N> I want to setup a poll on ubuntu-uk.org but php seems to be broked
<X3N> spose i could run the form from ubuntu-uk and bung the php etc on another server
<X3N> good idea X3N , why didn't you think of that before
<X3N> ah well, it hadn't really occoured to me that you didn't need anything other than html to render a useful form
<X3N> that's a good point, but you might want to pass information such as IP address to the submit php , spose you can do that using js or something
<dsas> X3N: by having the form submit to another server you can still get IP addresses and stuff.
<mahiti> hi
<mahiti> anybody there?
<popey> morning all
<popey> hello mahiti
<popey> Happy mailman day!
<welshbyte> *yawn* good morning
<popey> *parp* morning
<GazzaK> Morning all :-)
<popey> yo yo yo!
<popey> GazzaK in the house!
<GazzaK> OMG, i'm old tomorrow!!! eeek
* GazzaK phones up the zimmerframe company
* popey orders GazzaK a Stannah stair lift
<popey> and one of those step-in baths
<popey> and a blue plastic car
<GazzaK> maybe I should have bought a bungalow?
<popey> yes
<GazzaK> I used to own a bungalow :p
<popey> friend of mine owns one
<popey> he is older than me :)
<GazzaK> I was 20 when I bought that bungalow though
<popey> blimey
<popey> I didn't even start the house buying lark until 5 years ago
<popey> you must be minted :)
<GazzaK> nope, the bungalow was like £60,0000
<GazzaK> oops, 60,000 that is
<GazzaK> and the flat I started with at 18 years old was £38K
<GazzaK> 38K split two ways is not that much :p
<popey> true
<GazzaK> so thats how I got on the housing ladder
<popey> how much would that place go for today though :)
<GazzaK> the flat, 38K when I bought it, it is now worth £150K
<popey> I dont want to move now
<popey> I'd like to stay here for ~10 years
<popey> already been here 5
<GazzaK> I don't want to move in this country again
<GazzaK> I want to buy in AU now
<sheepeatingtaz> morning all!
<GazzaK> morning sheepeatingtaz
<GazzaK> how are youhoooo
<sheepeatingtaz> cream-crackered
<sheepeatingtaz> you?
<GazzaK> same
<sheepeatingtaz> I'm trying to get the photos of where I got enangaged uploaded to flickr before I go to work. but t'internet is being slow.
<sheepeatingtaz> s/where/when
<GazzaK> I have free broadband at home :p
<GazzaK> 7mbps too
<GazzaK> hehe, thanks BT and you're lack of ability to do anything right!
* sheepeatingtaz cries at his half meg
<GazzaK> I cancelled my BT line, as they took two weeks faffing about over a dsl fault, and then, the day the line went dead for voice calls, dsl was enabled on it at 7mbps
<GazzaK> but I have cancelled all my BT services already :-)
<popey> going cable?
<GazzaK> at the new place yes
<popey> I am currently getting 448 up, 992 down!
<popey> on ADSL Max
<popey> Which is shit
<popey> http://fact.popey.com/
<GazzaK> at home at the mo, it is 448 up and 7xxx down, a large number :p
<GazzaK> O dear, a new subdomain
<GazzaK> lamer.popey.com
<popey> :)
<popey> so, who here is going to LRL07? :)
<popey> 7th/8th July, Wolverhampton
<GazzaK> ewww, who wants to go there!
* popey
<popey> it was fun last year
<GazzaK> what is it? LRL?
<popey> lugradio live
<GazzaK> lug radio - wooooo, me wanna go me wanna go
<popey> :)
<popey> I shall be going
<GazzaK> come pick me up popey
<popey> hahah
<GazzaK> you can take me there, like a date
<popey> last year I had 4 other people in the car
<GazzaK> I'll be your b***h
<popey> dunno if the same people are going there this year
<GazzaK> I might fit in the boot?
<popey> its a volvo, you might not want to :)
<GazzaK> a volvo, eeeek
<GazzaK> not a old 740 or something?
<popey> meh
<popey> hey CieD !
<popey> no, a V70
<GazzaK> ahh, thats just about okay
<popey> which is the newer equivalent :)
<popey> D5
<popey> Taxi!
<CieD> morning :)
<GazzaK> but they are nicer, I like them, just
<popey> I wub it
<GazzaK> is that the one with the funny heater controls, see through?
<popey> funny?
<GazzaK> funny as in odd, not hahahaha
<popey> http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/ag/volvo_v70_25t_2006_dashboard_12_346x270.jpg
<popey> that is roughly what it looks like
<GazzaK> ahh, not the see through one then
<GazzaK> very practical though
<GazzaK> boring however :p
*** chaddy_ is now known as chaddy
<GazzaK> morning Nik
* GazzaK cuddles loudmouthman
<loudmouthman> hugs back Gazzak .. morning dude
<GazzaK> had a comp at shooting last night - I won, yay
<Seeker`> morning all
<GazzaK> morning Seeker`
<chaddy> lo, Seeker`, all
<GazzaK> lalalaaaaa
<mrben> morning all
<chaddy> morning mrben
<mrben> lol
<chaddy> ;-)
* Seeker` has a blog now :D
*** thefish_ is now known as thefish
<GazzaK> really, Seeker` welcome to the geekdom
<Seeker`> http://cjo20.net/blog
<medders> hi everyone
<popey> jono: moo!
* medders is 18 today! :D
<popey> Happy Birthday!
<GazzaK> happy drunk day medders
<medders> hehehe
<medders> cheers :)
<GazzaK> my birthday is tomorrow
<medders> GazzaK: How old will you be?
<Seeker`> medders: Happy birthday
<GazzaK> medders, 30!!!
<popey> Seeker`: do you have to be on vodafone to use that site?
<medders> GazzaK: That's a big one isn't it?
<GazzaK> medders, so they say!
<medders> Birthdays are fun :)
<popey> Seeker`: aaargh
* popey pokes that site with a big stick
<jono> hi
<GazzaK> I got a ferrari day bought for me by my partner :-) a whole day of messing about in a ferrari - nice
<GazzaK> hello jono
<jono> hey
<Seeker`> popey: No
<popey> Seeker`: it lists files and tells me that mediatoob.sis is available for exaple, but wont let me download
<Seeker`> popey: why are you poking it with a big stick
<popey> they aren't links
<popey> and there is no indication how to download
<medders> on another note, what would everyone think of a week-long meetup in Cornwall during the summer?
<medders> i'd be able to find a campsite or something, and get the prices worked out
<medders> we could advertise ubuntu to the tourists on the beachs :)
<Seeker`> popey: You have to be registered to download
<popey> it doesnt say that
<Seeker`> yeah, thats what i just noticed
<popey> "Welcome to downloads. From here you can browse the available applications and download them direct to your PC. "
<popey> lies :)
<GazzaK> medders, I like camping, but in the summer I am often out doing mx5 owner club runs and campouts
<medders> GazzaK: okay, sounds fun
<popey> Seeker`: " If it is a mobile app then transfer the file to your device using your usual method.
<Seeker`> popey: It does say "Sign in or join to access downloads"
<popey> that's ... "vauge"
<medders> It was just a madcap odea anyhow :P
<medders> idea*
<popey> Seeker`: home page --> on left, click projects --> click files..
<popey> no
<Seeker`> popey: I know what you mean
<popey> plus, I dont like the fact that I have to sign up to yet another system just to try out an app
<popey> especially when the developers are expecting feedback from me
<loudmouthman> wow , two more of my old clients pre the split have come back <Grin> and my billed work today means ive hit my targets for feb! I might actually put my feet up tommorow !
<loudmouthman> Seeker cant we get vodafone on Launchpad <grin>
<popey> Seeker`: also, if I go to forums it remembers where I was, if I click "forums" along the top I want to go to the root of all forums
<GazzaK> loudmouthman, as in put you feet up for the whole month?
<popey> thats how every other forum works
<loudmouthman> yeah !
<GazzaK> wow
<Seeker`> popey: That is a problem with the software we modified
<loudmouthman> its not likely to happen though , customers tend to think up new and interresting projects. <grin>
<Seeker`> popey: Am just going to pass on those comments now
<sheepeatingtaz> Seeker`: your blog gets websense'd for me. "the category 'games' is filtered"
<Seeker`> popey: With regards to having to be registered - if you are going to provide feedback via the blogs / forums you have to be registered (which is a condition that the legal department have imposed on us)
<popey> fine, but to download?
<popey> that seems a bit much to me
<popey> especially given voda dont even write the code, they are "just" hosting it
<popey> so it is highly likely I could freely download the same stuff from someehre else
<popey> and likely will if I have to faff around signing up
<Seeker`> popey: I will pass those comments on
<popey> I can understand forcing developers to sign up, but not users
<popey> take cnet downloads, tucows, youtube etc, all have accessible content with no signup required
<Seeker`> popey: I think its becase they want to encourage people to sign up and contribute, rather than download applications and run away
<popey> hahaha
<popey> contribute
<popey> you will get bugger all downloads then
<Seeker`> with regards to the forum link, its on my TODO list
<popey> compared to a site which has no registration
* popey climbs down off his high horse
<Seeker`> There should be a button where the download button would normally be saying that you need to be signed in to download appearing the next few days
<popey> Toon Ar-my!
<popey> Toon Ar-my!
<popey> Toon Ar-my!
<popey> :0
<Seeker`> and there is a section on the help page that explains in more detail about getting your app on your phone. This will be linked directly from download page
<Seeker`> sheepeatingtaz: websensed?
<DaveMorris> where are the logs for yesterdays meeting?
<Seeker`> DaveMorris: They aren't up yet
<Seeker`> http://cjo20.net/bot/ubuntu-uk.20070131_2103.html
<DaveMorris> when they do go up where will they be?
<Seeker`> that is a summary of what happened
<popey> I have the full logs
<Seeker`> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/MeetingNotes/20070131Meeting
<popey> can paste
<DaveMorris> cheers guys
<Seeker`> popey: Can you put the logs on the wiki page?
<popey> will do
<Seeker`> thanks
<sheepeatingtaz> Seeker`: viewing at work, their web filtering package (websense) blocks your site.
<jayteeuk> Good morning one and all.
<Seeker`> :(
<Seeker`> I wonder why
<sheepeatingtaz> If I understand it, it's a local setting (by our admins) rather than a hosted one. GazzaK will probably correct me here
<sheepeatingtaz> on the other hand, loving the betavine :)
<Seeker`> sheepeatingtaz: The site has only existed for 2 weeks
<GazzaK> websense can provide a list of blocked sites, so it might not be your local iT department
<Seeker`> any way i can find out if it is websense?
<DaveMorris> sheepeatingtaz do you go through a proxy?
<GazzaK> they trawl the web and stick sites in groups, ie games, alcohol, porn, guns, etc etc, and your IT department can either choose a default block or select individual groups, or even sites to block or allow
<sheepeatingtaz> DaveMorris: yes
<DaveMorris> I can by pass my works proxy by hitting website on non standard ports
<GazzaK> Seeker`, nothing stops you asking your IT to allow this site
<DaveMorris> ie greenacre.no-ip.com:1067
<sheepeatingtaz> DaveMorris: Oh, I know, I've just tunnelled to goatse.co.uk and viewed it over there, I just wanted to let Seeker` know
<sheepeatingtaz> Seeker`: the websense site has a 'Site Lookup Tool' but you need to be registered
* Seeker` isn't registered
<sheepeatingtaz> neither am I, unfortunately
* sheepeatingtaz looks at GazzaK
<Seeker`> is anyone registered with websense that wants to check my site?
<GazzaK> on t phone
<GazzaK> lol, just got asked for my DOB, and when I said it, she said "happy birthday for tomorrow" hehehe
<Seeker`> heh
<DaveMorris> now we have to remember to sya happy birthday
<sheepeatingtaz> DaveMorris: be a geek, set up a cron job to remind you ;)
<DaveMorris> bloody wiki login page
<DaveMorris> you type your mail in, press tab and it takes you to the create an account link rather than your password!
<DaveMorris> grrr
<Seeker`> DaveMorris: I find that annoying too
<GazzaK> wooo, house insurance has gone down £6 a month :-)
<Seeker`> nice
<Seeker`> GazzaK: you have a websense login?
<GazzaK> no
<Seeker`> :(
<Seeker`> blah
<popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/MeetingNotes/20070131Meeting
<popey> irc log added
<DaveMorris> cheers popey
<constrictor> has anyone any experience in setting up a sort of private CVS server or SVN
<Seeker`> constrictor: some
<DaveMorris> some, on your own machine?
<constrictor> right
<Seeker`> not on my own machine
<Seeker`> but i have some experience with setting one up
<constrictor> now i'm trying to write a little python app and i am using pydev on eclipse
<constrictor> i want to try and cvs it so that i can keep track of it because i have a feeling this might be an on/off project
<constrictor> i have an ubuntu server set up on the office network (not part of the domain)
<DaveMorris> personally you should be using svn as its like cvs ++, not sure if eclipse supports it though
<Seeker`> constrictor: why not just keep regular backups
<constrictor> and i was wondering if there were any good easy to follow tutorials on setting up a cvs repository or something of the sort
<constrictor> i have been doing that for a long time
* Seeker` only continues to use SVN because the company he is working for says he has to
<constrictor> i stillll do
<DaveMorris> http://www.howtoforge.com/debian_subversion_websvn
<constrictor> i just want the experience of svn/cvs you know
<constrictor> it seems like that is what is done in the real world nowadays
<Seeker`> i think there is an svn package
<Seeker`> which sets most of the stuff up for you
<loudmouthman> yayayay ! im in dancing mood.
* schwuk points people at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/737 in case they haven't already seen it
<loudmouthman> schwuk nice !
<loudmouthman> cheers
<constrictor> thanks Seeker` DaveMorris
<loudmouthman> wow and theres no irony that Mr Burger is asking for recipes ?
* Seeker` prods loudmouthman to look at his blog.
<loudmouthman> Seeker yours or mine ?
<Seeker`> mine
<loudmouthman> a moment
<Seeker`> there will shortly be something about ubuntu scribes on there :)
* loudmouthman prods seeker see msg
<jono> loudmouthman: when did you say you can work on that document?
<loudmouthman> jono I didnt: i said id look at it today and start editing over the next few days. is there a deadline ?
<jono> loudmouthman: no, just curious :)
<jono> over the next few days would be cool, ta! :)
<loudmouthman> okay well ive been pulling the list of lists from what we did , what dobbo did and another link im tracking down about ubuntu at fairs ?
<loudmouthman> done
<jono> cool
* constrictor likes metroid
<popey> loudmouthman: infopoints?
<popey> Seeker`: your blog syndicated on ubuntu-uk planet? want to? :)
<Seeker`> popey: not at the moment, i dont know
<Seeker`> popey: Can do
<popey> makes sense
<popey> X3N controls that I think
* Seeker` prods X3N. Lots.
* Seeker` has now blogged about the scribes
<Seeker`> popey: You can add yourself on the planet wiki page
<popey> Seeker`: how?
<popey> you do know I am talking about the ubuntu-uk one and not the ubuntu one?
<Seeker`> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ubuntu-uk.org/planet/
<popey> oooo
<popey> cool
<Seeker`> i assume it hits that page and parses the list before updating each hour
<popey> one would like to think so yes
<Seeker`> lunchtime, i think
<Seeker`> popey: Doesnt look like it worked
<popey> it doesnt refresh very quickly
<popey> let me see when it last spidered me
<Seeker`> on the planet site: Last updated:
<Seeker`> February 01, 2007 12:01 PM
<popey> hmm
<popey> i think the site still has dns issues
<popey> i think it is still polling my old box
<Seeker`> X3N: ping
<GazzaK> i'm off home now, see ya
* GazzaK hates dentists, eeek
<Seeker`> seeya
<loudmouthman> popey ? infopoints ?
<popey> sorry i saw you discussing things with jono, and it looked like infopoint related
<loudmouthman> yes well mostly
<popey> so i figured you may want to speak to the people who run them
<loudmouthman> ill take all i can get to put the document together <grin>
<popey> alan cox and tony whitmore for example
<loudmouthman> will do .
<loudmouthman> though you mean cocks not cox surely ?
<popey> s/cox/cocks
<loudmouthman> gazzak ... stoppit!
<Seeker`> loudmouthman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot
<Seeker`> look just under the table
<Seeker`> loudmouthman: gazzak has gone
<loudmouthman> thank you Seeker`
<Seeker`> is that what you wanted?
<loudmouthman> Yes thanks its always good to be credited appropriately.
<gord> gah, someone please make the world stop saying 'blogosphere', its not big and its not clever >:(
<loudmouthman> but it is blogtastic
<loudmouthman> unless youve got blogged tubes !
<loudmouthman> and speaking of tubes ive got to go fit some cables to improve tube access
<Seeker`> ping X3N
<DaveMorris> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6320865.stm
<DaveMorris> lol
<tito_linux> hi
<Seeker`> hi
<tito_linux> Much going on?
<constrictor> speech recognition hole in vista
<constrictor> lol
<constrictor> now that's funny, i'm not saying this because i'm anti microsoft or anything it's just that your computer can actually tell itself to delete files
<constrictor> who needs viruses
<gord> its hardly a hole though, I mean if a program gets onto your computer and can run sound files then they can delete files and stuff anyway
<mrben> gord: not quite - it's more if someone sends you an audio file, and you play it
<DaveMorris> or in a website
<constrictor> yeah
<tito_linux> Lol!!!
<tito_linux> This is hilarious
<tito_linux> got a link?
<DaveMorris> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6320865.stm
<tito_linux> Hehe, Apple had this problem a while back
<tito_linux> They had to have a keyword system, where you choose a keyword to activate the command.
<jayteeuk> We're having a sweepstake at work.
<jayteeuk> How long till the first real security hole in Vista.
<jayteeuk> I don't think that counts though. :)
<jayteeuk> Funny as it is.
<Seeker`> its a new form of social engineering
<Seeker`> try to get a user to say "delete everything"
<jayteeuk> Include it in the soundtrack to a porn film. :)
<tito_linux> lol
* Seeker` prods X3N some more
<Seeker`> hometime \o/
<X3N> ow
<X3N> i'll do it now
<X3N> done
<jamesbrose__> Can anybody help me set up a wireless usb device on debian?
<tito_linux> Erm, #debian might be easier.
* chaddy only sends people he doesn't like to #debian
<Angela> :o
*** Angela is now known as jamesbrose___
<jamesbrose___> think any of you could help?
<chaddy> give us something to work with
<chaddy> what chipset?
<chaddy> or at least make and model
<jamesbrose___> USB - Belkin
<chaddy> I have one of those
<chaddy> part number and version?
<jamesbrose___> On ubuntu (server) I just add the essid in interfaces and it works
<jamesbrose___> debian doesn't seem to find it
<jamesbrose___> F5D6050
<jamesbrose___> (model no.)
<jamesbrose___> v. 1000
<jamesbrose___> chaddy, yeah..
<jamesbrose___> thats right
<chaddy> where did he/she go?
<jamesbrose___> I'm here :)
<jamesbrose___> chipset = Atmel
<chaddy> http://www.rjmb.net/wireless/belkin-howto.htm ← looks promising
<chaddy> perhaps a bit old
<LoudMouthMan> Evening all.
<LoudMouthMan> wow im effective !
<LoudMouthMan> tum te dum dum ... .
* LoudMouthMan examines his fingernails closely
<PriceChild> evening LoudMouthMan
<LoudMouthMan> Hey Pricechild . i was beginning to think I was in Gallup new mexico
<PriceChild> LoudMouthMan, ubuntu-geek's online but hasn't responded as to how we set things up... I'll just nudge him again :)
<LoudMouthMan> cheers
<chaddy> jamesbrose___: how you liking thon linky?
<Seeker`> X3N: ping
*** jamesbrose1 is now known as jamesbrose
<jamesbrose> boo
<tito_linux> Better Off Out?
<alecjw> brilliant orange opening
* Seeker` prods people
* alecjw jabs Seeker` with a pichfork
* norf-ubu avoids all pokage and sharp instruments and falls back to sleep
* alecjw pokes norf-ubu with a flexy-ruler
<norf-ubu> ....................so tell me alecjw how long have you enjoyed this poking fetish ?
<norf-ubu> <grins>
<norf-ubu> so whats new apart from Vista able to delete files using voice ?
* alecjw jabs norf-ubu with a slice of cheese
<alecjw> back! back ye evil fiend!
<norf-ubu> lol
<norf-ubu> apparently when Vista has the
<alecjw> norf-ubu, it's easier to convert windows users to ubuntu than xp users because vista concentrates maimly on graphics, which beryl can easily beat them at
<alecjw> *vista users
<norf-ubu> "voice activation" on - you can delete files - record a message such as "delete *.*" and let it play back from a web site - back goes c:
<norf-ubu> bang*
<norf-ubu> I'm doing my bit - so far introduced one person to UBUNTU who's now hosting his sites with it
<alecjw> ERRROR ERROR - NO ERROR HAS OCCURRRED - THIS IS A SERIOUS ERROR. PLEASE CAUSE AN ERROR OR WINDOWS WILL SHUT DOWN TO PROTECT YOUR DATA
<norf-ubu> lol
<norf-ubu> usual boot script then for MS
* alecjw counts on his fingers how many people he's fonverted
<alecjw> 3
<alecjw> i think
<norf-ubu> nice one
<norf-ubu> chip chip chip away
<alecjw> one's converted his main computer, the other 2, just spares
<alecjw> and i've got my entire form at school intenrested in it
<norf-ubu> i'm still in the transition stage
<alecjw> i'm the school's linux guy
<alecjw> the ict stafffear me for that reson :D
<alecjw> *staff fear
<norf-ubu> server is Edgy and main XP pro - but as time goes by i tend to spend more time on the server through vnc
<alecjw> norf-ubu, if you dont mind me asking, how old are you?
<norf-ubu> 21+vat several times
<norf-ubu> 37
<alecjw> lol
<alecjw> you shuld have converted far more people to ubuntu than 1 then!
<alecjw> lol
<norf-ubu> hey - this is my 3rd week! gimme a break!
<alecjw> lol
<alecjw> if you need soem advertising pics, see here: http://alecjw.no-ip.org/home/ubuntu-stuff
<norf-ubu> a month ago i couldn't spell Linux........... today I is one :P
<norf-ubu> cheers
<alecjw> lol
<alecjw> i just show people the beryl pic, and thats usually enough
<norf-ubu> which is what tweaked the guys interest that went over to a LAMP server - 20 mins with a PIII with Beryl and he was sold.
<alecjw> lol
<alecjw> i should have a PIII, but i cant afford one - i only have a PI
<alecjw> and w Wii
<norf-ubu> Beryl - the woman that "sold" more ppl ubuntu than 20 years of geeks did :P
<alecjw> hehehehe - true
<norf-ubu> like i say - server is PIII 1Ghz - 512mb and a couple of drives - main pc is P4 2.8 with 2gb but onboard graphics :(
<norf-ubu> and being a half height case - expensive to source a decent AGP card
<jamesbrose_____> Hmm
<norf-ubu> lots of chin scratching there
<jamesbrose_____> I'm using wlan on this old test pc, keep getting "DHCPDISCOVER on Wlan0" etc.. then "No DHCPOFFERS received"
<norf-ubu> jamesbrose_____: is it a telewest connection ?
<jamesbrose_____> Nope
<jamesbrose_____> I can't remember what I did before to get it working
<norf-ubu> ok - thats blown me out of the water then
<jamesbrose_____> Think i need to add the essid to /etc/networking/interfaces?
<Seeker`> jamesbrose_____: What network card?
<jamesbrose_____> Belkin USB..
<Seeker`> what chipset?
<jamesbrose_____> Seeker`, amtel
<chaddy> does it show in network-manager, jamesbrose_____?
<jamesbrose_____> Ubuntu Server..
<chaddy> and what's with the long-tail, btw
<chaddy> ahh, forgot that bit
<jamesbrose_____> grr the drivers don't work :(
<jamesbrose_____> The system knows its there, it just won't connect to the network
<jamesbrose_____> yay ive done it
<jamesbrose_____> !
<jamesbrose_____> :D:D
<chaddy> what was the missing step?
<jamesbrose_____> Restarting /etc/init.d/networking
<jamesbrose_____> (..lol..)
<jono_> hya
<chaddy> evening jono_
<jono_> hey ch
<jono_> chaddy:
<chaddy> you're out of practice, they must be working you too hard ;-)
<rbs-tito> :) I've just made another succesful ubuntu conversion
<rbs-tito> Always makes you feel good

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