| <mdke> jono: "the water cooler situation"??? | |
| <jono> heh | |
| <jono> yeah | |
| <mdke> don't diss the water cooler | |
| <mdke> jono: do you need more mirrors? I'll stick it up | |
| <jono> cool :) | |
| <mdke> what's the fastest mirror to wget it from? | |
| <jono> pickle's I would guess | |
| <mdke> oh yeah :) | |
| <mdke> jono: ok, it's at http://www.mdke.org/tmp/jonobacon-herdingcats.ogg | |
| <jono> thanks mdke :) | |
| <mdke> jono: np, nice job | |
| <mdke> jono: that Rosetta question... it sounds to me like the sort of feature that isn't easy to implement. Probably it requires some detailed analysis from a linguistic perspective, apart from serious coding, I'd guess | |
| <mdke> if the developers have shown interest, it sounds to me like the guy is expecting too much to get a fix quickly | |
| <mdke> it's probably more of a long term thing | |
| <jono> yeah | |
| <jono> his point about dev time and response is indeed valid though | |
| <mdke> well, he mentioned that they'd responded but hadn't implemented it | |
| <mdke> it sounded to me more like a question about closed-sourced ness :) | |
| <mdke> jono: anyway, great talk. very funny | |
| <mdke> jono: no doubt you will now be hammered with requests from locoteams for free laptops | |
| <jono> thanks mdke | |
| <jono> :) | |
| <jono> mdke: added the mirror, thanks very much :) | |
| <mdke> np | |
| <mdke> I have all this bandwidth going to waste | |
| <mdke> ask me again if you have more stuff | |
| <jono> you bet :) | |
| <jono> thanks for the kind words about the talk too, nice to know some stuff in it hit the spot :) | |
| <mdke> I was very impressed by your stage presence :) | |
| <pochu> mdke, fono: free laptops? I want one! :) | |
| <pochu> jono * | |
| <mdke> see? | |
| <jono> mdke: thanks :) | |
| <jono> mdke: still things to fix and improve on, got some great feedback, but it seems to be going smoothly | |
| <jono> pochu: hehe | |
| * mdke nods | |
| <pochu> see you guys! and mail me when you have my laptop ready! I would like it to be a core2duo, wifi a/b/g, bluetooth, 2gbddram2, 100gb hd 7200rpm, cardreader, and a long long life battery :) and if you can, 5 years 24-hours guarranty | |
| <pochu> and of course with ubuntu preinstalled | |
| <pochu> nothing about win2 | |
| <pochu> :) | |
| <pochu> bye :) | |
| <effie_jayx> jenda, ping | |
| <effie_jayx> I have a question | |
| <effie_jayx> I know this fragmentation issue is really a mayor problem | |
| <effie_jayx> but | |
| <effie_jayx> would you consider a latin american team with joined forces from all latin american countries to be another example of fragmentation | |
| <effie_jayx> provided that all of the latinamericans share in a grupo of spanish speakers... | |
| <effie_jayx> ??? | |
| <willys_fueguino> hello?? | |
| <willys_fueguino> hello¿? | |
| <willys_fueguino> Fujitsu: are you there?? | |
| <elkbuntu> willys_fueguino, do continue | |
| <Seveas> smurf, woah, I always misread your name :) | |
| <mruiz> ping jono ! | |
| <jono> mruiz: give me 10 mins, having breakfast | |
| <mruiz> :-) | |
| <EmxBA> smurf: I've sent you a mail regarding locobot, it's been weeks since it and you haven't answered me; what's the problem? | |
| <mruiz> ping jono | |
| <jono> mruiz: pong? | |
| <mruiz> ping jono, elkbuntu | |
| <jono> mruiz: pong? | |
| <elkbuntu> mruiz, pong? | |
| <elkbuntu> mruiz, if you're going to ping, please stay around long enough for quick pongs :-/ | |
| <mruiz> elkbuntu, I let you a private message | |
| <mruiz> elkbuntu, we have an idea about an Ubuntu latin-american portal, for spanish-spoken users. This website must have information about loco teams: websites, forums, news... similar to Gnome hispano. What's your opinion? | |
| <elkbuntu> i've already been talking to willy about this. i believe magicfab was trying for something like this a few weeks back as well. i think it's a good idea, but could benefit from being like this channel is to all locoteams, as compared to a locoteam in itself | |
| <mruiz> this site could improve the inter-loco communication | |
| <elkbuntu> why not be a part of the wiki, and grow onto the current loco stuff? | |
| <mruiz> good idea | |
| <mruiz> also we are thinking to include news from LoCo websites... Do you know if Moin support this feature (using RSS)? | |
| <elkbuntu> no clue | |
| <mruiz> Drupal has this feature. | |
| <elkbuntu> time for sherlock ruiz to investigate ;) | |
| <mruiz> :) | |
| <jenda> mruiz: there will be a meeting regarding spanish speaking loco teams on monday. | |
| <jenda> in #ubuntu-es | |
| <mruiz> time? | |
| <jenda> 7 PM UTC | |
| <mruiz> ok, thanks jenda | |
| <jenda> np | |
| <jenda> The meeting will start out in english | |
| <mruiz> np | |
| <mruiz> agenda? | |
| <jenda> and as soon as there are no more people there that don't speak english... it'll switch to spanish, I guess :) | |
| <jenda> agenda... | |
| <mruiz> :) | |
| <jenda> I believe it'll start out with assembling a spanish locoteam (for spain) | |
| <jenda> and once that's completed, | |
| <jenda> discussing the cooperation of all spanish speaking locos. | |
| <mruiz> yeah! | |
| <jenda> (I believe this will take the form of ubuntu-lat) | |
| <jenda> (and ubuntu-es will be reserved for the now-nonexistant Spanish team) | |
| <mruiz> that's a good idea | |
| <mruiz> many people ask about ubuntu spain | |
| <mruiz> I'll be there! | |
| <mruiz> bye ... | |
| *** alefteris_ is now known as neophile | |
| *** alefteris_ is now known as alefteris | |
| <mdke> smurf, mitsuhiko: around? | |
| <mdke> smurf, mitsuhiko: if you see this, DNS is ready to move on wiki.ubuntu-it.org to 82.211.81.208. I'll email too | |
| <pochu> mdke: are you on ubuntu-eu? | |
| <pochu> I mean, ubuntu-it is on ubuntu-eu servers? | |
| <mdke> no | |
| <pochu> mdke: where are you hosted? | |
| <mdke> on a Canonical server | |
| <pochu> oh | |
| <pochu> mdke, do you mean this?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoHosting | |
| <mdke> well, it's actually a slightly different solution to that | |
| <pochu> in what sense? | |
| <mdke> well, it's not the "typical hosting solution" described there. It's also on a different server to the one used for those teams | |
| <jenda> smurf: could you please LoCoBot #ubuntu-ar? | |
| <jenda> smurf: domain not needed :) | |
| <Mirv> suppose I'd register a new domain name (not .com) as an additional ubuntu-fi domain name and give administrating stuff to canonical/ubuntu, can I just register and give Ubuntu's DNS server addresses to the registrar? | |
| <markvandenborre> they won't want you to | |
| <markvandenborre> they'd want you to assign them copyright | |
| <mdke> markvandenborre: copyright in a domain name? | |
| <Mirv> I know that part, but it's not possible as they can't register a Finnish domain name because they don't have anyone here. (yeah not copyright but I got the point) | |
| <mdke> Mirv: why would you need a second domain? | |
| <Mirv> mdke: people are complaining that it's difficult to remember ubuntu dash fi dot org, instead something.fi would be nice | |
| <Mirv> unfortunately a company has already registered ubuntu.fi, and canonical did not answer if they see it okay or not, but eg. ubuntusuomi.fi would be available | |
| <markvandenborre> Mirv, you might also want to consider the advantage of it being the same globally | |
| <mdke> sounds weird to me, I can understand ubuntu.fi, but not ubuntusuomi | |
| <markvandenborre> mdke, suomi == finland | |
| <Mirv> mdke: ubuntusuomi would be same as ubuntufinland.fi. no dashses. | |
| <mdke> still weird | |
| <mdke> you should investigate ubuntu.fi, and otherwise tell your users to get better memories, IMO | |
| <Mirv> the only reason actually for the new url would be that printing papers or saying something about ubuntu finland is easier without dashes and org, especially now if we talk about "ubuntu-fi" many people think we mean "ubuntu.fi" which is a company's advertisement page (that looks like official ubuntu page...) | |
| <Mirv> yeah, I'm not sure either if it's really needed, it's just a shame ubuntu.fi is not usable | |
| <mdke> chase it up? | |
| <mdke> anyway, there's not likely to be any issue with you registering a domain name yourself, Canonical are very easy going about that, especially for a contributor like you | |
| <Mirv> the ubuntu.fi owner is an ubuntu affiliate, but they are affiliate by a different name linux-tuki.fi, and at least previously I was not sure if canonical knows about their ubuntu.fi site... but now they should since I e-mailed trademarks/info addresses in October | |
| <mdke> have you approached them directly? | |
| <Mirv> mdke: yeah, it's just that when registering they ask for DNS names, and I wondered if I can really just put some ubuntu dns server there or not | |
| <mdke> you should probably use the same nameserver you use for ubuntu-fi.org | |
| <Mirv> mdke: that, too... they're generally reluctant to do changes, because they are eager to get traffic and business on their site | |
| <mdke> we went through a similar process with ubuntu.it | |
| <mdke> in the end we talked him round, and found a solution that was agreeable to us both | |
| <Mirv> mdke: I could try again the direct approach at some point. the biggest issue is that it looks exactly like an official ubuntu site, not a company site that advertises its ubuntu support. | |
| <mdke> ah, ubuntu.it used to do that too | |
| <mdke> that is a more serious issue | |
| <mdke> you can get Canonical to write to them and make them stop that | |
| <mdke> ah, hmm. there is a link to your site at the top | |
| <mdke> still, I'd be inclined to complain | |
| <Mirv> mdke: yes, there is.. they changed some texts there when I last asked, but it's still more than a little confusing. the only place where they mention their company name is in the small texts in the bottom. | |
| <Mirv> oh, plus that problem that they're distributing their own version of ubuntu with their advertisements in Gnome background and own packages, but not saying it's unofficial | |
| <markvandenborre> Mirv, that is not a problem actually | |
| <markvandenborre> (that last thing) | |
| <markvandenborre> I asked Canonical if we could do that with our locoteam | |
| <mdke> well, it is if they are making that out to be an official version of Ubuntu | |
| <markvandenborre> I have an email from them | |
| <Mirv> markvandenborre: ok.. but shouldn't be it marked somehow that it's not official? | |
| <markvandenborre> let me find you the email... | |
| <markvandenborre> http://pastebin.com/872460 | |
| <markvandenborre> Mirv, ^ | |
| <Mirv> markvandenborre: yeah, it's allowed to create such CDs, but telling people "here's Ubuntu download" without marking it's somehow different from the official might be problematic. but anyway it's not that big thing. | |
| <mdke> definitely chase the whole question up with the people who run the site, and Jane in relation to the fact that the site is run like an official Ubuntu site | |
| <Mirv> I sent my e-mails in October to info@canonical.com and trademarks@canonical.com, should I use something different this time? | |
| <mdke> jane.silber, mention you got no reply | |
| <Mirv> okay | |
| <markvandenborre> but do be aware that almost everyone at Canonical is running at like 180% :) | |
| <Mirv> markvandenborre: I'm quite aware of that :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> thats not true .... | |
| <mdke> tbh, trademarks@ is pretty well known for being bad at responding, unfortunately | |
| <LoudMouthMan> jono is on at least 300% .. ive heard his LR shows.. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> haha sorry .. couldnt help dropping in on that one. | |
| <Mirv> LoudMouthMan: hehe :) | |
| <Mirv> eh, getting a possible SOA (Start of Authority) error when suggesting dns1.noris.net as the dns to use. ok, maybe not registering today :) | |
| <LoudMouthMan> think he realised we were talkingabout him ? | |
| <Mirv> maybe... | |
| <Rinchen> markvandenborre, are you still here? | |
| <markvandenborre> Rinchen, yes | |
| <Rinchen> markvandenborre, did you notice the great reference to you in Jono's video? :-) | |
| <markvandenborre> ah, no, sorry, not yet | |
| <markvandenborre> url? | |
| <Rinchen> http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=878 | |
| <markvandenborre> thx, loading right now | |
| <Rinchen> You're about 50% through. | |
| <mdke> nothing bad though | |
| <Rinchen> nothing TOO bad though | |
| * mdke nods | |
| <markvandenborre> :) |