| <tonyyarusso> No, but there was some chat on the ML about trying to get an inflatable tux in the vicinity, maybe | |
| <dominussuus> I'm sending an e-mail to ubuntu-ca along those lines | |
| <tonyyarusso> They were looking for an inverter to power it with - not sure where that would come from | |
| <dominussuus> well there are other options, like a CD drop | |
| <dominussuus> (or just some guy with a fast burner to burn isos since there are about a million places to get CD-R(W) discs nearby) | |
| <tonyyarusso> That would be good | |
| <dominussuus> mail sent | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> lophyte: i think your email server has been blacklisted | |
| <lophyte> ...my email server is gmail | |
| <lophyte> who would blacklist gmail? :P | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> its the dave@dave-... one check out this http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=64.202.166.12 | |
| <lophyte> yeah | |
| <lophyte> its just gmail. | |
| <lophyte> all of my email addresses are gmail | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> really is dave@dave forwareded? | |
| <lophyte> dave@d-s is just an alias | |
| <lophyte> in Gmail, you can set up multiple sending addresses | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> ya theres your problem | |
| <lophyte> works for everyone else | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> it looks like your server that forwards the email has been blacklisted | |
| <lophyte> it goes through gmail though | |
| <lophyte> there's no other servers | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i know but it has to pass thought the blacklisted server first | |
| <lophyte> my email? no it doesn't... | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> have you thought about getting a googl for domain | |
| <lophyte> well, receiving it does | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> there teh issue | |
| <lophyte> if you send an e-mail to dave@dave, it gets sent to my domain host, which forwards it to my gmail account | |
| <lophyte> but if I send you an email, it goes straight from gmail | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> yes that why i reviced you emails but when i try to send to you using Gmail or my system i get an blacklisted smtp error | |
| <lophyte> well that' | |
| <lophyte> 's silly. | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i know i would contact secury server to get un blacklisted | |
| <lophyte> nobody else has had issues sending me email | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> really, try sending an email to yourself from dave@dave to your gmail account | |
| <lophyte> djp sends me email to dave@dave all the time | |
| <lophyte> and my friend sent me an email ffrom his Gmail account today | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> really let me check again | |
| <johanbr> Sorry, I missed the beginning. What's the e-mail address you're discussing? | |
| <lophyte> dave@dave-sullivan.com | |
| <johanbr> Mind if I send you a test e-mail? | |
| <lophyte> sure | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> check out http://www.google.com/a/ | |
| <johanbr> lophyte: Did you get that? | |
| <lophyte> yup | |
| <lophyte> and got your email too, myles | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> okay it most have become unblacklisted today | |
| <Burgwork> anybody have a live site with webalizer on it? | |
| <johanbr> Burgwork: Yes. | |
| <johanbr> Although I've never looked at the webalizer logs. | |
| <Burgwork> right | |
| <Burgwork> how do you control access | |
| <Burgwork> ? | |
| <johanbr> As far as I know, I don't. :) | |
| <johanbr> Are you saying webalizer puts the logs somewhere publicly accessible? | |
| <Burgwork> have you turned on the webstuff? | |
| <johanbr> Burgwork: No. At least, I don't think so. :) | |
| <Burgwork> ah | |
| <Burgwork> if you have, it will be at yourdomain.com/~webalizer | |
| <johanbr> Nope, nothing there. Anyway, can't you control that with .htaccess as usual? | |
| <lophyte> mylesbraithwaite: looks awesome, thanks | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> ya i have it setup on one of my domains | |
| <lophyte> http://dave-sullivan.com/ | |
| <lophyte> I just redid my blog | |
| <lophyte> in Django | |
| <Burgwork> johanbr: yes | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> how come no rss? | |
| <lophyte> it has rss | |
| <lophyte> just not obvious :) | |
| <lophyte> I should add a link for it | |
| <johanbr> Burgwork: Okay. I assumed you asked because you had problems. :) | |
| <Burgwork> I was wondering hwo other people did it | |
| <Burgwork> seeing if there was a nicer solution, as .htaccess is non-incripted | |
| <johanbr> Burgwork: Why does it matter if it's non-encrypted? It doesn't travel over the wire, except when you upload it? | |
| <johanbr> Last ? should be a . | |
| <tonyyarusso> Burgwork: When you say htaccess is non-encryped, what do you mean exactly? I don't usually use htaccess, preferring to do it in the root level apache config since I have that access, but they're similar. | |
| <Nick2> hello, I just installed Ubuntu today and am having problems connecting to the internet. Here is more info on my problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=349798 | |
| <Nick2> can anyone help me with this? | |
| <tonyyarusso> Not really familiar with the process, but: | |
| <tonyyarusso> !adsl | Nick2 | |
| <ubotu> Nick2: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE | |
| <tonyyarusso> Nick2: Does that look helpful? | |
| <Nick2> i already tried sudo pppoe | |
| <Nick2> i mean sudo pppoeconf | |
| <somerville32> Nick2, You need to use the pon and poff commands | |
| <somerville32> And after running pppoeconf, it should ask you if you wish to connect | |
| <somerville32> It won't show up in Gnome's networking dialogue | |
| <Nick2> at the end of running pppoeconf it asked me if i wanted to start the connection now and i said yes. it still didn't work | |
| <somerville32> type: pon dsl-provider | |
| <somerville32> What is the error message? | |
| <somerville32> After typing pon dsl-provider | |
| <somerville32> type, plog | |
| <Nick2> ok thanks, i will try this | |
| <mbb> anyone from Victoria use the GVPL (library) wi-fi with ubuntu? Last time, I recall it only worked with internet explorer. | |
| <tonyyarusso> mbb: Burgwork, Madpilot, and I think one other are your Victoria contacts. How does it work that it's IE-only? That's weird. | |
| <Madpilot> shouldn't be - I know Corey uses his laptop at the library here | |
| <tonyyarusso> (brb - my stomach is getting really upset at how long it's been since I ate) | |
| <mbb> it's been a few months, think it wouldn't even work with firefox under windows. required a background ie window to keep the wifi alive. | |
| <mbb> I now forget what gateway software they use. not too sure why they bother, it's free, but you must have a library account number and password. | |
| <tonyyarusso> That's weird. My lib at home just requires you to accept a Terms of Service, and works fine in FF. | |
| <tonyyarusso> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/01/30/harper-kyoto.html | |
| <tonyyarusso> Oh our lovely Harper | |
| <dabaR_> what's robitaille's irc nick? | |
| <dabaR_> btw, tonyyarusso I love your crazy look:) I just saw it for the first time a few days ago on the ubuntu planet, and you look totally cool with the orange hair and the big smile. | |
| <tonyyarusso> dabaR_: Launchpad says robitaille on network freenode.net | |
| <tonyyarusso> :) | |
| <tonyyarusso> The hair is, of course, natural. | |
| <dabaR_> Ya, I thought so. | |
| <dabaR_> Ya, I thought I saw his nick like that before. | |
| <dabaR_> But he is not here...what gives:) | |
| <dabaR_> I guess I am never here either:) | |
| <dabaR_> Ya, I thought so.(about the hair, it looks natural.) | |
| <Madpilot> meh, missed dabar - was going to say that Daniel is often on after 11pm | |
| <tonyyarusso> is he? I'd think I'd see him more. Must be quietish | |
| <Madpilot> ya, he shows up but doesn't often actually start conversatoins | |
| <kupesoft> Where can I find out more about setting up a linux box with a few ethernet cards and a wireless card in to a gateway/router (like the famous Linksys ones)...? | |
| <tonyyarusso> Burgwork: Were you looking into this? http://www.freemillionpixelspage.com/ | |
| <lophyte> gah, I really wish we had a plan of action for this Microsoft Ice House | |
| <lophyte> but no CDs and a half-operational inflatable Tux dims the situation a bit | |
| <rexbron> hey has anyone elses launchpad karma gotten reset? I went from over 300 000 to less than 1500..... | |
| <tonyyarusso> rexbron: https://help.launchpad.net/KarmaReductionJan07 | |
| <tonyyarusso> I went 1,250,000 to 2500. | |
| * rexbron cries | |
| <tonyyarusso> I know | |
| <Burgwork> tonyyarusso: yes, I have, but realized we couldn't really get anything for it | |
| <tonyyarusso> Burgwork: ah, all right | |
| * tonyyarusso shocked he eventually remembered what the question was | |
| <Burgwork> wow | |
| <Burgwork> I shrunk to 5000 | |
| <tonyyarusso> It's really depressing, isn't it? | |
| <tonyyarusso> gah. one of my housemates is cooking with onions and they're taking over the ventilation | |
| <ryanakca> lol | |
| <ryanakca> tonyyarusso: did you get that /msg I sent to tonyyserver about a bad GPG signature on a message you sent to the -ca mailing list? | |
| <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: err, no. I would have in a few weeks. :P | |
| <tonyyarusso> I thought we'd fixed that? | |
| <ryanakca> so did I :) | |
| <ryanakca> it had been fixed, and your signature was showing as valid... but KMail and GPG seem to be whining about it again... | |
| <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: Okay, key ID and fingerprint? | |
| <tonyyarusso> I show 5154 30AA FEDF B82A C455 C081 EA23 BEE4 1C94 8BF4 for ID 0x1C948BF4 | |
| <ryanakca> pub 1024D/1C948BF4 2006-04-26 [expires: 2009-01-01] | |
| <ryanakca> Key fingerprint = 5154 30AA FEDF B82A C455 C081 EA23 BEE4 1C94 8BF4 | |
| <ryanakca> it matches... | |
| <tonyyarusso> odd.... | |
| <tonyyarusso> Burgwork: Do you check keys on e-mail? Can you confirm this? | |
| <Burgwork> if you signing somebody elses key, you need to do that in person | |
| <ryanakca> Burgwork: we aren't signing... | |
| <tonyyarusso> Burgwork: Not signing - he's saying it shows up unvalidated in KMail :P | |
| <Burgwork> you are just verifying the key? | |
| <Burgwork> you can query a keyserver online | |
| <ryanakca> we're wondering why GPG says that the signature on the email he said is invalid | |
| <ryanakca> s/he said/he sent | |
| <Burgwork> no idea, sorry | |
| <ryanakca> eee gad... 5300 karma... | |
| <tonyyarusso> You don't have key checking in your e-mail client? | |
| <ryanakca> key checking? | |
| <tonyyarusso> seeing if it's valid | |
| <tonyyarusso> I thought Burgwork of all people would have that ;) | |
| <tonyyarusso> so we could see if anyone else is showing mine as bad, or if it's just you ryanakca | |
| <ryanakca> yeah | |
| <tonyyarusso> Oh, wait. Maybe it is bad. | |
| <tonyyarusso> A sec. | |
| <ryanakca> lol | |
| <tonyyarusso> It says one of my self-signatures is bad | |
| <ryanakca> heh | |
| <ryanakca> the email I'm talking about was sent at 00:23 today... microsoft ice thingy reply | |
| <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: Refresh my key, then go check your mail. | |
| <ryanakca> kk | |
| <rexbron> tonyyarusso: I sent you an email re: exired sub key | |
| <rexbron> basically, your signature expired at the start of this year | |
| <tonyyarusso> rcv | |
| <tonyyarusso> rexbron: How do I go about fixing it exactly? I resigned the key - do I need to delete an old sig or anything like that? | |
| <rexbron> edit the key, change the exipreation on the Elgamail subkey and reupload and get everyone to refresh | |
| <rexbron> tonyyarusso: ^ | |
| <tonyyarusso> ok | |
| <tonyyarusso> Should be good now. Try syncing and see if it's changed rexbron | |
| <rexbron> tonyyarusso: we good | |
| <tonyyarusso> I thought the subkeys updated automatically when you changed the expiry overall. Oops | |
| <tonyyarusso> cool | |
| * tonyyarusso wonders if he has to update LP too.. | |
| <rexbron> if the key is stored there then yes, if its just the id, then no | |
| <ryanakca> tonyyarusso: same problem... oh well... | |
| <ryanakca> I'll just guess it's from you... it doesn't really contain anything important enough for me to have to make sure it's from you.. | |
| <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: not for now anyway. let me know if it gets fixed as you see it | |
| <ryanakca> kk | |
| <ryanakca> are we/they still planning that nation wide install fest? | |
| <tonyyarusso> That'd be cool. Just needs organization. | |
| <ryanakca> yeah | |
| <ryanakca> last I heard about it was in december... and they were planning for march | |
| * ryanakca wonders about Dell... | |
| <tonyyarusso> Sent an e-mail ;) | |
| <tonyyarusso> Why March? | |
| <ryanakca> On their TV ads, they claim that the customer can fully customize their PC... but they don't let you select an OS.. which means you can't fully customize your PC... which means it's false advertising | |
| <tonyyarusso> *Send, not sent | |
| <ryanakca> tonyyarusso: dunno | |
| <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: Give them a lawyerish call - see what they say. | |
| <tonyyarusso> I dare you. | |
| <ryanakca> lol | |
| <tonyyarusso> They have 800 numbers, right? You know you want to. | |
| <ryanakca> what's the name of that organisation that takes legal action against companies who have false advertising... | |
| <ryanakca> Canadian something or other | |
| <ryanakca> I just email them about it :) | |
| <tonyyarusso> The trick is to pretend you're on their website trying to spend money on a system, but can't find one without Windows, so aren't buying. | |
| <tonyyarusso> BBB probably. | |
| <ryanakca> yeah... it's one... but not the one I'm thinking of... | |
| <ryanakca> umm... Goverment owns it iirc | |
| * ryanakca goes to find the ad they had in RD | |
| <tonyyarusso> oh | |
| * ryanakca twiddles while waiting for his upgrade to finish, so he can reboot in hopes of fixing his kde problems | |
| <ejer> ryanakca: if you are talking about dell, they have a new series of systems n-series, which come with no OS by default | |
| <tonyyarusso> ejer: I have yet to see proof of that though | |
| <tonyyarusso> When you can produce a link to a system that I can purchase, I'll believe it | |
| <Burgwork> however, they are promising "full customization" on all computers, afaik | |
| <ejer> ya | |
| <Burgwork> tonyyarusso: you should also look at the fine print | |
| <ejer> not defending them, just saw it on dell.com | |
| <tonyyarusso> Burgwork: I haven't even seen the big print yet | |
| <ejer> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs | |
| <tonyyarusso> ejer: Thank you. | |
| <ejer> more models here http://www.dell.com/nseries | |
| * ryanakca looks | |
| <ejer> why freedos though? | |
| <Burgwork> because they don't want to actually install the Linux | |
| <ejer> I guess it is more agnostic than a linux system | |
| <ryanakca> Burgwork: can I smell False Advertising and a lawsuit by that organisation who's name I have yet to find/remember :) | |
| <tonyyarusso> ejer: cheap freebie to throw on so that technically they aren't selling no-OS systems | |
| <ejer> but they do have linux workstations | |
| <Burgwork> and most distros don't have OEM installers | |
| <ryanakca> kubuntu does :) | |
| <ejer> but dell is free to rebrand ubuntu, no? | |
| <ejer> to a certain degree | |
| <tonyyarusso> Yes. | |
| <Burgwork> yes | |
| <Burgwork> but that would mean choosing a distro | |
| <tonyyarusso> They could have a full derivative - the only thing we restrict is the trademark | |
| <ejer> well, not paying the windows tax is nice to begin with | |
| <ejer> if in fact it works out that way | |
| <ryanakca> windows tax? | |
| <ejer> paying for windows on a bundled machine you don't intend to use windows on | |
| <ejer> like almost all laptops | |
| <ejer> of course I payed the osx tax on my last one.... | |
| <johanbr> It really bugs me that HP offers completely customizable laptops in the US - including not having an OS, but they don't do that in Canada. | |
| * ejer is waiting for his OLPC | |
| <johanbr> Has anyone tried not accepting the Windows license and sent the CD back to the manufacturer for a refund? | |
| <ejer> lots of people have | |
| <johanbr> In Canada? | |
| <ejer> http://www.boson2x.org/article.php3?id_article=100 | |
| <tonyyarusso> johanbr: I refused the license, and documented. I haven't tried to get the refund yet. | |
| <ejer> http://www.targetpc.com/business/news/77.html | |
| <johanbr> tonyyarusso: Alright, cool. Please keep us posted. :) | |
| <tonyyarusso> johanbr: http://blog.tonyyarusso.com/ and the ubuntu-ca ML will surely carry the news if I succeed (and probably if I fail too) | |
| <ryanakca> tonyyarusso: was it a Dell? | |
| <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: IBM | |
| <ryanakca> tonyyarusso: ah | |
| <ryanakca> tonyyarusso: technically, and legally, it wouldn't work if you bought from Dell in Canada... the fine print says that the Operating System is Part of the package, and that you can't return one without returning the other... | |
| <ryanakca> or something of the sort :( | |
| <ryanakca> anywais, brb, reboot | |
| <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: Really? huh. | |
| <johanbr> ryanakca: But that's not what the license says. | |
| <tonyyarusso> johanbr: Yeah, when he gets back ask where that fine print is. It could be in the license. | |
| <tonyyarusso> I know mine didn't say that :) | |
| <johanbr> tonyyarusso: I think the Windows license is the same no matter where you get Windows from. I could be wrong, though. | |
| <tonyyarusso> johanbr: I believe you are wrong, yes. | |
| <tonyyarusso> I think they can be OEM-modified. | |
| <tonyyarusso> I too would have to check though | |
| * tonyyarusso --> class now | |
| <ryanakca> johanbr: I know :) | |
| <ryanakca> rofl | |
| <ryanakca> hehe... 64GB, DDR2 SDRAM FBD Memory, 533MHz, ECC in Riser (16 DIMMS) [add $49,500] on http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?cs=04&oc=bwcw1n6&m_11=RH6441Y&m_1=T3014N&c=us&l=en&s=bsd&kc=6W463 | |
| <ejer> oh man | |
| <ryanakca> lol | |
| * ryanakca is looking for the most expensive computer... | |
| <ryanakca> just because I'm bored :) | |
| <ryanakca> if someone want's to donate the 100 000USD for me to get it, I'm all for it :) | |
| <Jasra> Hi | |
| <Jasra> I seem to have trouble with my screen resolution. I`m using an NVIDIA card. I can't seem to make it higher than 1024x768. Anyone help? | |
| <Jasra> Please ? | |
| <Jasra> :[ | |
| <Burgwork> hmm, never had an nvidia card | |
| <ryanakca> 67 472USD so far :) | |
| <Burgwork> ryanakca: help the poor man | |
| <Burgwork> I have to work | |
| <ryanakca> never used NVidia | |
| * ryanakca wants one though | |
| <Jasra> *nod* Thank you. | |
| * ryanakca is stuck with an old ATI :( | |
| <ryanakca> oh... I see | |
| <ryanakca> open up a Terminal | |
| <ryanakca> run the command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' | |
| <Jasra> me? | |
| <ryanakca> yeah | |
| <ryanakca> it'll ask you some questions... | |
| <ryanakca> and it'll let you add/remove resolutions. | |
| <Jasra> Yes. Note than I`m all new to Ubuntu ;) | |
| <ryanakca> lol | |
| <ryanakca> if you're wondering about any of the questions, just ping me | |
| <Jasra> wel; | |
| <Jasra> I answered Yes to the first one | |
| <Jasra> and then selected nvidia | |
| <ryanakca> there's one screen asking about loading things like dri, fglrx, etc... ignore it | |
| <ryanakca> ok :) | |
| <Jasra> Amount of memory to be used by the video card | |
| <Jasra> How much do I put here ? | |
| <ryanakca> leave the default | |
| <Jasra> it`s none | |
| <ryanakca> if you have a nice video card, you don't need it... iirc, it's mainly for really old ones | |
| <ryanakca> ok | |
| <Jasra> Use kernel framebuffer ? | |
| <ryanakca> umm... It says it should be safe to do so, right? | |
| * ryanakca has it on | |
| <Jasra> yes | |
| <ryanakca> kk, turn it on :) | |
| <Jasra> X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default | |
| <ryanakca> leave the default | |
| <ryanakca> 75 875USD... hehe... for a computer from dell :) | |
| <ryanakca> 86 438 is the most expensive one | |
| <ryanakca> Jasra: when your done, log out and log back in. | |
| <Jasra> Desired color depth in bits ? | |
| <Jasra> I leave it to the max. | |
| <Jasra> still can't change resolution | |
| <sfllaw> Who's going to UbuCon? | |
| <sfllaw> And is anyone coming to Montreal for CFP2007 and LGM2? | |
| * MagicFab just found out he'll be at Ubucon :) | |
| <Burgwork> MagicFab: canonical sending you? | |
| <Burgwork> sfllaw: I wish | |
| <Burgwork> no time | |
| <MagicFab> Burgwork, Google + Canonical, kinda | |
| <Burgwork> nice | |
| <Burgwork> fly the canadian flag | |
| <MagicFab> I was going anyways, the difference is now I have to give a talk | |
| <sfllaw> MagicFab: Well there you go, Google is paying for your trip. | |
| <sfllaw> How can you lose? | |
| <MagicFab> sfllaw, exactly! | |
| <sfllaw> MagicFab: Giving a talk is not a bad thing. Brush up on your public speaking skills, meet some people, get drinks bought. | |
| <sfllaw> :) | |
| <MagicFab> oh, don't worry, I love doing that. But as you wrote/said somewhere, the challenge is to even have something interesting to say at all | |
| <MagicFab> I have a few ideas, I'll have to ask >Jeff what I can talk about (re: support) etc. or not | |
| <Burgwork> one excellent topic would be hwo support interacts with the rest of the community | |
| <Burgwork> ie; when support files bugs, etc. | |
| <MagicFab> crappy connection dropping here... :( | |
| <MagicFab> crappy connection dropping here... :( | |
| <Burgwork> did you see what I said? | |
| <MagicFab> of course it'll be something about support | |
| <MagicFab> and all the mistery surrounding it | |
| <MagicFab> :) | |
| * tonyyarusso reads backscroll to see if anything interesting happened | |
| <tonyyarusso> sfllaw: CFP2007 and LGM2? What are those? (I'm only like four or five hours from Montreal) | |
| <matjan> i'd like to know also... i am in mtl :-) | |
| <sfllaw> tonyyarusso: Computers, Freedom & Privacy. | |
| <sfllaw> matjan: Libre Graphics Meeting | |
| <tonyyarusso> sfllaw: Ah, so like trusted computing, etc. legislation discussion sorts of things? | |
| <sfllaw> CFP is a hacker conference about how freedom and privacy are being affected by current policies and technologies. It runs from 1-4 May. | |
| <sfllaw> http://cfp2007.org | |
| <sfllaw> The LGM is a melting pot for graphics developers and artists to plan the future of free graphics. | |
| <sfllaw> http://lgm.scribus.net/ | |
| <matjan> hehe, lgm is even at my school | |
| <sfllaw> It's happening 4-6 May. | |
| * tonyyarusso wonders about admission - looks it up | |
| <sfllaw> tonyyarusso: Which one? | |
| <tonyyarusso> sfllaw: CFP | |
| <sfllaw> tonyyarusso: I expect CFP won't be very expensive. | |
| <Burgwork> cfp | |
| <Burgwork> ? | |
| <tonyyarusso> Can't find anything saying a cost at all - just accommodation is mentioned | |
| <tonyyarusso> sfllaw: There's a good chance I'll just be sitting on my bum on those dates too | |
| <sfllaw> Burgwork: Computers, Freedom & Privacy. See above. | |
| <Burgwork> ah, see it | |
| <sfllaw> Also, BarCamp Montreal 1 is happening soon. 27 February at the SAT. | |
| <sfllaw> s/Bar/Demo/ | |
| <sfllaw> http://barcamp.org/DemoCampMontreal1-en | |
| <matjan> sfllaw, geez... a lot going on here | |
| <sfllaw> matjan: We just got sick of Montreal being all arts and no tech. | |
| <sfllaw> :) | |
| <tonyyarusso> I'm going to see if I can compile this chat program Brian from the ML is attempting to use... | |
| <matjan> sfllaw, hehe... you can get the combination of the two also | |
| <matjan> SAT being a good example | |
| <sfllaw> Well, you know, Montreal is pretty artsy. | |
| <sfllaw> :) | |
| <lophyte> hey folks | |
| <tonyyarusso> hi lophyte - any action there yet? | |
| <matjan> sfllaw, i know, great, isn't it? ;-) | |
| <lophyte> for what? | |
| <tonyyarusso> lophyte: the Toronto ML chatter | |
| <lophyte> still no power supply for Tux | |
| <lophyte> I'm happy to use my laptop as a demo system | |
| <lophyte> but we need either CDs or literature to hand out | |
| <tonyyarusso> yeah | |
| <lophyte> or both ideally | |
| <sfllaw> lophyte: Hey. | |
| <lophyte> hiya | |
| <lophyte> can Canonical Montreal get a batch of CDs to Toronto by Saturday? :) | |
| <tonyyarusso> MagicFab: ^^ ? | |
| <lophyte> we can probably make a move for Friday | |
| <lophyte> if we can get some literature printed out | |
| <tonyyarusso> that'd be good | |
| <lophyte> even if we can't get Tux | |
| <MagicFab> tonyyarusso, yes | |
| <tonyyarusso> :) | |
| <MagicFab> wait | |
| <MagicFab> I was replying to your ping, just saw the request about CDs | |
| <MagicFab> I have to say it's really horrible... but I actually got this job thinking i could get some CDs :) | |
| <MagicFab> and it's not the case | |
| <MagicFab> I am partially kidding, but seriously, I haven't seen a single CD here since I arrived. | |
| <tonyyarusso> huh | |
| <MagicFab> so... no way to cheat on that with us :( | |
| <lophyte> awww. | |
| <lophyte> well thanks anyway :) | |
| <MagicFab> Jono Bacon is still your safest bet for "official" CD requests from a team I guess | |
| <lophyte> indeed.. but by Saturday is a bit tough | |
| <Burgwork> theoretically we will get edgy cds | |
| <Burgwork> as we are now approved | |
| <lophyte> yup, but again.. not by Saturday | |
| <Burgwork> nope | |
| <MagicFab> Has Burgwork already asked for ubuntu-ca's share of CDs ? I am hoping some of those are saved for ubuntu-qc :) | |
| <Burgwork> I need to ping jono I guess | |
| <Burgwork> I imagine most will go to Toronto and -qc | |
| <lophyte> I need to order CDs from shipit.. we need to have a supply that are ready to go for things like this | |
| <MagicFab> what's on saturday ? I just usually grab a bunch of the older CDs and cross the version number with a thick marker... :D | |
| <tonyyarusso> I can't order from ShipIt anymore - they won't approve anything. | |
| <lophyte> the Microsoft Ice House closes on Saturday | |
| <MagicFab> It has to be the official contact who orders | |
| <ryanakca> tonyyarusso: they won't approve anything? | |
| <tonyyarusso> ryanakca: nope. | |
| <ryanakca> heh | |
| <lophyte> I just fired off an email to the ML, proposing a plan of action and a date/time | |
| <MagicFab> CDs are not that important. I would say printing flyers with free software info / ubuntu info and ubuntu-ca meeting venues would be best | |
| <lophyte> I'll bring my Ubuntu posters | |
| <tonyyarusso> I've been turned down I think three times now. At first they said it was b/c it was the same release cycle, but then Edgy came out and it was still no dice. | |
| <ryanakca> yeah | |
| <lophyte> I'll post up an Ubuntu poster right on to the Windows Vista sign | |
| <Burgwork> yes | |
| * ryanakca hasn't had any problem ordering... | |
| <Burgwork> we need a good simple poster | |
| <ryanakca> lophyte: lol | |
| <ryanakca> yeah | |
| <ryanakca> and a french version of it as well | |
| <Burgwork> having some cds if people stick around long enough is good | |
| <Burgwork> which for a big event is only maybe 50 | |
| <Burgwork> ie: make them "earn" a cd | |
| <lophyte> there will be hundreds of people there | |
| <MagicFab> Burgwork, yep, never just give them away. | |
| <lophyte> if they seem interested, give them one :) | |
| <Burgwork> if they are interested, give them a brochure | |
| <Burgwork> if they stick around for a demo, give them a cd | |
| <lophyte> good call | |
| <lophyte> maybe we should print off the brochures we used for SFD | |
| <Burgwork> yep | |
| <lophyte> but that involves folding | |
| <lophyte> so.. maybe not | |
| <lophyte> I really don't wanna miss this opportunity | |
| <Burgwork> is friday the day they are celebrating vistas launch? | |
| <Burgwork> too bad, as I was scheduled be in town too | |
| * ryanakca hopes they at least take pictures | |
| <lophyte> that was tuesday, Burgwork | |
| <Burgwork> ah | |
| <Burgwork> what is friday? | |
| <lophyte> nothing.. just a day | |
| <lophyte> the Ice House is holding demos every day between Tuesday and Saturday | |
| <Burgwork> so you are going to bust it up | |
| <Burgwork> nice | |
| <lophyte> I proposed Friday because its the end of the week, lots of people will be there, and it gives us 2 days to prep | |
| <ryanakca> yeah | |
| <lophyte> we can approach people that are waiting in line to see Microsoft's latest revolutionary crap and show them our revolutionary awesomeness | |
| <Burgwork> for free | |
| <lophyte> exactly | |
| <Burgwork> make certain you have compiz | |
| <lophyte> I can't do it on my laptop | |
| <lophyte> but others.. maybe | |
| <tonyyarusso> compiz is sketchy on mine too - surely one of those folks has a good one though | |
| <lophyte> ATI Mobility 16MB here | |
| <tonyyarusso> I have more mem than that, but still ati | |
| <Burgwork> ati is no good | |
| <Burgwork> you need a modern intel or nvidia chipset | |
| <tonyyarusso> I wish I'd known that before buying this. | |
| <Burgwork> yep | |
| <Burgwork> what about a shuttle pc? | |
| <tonyyarusso> shuttle pc? | |
| <Burgwork> small pc | |
| <tonyyarusso> ah | |
| <tonyyarusso> That could work too | |
| <tonyyarusso> probably safer in the weather anyway | |
| <lophyte> I think laptops are fine | |
| <lophyte> they're fine IN the tent apparently | |
| <Burgwork> you guys are going to have a tent? | |
| * ryanakca wishes he was there | |
| <lophyte> no | |
| <lophyte> the Microsoft tent | |
| <lophyte> Jane said on the ML that its only a few degrees warmer IN the Microsoft tent, and they have laptops, LCD monitors and plasma screens | |
| <ryanakca> just warm it up :P | |
| <ryanakca> in python: | |
| <ryanakca> while 1: | |
| <ryanakca> pass | |
| <lophyte> lol | |
| <lophyte> waste battery power too :P | |
| <ryanakca> yeah | |
| <tonyyarusso> French speakers - anyone want to translate the jist of http://www.boson2x.org/article.php3?id_article=100 ? | |
| * ryanakca looks | |
| <ryanakca> ok... umm... AFUL (French Association of Linux and Free Software Users) decided to join a demonstration on the World Intellectual Property Day to better inform the public on the financial and social role of software copyright and to denounce quasi-institutional tolerance towards piracy | |
| <ryanakca> the quasi-institutional part is a guess at the translation... | |
| <tonyyarusso> all right, ty | |
| <ryanakca> that's the header paragraph... | |
| <lophyte> I might have access to a camera to videotape the event | |
| <ryanakca> s/quasi-institutional/almost institutional | |
| <ryanakca> lophyte: nice :) | |
| <lophyte> we'll have to see who else is jumping on the bandwagon | |
| <lophyte> rexbron: tell me you are | |
| <ryanakca> one of the stats they mention is that 79% of french engineering students use pirated software | |
| <ryanakca> yorku... that's in toronto, right? | |
| <lophyte> yup | |
| <ryanakca> rexbron: you should get yourself a cloak :) | |
| <ryanakca> lophyte: since he's in Toronto... Of course he'll make it :) | |
| * ryanakca wishes he had a car... or could somehow get to Toronto | |
| <ryanakca> but then... a car wouldn't be much use... since I can't drive... | |
| <lophyte> lol | |
| * lophyte prods rexbron | |
| <tonyyarusso> you can't drive? | |
| <tonyyarusso> Oh wait, you're 14 | |
| <tonyyarusso> nvm | |
| <ryanakca> lol | |
| * ryanakca debates on building a Desktop... or buying a laptop... | |
| <lophyte> laptop :) | |
| <ryanakca> yeah | |
| <ryanakca> a laptop I can take anywhere... | |
| <ryanakca> the Macs look nice... and I wouldn't mind dual booting into MacOSX... but... their pricey | |
| * ryanakca wonders on getting his parents to pay half... | |
| <lophyte> my dell latitude is all i need | |
| <ryanakca> it would take me ages to get 1500$ | |
| <ryanakca> lophyte: hmm... can it run Beryl? | |
| <lophyte> no :\ | |
| * ryanakca wants to be able to run Beryl... and be able to run a pbuilder without it slowing down | |
| <Burgwork> beryl is crap | |
| <Burgwork> use compiz | |
| <ryanakca> lol | |
| <ryanakca> people were telling me compiz is crap, use beryl a couple of months ago :) | |
| <lophyte> we need a press release for Feisty | |
| <lophyte> so we can send it out to the media when it comes out | |
| <ryanakca> hmm... looks like NCIX has notebook assembly... | |
| <Burgwork> canonical will write one | |
| <Burgwork> ncix is crap | |
| <ryanakca> lol | |
| <ryanakca> Burgwork: what do you suggest? | |
| <Burgwork> buy tier 1 | |
| <Burgwork> lenovo, toshiba, dell, acer, etc. | |
| <tonyyarusso> lophyte: I've been sending notes to that effect to Christina Armstrong - you could do the same | |
| <lophyte> who? | |
| <tonyyarusso> Canonical contact for press stuff | |
| <lophyte> ahh | |
| <lophyte> what, to get her to send us the press release? | |
| <tonyyarusso> All of our press releases before have been for tech news - we need regular ones written | |
| <tonyyarusso> lophyte: To get one like ^^ written | |
| <lophyte> yeah, good call | |
| <lophyte> then we could fire it out to the mass media | |
| <lophyte> and custom tailor it to cities.. | |
| <lophyte> ie. add information about a Feisty Release Party in Toronto | |
| <lophyte> or Victoria.. or where ever | |
| <tonyyarusso> Yeah | |
| <tonyyarusso> I wrote a blurb for Dapper that could be used as a starting point if anyone's interested, but it's not that great | |
| <rexbron> hey lophyte, whats up? | |
| <lophyte> rexbron: are you coming out to stir things up Friday afternoon? | |
| <tonyyarusso> lophyte: http://www.tonyyarusso.com/files/press_release6.06 | |
| <rexbron> I do not think I have anything planed | |
| <lophyte> if you haven't been paying attention to ML | |
| <lophyte> Microsoft has a tent at Yonge & Dundas Square | |
| <rexbron> lophyte: I have read the tread | |
| <lophyte> ah | |
| <lophyte> well I'm proposing we go ahead Friday at 4pm | |
| <rexbron> so I think I will be able to make it | |
| <lophyte> that gives us tonight and tomorrow and Friday morning to print up a bunch of literature to hand out | |
| <lophyte> and we have laptops to do demos | |
| <rexbron> my lappy ain't the best thing to show of, it performance has been deteriorating (not sure why) | |
| <lophyte> anyone here know javascript? | |
| <ryanakca> lophyte: no, but #javascript does | |
| <ryanakca> lophyte: well... I don't know it at least :) not sure about the others :) | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> lophyte: i do | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> lophyte: how to the ms ice house from the subway? | |
| <lophyte> its at yonge and dun]das | |
| <lophyte> like right outside dundas subway | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> cool i will be there after school | |
| <lophyte> is there some kind of delay or sleep() function to pause the execution of a script for a second or two? | |
| <tonyyarusso> lophyte: in javascript? probably...try it | |
| <lophyte> I have been trying it :P | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> go to #javascript | |
| <lophyte> that's why I'm asking | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> lophyte: check out http://www.sean.co.uk/a/webdesign/javascriptdelay.shtm | |
| <lophyte> hah, neat | |
| <lophyte> I'm playing with scriptaculous | |
| <rexbron> lophyte: that brian guy is killing me on the ML, I am pretty sure that he is install everything from packages.ubuntu.com | |
| <rexbron> s/install/installing | |
| <lophyte> i haven't been following | |
| <tonyyarusso> rexbron: Except for when he uses sourceforge.. | |
| <rexbron> ........ | |
| <tonyyarusso> And the package doesn't even compile right. | |
| * tonyyarusso tried | |
| * rexbron does not know if mere text will change ignorence | |
| <rexbron> he is pretty set in a windows, "I need to download to install" | |
| <rexbron> has anyone mention apt-get or actually forced him to use synaptic | |
| <lophyte> what's wrong with installing things from packages.ubuntu.com? | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> rexbron: have you succecfuly compiled that after effects thing yet | |
| <rexbron> mylesbraithwaite: I have put it aside | |
| <rexbron> check out murrine in the feisty upload queue if you want to see my handiwork | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i did a little bit of work on it at my house a few days ago | |
| <lophyte> there, I'm on planet now | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> lophyte: ubuntu planet? | |
| <lophyte> yup | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> thats awsome | |
| <lophyte> posts in the Ubuntu category on my blog will be syndicated to planet ubuntu | |
| * rexbron is thinking about the same thing | |
| <mylesbraithwaite> i would but i don't write that much about ubuntu | |
| <tonyyarusso> I have a separate planetubuntu category, in case I want to do Ubuntuy things that aren't Planet worthy | |
| <rexbron> good idea |