| <X3N> how would one alert ones self to a mail server not working | |
| <chaddy> with the failover mail server | |
| <X3N> hmm | |
| <X3N> can't find anyting on doing that with exim | |
| <X3N> looks like they call it fall back | |
| <X3N> too complicated for this time of night | |
| * X3N shelves | |
| <jamesbrose> Good morning | |
| <popey> morning | |
| <popey> did you get your apache vhost sorted> | |
| <popey> ? | |
| <jamesbrose> Yup | |
| <jamesbrose> Well my friend did.. | |
| <jamesbrose> Anyway I have to go; adios! | |
| <DaveMorris> morning all | |
| <Seeker`> morning | |
| <DaveMorris> is Fiesty gonna be using UUID's in grub? | |
| <popey> i suspect so | |
| <DaveMorris> good, helped someone last night who's problem wouldn't of happened with them | |
| <DaveMorris> btw popey, thanks for pointing out what was wrong with my mail server, its working now | |
| <popey> no problem | |
| <popey> alan@wopr:~$ grep UUID /boot/grub/menu.lst | |
| <popey> # kopt=root=UUID=55966d78-ea92-410f-b278-a9b7e606fe52 ro | |
| <popey> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-5-generic root=UUID=55966d78-ea92-410f-b278-a9b7e606fe52 ro quiet splash | |
| <popey> thats my feisty box | |
| <DaveMorris> its the better way to g :) | |
| <DaveMorris> I couldn't work out what was wrong with my mail server as I was getting mail to it from other places etc | |
| <snail> DaveMorris: what was wrong? | |
| <DaveMorris> tls config | |
| <DaveMorris> if you meant my mail server, or do you mean the user? | |
| <snail> the mail server | |
| <DaveMorris> yeah, the tls config was wrong, so the lug server wasn't able to connect | |
| <DaveMorris> although I was getting mail from other places | |
| <snail> and they could connect because they weren't trying tls? | |
| <popey> the lug box was reporting that the tls config at his end was incorrect | |
| <popey> we could have switched tls off for him, but figured it would be better if he fixed his end :) | |
| <DaveMorris> can a mail be automattically sent telling the user than tls is switched off and it needs enabling? | |
| <popey> we could monitor the exim logs for all kinds of oddball situations | |
| <DaveMorris> I didn't mean doing it manually :P | |
| <popey> neither did I | |
| <popey> we use nagios for monitoring and cacti for graphing | |
| <Seeker`> popey: You know if it is possible to make the relevant tab in the window list flash when irssi gets a message? | |
| <popey> it changes colour | |
| <popey> is that not enough? | |
| <Seeker`> popey: Mine doesn't | |
| <Seeker`> the only notification i get is [act] and the window number just above where i type stuff | |
| <Seeker`> popey: also, do you know how to get irssi to display a list of channels in the status bar, like in this screenshot: http://www.irssi.org/themefiles/ksiadz.png | |
| <DaveMorris> shoudl I as a BT customer start complaining to them that they aren't adhering to the GPL licence | |
| <gord> if they are modifying gpl source you can request the sourcecode but they don't have to explicitly provide a generic link for everyone. if after you request it they don't give you the code then you should complain | |
| <snail> DaveMorris: complain three times, over the course of three weeks, documenting your complaints. | |
| <snail> DaveMorris: documentation is important. have you ever had anything to do with gpl enforcement before? | |
| <DaveMorris> nope | |
| <popey> what are you complaining about specifically DaveMorris ? | |
| <popey> their wireless home hub? | |
| <popey> if so, they have already provided the source on their site haven't they? | |
| <snail> DaveMorris: the most widely used approach is to keep quiet publicly, since most companies fear adverse publicity | |
| <DaveMorris> yeah, but I've not actually got it, so they don't need to provide it to me I guess. Last I read there was still some files missing | |
| <snail> DaveMorris: but gather as much documentation as you can, particularly since they may change the software to strip out the evidence | |
| <popey> DaveMorris: if you can download the firmware for the device freely then you can request the source | |
| <snail> popey: indeed | |
| <popey> whether you have the device or not | |
| <snail> you don't need to be able to run the code to require them to provide the source, just obtain a copy from them | |
| <popey> you also dont need to be able to compile it do you? | |
| <popey> i.e. they may have their build scripts missing | |
| <snail> no, you don't need to be able to compile it | |
| <snail> also: drop an email to http://gpl-violations.org/ | |
| <Seeker`> my irssi scripts dont appear to be loading :( | |
| <Seeker`> or, if they are, they aren't doing anything | |
| <gord> lazy script's that just won't get up off their behind, the curse of the modern coder | |
| <Seeker`> can someone say something please? | |
| <popey> moo | |
| * popey pokes snail | |
| <popey> er Seeker` | |
| <snail> :) | |
| <Seeker`> thanks | |
| * snail pokes popey | |
| <Seeker`> irssi is quite cool actually | |
| <chaddy> tis teh nuts | |
| <popey> It's the shiznit! | |
| <Seeker`> now i just need to work out how to get scripts to autoload | |
| <Seeker`> and the status bar to automatically add them | |
| <GazzaK> I still like xchat | |
| <GazzaK> :p | |
| <Seeker`> popey: You able to help? | |
| <popey> with what? | |
| <popey> i dont do any scripting with irssi, i just use it as is | |
| <Seeker`> do you use any prewritten scripts? | |
| <popey> i refer the honourable gentleman to my previous answer | |
| <chaddy> I've got a little script, of sorts... irssi -c irc.freenode.net -n <nick> -w <password> | |
| <chaddy> connects and signs me in | |
| <chaddy> don't know how you get /join, though | |
| <Seeker`> i've got it set up so that it autojoins | |
| <Seeker`> woo, i think i have it working | |
| <chaddy> do tell, Seeker` | |
| <Seeker`> do tell what? | |
| <Seeker`> how to auto join? | |
| <chaddy> nm | |
| <GazzaK> wooooooo, I should exchange today!!! woot | |
| <DaveMorris> hope it goes well | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: Huh? | |
| <Seeker`> you mean your house? | |
| <DaveMorris> reminds me of how I can't get on and don't stand a chance | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, I might be exchanging, yes, the house, yay, completion set for next wednesday (7th) | |
| <Seeker`> cool | |
| <GazzaK> once I get the call of confirmation that I have exchanged, I get to call BT and tell them how useless they are :-) | |
| <GazzaK> DaveMorris, why not? | |
| <DaveMorris> most me and the missues can borrow based on repayments is £120k | |
| <GazzaK> DaveMorris, that would buy a house/flat here | |
| <GazzaK> not a big place but it's a start | |
| <DaveMorris> not here, they start at £130-140k | |
| <DaveMorris> and they go up quicker than you can save | |
| <GazzaK> yeah | |
| <GazzaK> I know that | |
| <GazzaK> my place, I bought in 2002 for 75K, now it is 130K | |
| <DaveMorris> btw that was with about £300 between us after bills etc for clothes, petorl, socialising | |
| <DaveMorris> but thats how much we would have left after renting so .. | |
| <DaveMorris> I just need to earn another 6k I think | |
| <DaveMorris> so hopefully in the future | |
| <Seeker`> bbl - lunch | |
| * GazzaK feels ill | |
| * gord has been ill for a week and has little sympathy for GazzaK | |
| <GazzaK> so have I gord | |
| <GazzaK> I never really recovered from when I was off, and still feel poo | |
| <Seeker`> back | |
| <GazzaK> nice lunch Seeker` ? | |
| <GazzaK> popey, do you miss your pub lunches? | |
| <X3N> GazzaK: drink loads of coffee | |
| <X3N> always works a charm for me | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: Not too bad | |
| <X3N> gives you liquids, makes you happier, causes a speed up in respiration meaning you can make anti-bodies faster* | |
| <X3N> *not scientific fact | |
| <popey> \o/ | |
| <popey> got a Wii | |
| <popey> GazzaK: had a pub lunch on friday :) | |
| <Seeker`> popey: Where from? | |
| <X3N> we should have an ubuntu-uk meetup sometime | |
| <X3N> hello nik | |
| <LoudMouthMan> afternoon | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hello X3N. | |
| <X3N> anything interesting going on ? | |
| <popey> Seeker`: Game | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hmmm lets see . nope im all catching up mode. | |
| <X3N> LoudMouthMan: is there still a plan to go to the houses of parliament ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> you ? | |
| <X3N> just killing time at the moment , i've checked my email about 15 times and i've still got no emails | |
| * popey signs X3N up for some "special" mailing lists | |
| <X3N> heh ;) | |
| <Seeker`> lo LoudMouthMan | |
| <X3N> hmm i could go back to trying to fix a bug in gnome-screenshot | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I read carolines response to my post it made me wish she had just top posted .. ahahahahah | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hello Seeker` how goes mootbot ? | |
| <X3N> she did top post ! | |
| <Seeker`> LoudMouthMan: Not managed to get any more functionality in for various reasons | |
| <Seeker`> but it looks like we may be starting an ubuntu-scribes team | |
| <gord> ooooh I love scribes -_- | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yes I had seen the scribes , this looks good, getting things written down v.important. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> X3N yeah but not on mine! | |
| <X3N> your client fixes it ? | |
| <GazzaK> woooooooooo, I've exchanged | |
| <X3N> when's the house warming party GazzaK ? ;) | |
| <GazzaK> completion set for wed 7th | |
| <GazzaK> house warming the following weekend I suppose, before I decorate :p | |
| <X3N> good idea | |
| <gord> open bar? | |
| <X3N> we all know what LoudMouthMan is like with tomato ketchup when he's drunk | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: Where are you moving to? | |
| <GazzaK> colchester | |
| <GazzaK> gord, bring your own :p | |
| <gord> psh, forget that then | |
| <GazzaK> haha | |
| <X3N> i did some work for colchester | |
| <X3N> we did http://secure.colchester.gov.uk | |
| <LoudMouthMan> drunk . sober ? whats the diff ? besides I always feel sad for sober people. when they wake up inthe morning thats the best they will ever feel. | |
| <X3N> sad for sober people ? | |
| * chaddy just smokes a spliff when he feels like not being sober | |
| <apokryphos> mornings are nice, but not the best part of the day :P | |
| <LoudMouthMan> X3N its a quote from a celeb, one of the rat pack guys if I remember. | |
| <GazzaK> X3N, that link fails :p | |
| <X3N> yeah i forgot the https | |
| <X3N> /af3/an/ | |
| <GazzaK> eeek, my nick is still in the topic, doesn't anything happen here? | |
| <X3N> also it's hard to set the topic with irssi | |
| <chaddy> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The_Contractor's_Note.aspx | |
| <X3N> gah ' in a url | |
| <gord> my toes are cold | |
| <LoudMouthMan> im having one of those hammer/nut situations where Im wondering if im writing a ajax answer because I can or if I should. the fact that im thinking this to myself probably means im doing it for the wrong reason. | |
| <norf-ubu> confucias say - man with new spoon tends to eat food with spoon when fingers would suffice | |
| <LoudMouthMan> norf-ubu indeed. my measure of that is " if I ask my self then I probably am ignoring the correct answer " but its the same and in this case im digging out some code from another page and pasting it in. | |
| * gord is not a fan of ajax, feels like a hacky way of doing things | |
| <gord> also javascript is blaaaaaaaaaah | |
| <DaveMorris> don't suppose anyone knows Gary Brooks in sussex? | |
| <treb0r> Seen this? http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2851 | |
| <norf-ubu> 192.co if you're trying to trace him | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Davemorris yes possibly | |
| <norf-ubu> 192.com* | |
| <DaveMorris> linux gugy apparntly starting work at the uni today | |
| <LoudMouthMan> oh wait . I dont know gary brooks butim guessing someone does. | |
| <treb0r> "Consumers, businesses and government bodies should protect their interests by migrating to free software, rather than upgrading to Vista, says Wall." | |
| <DaveMorris> lol | |
| <LoudMouthMan> gord, how else should I prepolate a textbox from a drop down then if not javascript ? out of curiousity ive only got javascript or dhtml to play with. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> nice spot treb0r | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I suppose i should cut the quick and make like every other "professional" enterprise operation and write it in VB <grin> I could even reuse my old dcom objects for no other purpose than its dcom ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> oh gord, sorry ! | |
| <DaveMorris> not vb | |
| <DaveMorris> .net would be acceptable | |
| <treb0r> I know a lot of people have already talked about this, but IMHO, Vista really does represent a tipping point. | |
| * treb0r really needs to get that Ubuntu certification sorted... | |
| <LoudMouthMan> good point . hmmm maybe we could start a Ubuntu-.Net forum <Grin> | |
| <DaveMorris> personally I'd go with Java but thats due to prior knowledge and its been gpl'ed | |
| <DaveMorris> but go with what youknow | |
| <gord> whatever it is, use python. its the best for whatever it is you want to do, whatever that may be | |
| <norf-ubu> personally - FWIW - Microsoft have really over stretched this time with Vista, i think we might be witnessing the slow beginning of the end | |
| * Seeker` thinks that Assembly would be ideal for the job LoudMouthMan has in mind | |
| <LoudMouthMan> you mean the longest suicide note in history. nah we said this about 98 and XP so were not going to be heard when its Vistas time. if its not bad enough that MS are the emporers tailors we come off as the boy who cries wolf. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Seeker` yeah id jump that stack without a pointer. or maybe Gazzak would ! | |
| <DaveMorris> the biggest change will be when we connect the next billion people with OLPC | |
| <treb0r> norf-ubu: I agree. What is interesting about the Green Party getting involved is the emergence of Linux as a 'lifestyle' choice. Like fair trade coffee or organic veg. Ubuntu is 'Wholefood for your hard drive'.. | |
| <treb0r> I think we need to step up the propaganda to non geeks. Urgently. | |
| <norf-ubu> ah yes - bit previous incarnations have been marketed on compatibility and functionality - Vista is restrictive and they're not hiding the fact this time. if it aint "vista" stamped - it aint gonna work | |
| <DaveMorris> does the mouse put data into a file which I could hijack? And if so what it called/ | |
| <gord> why would the mouse put data into a file? | |
| <treb0r> to get to the other side | |
| <gord> its like a device thats constantly rambling on about whats its doing weather anyones listening or not, if you (a program) want to take advantage of using a mouse you just have to listen to the little guy | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I think what is interesting is how it could be constructed that open source development and open source distribution is more carbon neutral than vista with its expensive launch parties and huge work force shipped to and from offices etc etc | |
| <LoudMouthMan> further we can change direction and modify code quicker that MS so we can address powerconsumption needs quicker. well just as a thought . | |
| <treb0r> LoudMouthMan: Yes, but not only that. Open SOurce can be said to more thical from many different standpoints, not just carbon neutrality. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> treb0r ethics dont buy enough business but carbon credits and tax issues will always get the attention of the govt | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but I do agree that ethics are important its just hard to get business and govt to be ethical <Grin> | |
| <treb0r> LoudMouthMan: Ethics are one of the major driving forces in today market place. Look how Tesco and M&S are srambling onto the thical badwagon. Fair Trade sells. | |
| <treb0r> I think we can use this idea to push GNU/Linux to the masses.. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> you see I think its important but I feel that they are being paid lip service to rather than making a differnce to. which is why fair trade occupies less that a few shelves in a store which carries hundred of shelves. | |
| <gord> call me old fashioned but I still don't think that the way to sell floss is to 'push it to the masses'. you have to get institutions using it, schools, colleges, workplaces. once people get familiar with it computer shop places will start distributing it with computers which is all the general person wants to know about software, if it doesn't come by default most people won't want to know | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Fair trade is very important however so is globalisation and in its term economic incentives to small and local businesses. | |
| <norf-ubu> another thing to address - which is much much harder - is the whole "feel" and "look" of Linux - whereas mmicrosft have common standards with feel and look of a program "range" - Linux does not - most PPL feel more comfortable when separate programs conform to standard feel and look - whereas linux does not | |
| <gord> yes it does, just not _all_ programs. not _all_ windows programs look and feel the same either. all the gnome programs sure do, all the kde programs too | |
| <norf-ubu> we have the functionality - it works! but the look and feel is all over the place | |
| <LoudMouthMan> gord you quite correct. the masses are in reality just people who have agreed on an idea. windows succeeded because people had it at home long before it got installed in business. certainly this was what I rember of working at Lloyds. | |
| <treb0r> Yes, but that is changing. The biggest employer in this neck of the woods is suma wholefoods. They are seeing an 80% year on year growth rate. And they are a wrker's coop. The boss gets paid the same as the cleaners. They can't keep up with demand. I want to start a one stop ethical IT shop along the same basis. Proably as a community interest company. ANd specialise in training, support and websites. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so we need lots of local teams working across the world appealing to their cultures in their langauages and making small local changes which can be seen and felt globally . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hmmm I wonder what we could call those teams <grin> | |
| <norf-ubu> :P | |
| * treb0r nods enthusiastically | |
| <DaveMorris> Linux groups? | |
| <norf-ubu> but is ethical'ness just another fashion fad ? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> norf-ubu no I dont think so .. Lincoln had Ethics, so did hitler, ethics is how we evoke an idea of change. Thatcher had ethics and spoke of buckling down and hard work and so on and so on . | |
| <treb0r> norf-ubu: No. It is at the heart of the original RMS vision of free software. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> loco-teams .. nah no one would do that <grin> | |
| <DaveMorris> btw how do you join the ubuntu uk team etc? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I really dont feel that we have an issue on the technical delivery of open source. where there are hurdles we can surpass them . I think we are beginning to hit the philosophical wall of freedoms and openness and accessibility and acceptability . | |
| <Seeker`> DaveMorris: Sit in the #ubuntu-uk channel and talk rubbish | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, hehe | |
| <norf-ubu> LoudMouthMan: exactly - using your example - hitlers ethics were "fashionable" and adopted by many (aside from the atricities - let not go there) but its not "fashionable" today - | |
| <Seeker`> DaveMorris: GazzaK is a perfect example | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Davemorris, well just turn up , get involved in wiki local lugs, forums and maillist theres no official membership program but voting for popey used to be considered a winner <grin> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> norf-ubu : yep <grin> I was pointing out that ethics is subjective. | |
| <GazzaK> rubbish | |
| <LoudMouthMan> become a Ubuntu Member though and its a big bonus for the UKTeam as it shows more members commited to a goal , purpose and ideal. | |
| <norf-ubu> and therefore subject to favour - though it would be great if linux were finally launchpadded from that and kept up momentum | |
| <GazzaK> I don't always talk rubbish | |
| * Seeker` hopes that if Ubuntu-scribes takes off he should be able to become a member | |
| <gord> Iv never seen an avenue for helping out with ubuntu really, its a shame but there are lots of people who do help so its all good | |
| <DaveMorris> I already do that ;0 | |
| <X3N> https://answers.launchpad.net/ | |
| <DaveMorris> i've only got around 5k karma :( | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I think its as important to be able to be a part of a team and do nothing more than be a supporter and a spectator. Sure we dont like the armchair pundits but without users and supporters many ideas would not progress and prosper. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I have none . | |
| <X3N> Karma: 22707 | |
| <gord> hurrarh I have 9641 | |
| <Seeker`> i have about 7k | |
| <treb0r> I'm trying to decide which philosophical approach os most appropriate. The Shuttleworth Ubuntu pragmatism or RMS radical gnewsense. | |
| <DaveMorris> tbh I don't trawl the boards looking to help people, but I try and help if people pop in here | |
| <norf-ubu> my Karma is zilch - but my chakra is zen like :P | |
| <LoudMouthMan> karma : nill <grin> | |
| <LoudMouthMan> well the launchpad score is nil but if I say i have great karma Ive failed to understand it <grin> | |
| <DaveMorris> prehaps your karma has wrapped around? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> nah ive just got a philosophical and spiritual issue which is totally my problem ( from a outside persons point of view ) . | |
| <LoudMouthMan> wow ... did I just rapture ? | |
| <Seeker`> huh? | |
| <LoudMouthMan> all of a sudden silence <Grin> | |
| <norf-ubu> more of a rupture | |
| <LoudMouthMan> i got the quote the wrong way round I should have said .. wow did rapture just happen ? | |
| <norf-ubu> <Huge Grin> | |
| <DaveMorris> I don't get it | |
| <LoudMouthMan> its Eschatology or the end of the world stuff where the "chosen" will be whisked to heaven before the 1000 odd years of end times. | |
| <DaveMorris> remembers the Simpson's episode | |
| <Seeker`> ah, simpsns | |
| <Seeker`> *simpsons | |
| <treb0r> Don't forget the old Terrence McKenna 2012 timewave theory... | |
| <Seeker`> there is a quote for every situation | |
| <gord> my favorite simpsons thing is 'boo-urns!' | |
| <LoudMouthMan> Seeker` yep and if not a quote a day of the year calendar quote. | |
| <LoudMouthMan> but really life should be boiled down to which simpson episode its most similar to ! | |
| <LoudMouthMan> should be should read should not be | |
| <DaveMorris> or Family guy/Fururama | |
| <gord> that sentance is about ten thousand times more confusing than it should be | |
| <Seeker`> d'oh! | |
| <X3N> woooo bbc linked to ubuntu !! | |
| <X3N> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6310599.stm | |
| <X3N> it's in the top 5 stories read today as well | |
| <gord> tis just a link, wake me up when the bbc starts providing in-depth reports on floss rather than a short flittering dance with the notion in whatever the latest microsoft/apple centred article is ;) | |
| <X3N> it's better than completly ignoreing floss | |
| <X3N> and i bet there will be a lot of people finding out what ubuntu is for the first time through that article | |
| <treb0r> The BBC simply don't understand. They refer to Ubuntu as a 'product'. | |
| <treb0r> "Even though products like Ubuntu and Suse Linux show great promise, there are still issues with compatibility and ease of use." | |
| <LoudMouthMan> yes its amazing how they fail to mention the issues are due to closed source propriatary ness of the popular os. | |
| <treb0r> Like I said, they don't get it. Neither does the majority of the population. | |
| <treb0r> In a consumer society driven by materialism, almost nobody can understand the true nature of the free software movement. | |
| <X3N> hehe alan c just top posted on the subject of bottom posting on the list | |
| <LoudMouthMan> so is he top or bottom ? hmm Gazzak would you know ? | |
| <GazzaK> LoudMouthMan, please leave me out of it :p | |
| <LoudMouthMan> heheh sorry gazzak <mwah> right im off back to the other office.. back in a bit | |
| <treb0r> I'm bored. http://treb0r.net/from-satori-to-silicon-valley-to-rms | |
| <jamesbrose> Good afternoon everyone | |
| <treb0r> afternoon | |
| <X3N> Window manager warning: Received a _NET_WM_MOVERESIZE message for 0x5c00046 (Calendar1.); these messages lack timestamps and therefore suck. | |
| <X3N> ! | |
| <jamesbrose> Wa? | |
| <Seeker`> does everything without a timestamp suck? | |
| <gord> does if your trying to debug a program and you realise that you havn't put a timestamp mechanism in your warning messages | |
| <gord> so far I have counted three articles independant of each other on vista on bbc news today | |
| <GazzaK> eeeek, my work want me to test vista | |
| <GazzaK> I don't want to | |
| <medders> hiya everyone | |
| <GazzaK> I wonder if I can get them to buy me a cutting edge lappy to do this testing on? | |
| <GazzaK> hi medders | |
| <medders> GazzaK: was it you that advised me about site5? | |
| <GazzaK> nope | |
| <medders> GazzaK: okay, whoever it was I need to thank them :0 | |
| <medders> :)* | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: Just tell them its rubbish. But that you should keep the high spec laptop so you can do more tests. just to be sure. | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| <Seeker`> hmm, a friend just fitted new RAM to his computer. | |
| <Seeker`> Computer died within a few secs of being turned on. It now does nothing | |
| <Seeker`> He has tried removing the RAM and it doesn't make any difference. The power supply isn't hot to touch, and it doesnt smell burnt | |
| <Seeker`> does it sounds like a mobo problem? | |
| <gord> sure does sound like he has destroyed his psu | |
| <Seeker`> my housemates psu went a few days ago, and that was really obvious | |
| <Seeker`> it smelt horrible, and was very warm to touch | |
| <Seeker`> which is why i'm not sure this is the psu | |
| <GazzaK> my psu died very boringly Seeker` no noise, no smell, nothing, just no power | |
| <Seeker`> hmm | |
| <snail> Seeker`: sounds like a fuse | |
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| <Seeker`> snail: Not a fuse issue | |
| <Seeker`> hmm | |
| <Seeker`> someone suggested reseting the bios | |
| <Seeker`> is that likely to have any effect? | |
| <stdin> depends if they see a POST or not | |
| <Seeker`> stdin: No | |
| <Seeker`> the computer doesn't respond to the power button | |
| <stdin> I'd say it's hardware then | |
| <stdin> not bois | |
| * GazzaK just had a big argument with BT | |
| <Seeker`> hmm | |
| <Seeker`> apparently he just plugged the new ram back in and it boots, but the the BIOS is beeping | |
| <gord> beep | |
| <GazzaK> beep | |
| <Seeker`> yeah, like thayt | |
| <stdin> maybe he has electrostaticly charged hands | |
| <stdin> ooh, big word there ^^^ | |
| <Seeker`> maybe | |
| <Seeker`> hmm | |
| <Seeker`> will taking the bios battery out reset it? as i'm not convinced they will be able to find the jumper | |
| <jamesbrose> Well something beeping | |
| <jamesbrose> normally means something isnt in propoly | |
| <jamesbrose> or not functioning | |
| <jamesbrose> properly* | |
| <jamesbrose> I get it all the time when I don't put wires in right.. | |
| <Seeker`> apparetly everything is plugged in correctly | |
| <Seeker`> everyone has disappeared :( | |
| <X3N> i just got an electric shock | |
| <Seeker`> X3N: What from? | |
| <X3N> a plug ! | |
| <Seeker`> what werer you doing? | |
| <X3N> playing with this http://www.brennenstuhl.com/content.php?Produkte%2FPower+Distribution%2FPlug-in+Appliances%2FWattage+and+current+meter+PM+230&seite=shop/produkte.php&hauptrubrik=484&details=1849 | |
| <X3N> i had just unplugged it and happened to touch the contacts for live and nutral | |
| <Seeker`> did it hurt? | |
| <X3N> a little bit | |
| <X3N> bit like an electric fence | |
| *** tito_linux is now known as rbs | |
| *** rbs is now known as rbs-tito | |
| <Seeker`> i've never tried an electric fence | |
| <Seeker`> most i've done is van de graff generators | |
| <rbs-tito> lol | |
| <X3N> although i have now confirmed that my 19" lcd uses over half the power that my 16" flat crt does | |
| <Seeker`> hmm | |
| <Seeker`> I haven't had any electric shocks in over 3 years now | |
| <Seeker`> :( | |
| <X3N> so you're out of the electric shock therepy then | |
| <Seeker`> v. low current shocks are fun | |
| <Seeker`> i.e van de graff generators | |
| *** diocles_ is now known as diocles | |
| <Seeker`> HOMETIME!!!! | |
| <rbs-tito> I've just learned Python | |
| <rbs-tito> Well, almost | |
| <Jasra> Hi? | |
| <willskills> :D | |
| <willskills> good evening everyone :) | |
| <tsmithe> hihi | |
| <willskills> anyone in Edinburgh? :> | |
| <tsmithe> willskills, not me :) (oh i'm sooo helpful) | |
| <tsmithe> !guidelines | |
| <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | |
| <tsmithe> (to me :P) |
