| <tonyy_on_kde> nalioth: ping | |
| <tonyy_on_kde> nalioth: Was wondering if you'd talked to the second of the two people who had been doing this, per conwersation a few weeks ago, and any outcomes of that. | |
| * Mez -> bed | |
| <tonyyarusso> nalioth: You can reply to the regular nick when you return, btw | |
| <jenda> yo | |
| <tonyyarusso> oy | |
| <PriceChild> :) | |
| <PriceChild> The window manager isn't really above or below the Desktop environment... | |
| <PriceChild> Its more a part of the DE | |
| <PriceChild> Like a bubble inside or something | |
| <tonyyarusso> I can use the tracking interface for ubotu to get the top factoids...hmm | |
| <PriceChild> You don't need a DE to run a window manager, and you don't need a window manager to run a DE (although hard for the latter :P) | |
| <jenda> hmm | |
| <jenda> ok :) | |
| <PriceChild> Its hard to clasify all of this :) | |
| <jenda> true - I've had lots of gnome without a WM :) | |
| * PriceChild also thinks that the "other" drivers are all XGL | |
| <PriceChild> so I'm sure we could make it very neat by pushing xgl and other over on one side | |
| <jenda> oooh | |
| <jenda> ok. | |
| <jenda> PriceChild: you absoh-lootley sure? | |
| <jenda> PriceChild: I'm calling the left half... Accelerated Desktop Environment... | |
| <PriceChild> jenda, I'm making a few changes ;) | |
| <jenda> PriceChild: what should I call the significantly smaller half on the left? | |
| <jenda> (the first one was meant to be the right...) | |
| <jenda> you are... :) | |
| * jenda sulks in a corner. | |
| <jenda> I'll leave it up to you, then. | |
| <jenda> Whenever you're done, if you want it to be on that URL as a png for linking to, just email it to me. :) | |
| <PriceChild> Hehe sorry :P | |
| <PriceChild> jenda, http://pricechild.co.uk/DesktopChartEN-changed.odg | |
| <jenda> ok, I'll work a bit on mine, and then shove you one more revision :) | |
| <PriceChild> coo | |
| <PriceChild> l | |
| <jenda> PriceChild: you're saying that AIGLX is _only_ compatible with ATI radeon drivers? | |
| <PriceChild> /me probably made a mistake | |
| <jenda> yup - I believe integrated chips should be able to use it as well, no? | |
| <PriceChild> ARgh I missed out intel... | |
| <PriceChild> New version up :) | |
| <jenda> nooo | |
| <jenda> :) | |
| <PriceChild> hehe | |
| <jenda> PriceChild: are there none other than intel that can use it? | |
| <PriceChild> Have you looked at my diagram? | |
| <PriceChild> I've basically snipped AIGLX out to keep things neat as for the talk they won't need to know about it because of xorg7.1 | |
| <jenda> They don't need to know about anything, really. | |
| <jenda> The chart is there to explain the differences of the different solutions.. no? | |
| <jenda> And the difference between the nVidia solution and the AIGLX solution is... AIGLX, innit? | |
| <PriceChild> erm... yeah... | |
| <PriceChild> but intel and radeon/ati use the same solution as nvidia | |
| <PriceChild> no matter what | |
| <PriceChild> those 4 can all use xorg7.1 or AIGLX | |
| <jenda> AIGLX an extension of xorg? | |
| <tonyyarusso> yes | |
| <jenda> and do you run AIGLX when you run the 9xxx nVidia drivers? | |
| <jenda> PriceChild: check: http://diy.devubuntu.com/dump/DesktopChartEN.odg | |
| <PriceChild> AIGLX has had the important parts stripped out and placed into xorg7.1 | |
| <PriceChild> Ok yeah I'm happy with that almost | |
| <PriceChild> Except that metacity/kwin are both window managers AND window decorators | |
| <jenda> yes, yes :) | |
| <jenda> working on that. | |
| <PriceChild> hehe | |
| <PriceChild> right I'm gonna be gone for a bit | |
| <PriceChild> will be back in a couple of hours after lectures :( | |
| <jenda> http://diy.devubuntu.com/dump/DesktopChartEN.png | |
| <jenda> tonyyarusso: opinions? :) | |
| <tonyyarusso> jenda: Nice | |
| <tonyyarusso> I don't know what Emerald/Heliodor are, but the rest looks right | |
| <jenda> Emerald is Beryl's window decorator. | |
| <jenda> Thing "Aero" :) | |
| * jenda runs | |
| <tonyyarusso> ah | |
| <gnomefreak> cwd is compiz only isnt it? and its not in the ubuntu built compiz. it uses your existing WD/WM | |
| <jenda> haha | |
| <jenda> I exported the wrong odg file ): | |
| <jenda> *:) | |
| <jenda> tonyyarusso, gnomefreak, perhaps, try again ;) | |
| <gnomefreak> trying | |
| <gnomefreak> :0 looks good | |
| <gnomefreak> :) even | |
| <tonyyarusso> oooo | |
| <jenda> ツ | |
| <Mez> whats up with leadership tonyyarusso | |
| <tonyyarusso> Mez: It was being done by two folks, neither of whom I think are still interested in doing so. | |
| <Mez> aka me and nalioth | |
| <tonyyarusso> nalioth asked if I'd like to take over and handle the scheduling and such (hence my poking for ideas) | |
| <tonyyarusso> No, not you two actually. | |
| <tonyyarusso> We talked to one of them before, but the second was away, so he was going to follow up on that to make sure they were okay with handing things off. | |
| <Mez> tonyyarusso, lol I'd be happy for you to tak eover, but i'm still interested in being part of this | |
| <Mez> I was actually thyinking of a "council" type of thing mysewlf | |
| <apokryphos> Mez: around to stay? ;-) | |
| <tonyyarusso> Mez: That'd be good. We were mostly dealing with the nitty-gritty level, scheduling, in our last conversation. | |
| <tonyyarusso> Making a list of topics, arranging people to give the classes, and making sure they happen. | |
| <Mez> tonyyarusso, well to be fair, you've been doing a lot of that anyways | |
| <Mez> I know we discussed some of it earlier | |
| <Mez> apokryphos, ? | |
| <apokryphos> ack, lecture, out | |
| <apokryphos> Mez: we missed you for a long time :) | |
| <Mez> apokryphos, so did a lot of things | |
| <tonyyarusso> Mez: Ah, here's who it was: "The Classroom is a project sponsored by the NewUserNetwork. It is co-managed by RyanKavanagh and KevinGailey." | |
| <Mez> hybrid and ryanakca | |
| <tonyyarusso> yep | |
| <Mez> either of you two around ? | |
| <Mez> tonyyarusso, so, what have you done, in your own words for -classroom | |
| <tonyyarusso> Mez: Well, so far I gave one class, did a lot of the topic/presenter/question helping for Open Week, created the /Ideas page, and have started trying to put together a 2007 schedule. | |
| <Mez> tonyyarusso, I helped you with that class ;P | |
| <tonyyarusso> Mez: Yes, you did - so you get to claim that too :) | |
| <Mez> (not detracting from what you did - I just dont get mentioned anywhere!) | |
| <Mez> tonyyarusso, I dont need to claim anything | |
| <Mez> Martin Meredith (Owner) :P | |
| <tonyyarusso> (You're in the transcript at the end! I'll fix it when I redo PastClasses too) | |
| <tonyyarusso> hehe | |
| <Mez> tonyyarusso as I said - I'm happy for you to help with the organisation (and appoint you in that role) but I'm not going to take that role off of ryanakca or hybrid - can you work with them? | |
| <Mez> I've actually been thinking of changing the -classroom into a "seperate" entity | |
| <Mez> still under "NUN" rule... but with it's own team etc etc , who make the decisions on their own, and then are still part of us, but have the freedom of being their own group | |
| <tonyyarusso> Mez: I believe it was ryanakca we reached earlier, who said he was happy to move on from it. I was trying to see if nalioth had reached hybrid to see if he was at all still interested or also wanted to hand off. | |
| <Mez> ryanakca doesnt want to be part of it ? | |
| <Mez> aw thats actually a real shame | |
| <tonyyarusso> Careful | |
| <tonyyarusso> I don't think he said he didn't want to be part of it. I believe the question was did he want to be management. | |
| <Mez> ohh.. ok | |
| <Mez> :D | |
| <Mez> of NUN or classroom ? | |
| <tonyyarusso> Classroom was what we were discussing | |
| <Mez> tonyyarusso, your email | |
| <Mez> ? | |
| <tonyyarusso> Mez: You want the address? Full sentences! | |
| <Mez> tonyyarusso, your email is? | |
| <tonyyarusso> <-- this at ubuntu.com works | |
| <Mez> gnomefreak, nice work on keeping the mailing list clean (or nalioth if it was you) | |
| <gnomefreak> both him the last while since my password stopped working | |
| <Mez> gnomefreak, hmm... | |
| <Mez> well - your password should work if nalioths is | |
| <apokryphos> Mez: yeah, I was away myself for quick a bit of the summer | |
| <Mez> apokryphos, I've had a LOT of issues with accomodation | |
| <gnomefreak> Mez: if you have it handy can you email it to me at gnomefreak@ubuntu.com (maybe i wrote it down wrong) after i reinstalled it stopped working | |
| <apokryphos> Mez: sucks. Finding one or with the current accomodation? | |
| <Mez> gnomefreak, I've no idea what it is | |
| <Mez> apokryphos, well - I've moved 3/4 times in the last year ;) | |
| <Mez> I'm sorted now | |
| <gnomefreak> oh ill ask nalioth to email it to me than | |
| <apokryphos> yeouch | |
| <Mez> gnomefreak, what p/w do you have? | |
| <Mez> tonyyarusso, get my email? | |
| <gnomefreak> Mez: ill look give me a sec | |
| <Mez> though, /msg me that | |
| <gnomefreak> k | |
| <tonyyarusso> Mez: The Future of? yes | |
| <Mez> tonyyarusso, did you get it twice ? | |
| <tonyyarusso> Mez: yes | |
| <Mez> did you possibly get it three or four times ? | |
| <Mez> lol | |
| <Mez> (or did you just get -nun / personal) | |
| <gnomefreak> well i got you trying to post to the mailing list | |
| <Mez> lol - yeah for some reason i'm not subscribed | |
| <gnomefreak> ok give me a sec i will see if i can get it pushed through | |
| <tonyyarusso> Just -nun and personal I think | |
| <Mez> gnomefreak, sorry - already did it | |
| <gnomefreak> i think i found the issue | |
| <gnomefreak> ff cache had wrong password (must have typoed) | |
| <Mez> lol | |
| <Mez> you can login to the admin interfacE ? | |
| <Mez> i thought it was only via emai you could moderate | |
| <gnomefreak> i can log in to accept or decline messages | |
| <Mez> where? | |
| <gnomefreak> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/admindb/ubuntu-nun | |
| * gnomefreak goes to get some work done | |
| <Mez> haha | |
| <Mez> you probably got it 4 times tonyyarusso | |
| <nalioth> what is going on here, Mez ? | |
| <tonyyarusso> nalioth: Talking about structure of the Classroom | |
| <nalioth> no meeting? no let's all get togother and talk about it? let's just decide some stuff and go with it | |
| <tonyyarusso> nalioth: no no, there was some chatter b/c we were already on some subjects, and I had hilighted you (did you see?) about a conversation that happened a while ago, and after Mez and I basically just swapped what we knew he sent something to the ML for discussion there. I don't think we've actually _done_ anything. | |
| <nalioth> the mailing list entry says so. | |
| <Mez> nalioth, no the mailing list suggests it - It doesnt actually do anything - as it says - it's a suiggestion | |
| * Mez shakes head | |
| <nalioth> Mez: i'm the one who called for volunteers for running classes. hybrid and ryanakca answered up. I guess i'm the 'mentor' of those two in this. | |
| <Mez> nalioth: no problems | |
| <ryanakca> Mez: pong | |
| <ryanakca> Mez: I was writing a wonderful, long geography exam :) | |
| <ryanakca> Mez: tonyyarusso: ah... no... being the only person managing it... no thanks... tonyyarusso can help out in that... seeing that I don't have much time now adays... but I try to be active when I can... |
