<mrben> morning all
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<popey> moo
<Sionide> snow
<popey> not here
<popey> just frost
<mrben> no snow here, either
<mrben> popey: I take it that you would recommend compiling qemu from source if I've doing a screencast?
<mrben> plus, do you think I'm going to get enough oopmh out of an Athlon 1800XP with 1GB of memory to record a qemu session at a decent speed?
<stdin> I on;y get like 1-2 FPS with xvidcap on P4 1.8Ghz 1.5GB
<popey> what is the host?
<popey> mrben:
<popey> ubuntu ?
<popey> i have had an email out of the blue from the author of xvidcap
<popey> he wants to know how it can be improved, so i gave him some suggestions
<popey> looks like performance is one of his key tasks
<popey> mrben: I would (if ubuntu) recommend installing qemu from the repo, but compile kqemu for your cpu to improve speed
<popey> alternatively use virtualbox - it is ooooodles quicker than qeu
<popey> qemu
<popey> mrben: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
<stdin> I'm very impressed with virtualbox
<popey> ditto
<mrben> popey: ah. ok
<mrben> (yes, ubuntu
<mrben> )
<mrben> so I should go with virtualbox instead
<popey> i would
<stdin> give it a go
<popey> it is stupendously fast
<popey> let me know how you get on
<mrben> coolies
<mrben> I will do
<mrben> plus, I'll be using Jokosher for the audio, instead of Audacity ;)
<popey> hhahha
<popey> loon
<popey> watched his talk last night
<popey> interesting, might use it myself
<stdin> Jokosher kept crashing/freezing on me
<mrben> the latest svn version is much improved (sadly)
<mrben> 0.2 was quite feature complete, but not as stable as would've been nice
<mrben> but still - report the bugs
<stdin> at least audacity can use alsa now
<mrben> popey: hmmm - the ubuntu package won't install :(
<mrben> popey: presumably I'm better off compliling from source?
<popey> what? vbox?
<popey> I compile from source, yes
<mrben> ok
<popey> the deb isn't free software
<popey> compiling from source is
<popey> but usb support is only in the non-free version :(
<mrben> ahhh
<mrben> ok
<mrben> right - off to hospital - bbiab
<popey> ttfdn
<popey> http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert20071832660125.gif
<CieD> a classic popey :D the IT guys here love it!
<popey> 10:11 <@Wyvern> popey: I think Scott Adams managed to get quite a good likeness of you :-)
<CieD> :)
<GazzaK> OMG, oranges can be reallllly tangy
<GazzaK> apokryphos, this -op stuff is doing my head in
<apokryphos> indeed
<apokryphos> GazzaK: but I think it will all be over for a long time in a week or so
<GazzaK> all I can see is damage
<apokryphos> somerville32 has been removed
<GazzaK> if damage is caused, the troll wins.....
<GazzaK> thats my 2p
<GazzaK> he has been removed? really
<popey> apokryphos: why?
<apokryphos> mainly for being persistently counter-productive within the irc op team
<popey> oh in #ubuntu?
<apokryphos> in #ubuntu-ops
<GazzaK> sorry for bringing this up in this channel apokryphos
<popey> apokryphos: is there a way to up the max no of channels someone can be in on freenode?
<GazzaK> popey, someone yesterday was saying they do this by alias'
<apokryphos> yes, you contact staff and they analyse the channels you're in, perhaps speak to a few others to verify, and then you may get a +u
<apokryphos> I think I'm on 36 chans atm :o
<apokryphos> GazzaK: that's another option
<GazzaK> +u, wow, another damn irc mode I never heard of
<GazzaK> damnit, orange just squished all over my desk
<popey> apokryphos: how do I contact staff?
<apokryphos> popey: /stats p
<gord> wish I had an orange, all we have are rubbish bananana's >:(
<popey> ooo, jenda is staff?
<apokryphos> first level, yes
<GazzaK> gord, I have an apple too
<DaveMorris> morning
<GazzaK> but after being attacked by the orange of doom, I am scared of what the apple can do
<GazzaK> morning DaveMorris
<DaveMorris> I hate Maxtor drives !!!!
<DaveMorris> came to work yesterday and my HDD had failed, it was only about 10 months old
<GazzaK> warranty?
<DaveMorris> I can only get the very small files off (glad I used subversion for my work)
<DaveMorris> yeah it should get returned, but thats the 3rd drive we've had fail in the lab by them
<GazzaK> ouch
<GazzaK> get a different make?
<DaveMorris> it wasn't my choice, they got them before I started
<DaveMorris> I personally go for WD or segate
<GazzaK> I like seagate
<GazzaK> I had one in my boot, for like a year, unprotected, all weather, and it still is working now, after a year in my home machine
<GazzaK> talk about abused
<DaveMorris> I've got some old 3GB seagate disks still in use
* popey uses seagate
<DaveMorris> they've been going for years now
<GazzaK> 3GB, wow
<GazzaK> I have a 3.2Gb as a paperweight, it might work
<DaveMorris> yeah, its sitting in my firewall (smoothwall) and has been on 24/7 now for 2-3 years
<GazzaK> don't turn it off then :p
<DaveMorris> are there any guides on how to make a ubuntu package for some software?
<DaveMorris> I want to create some packages for http://cpptest.sourceforge.net/
<GazzaK> hey elate & PriceChild, morning
<PriceChild> hi GazzaK
<constrictor> where can i find a free subversion server
<constrictor> ?
<constrictor> or can i set up an svn server on my shared hosting without having anything installed on the server
<GazzaK> I dunno
<gord> sourceforge do subversion servers
<constrictor> i'll look
<snail> constrictor: i believe that google is considered better than sourceforge these days. easier for newbies to grok
<constrictor> right
<snail> constrictor: sourceforge are in maintainance mode (few new features, docs or support), whereas google are in a growth mode (regular new features, docs, etc),
<constrictor> cool
<constrictor> snail: url?
<constrictor> would that be the project hosting feature
<constrictor> ?
<gord> if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
<snail> http://code.google.com/ http://code.google.com/hosting/
<snail> constrictor: did google not find it for you ;)
<constrictor> LOL
<gord> stoopid gas men outside have cut off the gas so they can upgrade the pipes, its freeeeeeeezing >_<
<gord> Im gonna sue them for making me cold
<DaveMorris> whats the command to search for the lib's installed?
<GazzaK> gord, go sit in their coffee van?
<snail> DaveMorris: locate "\.so" ?
<DaveMorris> no its another one, it returns -lusb for example for libusb
<gord> what kind of high class builders do you have GazzaK? o_O the ones around here arn't sensible enough to drink coffee never mind find a nice quiet place to enjoy it
<GazzaK> oh, thats a shame
<DaveMorris> -lusb
<DaveMorris> wrong window
<DaveMorris> pkg-config --libs libusb is what I was after
<GazzaK> gord, we have posh builders here
<DaveMorris> reminds me of the Diet Coke advert
<GazzaK> they drink earl grey from china cups
<GazzaK> DaveMorris, I'm like the women in that ad here
<GazzaK> the cute builders, wooooo
<X3N> you should go wolf whistle at them
<gord> y'know I have never heard a wolf make a sound like that
<X3N> no, it's a strange phrase
<mrben> which ubuntu package contains the kernel headers?
<mrben> presumably linux-headers....
* mrben stfw
* mrben attempts to build virtualbox
<GazzaK> X3N, not in this weather, it is too cold to be chased about by scary angry builders
<gord> I wish it would snow here :( not fair that all the rubbish southeners get it all
<Seeker`> GazzaK: it would warm you up
<GazzaK> true it would, but if they caught me, i'd get hurt
<d2812> Does anyone know how to put a machine into standby from the command line?
<mrben> apmsleep
<mrben> apmsleep --standby
<mrben> specifically
<d2812> thank you :)
<mrben> never tried it, of course
<mrben> so don't blame me if it goes wrong ;)
<DaveMorris> what channel do ubuntu package mainters hang around in?
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<mrben> DaveMorris: #goatpr0n
<DaveMorris> found it, #ubuntu-motu
<X3N> maintainer of the universe :)
<DaveMorris> I'm not getting any answers there atm, so I wonder if y0ou guys know
<DaveMorris> pkg-config
<DaveMorris> grr
<DaveMorris> I've looked through loads of documents but I can't find this out. I've built a package and can install it. However I want to create a pkg-config entry the packagename.pc file. IS this done using the packager toolds or within the autotools part
<gord> ugh, just don't use autotools DaveMorris, its crap and anyone worth their salt is moving over to scons these days, scons is fantastic
<DaveMorris> so whats the major difference between using autoconf/automake and libtool compared to scons?
<gord> simplicity and power really, you don't encounter annoyances like your suffering and its powered by python so its nice and clean
<DaveMorris> do you know whats ment to create the pc file? the tool chain or the packager?
<gord> I haven't used autotools based systems in a long while DaveMorris
<Seeker`> hmm
<Seeker`> have there been any posts to the ubuntu-uk mailing list today?
<gord> a few
<Seeker`> hmm
<Seeker`> i haven't recieved them
<popey> a few today
<Seeker`> did the one i just sent reach the list?
<popey> yes
<popey> tsk tsk
<popey> test messages
<popey> bad Seeker`
<Seeker`> sowwie
<Seeker`> its odd that i didnt receive anything posted today / yesderday
<popey> did you receive your test message?
<Seeker`> yeah
<Seeker`> but i changed the address i was using just before that
<Seeker`> popey: think up something interesting to post to the list so i can see if i receive other peoples stuff
<Seeker`> woo, i fixed it
<GazzaK> you fixed what you broke? woo :p
<joachim-n> hi
<Seeker`> hi
<popey> Seeker`: what was it?
<Seeker`> popey: It was the filtering at my end, sending the email to Inbox.Inbox.Linux.Ubuntu.UK
<popey> Well.Well.Well.
<Seeker`> although i'm not 100% sure its fixed - will have to wait for an email to come through
<Seeker`> popey: Three holes in the ground?
* popey pokes Seeker` with a test message
* Seeker` hasn't received anything
* Seeker` sighs
<GazzaK> Seeker`, is it still broken? :-(
<Seeker`> i'm not getting anything through
* Seeker` blames GazzaK
<GazzaK> wassntme
<DaveMorris> I also get nothing to my domain from the Sussex LUG mailing list, they've not been able to work out why yet
<DaveMorris> I don't even get an SMTP connection
<Seeker`> it gets to my domain
<Seeker`> cause when i dont have the filter on it gets to my inbox
<Seeker````> net died :(
<tito_linux> Hi
<DaveMorris> hey
<tito_linux> I'm confused, I'm stuck between political options. I am a eursceptic, yet the european commision seems to be doing FOSS a favour.
<DaveMorris> depends what sort of eurosceptic you are I guess
<tito_linux> Immediate withdrawal from the European Union
<tito_linux> (EUSSR!)
<DaveMorris> then yeah, I'd say you prob have a conflict
<tito_linux> Hmm, politics or computing
<tito_linux> OK, not a worry anymore
<tito_linux> Sorted it out :)
<tito_linux> Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
* Seeker```` just discovered he had 5 yahoo accounts
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<Seeker`> hometime!
<jamesbrose> boo!
<tsmithe> hihi
<medders> evenin'
<tito_linux> Hi
<tito_linux> hi
<jamesbrose> hey tito_linux
<jamesbrose> Quiet today
<tito_linux> Indeed
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<tito_linux> HI
<jamesbrose> bleh
<jamesbrose> I-need-coffee!
<tito_linux> I've got coffee
<tito_linux> I'm going for more coffee
<tito_linux> Java no. 9 :)
<tito_linux> I really want a system76!!!
<tito_linux> The linuxemporium options are crap
<chaddy> laptop you're after, tito_linux?
<tito_linux> Yeah
<tito_linux> chaddy: Had any experience?
<chaddy> not really, was going to suggest http://efficientpc.co.uk/ , but they don't do laptops
<chaddy> at least, not yet
<chaddy> afaik they are pretty new
<tito_linux> Wow
<chaddy> I'm very tempted by their MythTV basebox
<tito_linux> I'm tempted to build my own
<Seeker`> lo
<AdamBagnall> Evening
<Nik_Doof> how well is powerbook hardware in ubuntu?
<Seeker`> hmm
<Seeker`> i am reinstalling edgy
<Seeker`> i have 20GB on one hard drive free
<Seeker`> and 40GB on another free
<Seeker`> how would you suggest i partition it?
<chaddy> 40 as /home, 20 split into a gig of swap, and root?
<dsas> makes sense to me
<tito_linux> I concur
<chaddy> though, 19 for / is probably excessive, might want to make use of some of it some other way...
<linux1> hiya folks
<dsas> hi linux1

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