<kupesoft> Anyone from Toronto?

<tonyyarusso> kupesoft: the one who just left is. And another one too...

<tonyyarusso> A moment too late!

<kupesoft> I'm contemplating showing up to the meeting tonight at 6:30,

<kupesoft> I guess they'll be there,

<kupesoft> The ubuntu/linux users group

<tonyyarusso> Ah, yeah. lophyte is almost always at those I know.

<Madpilot> they probably just left for it - it's just past 6 EST, isn't it?

<tonyyarusso> Yeah

<tonyyarusso> That was a quick commute

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<ryanakca> tonyyarusso: you order the book?

<MagicFab> ok, now up at http://www.ubuntu.com/employment#head-3c4c9cd9ac1c11061543006756afde0241186599

<Burgwork> MagicFab: what is that?

<MagicFab> An awful anchor to part of that page, I guess :)

<ejer> ha

<Burgwork> that is a known moin issue

<Burgwork> however, moin insists on using moin for a bug tracker

<Burgwork> for which I lambasted them awhile back

<tonyyarusso> ryanakca: not yet

<somerville32> MagicFab: Question: Why do you need to know how to use Microsoft Windows to work for Canonical's office in Montral?

<somerville32> *Montreal

<tonyyarusso> That's a very good question

<MagicFab> somerville32, for example deskto users mostly migrated from Windows

<somerville32> Ah

<MagicFab> somerville32, and in server environments there are situations where you need to know Win XP pro / server etc (samba, file sharing, printer sharing etc)

<somerville32> You guys do use Ubuntu desktop right?

<MagicFab> somerville32, yes

<dimeo> Wow 20 ppl!

<dimeo> any1 from KW Cambridge Guelph area?

<tonyyarusso> I have a friend from KW, fwiw.

<MagicFab> anyone planning to go to Ubucon ?

<tonyyarusso> What's that?

<dimeo> does he use ubuntu tony?

<tonyyarusso> dimeo: She, and not yet. We'll see. ;)

<dimeo> Magic.. is Ubucon in ontario possibly?

<tonyyarusso> She's an English major, and mildly terrified of technology.

<MagicFab> dimeo, no, NYC USA

<tonyyarusso> However, her boyfriend and I removed IE and installed FF while she wasn't looking, so I may be able to convert her by force :)

<dimeo> Tony: i was hoping there might be a user group for ubuntu in the golden triangle area

<MagicFab> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TheUbucon

<tonyyarusso> dimeo: Not a large one anyway. Toronto has a very active group, and we have users from down the 401, but not a lot / not organized, yet.

<dimeo> hahah... tony you should attack her M$office and subvert it with openoffice next

<somerville32> MagicFab, Will you fly me down and pay for accommodations?

<tonyyarusso> dimeo: We may!

<tonyyarusso> dimeo: On the upside, she's willing to grant me that I know what I'm talking about, so my recommendations do carry some weight :)

<tonyyarusso> Everybody should go hit this, btw: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm

<MagicFab> somerville32, hey it's only ~8hrs by car

<dimeo> MAgic: get those passports ready :-/

<somerville32> MagicFab: Come pick me up then? :P

<somerville32> tonyyarusso, I would love to do that but I don't think I'm the best person to represent Linux in a battle like that

<rexbron_> tonyyarusso: read the XP lover in the Phillipines : Widows works out of the box

<rexbron_> rofl

<tonyyarusso> MagicFab: If someone paid my way and I wouldn't miss too much class that would be cool.

<tonyyarusso> rexbron_: XP lover in PH?

<rexbron_> tonyyarusso: or check out Dan Garbutt

<rexbron_> OSX, the os others copy....

<tonyyarusso> ah, hehe

<rexbron_> like "spaces" that was the NEW FEATURE that apple introduced

<rexbron_> X had that in what 1989?

<rexbron_> the general comment for OSX is fanboys complaining about how every one copies and steals from apple

<tonyyarusso> something like that

<rexbron_> wow there was one linux guy

<tonyyarusso> I figure even if we're not going to be selected we should get better represented in the list of comments :)

<MagicFab> tonyyarusso, I get it :) I doubt anyone's getting paid to be there

<tonyyarusso> MagicFab: Yeah, don't think so. I'd be happy to pay my way if I could, but the being unemployed thing limits those sorts of excursions.

<MagicFab> tonyyarusso, I'll even have to use a "conference leave' day

<tonyyarusso> holy cow...someone on there uses Amiga!

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<somerville32> I think linux.org should get a face lift

<somerville32> A lot of people link to it when talk about Linux

<somerville32> linux.org might be people's first impression of Linux

<tonyyarusso> true

<dimeo> where in TO and when does the ubuntu group usually meet?

<tonyyarusso> linuxcaffe (see their web site), Wednesday nights at 6:30, either every week or every other.

<tonyyarusso> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Toronto for more I think

<rexbron> dimeo: its every other week

<dimeo> himm I may just have to drive down some nite. I'd love to see a group in the golden triangle area though

<dimeo> well nite all!

<johanbr> I hadn't played with Beryl for a while, it's looking pretty blingy now: http://nullinfinity.org/tmp/beryl.jpg

<PFA> johanbr: whose screencap is that

<johanbr> Mine.

<johanbr> Just managed to get Beryl working again. It used to segfault, for some reason...

<PFA> ah

<johanbr> Well, time to call it a night I think...

<lophyte> hey all

<Madpilot> hi lophyte

<lophyte> how's it going

<lophyte> ping rexbron

<Madpilot> lophyte, good, rest of the week is going to be busy, though - big annual banquet coming up on Friday, lots of last minute org crap for that, I'm sure...

* tonyyarusso grabs dinner (don't laugh)

<lophyte> ahh

<tonyyarusso> mmmm, soup and grapefruit

<tonyyarusso> btw, for those of you who shop on a budget but still need, you know, sustenance, I recommend the Cambell's "Chunky" line

<lophyte> I like their 'Ready to Serve' better

<tonyyarusso> Is that the microwave kind?

<lophyte> no. its kinda like chunky

<lophyte> there's just more liquid in it, I think

<tonyyarusso> Ah, okay

<Madpilot> meh. real soup is homemade. buy a small slow-cooker, those make soup making so easy even I can do it well.

<lophyte> indeed

<lophyte> we had slow-cooked beef stew the other night

<tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Actually, I have a Crock Pot.

<tonyyarusso> It's _really_ hard to buy veggies, meat, etc. for soup in one-person portions though.

<Madpilot> just keep the soup going, that way you don't have to buy one-person portions

<tonyyarusso> Like, continuously? For a few days until you eat it all?

<Madpilot> for weeks. just boil it all up and keep it in the fridge

<Madpilot> add leftovers, if you've got them

<tonyyarusso> interesting

<Madpilot> I'll often keep a winter soup going for a month or six weeks, in the crockpot. Start with a big potful, top up when needed.

<tonyyarusso> I'll have to try that.

<tonyyarusso> If things pan out and I end up living with people who share my food tastes next year this might get easier.

<Madpilot> the family name for a long soup like that is "breeding soup" - a name that requires careful explanation sometimes!

<tonyyarusso> Do tell

<somerville32> Madpilot: ping

<Madpilot> somerville32, hi

<somerville32> Burgwork, ping

<Madpilot> somerville32, it's 2243 local, Burgwork won't be at work

<somerville32> Madpilot: When will he be at home?

<somerville32> Speak of the devil

<Madpilot> hi Burgundavia

<Burgundavia> hey Madpilot, somerville32

<tonyyarusso> Aaaaaaa it's the devil!

<tonyyarusso> ....or something

<Burgundavia> hey tonyyarusso

<Burgundavia> afaik, I am not the devil

<Madpilot> only after his third or fourth beer, tonyyarusso

<tonyyarusso> ah, okay then

<tonyyarusso> hey non-devil Burgundavia :)

<Madpilot> of course, after beer #5, he just passes out ;)

<tonyyarusso> I'll never know my number :P

<Madpilot> I need sleep. g'night, all. Don't let the mad ops bite.

<tonyyarusso> sigh

<siccness> Hey, you blokes awake?

<tonyyarusso> Kinda

<siccness> Heh

<siccness> Just a quick question unrelated to Ubuntu

<tonyyarusso> Give it a try

<siccness> What's a good beer from Canada?

<tonyyarusso> Hmm, I'm not the best reference for that.

<siccness> Damn :|

<tonyyarusso> Ask Madpilot or Burgundavia for that one.

<siccness> Ok, btw, what's the time over there?

<tonyyarusso> I don't really drink, sorry :P (But they definitely do)

<tonyyarusso> 04:00.........

<siccness> Hehe, nah it's all good mate.

<siccness> 4am? eek :P

<tonyyarusso> Time flies on IRC

<siccness> Only reason I ask is that I'm hoping to head over to Canada soon

<Burgundavia> what part of Canada?

<tonyyarusso> Ah, cool. From?

<siccness> (I'm from Australia, and as you might know, we love our beer)

<siccness> Burgundavia: Not sure yet, still gotta get some cash, but I was hoping the east-coast.

<tonyyarusso> hilight ftw

<tonyyarusso> We have someone in New Brunswick, I believe.

<tonyyarusso> Not sure how many Ubunteros on the east coast

<siccness> Burgundavia: You wouldn't happen to know of a good beer from your country?

<Burgundavia> beers in canada are fairly local, the good ones that is

<siccness> tonyyarusso: Ahh ok, yeah nah I just saw this mad documentary on Canada a few months ago. Looks like a wonderful place.

<Burgundavia> there are crappy national ones

<siccness> Heheh

<siccness> I've only had 2 Canadian beers, one Labatt Blue? and Kokanee?

<siccness> Something like those, they were Ok.

<Burgundavia> right

<Burgundavia> you poor poor soul

<siccness> Heh

<tonyyarusso> Kokanee's from your part isn't it Burgundavia ?

<Burgundavia> sadly, yes

<siccness> Well those two beers were better than anything America has produced.

<tonyyarusso> :(

<siccness> (or brewed if you will) :)

<tonyyarusso> siccness: Well, careful there.

<Burgundavia> sadly yes

<tonyyarusso> The US is the same way - the local small distribution stuff is your best shot.

<tonyyarusso> Bud & co are crap of course

<siccness> Heh yeah

<siccness> Do you guys get Australian beer or?

<Burgundavia> fosters

<siccness> (Fosters doesn't count, because we hate it :P)

<tonyyarusso> Leinenkugel's is decent I'm told, Summit and Superior are also good (for my area)

<siccness> yup cool

<siccness> do you recommend the westcoast over the east in Canada?

<Burgundavia> I live in the west, so yes

<siccness> heh

<siccness> makes sense then :)

<tonyyarusso> Beats me. I haven't been to either :(

<tonyyarusso> I wouldn't recommend where I am though. It's fine to be for a couple years of school, but all told, it's pretty lame.

<tonyyarusso> If you're into scenery though, north and west of here are amazing.

<tonyyarusso> Here being Peterborough, Ontario - near Toronto..

<siccness> Ahh yeah

<Burgundavia> I am in Victoria, far west

<tonyyarusso> If you have a chance to do the Lake Superior circle tour ever, I recommend that.

<siccness> Yeah this doco showed a place on the eastcoast, where the hotel was on a cliff and you could see the waves crashing into the rocks, looked un real.

<tonyyarusso> Superior's like that too - just freshwater.

<tonyyarusso> In November the storms can make waves over 30m high.

<siccness> Yeah? I'm guessing winter over there is around then?

<tonyyarusso> Well, this year winter didn't really kick in until last week, but normally November is the start of the season in seriousness.

<siccness> Nice. Yeah I'd love to visit in your winter-time. Everyone says Canada is exactly like Australia, same type of culture, personalities just colder-weather.

<Burgundavia> anyway, I need to sleep

<tonyyarusso> I don't think you can make national statements on culture - it seems to vary widely.

<tonyyarusso> me too

<siccness> Fair enough, thanks for your help guys. Much appreciated, I'll have to pop back in soon and have a chat. Take care.

<DracarD> Na nit a tothom

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