| * Seeker` has raised a support ticket | |
| <mdke> good idea | |
| <popey> \o/ | |
| * popey checks the tickets | |
| <mdke> popey: he means a Dreamhost support ticket. | |
| <popey> ahh | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> I am so NOT on form tonight | |
| <popey> and | |
| <popey> are you following me, picking up my crap along the way :) | |
| * Seeker` wonders if he should raise an ubuntu bug that not enough support tickets are being raised for popey to deal with | |
| <popey> I have slacked off a little on the support tickets | |
| <popey> also noticed the karma is not being updated | |
| <Seeker`> :O | |
| <popey> busy doing screencasts :) | |
| <Seeker`> someone else pointed that out | |
| <Seeker`> thats ok then | |
| * popey reported bug 81203 | |
| <mdke> popey: nod at the stalking bit | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <Seeker`> odd bug | |
| <popey> i only noticed by holding down the mute button | |
| * popey notes it happens on both feisty boxes he has | |
| <Seeker`> popey: different types of machine? | |
| <popey> Seeker`: check the bug now | |
| <popey> i have added an attachment :) | |
| <nlogax> what's all this talk of support tickets? is this the new Ubuntu support crew? | |
| <popey> nlogax: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+tickets | |
| <popey> the ubuntu support ticket system | |
| <nlogax> ok, so it's not the Ubuntu paid for support | |
| <popey> no, community support | |
| <popey> which is just as good ;) | |
| <nlogax> kewl... is that a Canonical initiative? | |
| <popey> although if canonical wanted to pay me, I wouldn't say no of course. | |
| <nlogax> I am happy for them to make some doleros from selling Pay For support too | |
| <popey> well, it's a launchpad product | |
| <popey> sure, but some people don't want to pay or can't afford to | |
| <popey> so community support works for them | |
| <nlogax> Ubuntu will probably want to have Follow the Sun support teams in say 3 or 4 global locations | |
| <popey> obviously the service level agreements are somewhat lower | |
| <nlogax> aye | |
| <popey> well.. we kinda do :) | |
| <popey> I answer questions when I am awake | |
| <popey> people in the US answer them when I sleep :) | |
| <nlogax> oh, do the Pay For / SLA support contracts also operate 24h? | |
| <popey> i don't know, I don't have any paid support contracts | |
| <popey> they're based out of Toronto I think | |
| <mdke> montreal, please! | |
| <popey> I have heard good things about them | |
| <popey> ah, sorry | |
| <popey> thanks *again* mdke | |
| <mdke> lol | |
| <mdke> this was the most serious one yet, those french canadians get very excited about such things | |
| <popey> ahh | |
| * mdke looks around for any | |
| <popey> am I getting progressively worse as the night moves on then? | |
| <popey> should I quit now? | |
| <nlogax> yes, so I'm saying that the Pay For support, which is what businesses need, should be 24H/follow the sun | |
| <popey> please guide me oh wise one ;) | |
| <popey> indeed nlogax | |
| * popey notes that attaching ogg videos to bug reports is a cool thing to do :) | |
| <nlogax> so, from that I was inferring that your community support could lead to a paid position some day perhaps :-) | |
| <popey> hah | |
| <popey> no chance | |
| <popey> I am under no illusion that canonical would employ an oik like me | |
| <mdke> don't be so harsh on yourself | |
| <mdke> canonical ain't that hot | |
| <popey> heh | |
| * Seeker` goes to find VLC for windows | |
| <popey> well, I look at the people who work for them, and actually look up to those people | |
| <mdke> I mean, look at all those people working for them | |
| <mdke> >_> | |
| <mdke> <_< | |
| * popey looks left | |
| * popey looks right | |
| <popey> they have some truly "awesome" people working for them IMO | |
| <mdke> yeah, of course they do. They're all goddamn awesome | |
| <popey> I mean, I'd have SJRs babies if I was that way inclined | |
| <popey> and of course if he was :) | |
| <nlogax> they're good, but you could catch up if you put in the effort (which I'm sure you are) | |
| <nlogax> and besides, sometimes it comes down to simple (person)-power | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <popey> yes, simple-person, that's about right :) | |
| <nlogax> when you've got all the best people but you still need more, you start recruiting the slightly below excellent etc | |
| <popey> heheh | |
| <mdke> popey: if he was? | |
| * nlogax notes evidence of binary thinking :-0 | |
| <mdke> you mean, if he could have babies, I suppose | |
| <popey> takes two to tango mdke | |
| <nlogax> Yeah, SJR is leet and I've met him a few times... very nice guy | |
| <nlogax> swapped a Gnome tee for an Ubuntu one at Linuxworld London in 05 | |
| <mdke> popey: i suppose you could do the childbirth bit | |
| <nlogax> i do get the impression that Canonical wants to run a fairly lean organisation though | |
| <popey> I was kinda being metaphorical | |
| <mdke> nlogax: they are expanding pretty fast recently | |
| <popey> kinda "I'd not kick him out of bed" | |
| <mdke> I'm sure he would kick you out either | |
| * mdke goes to look at popey's hackergotchi just to make sure | |
| <popey> can any of you see gallery.popey.com? | |
| * mdke nods confirmation | |
| <popey> does it resolve? | |
| <popey> heh, thanks | |
| <chaddy> popey is a fine figure of a man, in his prime, any man would be lucky to get him &c | |
| <mdke> yes, resolves | |
| <popey> must be my screwy internal bind then | |
| <popey> \o/ fixed bind | |
| * popey hugs free software once again | |
| <mdke> heh | |
| <popey> so, the reason I wanted my gallery.. | |
| <mdke> providing you with a reason to stay up late and piss off your family since 19** | |
| <popey> http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/LinuxWorldExpo2006/DSC02544 | |
| <popey> SJR touched my laptop! | |
| <popey> I have not cleaned it since | |
| <mdke> in a sexual way? | |
| <Seeker`> who is that in the photo? | |
| <mdke> this hero worship stuff is bad for you | |
| <popey> the one facing my laptop is Scott James Remnant | |
| <chaddy> he's a dude and a half, been reading some of his man pages | |
| <popey> I have to say I do not know the guy on the left, but he was/is very friendly | |
| * mdke flicks through the photos | |
| <popey> uh-oh | |
| <mdke> wow there are a couple of girls at that geekathon | |
| <popey> http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/LinuxWorldExpo2006/DSC02534 | |
| <popey> she was really nice | |
| <nlogax> geek girls are an unknown quantity | |
| <popey> american student who wanted to install ubuntu because the people in her class taunted her :) | |
| <nlogax> I would really like to meet one | |
| <popey> I met one recently at work | |
| <mdke> you're looking at her in what can only be described as a disturbing manner | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <popey> I am in mid-talk | |
| <nlogax> well I got my GF to start using Ubuntu, though I have trouble getting her excited about CLI | |
| <popey> not just going öooh ooh ooh o ooohhh | |
| <mdke> lol | |
| <mdke> nlogax: gross | |
| * nlogax checks channel name again in alarm | |
| <mdke> my girlfriend uses Ubuntu too, she whinges about it all the time | |
| <popey> woman I met at work is an über geek | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <nlogax> no she's about average weight | |
| <popey> my wife used xp, then I moved her to debian, then ubuntu | |
| <popey> I almost never get computer questions from her | |
| <nlogax> my GF, who is uber-political, anti-capitalist etc moans about Ubuntu sometimes too | |
| <popey> the main ones are "someone sent me an attachment, what do I use to open it" | |
| <mdke> don't you get "why doesn't this website work?" "Why doesn't this video work"? | |
| <popey> rarely | |
| <popey> odd website here and there | |
| <nlogax> I quickly shut her up with some well-placed quips about monopolies and freedom | |
| <popey> but most are okay | |
| <popey> she goes to pretty mainstream sites | |
| <popey> next.co.uk, m&s.com, sainsburystoyou.co.uk | |
| <popey> do you see a themee? | |
| <mdke> nlogax: that shuts her up? | |
| <mdke> are you sure she's female? | |
| * Seeker` should try to get his GF on to ubuntu | |
| <nlogax> yeah... she is forced to accept that she can't complain about the increasing corporate control at the same time as using M$ | |
| <mdke> sounds like an exceptional lady | |
| <nlogax> hmm I do sometimes wonder at her gender, but physical inspections have nixed any doubts I might have had | |
| <mdke> sounds like she's displayed logic too | |
| <mdke> I'd enquire further | |
| * mdke stops the sexism now | |
| <nlogax> politically-minded young folk are an enormous untapped resource for free software | |
| <nlogax> the argument hasn't yet been presented to them in a big way, but it will gain traction | |
| <mdke> true | |
| <nlogax> I'm trying to get my younger brother interested in doing LPIC with me, starting with the free IBM LPIC online study guide | |
| <nlogax> he's finding every excuse in the book... despite being convinced of the merits of free softs | |
| * nlogax sighs | |
| <nlogax> I guess it's past late o'clock in the UK now | |
| <popey> whats the name of the remastering thing? | |
| <popey> for re-creating cd images? | |
| <popey> recombobulator or something | |
| * mdke doesn't know this one | |
| <popey> aha | |
| <popey> reconstructor | |
| <popey> http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 | |
| <Seeker`> snow! | |
| <nlogax> you're not the first to announce it here | |
| <Seeker`> i know | |
| <Seeker`> i was, infact, shouting at the snow | |
| <Seeker`> as it now means that i have difficulty getting to work | |
| <nlogax> ah, my commiserations | |
| <Seeker`> lo GazzaK | |
| <popey> morning ladies | |
| <chaddy> morning all | |
| <GazzaK> morning Seeker` popey chaddy :-) snowy :-))) | |
| <chaddy> we had some yesterday, all gone now | |
| <GazzaK> slippy slidey on the way in :-) | |
| <Seeker`> time to head to work | |
| <Seeker`> seeya | |
| <mrben> morning all | |
| <GazzaK> hi mrben | |
| <popey> yo bitch | |
| <GazzaK> hey, I thought you were my bitch | |
| <popey> I'm spreading my love around pumpkin | |
| <GazzaK> okay petal | |
| <popey> morning jono | |
| <jono> heypop | |
| <jono> popey: | |
| <Seeker`> morning | |
| <Seeker`> again | |
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| *** gord has joined #ubuntu-uk | |
| <GazzaK> hehe | |
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| <daviey> Hi, i have a proble. On reboot fsck found some problems. I repaired these using fsck. Now i get an error "Failed to start X server.....". How can i repair? Thanx | |
| <daviey> anybody? | |
| <snail> daviey: have you rebooted cleanly since you did the fsck? | |
| <daviey> yes | |
| <snail> daviey: have you rerun fsck to check that the problems are really fixed ? | |
| <snail> if a second fsck sees problems it usually means that your disk is dying / dead | |
| <daviey> snail: no, i will do that | |
| <snail> you really want #ubuntu for this, rather than #ubuntu-uk | |
| <daviey> okay, cheers | |
| <snail> daviey: when you've done that you may need to reinstall / reconfigure packages that got their files damaged by the disk problems | |
| <snail> i used to know a command line that reinstalled all the packages on the system, I'll look for it | |
| <daviey> ;) | |
| <daviey> However, i'm currently in livecd with the rootfs mounted | |
| <popey> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs | |
| <popey> iiinteresting | |
| <popey> dell selling naked pcs (no OS installed) | |
| <daviey> popey: not in the uk though!? | |
| <GazzaK> popey, Note: Dell does not support non-Dell installed operating systems. lol | |
| <GazzaK> really! | |
| <popey> its a step in the right direction | |
| <snail> popey: it's a play in the their war to drive down their vista costs | |
| <daviey> yeah, do you remember a few years ago they gave the option of installing a linux flavour and MS threatened to pull the special rates for oem licences! | |
| <treb0r> When do you think dell uk will start selling them? | |
| * popey shrugs | |
| <treb0r> I'm sure there would be a huge market for them | |
| <snail> daviey: http://www.nslug.ns.ca/pipermail/nslug/2005-November/008758.html | |
| <daviey> really? | |
| <treb0r> Has anybody ever tried selling machines preloaded with ubuntu? | |
| <daviey> treb0r: i think there will be a small market! | |
| <popey> treb0r: yes, linuxemporium do | |
| <snail> it will complain about some packages, use grep -v to remove them | |
| <treb0r> maybe relatively small, but growing fast... | |
| <daviey> snail: thanks... will try | |
| <robbo> Hello,can you help me how can i play game NEXUIZ online?... | |
| <popey> hello robbo | |
| <robbo> hello popey | |
| <snail> robbo: do you have a url for this game? | |
| <robbo> no | |
| <popey> where does the gam come from? | |
| <robbo> maybe i will look to install information....... | |
| <snail> is it the one at http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/ ? | |
| <popey> http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/ | |
| <popey> robbo: what version of ubuntu are you running? | |
| <robbo> 6,06 dapper drake | |
| <popey> it is a packaged application in edgy and above | |
| <popey> so you can install with synaptic | |
| <robbo> yes i have installedd | |
| <snail> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/games/nexuiz | |
| <robbo> http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/ | |
| <popey> so what is the problem then robbo ? | |
| <snail> robbo: are you asking how to start it once installed? | |
| <snail> robbo: or instructions for gameplay? | |
| <robbo> yes it installed so when i start play it will be multiplayer?... | |
| <robbo> because i dont speak very good english | |
| <snail> robbo: what is your native language? | |
| <robbo> czech | |
| <snail> ask on #ubuntu-cz rather than #ubuntu-uk ? | |
| <robbo> yes i know,but there is nobody.. | |
| <robbo> ok,thanx i will try later.. | |
| <snail> robbo: i don't think anyone here plays the game | |
| <robbo> ok,no problemo!!!Thx!!! | |
| <gord> I remeber trying it ones a long time ago and it was easy to play it multiplayer, didn't have to set up anything or anything like that. but it was a long time ago and my memory is hazy | |
| <popey> http://robitaille.wordpress.com/2007/01/24/will-linspires-cnr-for-ubuntu-users-become-a-challenge-for-the-bug-squad/ | |
| <popey> that is a worr | |
| <popey> +y | |
| <gord> sounds like a company supported automatix, I can't see too many people using a service like that though | |
| <snail> popey: i have no idea what kind of architecture they're using, but if they're sensible there will be a way for host operating systems to (a) get a list of installed CNR packages (b) uninstall the CNR packages (c) <upgrade host operating system> (d) reinstall CNR packages | |
| <gord> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6288119.stm <--- sounds like something that needs to get hammered by floss users submitting their reasons -_- | |
| <popey> snail: but users will not be that bright | |
| <popey> they will say "I just installed firefx" and not say where or how | |
| <mrben> gord: I think it already is.... | |
| <popey> in their support questions | |
| <popey> they have stopped posting comments thuogh | |
| <popey> they only put ~30 on | |
| <snail> popey: i was more thinking of the upgrade issue also mentioned in that url | |
| <popey> indeed | |
| <popey> but update-manager won know about it, will it | |
| <snail> popey: there's no reason that every CNR-for-ubuntu app couldn't ship with a tiny deb containing the tech to tell the update-manager about it | |
| <gord> surely they would use the apt system but just provide their own repository's and own version of synaptic?.. well more like add/remove programs. not using the apt system would be pretty thick | |
| <popey> you try it first :) | |
| <snail> I have foolishly sent a SIGTTIN to a process which I don't have access to the controlling terminal for. is there another signal i can send to restart it? | |
| <snail> SIGCONT does the trick | |
| <popey> helo thefish | |
| <thefish> hi popey | |
| <thefish> :) | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> welcome to my world :) | |
| <thefish> huzzah! | |
| <GazzaK> your world? | |
| * thefish is still trying to figure out how to make the source install of vbox nice and neat | |
| <thefish> grrr, now when i install the .deb in dapper, it claims the module is not found! | |
| *** Seeker`` is now known as Seeker` | |
| <Seeker`> can someone say my name, so i can test something? | |
| <GazzaK> no | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, :p | |
| <Seeker`> bah, didn't work | |
| <popey> what you doing? | |
| <popey> highlight? | |
| <Seeker`> trying to | |
| <Seeker`> in irssi | |
| <Seeker`> i have a script i found | |
| <Seeker`> but it doesn't work | |
| <Seeker`> claims it cant find notify-send | |
| <constrictor> hey | |
| <Seeker`> hi | |
| <constrictor> just saying hello to everyone | |
| <GazzaK> hello everyone | |
| <constrictor> has the ubuntu wiki always been this slow? | |
| <constrictor> i've been trying to sort out my userpreferences it's just taking a while though | |
| <popey> it sometimes is sluggish | |
| <constrictor> it was fine till i clicked on save changes | |
| <constrictor> anyways i'm patient | |
| <constrictor> constrictors are always known to be patient.... | |
| <popey> ooookay | |
| <constrictor> hahahaha | |
| <popey> constrictors in Windows vista are eeeeevil! | |
| <constrictor> i didn't know about those | |
| <constrictor> must be a new species | |
| <popey> if you are watching "premium content" (HD-DVD, Blu-Ray etc), and Windows detects you are not using encryption-supported hardware (HDCP over HDMI for example) it downscales then upscales the video to deliberately "fuzzy" it | |
| <popey> the thing that does that is called a constrictor | |
| <constrictor> oh right | |
| <constrictor> that's terrible | |
| <constrictor> i'd never do anything like that, is it written in python or something | |
| <popey> highly unlikely | |
| <gord> I still don't understand how microsoft gets away with doing stuff like that... | |
| <popey> monopoloy | |
| <popey> evil | |
| <popey> rearrange those words | |
| <gord> yes but it should be upto us (or rather, the government we put In charge) to make sure that doesn't happen, but clearly it does and thats a puzzlement | |
| <gord> also apparently puzzlement is an actual word o_O | |
| <popey> http://newsbiscuit.com/article/courage-award-for-man-who-threw-out-old-computer-cables | |
| <popey> made me chuckle | |
| <popey> not seen LMM around theseparts for a while | |
| * Seeker` wonders where he has disappeared to | |
| <gord> hehe *hides all the old wires and cables he has all over the places* | |
| <constrictor> ya just added myself to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Gallery/Members | |
| * popey click0rs | |
| * Seeker` tests out a new theme | |
| <Seeker`> grr | |
| <Seeker`> i cant see who does any actions | |
| <X3N> has anyone got a belkin wireless G dongle ? | |
| <popey> X3N: is it a ralink device? | |
| <popey> rt61 perchance? | |
| <popey> home time \o/ | |
| <jamesbrose> Hmm | |
| <jamesbrose> Having trouble with zones.. | |
| <X3N> yeah it is | |
| <X3N> think i found out how to do it | |
| <X3N> needs the latest driver | |
| <jamesbrose> Does this look right? http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/365/dns7px.png Linking to the IP 81.109.229.252.. | |
| <jamesbrose> Just web not email or anything.. | |
| <X3N> yes | |
| <X3N> if you mean .152 | |
| <jamesbrose> yeah lol | |
| <jamesbrose> Does it normally take some time to 'work' ? | |
| <snail> X3N: i had a wireless dongle and hated it. | |
| <snail> X3N: not sure whether it was a bad fit in the USB connection, whether it kept getting knocked, or what, but it was very unreliable and had a bad antanna | |
| <jamesbrose> X3n, once ive added the zones, do I have to actually do anything to the server its pointing to? | |
| <DaveMorris> grrr, came to work this morning to fine my HDD had failed | |
| <giulius> hi | |
| <giulius> who can help me with my wireless connection? | |
| <snail> giulius: we're not telepathic, so we can't unless you tell us what the problem is. you'll have better luck in #ubundu anyway i suspect | |
| <giulius> :-) | |
| <Seeker`> hometime :D | |
| <giulius> my ubuntu 6.10 crash with my netgear wpn111 usb | |
| <snail> giulius: define "crash" | |
| <giulius> the pen usb starts and all is blocked | |
| <giulius> it starts with blu light | |
| <snail> have you installed drivers for the thing? have you googled to see whether it's sypported? | |
| <giulius> yes | |
| <snail> yes to which question? | |
| <giulius> in mandriva 2007 starts well but in ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu it crashs | |
| <giulius> yes i see a lot of configuration in google | |
| <giulius> but i think it's a problem of kernel | |
| <giulius> in ubuntu 6.06 it starts | |
| <snail> giulius: the drivers for hardware are specific to a kernel. you need a specific driver for each distro | |
| <giulius> i use it with ndiswrapper | |
| <snail> ndiswrapper is evil, i've never had much luck with it | |
| <giulius> good :-( | |
| <giulius> the chip of penusb is atheros | |
| <giulius> and there isn't driver in linux | |
| <giulius> i test also with driverloader from linuxant but same | |
| <giulius> i read something about stack of kernel but i don't know what to do | |
| <snail> giulius: not sure. maybe ask on #ubuntu | |
| <popey> evening all | |
| <giulius> i try but there are a lot of people and nobody answare | |
| <medders> popey: hi | |
| <giulius> i must stay in my mandriva i hope :-) | |
| <popey> how does it work in mandriva then? | |
| <popey> ndiswrapper? | |
| <giulius> yes | |
| <popey> if something works in one distro, it can be made to work in another, it's just down to how much effort you put in to make it work | |
| <giulius> i do a lot of test with ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu linuxmint all the some | |
| <giulius> same | |
| <giulius> all with kernel 2.6.17 | |
| <giulius> but also mandriva has kernel 2.6.17 | |
| <homer_linux> hiya folks | |
| <snail> hi | |
| <popey> hello | |
| <ziadoz> anyone know a good tutorial to help me get aiglx and compiz running edgy? im running a gf mx 440 | |
| <jamesbrose> popey, does this look alright to you - http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/365/dns7px.png ? | |
| <jamesbrose> Just for web (no email etc..) pointing to 81.109.229.152 ? | |
| <norf-ubu> g'day | |
| <ziadoz> anyone know a good tutorial to help me get aiglx and compiz running edgy? im running a gf mx 440 | |
| <alecjw> ziadoz: would beryl reahter htan compiz be ok? | |
| <ziadoz> whats the difference between the two exactly? | |
| <norf-ubu> very little | |
| <ziadoz> oh right | |
| <ziadoz> i dont mind either really | |
| <ziadoz> im running a gf mx440 | |
| <norf-ubu> you have a GeForce card ? | |
| <ziadoz> i got the drivers for it all installed etc | |
| <alecjw> ziadoz: beryl's better, but less stable | |
| <alecjw> ziadoz: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BerylOnEdgy | |
| <alecjw> but bery'l better supported. there's a whole channel (#ubuntu-xgl) pretty much devoted to it | |
| <norf-ubu> less stable as in drops back to "normal" mode as opposed to lock ups etc (IMHO) | |
| <ziadoz> cool | |
| <norf-ubu> two ways to install - follow instructions in #Beryl room as suggested - or install Automatix which does the install for you and add instructions to the desktop - | |
| <norf-ubu> though ppl will probably shy away from the automatix way as it can cause other problems (alledgedley) | |
| <norf-ubu> p://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Main_Page | |
| <norf-ubu> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Main_Page | |
| <norf-ubu> copied n paste busted there :P | |
| <ziadoz> the gpg key thing is taking a while :\ | |
| <ziadoz> i get a broken packages error when i run: sudo apt-get install beryl emerald-themes | |
| <norf-ubu> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm | |
| <ziadoz> says unmet dependancies | |
| <norf-ubu> ok- try that link about | |
| <norf-ubu> i believe that AIGLX is for ATI cards - you need the GLX version for nvidia | |
| <ziadoz> i have nvidia-glx installed | |
| <norf-ubu> in that case the link above will help installing - failing that join #beryl | |
| <ziadoz> i was gonna try it using automatix, but i cant see beryl in there | |
| <ziadoz> nvrmind beryl works now :) | |
| <homer_linux> hiya folks | |
| <Seeker`> hi | |
| <homer_linux> sup seeker | |
| <Seeker`> not much | |
| <tito_linux> Hi | |
| <tito_linux> I have just received a letter from my MP about OSS in schools. | |
| <andy101> was it positive or negative? | |
| <tito_linux> He can't sign an early day motion himself, but forwarded it to the under secretary of state for education and skills (Lord Adonis) and will forward his reply to me | |
| <tito_linux> He seems to support it | |
| <tito_linux> He enclosed the letter he wrote to Lord Adonis and it is very pro-OSS | |
| <tsmithe> my mp couldn't sign either | |
| <tsmithe> he's very interested however | |
| <tsmithe> (as i've said) | |
| <andy101> mine has already signed it, (and he is spokesperson for Higher Education) | |
| <andy101> why can't some MPs sign EDMs? | |
| * andy101 should know more about politics | |
| <tsmithe> andy101, cos it's not their official party policy and they are on the front bench, ? | |
| <andy101> wow, over half the LibDem MPs have signed, gotta love eGovernment statistics | |
| <tito_linux> Uch, the Dim Liberals. |
