| <paradoxical21> Anyone know the command to install something AND get any dependencies that program needs? | |
| <chaddy> morning all | |
| <jono> hey | |
| <chaddy> ubuntu pcs: http://www.efficientpc.co.uk/ | |
| <popey> morning | |
| <GazzaK> morning O Popeyish one | |
| <GazzaK> wooo, 20 servers to look after now, woo yay | |
| * GazzaK runs off on a format c: /q/u spree | |
| <tsmithe> not linux? | |
| <GazzaK> tsmithe, nope, we use notes and other stuff which kinda stops that happening, sadly | |
| <tsmithe> on servers? | |
| <GazzaK> yeah | |
| <tsmithe> meh | |
| * tsmithe finishes his kernel patch | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, thats my thoughts too, but at least it keeps me in employment | |
| <tsmithe> funtastic | |
| <GazzaK> we have had four new starters unable to log in due to not having accounts, for like weeks, due to rubbish processes and policy's, O how I love this place!!! | |
| <tsmithe> all firms have rubbish processes and policies | |
| <tsmithe> (for it) | |
| <tsmithe> my dad always complains | |
| <GazzaK> but since new year??? | |
| <tsmithe> eh? | |
| <GazzaK> it makes me 1. laugh 2. feel sorry for them | |
| <tsmithe> my dad just gets angry | |
| <GazzaK> they have been here since the first working day of jan, and unable to login | |
| <GazzaK> I get angry too | |
| <GazzaK> sadly I also get blamed/harrassed | |
| <tsmithe> :( | |
| * tsmithe updates his svn co of vbox | |
| <tsmithe> ooh updates | |
| * tsmithe updates his svn co of beryl | |
| * tsmithe updates his git clone of the edgy/feisty kernels | |
| <popey> GazzaK: lotus notes runs on linux | |
| <GazzaK> the server? | |
| <GazzaK> I know they have a linux client now | |
| <GazzaK> also we have other stuff, which won't | |
| <GazzaK> plus we have just rolled out active directory | |
| <popey> yes | |
| <popey> there is a linux port of domino, has been for some time | |
| <GazzaK> i'll look into it | |
| <GazzaK> I have a test box here, a ML370 | |
| <popey> :) | |
| * popey ordered ntll broadband to replace his adsl last night | |
| * tsmithe can't get cable | |
| <popey> 10Mb Cable for 27 quid, verses 1Mb DSL for 20 | |
| <popey> "Do the math" as they say over the pond | |
| <tsmithe> bastard! i wish i got that | |
| <tsmithe> *had that | |
| <GazzaK> popey, I have had no home internet since BT Broadband decided to cut me off on the 15th | |
| <popey> :( | |
| <popey> and there will be me, greedy with adsl and cable :) | |
| <popey> i am not going to cancel adsl until the cable works | |
| <GazzaK> I sent a cancellation notice back in dec, and the cancelled that, but the network people never got told of the canceled cancellation.... | |
| <GazzaK> :'( no interwed | |
| <GazzaK> web! | |
| <popey> dialup :) | |
| <GazzaK> noooo | |
| <GazzaK> my phone line socket is in the cupboard, I do not want to live in there | |
| <GazzaK> also if things go well, and the solicitors actually do something, I might be out of that place next wednesday! | |
| <tsmithe> wow... when we moved it took months | |
| <GazzaK> tsmithe, this has been going on since october | |
| <tsmithe> ah k | |
| <tsmithe> :) | |
| <GazzaK> !hi | jono | |
| <ubotu> jono: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! | |
| <jono> hey | |
| <jono> :) | |
| <GazzaK> coffee is there <--- biscuits are here and the sofa is over that way ----> | |
| <jono> heh | |
| <tsmithe> and tsmithe is sick; in the corner ^\ | |
| <mrben> morning all | |
| <tsmithe> hi mrben hi Seeker` | |
| <tsmithe> hey - the latest vbox svn works for bsds!! | |
| <Seeker`> heya | |
| * tsmithe is happier | |
| <GazzaK> morning Seeker` & mrben | |
| <popey> as if by magic, mrben appears | |
| * snail discovers the use of || in bash programming and loves it | |
| <DaveMorris> I'm guessing popey is actually doing some work today | |
| <popey> hahahaha | |
| <popey> funny man | |
| <DaveMorris> I try | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <Seeker`> does popey have a job at the moment? | |
| <DaveMorris> started his new one yesterday I think | |
| <popey> correct | |
| <popey> s/job/contract | |
| <tsmithe> what do you do, popey? | |
| <popey> Standard answer: "as little as possible" | |
| <popey> I am a SAP Technology Consultant | |
| <Seeker`> popey: Where are you doing as little as possible? | |
| <chaddy> snail: go on then, what's it do? | |
| <snail> well, I'm using it to find bad backups: | |
| <snail> for file in */*.tar.gz; do tar -tf $file >> /dev/null || echo $file; done | |
| <snail> that echos the file names of bad tar files | |
| <GazzaK> arghhhhh | |
| * GazzaK wants to inflict pain onto his solicitors | |
| <tsmithe> whattup? | |
| <tsmithe> house move not going smoothely? | |
| <GazzaK> dunno, lack of information | |
| <GazzaK> "I'm waiting for a call back, then i'll call you back" is all I get | |
| <GazzaK> I cannot remember her ever calling me back | |
| <jono> popey: ping! | |
| <jono> popey: do you run the screencast team? | |
| <mrben> jono: are you about to browbeat popey into using Jokosher for recording screencast audio? | |
| <jono> heh, no | |
| <jono> this is ubuntu business :) | |
| <mrben> :) | |
| <Seeker`> jono: Can you beat popey anyway? | |
| <jono> I can try :P | |
| <DaveMorris> ahhhhh BSOD! | |
| <DaveMorris> "A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer." | |
| <mrben> surely by that logic, it should uninstall itself... | |
| <DaveMorris> and the "2 minute hate" moves onwards http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6289581.stm | |
| <DaveMorris> ok, its not quite 1984 | |
| <popey> jono pong | |
| <popey> hee, love saying that | |
| <jono> popey: do you run the screencasting team? | |
| <popey> yes, I do | |
| <jono> heh | |
| <popey> for a given definition of "run" | |
| <jono> you lead it | |
| <jono> cool :) | |
| <popey> why? | |
| <gurra72> how fast can you send files on irc?? | |
| <tsmithe> dcc is as fast as the upload on the sender, and the download on the sendee | |
| <popey> hehe "sendee" | |
| <tsmithe> with some latency probs between (network traffic). but that's negligible | |
| <popey> Is that a word? It is now! | |
| <popey> </smashie> | |
| <tsmithe> yup | |
| <gurra72> oh ok.. thanks :) | |
| <tsmithe> of course, there's also the problem of firewalls in between blocking outgoing/incoming traffic that may appear to be unsolicited. or just the ports may not be open | |
| <gurra72> ok.. but its faster than sending files on msn i suppose | |
| <popey> msn goes direct to AIUI | |
| <popey> probably very little in it | |
| <gurra72> ok | |
| <tsmithe> if i knew what aiui was i'd say something more productive | |
| <popey> As I Understand It | |
| <tsmithe> ahh | |
| <gurra72> can i save this room or channel..as a favorite somehow?? on gaim? | |
| <tsmithe> so nothing is going to aiui :P | |
| <tsmithe> gurra72, use a real client :P | |
| <popey> gurra72: i think you can make it auto join | |
| <tsmithe> !xchat | |
| <tsmithe> ftw | |
| <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB | |
| <gurra72> like xchattsmithe? | |
| <popey> !irssi | |
| <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface IRC client ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out ) | |
| <popey> ftw | |
| <GazzaK> shhh | |
| <gurra72> i tried that.. no favorites there either | |
| <popey> they arent called favorites gurra72 | |
| <gurra72> what are they called? | |
| <popey> there is a settins for the network screen where you can list chanells you want it to auto join | |
| <gurra72> ok | |
| <popey> look in the preferences for "auto join" | |
| <popey> you list them comma separated I think | |
| <gurra72> I will.. thanks for all help :) | |
| <popey> #ubuntu,#lugradio,#goats | |
| <popey> etc | |
| <GazzaK> goats? | |
| <tsmithe> so popey, why do you use irssi not xchat? | |
| <GazzaK> !1337 'cos he is so cool? | |
| <popey> because it lets me access irc from anywere using any device | |
| <popey> so long as I have ssh, I can irc | |
| <popey> e.g. from my pda or my mobile phone | |
| * mrben likewise | |
| <popey> and I have used it in that way | |
| <tsmithe-irssi> but whilst you are in a gui, why not use a gui? | |
| <popey> why should I? | |
| <popey> irssi is running in a screen | |
| <popey> so i ssh to the box were it is running and type "screen -rd" and I am in | |
| <tsmithe-irssi> it looks nice (to me at least) that's the only reason i use xchat :D | |
| <popey> carrying on as if I had never left | |
| <popey> looks arent everything | |
| <popey> functionality is key | |
| <tsmithe> indeed | |
| <GazzaK> looks are everything :p | |
| * GazzaK is vain | |
| <popey> i was stuck in telehouse once with no net connection, I got ssh running on my mobile phone and was on irssi getting support | |
| <tsmithe> but i run a bip proxy anyway... so i never do leave. | |
| <popey> that isnt enough though tsmithe | |
| <GazzaK> sadly | |
| <tsmithe> (though i cannot ssh to that i don't think) | |
| <tsmithe> popey, indeed :) | |
| <popey> i have also ssh'ed from my in-laws house when I am bored, using my pda and their wireless :) | |
| <tsmithe> :P that's rude :) | |
| <popey> I used to use xchat and a bouncer called muh, but I find screen+irssi+ssh is better for my needs | |
| <GazzaK> popey, you are such a geek | |
| <tsmithe> so what functionality does irssi have that's nice? 'cept for terminalness | |
| <popey> thats the main thing | |
| <tsmithe> ah k | |
| <popey> takes up less of the screen too | |
| * tsmithe usually has a term open anyway. | |
| <popey> the fact that it is terminal means I can access from anywhere | |
| <tsmithe> yes | |
| <popey> i.e. I am now at work | |
| <popey> on windows | |
| <tsmithe-irssi> thing is, it doesn't give notifications | |
| <popey> how do you mean? | |
| <popey> notifications of what? | |
| <popey> another nice thing is that I can be in many channels and the little channel indicator numbers are all on screen | |
| <popey> in xchat I would need to scroll to see everything | |
| <popey> or get a big ass screen | |
| <tsmithe-irssi> i mean, as in flashes on the channel | |
| <tsmithe> eh? | |
| <popey> it does here | |
| <popey> I get different colours when peope say my name or speak or whatever | |
| <tsmithe-irssi> i meant "panel". just cos it rhymes i pick the wrong one | |
| <tsmithe-irssi> and how do you get away with not scrolling? | |
| <popey> terminal + a small font | |
| <tsmithe> it would have to be really really small... | |
| <popey> no | |
| <popey> 8pt here | |
| <popey> i am talking about the channel list | |
| <tsmithe> ah | |
| <popey> this is only a 1024x768 screen | |
| <tsmithe> ok | |
| <tsmithe> "only" :D yeah i hate it too, but the most i have is wxga | |
| <popey> well at home I have 3360x1050 :) | |
| <popey> but on my phone it is considerably less :) | |
| <popey> and I am in 57 channels, so nice not to have to scroll | |
| <apokryphos> :O | |
| <popey> many are not active of course | |
| <popey> 24 at the last count | |
| <popey> 25 inc this one | |
| <tsmithe> 57 is one hell of a lot... though i could easily exceed the max (i must get that lifted...) | |
| <popey> 57 over 4 networks | |
| <tsmithe> oh | |
| <mrben> sheeeit | |
| <tsmithe> k | |
| <apokryphos> what other networks do people really use? | |
| <tsmithe> gimpnet | |
| <popey> i use the official LUG one :) | |
| <tsmithe> efnet | |
| <apokryphos> I tried being on oftc for some time but couldn't really justify being there other than for #fish | |
| <popey> irc.lug.org.uk :) | |
| * apokryphos thinks he has to go to a LUG some time | |
| <popey> wich is your nearest one apokryphos ? | |
| <apokryphos> I have no idea. Last time I tried to investigate for LUGs in London I went in circles a bit | |
| <popey> ahh, london | |
| <popey> GLLUG then | |
| <popey> there is also Lonix, but they are more of a social group, and there is a large overlap beween GLLUG and Lonix | |
| <apokryphos> cool, I'm looking into it now | |
| <tsmithe-irssi> how do i configure irssi, then? | |
| <apokryphos> hm, and they have a channel on Freenode | |
| <tsmithe> tsmithe-irssi, ping test | |
| <constrictor> has anyone had any luck syncing their calendar apps with google calendar | |
| <constrictor> ? | |
| <mrben> constrictor: apparently you can sync google to evolution, but not vice-versa | |
| <constrictor> yeah | |
| <mrben> constrictor: I read a thing that suggested doing it via a 3rd party-service | |
| <mrben> let me find the linky | |
| <popey> tsmithe: there are lots of good guides for irssi online | |
| <constrictor> i have the same problem with sunbird | |
| <mrben> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/12/18/sync-evolution-calendar-with-google-calendar/ | |
| <mrben> that might help ^^ | |
| <constrictor> thanks mrben | |
| <popey> tsmithe: http://www.irssi.org/documentation | |
| <tsmithe> oh cool | |
| <mrben> constrictor: np | |
| <mrben> constrictor: saw this in the comments too - http://gcaldaemon.sourceforge.net/ | |
| <mrben> constrictor: they've tested with sunbird | |
| <constrictor> brill | |
| <constrictor> :-D | |
| <Seeker`> apokryphos: wherabouts do you live? | |
| <apokryphos> Seeker`: Hammersmith, but in Elephant and Castle this year. | |
| <popey> h | |
| <mrben> Elephant and Castle - possibly the best tube-station name in the world. | |
| <popey> reminds me of one of my fave all time films where Ade Edmundson and Rik Mayall are taking a Japanese tourist around and teach him Cockney rhyming slang.. | |
| <popey> "Elephant and Castle... stick it up your arsehole!" | |
| <apokryphos> mrben: and yet one of the ugliest tube stations in the world, too. | |
| <apokryphos> popey: hah | |
| <popey> Mr Jolly Lives Next Door - is the name of the film | |
| <popey> i have a copy on vhs that I taped off channel 4 in 1988 | |
| <popey> its quite worn out | |
| <adb> Hi there. gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.british is an echo of ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com - can you post to it via NNTP (if you are not subscribed). | |
| <popey> doubt it | |
| <adb> I would suspect that - so avoiding wasting time trying. | |
| <adb> I belong to too many MLs and want to read some via news. | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <ady33> Hello? | |
| <constrictor> how do i add a script to init.d | |
| <constrictor> mrben i got the standalone gcaldaemon | |
| <constrictor> still trying to configure it though | |
| <constrictor> popey: would you know how to add a script to init.d or upstart or whatever launches stuff at start up? | |
| <mrben> constrictor: sorry - never done it myself.... | |
| <constrictor> right | |
| <constrictor> ok | |
| <popey> yes | |
| <popey> what do you want to launch? | |
| <constrictor> but how would you make a script launch on start up, i put it in my sessions applet | |
| <constrictor> well it's this gcaldaemon to sync my sunbird with google calendar | |
| <constrictor> it works really nicely by the way mrben thank you | |
| <mrben> no problem | |
| <mrben> glad to be of assistance | |
| <constrictor> now i want it to start when i log in | |
| <constrictor> is it enough to put it in sessions | |
| <popey> yes | |
| <popey> thats better IMO than init.d | |
| <constrictor> as the init.d thingy is being deprecated in edgy | |
| <constrictor> with the into of upstart and all | |
| <popey> not quite | |
| <popey> init.d is still there even in feisty | |
| <DaveMorris> are you meant to use upstart on servers as well then? | |
| <X3N> if you want to | |
| <popey> not sure you are "meant" to | |
| <X3N> it's replacing the init system | |
| * popey wonders if any other distros are taking upstart | |
| <X3N> probably once it's proven it's self | |
| <mrben> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6288119.stm | |
| <mrben> ^^ pimp your OS! | |
| * popey pimps | |
| <tsmithe> those people who say windows is easy, mac just works annoy me. it's easy because you know it, it just works because it is ferociously controlled | |
| <tsmithe> not that it is necessarily a better design! | |
| <mrben> agreed | |
| * tsmithe 's head explodes | |
| * popey notes NO linux comments yet | |
| <popey> well, on | |
| <popey> one even | |
| <tsmithe> one | |
| <mrben> yes | |
| <tsmithe> but he didn't say anything much | |
| <popey> about right given the penetration on the desktop is low | |
| <tsmithe> we should all make comments onit | |
| <tsmithe> *on it | |
| <popey> I already have | |
| * mrben too | |
| * tsmithe didn't - he was too angry | |
| <tsmithe> i'm doing one now | |
| <tsmithe> and i'll advertise my blog :P | |
| <popey> why be angry? | |
| <popey> you really wont get published if you do that | |
| <tsmithe> cos i'm ill | |
| <popey> they absolutely will not put links in comments | |
| <tsmithe> popey, i won't publish angry | |
| <tsmithe> it just annoys me | |
| <tsmithe> awh dang | |
| <tsmithe> ok | |
| <tsmithe> well i'll leave that out | |
| <DaveMorris> Peter Chaffe, crawley, west sussex, close to me | |
| <DaveMorris> someone even touted Amiga OS | |
| <mattl|ill> ugh, gotta stop using irc. it just annoys me. | |
| *** mattl|ill is now known as mattl | |
| <treb0r> is it irc or people in general? | |
| <GazzaK> yep, changing your nick will help :p | |
| <mrben> he's healed! | |
| <X3N> yay | |
| <X3N> is there anything #ubuntu-uk /can't/ help you with ? :) | |
| <DaveMorris> windows problems? | |
| <X3N> install ubuntu ! | |
| <mrben> lol | |
| <Seeker`> X3N: Girls problems | |
| <DaveMorris> sudo apt-get install sex-life | |
| <constrictor> what repo? | |
| <DaveMorris> cycle - calendar program for women | |
| <constrictor> lol | |
| <DaveMorris> thats in the repos | |
| <DaveMorris> purity-off - Sex related purity tests | |
| <DaveMorris> not sure what that package does | |
| <constrictor> i think audioscrobbler is really cool | |
| <constrictor> mrben, popey, having put a script in session, so that it starts when i log in, what if this script requires sudo to run | |
| <constrictor> how do i do that? | |
| <constrictor> do i put gksudo before the path to that script? | |
| <constrictor> so that i'm prompted for a password? | |
| <GazzaK> erm, does anyone know a number for BT which doesn't go to annoying menu systems? | |
| <popey> constrictor: probably best done using init.d then if it needs root | |
| <constrictor> ok | |
| <mrben> GazzaK: I'm not sure there is one | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, thats what I thought | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: try hammering a number that isn't an option for 30 seconds | |
| <Seeker`> '8' works well with orange | |
| <Seeker`> well, maybe not 30 seconds | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| <Seeker`> i tend to do it for 5 seconds, wait for a few | |
| <Seeker`> then repeat | |
| <popey> or press 0 or # | |
| <Seeker`> it tends to work - the system assumes you dont know how to use the system, so it dumps you out at a human | |
| <mrben> either that, or get yourself a pulsephone | |
| <mrben> the clickiness tends to work | |
| <GazzaK> I just spoke to a human, wooooo | |
| <GazzaK> 020 7356 5000 :-) | |
| <GazzaK> main head office number :-) | |
| <GazzaK> and a very nice man said I should get called back within four hours | |
| <constrictor> it's so annoying knowing a mac disciple | |
| <constrictor> what api does wordpress work on? | |
| <constrictor> I found that out it's on the movabletype engine | |
| <mrben> eh? | |
| <mrben> it's based on bblog | |
| <mrben> oopos - b2/cafelog | |
| <mrben> I'm not sure it has any relation to moveabletype | |
| <mrben> although I believe it's similar in some respects, as a lot of people moved from MT to WP when they changed the licensing | |
| <constrictor> i was trying to use the drivel journal thngy | |
| <constrictor> and it worked when i used the movabletype engine | |
| <mrben> drivel? | |
| <mrben> ah. I see what you mean | |
| <mrben> Wordpress is mostly compatible with MT | |
| <constrictor> yeah it worked | |
| <constrictor> the only problem is that i have two blogs and i can only configure it to work with one | |
| <constrictor> so i'm looking at other alternatives | |
| <mrben> did you see that WP 2.1 is out/ | |
| <mrben> ? | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> mrben, I noticed that this morning. | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> I am, however, extremely lazy, and are waiting for Dreamhosts to update their 1-click installs so I don't have to worry about breaking things ;) | |
| <constrictor> yeah i noticed | |
| <constrictor> they are releasing those versions much faster now aren't they | |
| <constrictor> can hardly keep up | |
| <constrictor> haven't updated yet though | |
| <constrictor> i'll download it and do it later | |
| <Seeker`> sheepeatingtaz: Would you reccomend Dreamhosts? | |
| <popey> what kind of hosting you looking for Seeker` ? | |
| <popey> just a website or a whole virtual server or wot? | |
| <treb0r> I like http://www.textdrive.com/ for hosting... | |
| <treb0r> they use freebsd, which works very well.. | |
| <daviey> Hey everyone, I'm in the market for a new laptop around £750. Any recommendations? | |
| <constrictor> what sort of spec do you want daviey | |
| <daviey> best per £ ;) | |
| <daviey> 17" monitor, lightweight good battery life | |
| <treb0r> my friend got an msi megabook ,and I want one. Only 12.1 screen but very nice http://msicomputer.co.uk/Products.aspx?product_id=703693&cat_id=390 | |
| <constrictor> personally i would go for a dell but then i prefer them smaller. my housemate has a fujitsu siemens and swears by it and he's got a 17" | |
| <daviey> treb0r, i'll look | |
| <daviey> "MSI recommends Windows® XP Professional" Oh well :( | |
| <popey> they all say that daviey | |
| <popey> ignore it | |
| <popey> www.novatech.co.uk do laptops with no OS | |
| <daviey> i was taking the peee | |
| <popey> as do ebuyer | |
| <popey> ahh, sorry | |
| <daviey> popey, yeah.. i live near novatech and seem impressed by one of theirs | |
| <popey> Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiits PAUL! | |
| <popey> *clap* *clap**clap**clap**clap**clap**clap**clap**clap**clap**clap**clap* | |
| <daviey> Paul has the CLAP? | |
| <VooDoo> greetings | |
| <treb0r> novatech looks interesting. Anybody bought a laptop from them? I'm in the market for a new soon, and I want it to be open as possible.. | |
| <popey> someone in my LUG did iirc | |
| <VooDoo> i've used desktop machines from there. | |
| <popey> i bought a motherboard bundle | |
| <popey> but not a whole pc | |
| <Seeker`> popey: Just somewhere i can shove files, use for email etc. | |
| <VooDoo> oi i don't have the clap ....just noticed that comment earlier. | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| <DaveMorris> how do I add a path to my path variable? | |
| <VooDoo> isnit in your .profile or whatever you have? | |
| <VooDoo> mine is in my .bash_profile | |
| * mrben returns | |
| <daviey> good! | |
| <daviey> treb0r, just noticed a 2% cashback if you buy your novatech machine through quidco.com | |
| <scotia> I want to use a network printer, and all seem well but cant find local host can anybody tell me where to get blow by blow instructions to set this up I am a complete newbie to ubunutu and struggling a bit | |
| <mrben> scotia: how is the printer networked? | |
| <mrben> does it have it's own interface, or is it connected to a print server of some sort? | |
| <VooDoo> for example my printer is connected to an wireless print server. | |
| <jamesbrose> Darn. I still havn't thought of a domain name.. | |
| <dsas> jamesbrose.com ? | |
| <dsas> jamesbrose.me.uk | |
| <jamesbrose> It has to be .co.uk, but jamesbrose.co.uk has been taken | |
| <scotia> mrben Connected to another computer via a ethernet | |
| <dsas> james.brose.co.uk or something similar? | |
| <mrben> scotia: windows machine? | |
| <dsas> hmm, I don't think I like the new g-c-c | |
| <VooDoo> jamesbrose: you after a domain name? | |
| <mrben> jamesbrose: webbroser.co.uk ? | |
| <jamesbrose> VooDoo, yeah | |
| <mrben> jimbroseplace.co.uk | |
| <dsas> Instead of going to system->admin->proxy I have to go system -> g-c-c *wait 5 seconds* -> proxy. | |
| <mrben> abrosebyanyothername.co.uk | |
| <jamesbrose> lol | |
| <dsas> mrben: heh, | |
| <scotia> mrben fedora core 5 | |
| <mrben> scotia: assuming that FC5 just shares it with CUPS, you should be able to use the Add Printer dialog | |
| <mrben> System -> Administration -> Printg | |
| <mrben> Printing* | |
| <mrben> New Printer | |
| <mrben> then select Network Printer, CUPS | |
| <mrben> and copy the IPP from the properties page on CUPS | |
| <mrben> s/URI/IPP/ | |
| <mrben> oops - other way round ;) | |
| <mrben> does the FC5 box give you details about the printer? | |
| <scotia> mrben I need to look at the FC5 set up as it looks like the printer is locked to it will be back when I try it out thanks for now | |
| <mrben> ok | |
| <mrben> yeah - it's possible that FC5 has not been set up to share the printer | |
| <mrben> should be fairly simple to set up, although I can't say I've done it on FC5 | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> Seeker`: sorry, got busy at work, and Yes, I would recommend dreamhosts wholeheartedly | |
| <tsmithe> dsas, i don't like g-c-c either | |
| <tsmithe> it's annoying and slow and cluttered | |
| <dsas> tsmithe: Yeah, I imagine it's faster if you're randomly browsing config settings. But if you know what you want to do it is slow. | |
| <tsmithe> indeed | |
| <Seeker`> sheepeatingtaz: not a problem :) | |
| * Seeker` may get a dreamhosts package when he has some money | |
| <apokryphos> dreamhost is awesome | |
| * jamesbrose just bought dreamhosts package :P | |
| <jamesbrose> Would installing gnome on a server affect its speed much? | |
| <dsas> jamesbrose: Only if it were being used. | |
| <jamesbrose> So how would I stop gnome + processes from starting a startup so i can just start them when I want.. | |
| <medders> 'noon | |
| <dsas> jamesbrose: Remove the relevant symlinks from /etc/rc2.d | |
| <jamesbrose> Ok, then to start? | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> Seeker`: (and anyone else looking at dreamhosts) http://forums.lugradio.org/viewtopic.php?p=30181#30181 | |
| * apokryphos kicks his router | |
| <apokryphos> jamesbrose: sorry, I would've missed that | |
| <jamesbrose> sorry? | |
| <apokryphos> (I would've missed any response) | |
| <jamesbrose> ic | |
| <jamesbrose> :] | |
| <apokryphos> so which package? | |
| <jamesbrose> well, gnome etc.. | |
| <jamesbrose> ubuntu-desktop | |
| <apokryphos> *dreamhost package | |
| <jamesbrose> woops | |
| <apokryphos> I thought dreamhost only have redhat and debian servers? | |
| <jamesbrose> erm the developer linux.. | |
| <jamesbrose> Thought you were talking about something else.. | |
| <dsas> tsmithe: <seb128> I'm not sure you can get the menu back with new panel | |
| <jamesbrose> dsas, how would I start the processes again? | |
| <tsmithe> dsas, when/where was that? | |
| <dsas> jamesbrose: run /etc/init.d/gdm start probably | |
| <tsmithe> and thanks - that's a shame | |
| <dsas> tsmithe: A few minutes ago in #gnome-hackers | |
| <tsmithe> ah k | |
| <dsas> jamesbrose: Never tried it myself | |
| <tsmithe> on gimpnet, right? | |
| <dsas> tsmithe: yup | |
| <Seeker`> hmm | |
| <Seeker`> dreamhosts says that cjo20.com is registered | |
| <Seeker`> but 123-reg.co.uk says it isnt | |
| <jamesbrose> I think they use ukreg to check... (dreamhost) | |
| <Seeker`> ukreg say it is avaliable too | |
| <scotia> mrben doing well I have no printer now, will have to leave it for now as I need food | |
| <Seeker`> how easy is it to cancel dreamhost? | |
| <jamesbrose> Just contact customer support.. | |
| <jamesbrose> Anybody know how to remove ubuntu-desktop and all its packages? | |
| <apokryphos> if you're on edgy (and even dapper perhaps), sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop | |
| <Seeker`> gah, i dont have a credit card | |
| <Seeker`> :'( | |
| <jamesbrose> solo? | |
| <jamesbrose> I paid with my solo card | |
| <Seeker`> i've only got a maestro | |
| <jamesbrose> sure you can't pay with that? | |
| <apokryphos> I'm sure you can pay with maestro | |
| <apokryphos> which is a debit, not a credit card :P | |
| <Seeker`> apokryphos: I just typed my details in, and it said it doesn't accept that type of card | |
| <jamesbrose> hmm | |
| <apokryphos> they might be looking for a credit card then | |
| <GazzaK> or at least a visa card | |
| <GazzaK> many places do not like maestro/solo cards | |
| <Seeker`> yeah | |
| * Seeker` will ask his girlfriend nicely | |
| <apokryphos> accepting visa debits and not taking maestros is silly (since maestro is basically mastercard debit), but hey | |
| <GazzaK> yep, but the charges are different I think | |
| <GazzaK> anyways, I'm off shopping, wish me luck, as I hate shopping | |
| <jamesbrose> who doesn't? :P | |
| <GazzaK> I have a list! (from the boyf) | |
| <GazzaK> it has things I have never heard of before | |
| <GazzaK> wtf is a paneer | |
| <GazzaK> garam masala? | |
| <jamesbrose> elgoog | |
| <GazzaK> anyways, this will take days! | |
| <GazzaK> I need a personal shopper for my tescos visit! | |
| <daviey> maestro is the new switch isn't it? | |
| <daviey> electron and solo many places won't take. But Maestro, everywhere takes!!!!! | |
| <popey> evening all | |
| <Seeker`> daviey: apparently not :P | |
| <Seeker`> evening popey | |
| <medders> popey: Hello | |
| <Seeker`> hometime :D:D | |
| <medders> an opinion if you may: http://www.webfaction.com/shared_hosting | |
| <medders> anyone? | |
| <popey> you want hosting in the USA? | |
| <popey> which specific plan were you looking at? | |
| <medders> I don't mind where it is as long as it's cheap really | |
| <medders> I was looking at the cheaper option | |
| <medders> options* | |
| <popey> so that's 51.4 quid a year | |
| <medders> All I'd really look for except for the basics are python and django support | |
| <popey> if you go for one year (to make comparisons easy) | |
| <medders> yup | |
| <popey> looks okay | |
| <popey> I dunno though, I don't look at these plans often | |
| <medders> what do you use? | |
| <popey> I have a vps with http://bitfolk.com/ | |
| <medders> i'd say a vps is a bit out of my payscale | |
| <medders> budget even | |
| <popey> sure, but you get a lot more for your money | |
| <popey> which you dont need | |
| <medders> yeah, most likely | |
| <medders> what do you use yours for? | |
| <dsas> dreamhost is one pimped often in these parts. I like site5 though. | |
| <medders> except the blog and such | |
| <medders> dsas: thanks, I'll have a look | |
| <popey> i use mine for hosting sites, irc bouncer, mail bouncer | |
| <medders> a mail bouncer? | |
| <Agent13> HI | |
| <popey> yes, i send my email through it | |
| <popey> rather than my ISP mail servers | |
| <medders> is it more secure? | |
| <medders> or are there other benefits I can't see :) | |
| <medders> thanks for the advice, I've got to eat now. | |
| <medders> speak later | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <popey> ttfn | |
| <Agent13> could someone help me my dongle wont work on ubuntu | |
| <Seeker`> heya | |
| <Seeker`> when i tried signing up for dreamhost earlier it seems to have created me an account on their account management stuff | |
| <Seeker`> but i ddin't get past the paying part :S | |
| <Seeker`> anyone got any ideas what i should do? | |
| <popey> email them? | |
| <popey> support@ | |
| <Seeker`> i've got in contact with them | |
| <Seeker`> as i didn't give them any valid payment details, i doubt they would be setting anythign up | |
| <jamesbrose> Oh no. My friend is seriously considering buying vista, what shall I do?! | |
| <Seeker`> jamesbrose: Shoot him. Its the only humane thing to do. | |
| <jamesbrose> He lives like 100 miles away :( | |
| <jamesbrose> I won't get him in time | |
| <mdke> talk to him | |
| <mdke> it's drastic, but might just work | |
| <Seeker`> w00t! | |
| <Seeker`> I have a server :D | |
| <mdke> Seeker`: welcome aboard | |
| <tito_linux> hi | |
| <jamesbrose> Wooo! Snow! | |
| <jamesbrose> Snow! Snow! Snow! Snow! Snow! Snow! | |
| <tito_linux> No way, where? | |
| <nlogax> Battle of the operating systems on BBC - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6288119.stm | |
| <nlogax> they're inviting comments from visitors about why they like their OS... Windows is giving us a hiding so far | |
| <tito_linux> I wrote. | |
| <Seeker`> jamesbrose: where? | |
| <jamesbrose> umm | |
| <jamesbrose> bury (manchester) | |
| <jamesbrose> !!! | |
| <jamesbrose> excited | |
| <nlogax> is this the first snow of the season? (am in NZ and have been all of the winter) | |
| <Seeker`> nlogax: yes, in England | |
| <Lloydie-t> I need a little help with tftp. I have installed it, but I am having a problem trying to upload files to it. can you help? | |
| <nlogax> Lloydie-t, have you created the file on the server first? | |
| <popey> he has gone :( | |
| <nlogax> normally to upload with TFTP you need to create the file locally on the server, then try to upload it from the client | |
| <nlogax> ah yes he has at that :-) | |
| <Seeker`> my incoming mail on dreamhost wont work :S | |
| <mdke> why not? | |
| <mdke> and, you mean ever? | |
| <Seeker`> i mean since it was set up earlier this evening | |
| <Seeker`> the website works | |
| <Seeker`> and i can send mail | |
| <Seeker`> The Postfix program | |
| <Seeker`> <coattes@spaceymail-mx1.g.dreamhost.com> (expanded from <chris@cjo20.net>): | |
| <Seeker`> unknown user: "coattes" | |
| <Seeker`> thats what i get when i try to send from hotmail | |
| <mdke> got the right address? the mx is pointing to the right place? | |
| <mdke> well, i guess the mx is. boh | |
| <Seeker`> its being set up by them | |
| <mdke> that's the mailbox you specified? | |
| <mdke> "chris" | |
| <Seeker`> yeah | |
| <mdke> hmm | |
| <Seeker`> it may be because it was only set up about 5 hours ago | |
| <popey> evening jono | |
| <mdke> Seeker`: could be I guess. my mailboxes always appear straight away | |
| <Seeker`> the domain was only set up earlier | |
| <Seeker`> so it may not have finished propogating yet | |
| <mdke> I'll send you one | |
| <Seeker`> although i havent had any problems accessing it | |
| <mdke> Seeker`: came back | |
| <Seeker`> hmm | |
| <Seeker`> i may give it until morning before i contact them | |
| <Seeker`> anything you think could be causing it? | |
| * mdke can't think of anything | |
| <mdke> mine works |