| <kishan_> cool | |
| <kishan_> thanks | |
| <kishan_> i got them back | |
| <cellofellow> :) | |
| <kishan_> it was it was so simple | |
| <kishan_> nice | |
| <kishan_> one more problem | |
| <kishan_> when i press quit which is on the panel | |
| <dosnlinux> any way to get the right ctrl+alt work the same as the left? | |
| <kishan_> it asking for panel quit | |
| <dosnlinux> right now only left ctrl+alt+arrow will let me switch work spaces | |
| <kishan_> sorry now on my panel there are no menu items | |
| <dosnlinux> right click on the panel and select add new item | |
| <kishan_> yes i did it | |
| <kishan_> but the problem with the quit icon is the same | |
| <kishan_> previously it used to ask for log out suspend hibernate | |
| <kishan_> now its asking quit panel | |
| <cellofellow> Hey there Jester45 | |
| <Draconicus> Hey, Xubuntu comes with gparted already installed, right? | |
| <cellofellow> only on the livecd | |
| <cellofellow> then it's automatically removed in the last section of the installation | |
| <Draconicus> Um.. | |
| <Draconicus> Well, I'm installing with the alternate CD. Is it on the CD repository? | |
| <Jester46> yes i thinkj | |
| <mesarpe> exit | |
| <mesarpe> hi, i installed xubuntu 7.04 alpha or beta release... i want to say... that it works really good... but I found some bugs :( | |
| <Jester45> well... its not done yet | |
| <Jester45> !bugs | |
| <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots | |
| <Jester45> please search for the bug b4 your file a report | |
| <mesarpe> ok | |
| <Jester45> yea cellow | |
| <mesarpe> exit | |
| <Jester45> i have a problem with dd ing a dvd into iso | |
| <Jester45> i have done this b4 many times but on this dvd after i copy 340mbish it just clicks | |
| <nbjayme> hello, anybody know of a navy simulator program that runs on Linux commercial and / or FOSS? | |
| <Jester45> nope | |
| <Jester45> try googling | |
| <nbjayme> thanks. i tried no desirable result yet. | |
| <cellofellow> how do I turn on swat? I tried /etc/init.d/swat but that doesn't exist. | |
| <cellofellow> and what's swats' port number? | |
| <Jester45> anyone here use azureus's irc bot? | |
| *** somerville32_ is now known as somerville32 | |
| *** somerville32_ is now known as somerville32 | |
| * bigfuzzyjesus_ pokes cellofellow | |
| *** bigfuzzyjesus_ is now known as bigfuzzyjesus | |
| * cellofellow isn't available right now | |
| <cellofellow> anybody know how to connect to the "Homes" samba share in LinNeighborhood? | |
| <cellofellow> I tried using my UNIX username and password. Do I have to set up a smbpasswd? | |
| <snook353> what is the java deb in synaptic called? | |
| <snook353> the runtime environment - firefox says i don't have it | |
| <cellofellow> sun-java5-jre | |
| <cellofellow> something like that | |
| <cellofellow> !java | |
| <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository | |
| <cellofellow> !find sun | |
| <ubotu> Found: libapache-mod-tsunami, libdatetime-event-sunrise-perl, libsundials-serial-dev, libsundials-serial-doc, libsundials-serial0 (and 12 others) | |
| <cellofellow> blegh | |
| <maxamillion> !info sun-java5 | |
| <ubotu> Package sun-java5 does not exist in any distro I know | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> You had it right the first time. | |
| <maxamillion> !info sun-java5-jre | |
| <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB | |
| <maxamillion> :) | |
| <snook353> i've got the binary , but not the source - i need the source repos too? | |
| <cellofellow> no source, it's a binary proprietary version of Java. | |
| *** nalioth_ is now known as nalioth | |
| <somerville32> cellofellow, Java is released under the GPL my friend :P | |
| <maxamillion> somerville32: 1.5 wasn't | |
| <cellofellow> Not the one in edgy though, right? | |
| <maxamillion> right | |
| <cellofellow> Feisty, on the other hand... | |
| <maxamillion> ;) | |
| <somerville32> Oh right right... people still use Edgy and Dapper, lol | |
| <cellofellow> that's the life of a dev, I guess. | |
| <cellofellow> using Alpha software is a way of life. | |
| <maxamillion> alpha software i can tollerate, what scares me is alpha compilers ;) | |
| <snook353> can i just wget this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/ ? | |
| <cellofellow> haha | |
| <snook353> ok | |
| <snook353> ? | |
| <cellofellow> yeah, but what's wrong with apt-get? | |
| <snook353> idk why it don't show up - i enabled the repos | |
| <cellofellow> apt-get update | |
| <snook353> k | |
| <maxamillion> aptitude ;) | |
| <cellofellow> you have to download the package lists | |
| <cellofellow> oh, yes | |
| <cellofellow> but apt-get is ok for update IMHO | |
| <maxamillion> don't intertwine the use of package managers ... bad things can happen ;) | |
| <maxamillion> atleast... they have to me in the past | |
| <cellofellow> the apt-cache is the same, and apt-get update and aptitude update work just fine. | |
| <cellofellow> I mean they work the same. | |
| <psykidellic> hi....i am trying to install xubuntu for the first time...i got this machine from my proff in school which was successfuly running debian before so I am sure that this machine works, but when I booth up and select to install (both VGA and non-VGA mode), the installation just stops after some time saying: 1 Analog Input Cannot display this video mode | |
| <cellofellow> so, why bother? | |
| <psykidellic> i have a 19 inch dell monitor.....what can be the problem? | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: apt-cache != apt-get | |
| <psykidellic> what can be the problem? | |
| <cellofellow> I know, but apt-get update updates the apt-cache, and so does aptitude | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: sounds like X is trying to display out of range ... could be because your graphics card supports some crazy hi resolution | |
| <cellofellow> yeah, don't do super high refresh rates or resolutions | |
| <psykidellic> max it supports 1280 X | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: yeah, but aptitude does more checking and i'm not sure if you update apt-get if aptitude gets all the info its supposed to | |
| <cellofellow> never run into any problems here, adam. | |
| <psykidellic> maxamillion and cellofellow: how do i change it? | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: right, but if you graphics card can push 1600x1200, then X probably runs at that ... | |
| <psykidellic> it was by deafult | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> The update is the same. It's just a list. | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: fair enough | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's during the install procedure that it does it's special dependency tracking. | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: ctrl+alt+f1 ... does that give you a command line login? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> *its | |
| <maxamillion> PuMpErNiCkLe: rgr | |
| <psykidellic> hold on | |
| <psykidellic> i will restart and check...the installation machine is right besie me | |
| <cellofellow> psykidellic: sorry, we've like 3 conversations running. | |
| <psykidellic> no problem | |
| <psykidellic> i can figure it out | |
| <psykidellic> there is an option | |
| <psykidellic> during installation | |
| <psykidellic> f4 that gives me VGA input | |
| <psykidellic> which resolution should i select? | |
| <cellofellow> like 1024x768 for now. | |
| <snook353> is this what i add to the apt list? | |
| <snook353> ttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java5/ | |
| <cellofellow> snook353: no | |
| <cellofellow> one sec... | |
| <somerville32> psykidellic, What version of Xubuntu are you running? | |
| <snook353> k | |
| <psykidellic> teh latest | |
| <psykidellic> downloaded yesterday | |
| <somerville32> There are two "latest" | |
| <psykidellic> 6.10 | |
| <somerville32> 6.06 and 6.10 | |
| <somerville32> Ah, ok. | |
| <psykidellic> edgy eft | |
| <cellofellow> snook353: have line like this: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse | |
| <psykidellic> okie, the VGA input shows: 1024 X 768 X 16, 24, 32 | |
| <cellofellow> without the updates bit | |
| <psykidellic> what is the third number? | |
| <cellofellow> wrong line, same idea | |
| <psykidellic> and which one should i choose? | |
| <cellofellow> psykidellic: the bit depth, how many bits per pixel for colors. | |
| <cellofellow> psykidellic: 24 should be fine | |
| <psykidellic> hmm..but ctrl+alt_f1 dosnt take me to command line installation | |
| <snook353> hmm, i already hav ethat one, cello | |
| <cellofellow> with the multiverse in there? | |
| <snook353> yeah | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: not installation .. login, but either way that's a bad thing | |
| <cellofellow> psykidellic: perhaps try the alt CD. | |
| <snook353> Oh, n/m not that cello | |
| <luckyone> hello? | |
| <psykidellic> hello | |
| <maxamillion> hi | |
| <luckyone> do you know how to debug issues with scanners? | |
| * cellofellow must be crazy. He's dd imaging a hard drive over smbfs from a laptop to his computer. | |
| <luckyone> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2033789#post2033789 | |
| <luckyone> I am having trouble getting my CX5400 to be recognized by xsane | |
| <luckyone> how do I downgrade xsane and xsane-common to dapper versions that worked perfectly? | |
| <cellofellow> um, | |
| <cellofellow> there has to be a way... | |
| <cellofellow> never tried that. | |
| <maxamillion> luckyone: no clue, but that doesn't seem entirely xubuntu specific so maybe someone in #ubuntu would be able to help :/ | |
| <psykidellic> maxamillon: still giving the same analog input error | |
| <luckyone> I think it is rather impossible to get any help in #ubuntu | |
| <cellofellow> sometimes even I go to ##linux | |
| <psykidellic> and when yo usaid alt CD | |
| <luckyone> plus, they often like to speak of gnome utils I don't have... | |
| <psykidellic> you meant alt and C and D? | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: no ... alternate installation compact disc | |
| <cellofellow> psykidellic: it's the alternate CD, with a the text-based Debian style installer. | |
| <psykidellic> aaah | |
| <psykidellic> shit.... | |
| <psykidellic> i will have to download it | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: www.xubuntu.org/get :) | |
| <cellofellow> :( | |
| <cellofellow> !language | |
| <maxamillion> !language | psykidellic | |
| * maxamillion slaps ubotu | |
| <cellofellow> overloaded ubotu I think | |
| <maxamillion> pay attention! | |
| <snook353> sleep! | |
| <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. | |
| <ubotu> psykidellic: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. | |
| <cellofellow> so far 350MB of 18.5GB of hard drive copied over the ethernet | |
| <maxamillion> cellofellow: slow and steady wins the race | |
| <cellofellow> yeah | |
| <cellofellow> this is my attempt at linux on that laptop I was talking about | |
| <psykidellic> sorry! | |
| <cellofellow> sory what? | |
| <cellofellow> that was offtopic, And I moved it the offtopic channel. was talking with maxamillion | |
| <somerville32> cellofellow, Instead of recommending people edit their sources.list file by hand, please point them to Applications > System > Software Sources | |
| <cellofellow> I've never used that tool. :( sorry. | |
| <psykidellic> sorry for the language...as ubotu told me! | |
| <cellofellow> ubotu is a bot | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <cellofellow> haha | |
| <psykidellic> hahahaha | |
| <psykidellic> i didnt know that :0 | |
| <psykidellic> first time in this room | |
| <cellofellow> !bot | |
| <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots | |
| <maxamillion> !all-knowing | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about all-knowing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <cellofellow> all knowing, he says, but look at this: | |
| <cellofellow> !anything | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <maxamillion> :) | |
| <maxamillion> !abuse | |
| <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | |
| <maxamillion> bah!... not what i thought i would get | |
| <maxamillion> !bot abuse | |
| <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot | |
| <maxamillion> :) | |
| <maxamillion> !bot snack | |
| <maxamillion> ? | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bot snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <psykidellic> maxmillion: i got into text mode...i was pressing the keys at wrong place :) while booting in text mode, its showing the error | |
| <psykidellic> buffer i/o error on device hdc, logical block 1 | |
| <cellofellow> hdc is a cd? or a hdd? | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: bad install or bad hard drice | |
| <maxamillion> drive* | |
| <maxamillion> !botsnack | |
| <ubotu> Yum! | |
| <maxamillion> :) | |
| <psykidellic> and then bam, it again went to analog inouyt problem | |
| <maxamillion> <3 | |
| <cellofellow> big problems | |
| <psykidellic> so hdc is what??? cd or hdd? | |
| <maxamillion> uber problems ... | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: depends on your system | |
| <psykidellic> hahahahaahhahahahahahahaha | |
| <cellofellow> mines a DVD drive, yours could be a Zip drive. who knows. | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: you might need to download the ultimate boot cd and run a DFT on that hard drive | |
| <psykidellic> but the professor was using this machine without any problem...okie..i have kubuntu....i will try that but i dont think it will help.... | |
| <maxamillion> nope | |
| <psykidellic> i hv no clue about ultimate boot cd and DFT :) sorry, from WIndows BG and previous knowledge of only RH which used to work fine.... | |
| <psykidellic> BG = background | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ <--- ultimate boot cd, the _best_ hardware diagnostics tools bandwidth can aquire | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: DFT == drive fitness test ... its an IBM tool offered on that cd | |
| <psykidellic> aaah | |
| <psykidellic> got it | |
| <psykidellic> downloading.... | |
| <maxamillion> :) | |
| <psykidellic> actually i didnt start download | |
| <psykidellic> i went to the page | |
| <psykidellic> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html - strange....there is no link to the iso image file! | |
| <maxamillion> close enough | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: yeah, they generally host them in compressed formats, you have to decompress to get the .iso | |
| <psykidellic> hmmm | |
| <psykidellic> why is that? its just more pain in the A! | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: costs them less in bandwidth ;) | |
| <maxamillion> psykidellic: bandwidth is expensive ... :/ | |
| <psykidellic> hmmmm | |
| <lebowski> psykidellic, why is a compressed format a pain in the A .. they are quick to download ... save you your valuable time | |
| <lebowski> I would prefer a compressed iso .. :) | |
| <cellofellow> all you have to do is gunzip said file | |
| <psykidellic> yeah, i guess you are right! | |
| <psykidellic> okie...ultimatecd installed | |
| <cellofellow> and max went to sleep | |
| <psykidellic> yeah saw that but i cant find drive fitness test anywhere..... | |
| <cellofellow> I don't know, sorry, I never used Ultimate Boot CD. | |
| <aktee> hello everyone! | |
| <aktee> just a quick question -- how can I remove Xubuntu's default application, without removing the package "Xubuntu-desktop" | |
| <aktee> it seems like when I try to remove GXINE -- it always try to remove xubuntu-desktop with it | |
| <psykidellic> how are you trying to remove it? | |
| <aktee> and I know that if I remove xubuntu desktop, well, it aint gonna work no more, (i tried yesterday when I tried the same thing, but with ubuntu. It removed ubuntu-desktop and LOL!!) | |
| <aktee> I tried by apt-get -remove, and I tried with synaptic | |
| <aktee> maybe there's some kind of special command so that it removes just the gxine, not the whole deal? | |
| <aktee> if this is not possible.. hmm.. | |
| <aktee> how about, really defining the default application of a file extension -- not with Thunar, but universally defining the default application (i'm having some problem with Opera that's why) | |
| <aktee> ? :(.. | |
| <Commander-Crowe> hi | |
| *** darren1 is now known as darrend | |
| <grumpymole> aktee: with regards to your question about removing xubuntu-desktop: | |
| <grumpymole> xubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package that tells what standard apps to install | |
| <aktee> so.. it's safe to remove? | |
| <grumpymole> removing it won't actually remove any of those apps. it sounds worse than it is. | |
| <aktee> PHEW :| | |
| <aktee> WOW last time I did it for ubuntu-desktop, It didn't boot anymore | |
| <aktee> LOL | |
| <grumpymole> it won't remove your actual desktop | |
| <aktee> must have done something wrong | |
| <aktee> cool thing ! | |
| <aktee> yesss. | |
| <aktee> I have another question.. hmm.. | |
| <grumpymole> ask | |
| <aktee> i know, using linux means that I should RTFM, but.. I'm not sure where to search this, in ubuntu, in xubuntu, in linux in general, in xfce, etc.. | |
| <aktee> hmm, I must have misconfigured my keyboard at the installation | |
| <aktee> because I ALT-CAR + 2 doesnt give me the "e-mail A" anymore | |
| <aktee> but when i configure it for 104 standard keyboard, it works | |
| <aktee> the thing is, I don't know how to put it default | |
| <grumpymole> don't know offhand, but someone else here might | |
| <grumpymole> so, you want to make 104 standard keyboard your default? | |
| <aktee> yeah, wait, i think i found it | |
| <aktee> it's probably concerning Xorg | |
| <aktee> (sorry kinda new to this.) | |
| <grumpymole> http://ubuntu.sabza.org/2006/10/13/xubuntu-easily-switch-keyboard-layout/ | |
| <grumpymole> might be interesting | |
| <aktee> yes, but that's for switching keyboard layout, while I only want 1. | |
| <aktee> oh look | |
| <aktee> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=322374 | |
| <aktee> :D | |
| <grumpymole> ah, ok | |
| <grumpymole> never had to change my keyboard layout before | |
| <aktee> hmm.. | |
| <aktee> hmm ... /etc/X11/xorg.conf that's supposed to show me something when I open it with Mousepad, right? | |
| <grumpymole> sure | |
| <aktee> oop, got it. I went too fast and typed Xorg.config hahahah my bad :) | |
| <grumpymole> aktee: you can blame your keyboard ;) | |
| <aktee> hmm.. doesn't work | |
| <aktee> it's already 104.. and layout is already CA | |
| <aktee> aw.. | |
| <aktee> o well, thanks for the help :D | |
| <grumpymole> aktee: what is the CAR in ALT_CAR + 2 | |
| <aktee> the Commercial A | |
| <aktee> hmm | |
| <aktee> you know, before gmail.com | |
| <grumpymole> ok | |
| <aktee> like, aktee"a"gmail.com | |
| <aktee> seems like my AltCar just doesnt work | |
| <grumpymole> with you now | |
| <aktee> can't do the wavy thing too. (dunno it's named) | |
| <grumpymole> tilde | |
| <aktee> exactly | |
| <aktee> =) | |
| <grumpymole> so you are pressing shift + 2 to get @? | |
| <grumpymole> or ALT key? | |
| <aktee> no, I can't do it at all lol | |
| <aktee> it's supposed to be ctrl+alt+2 | |
| <aktee> or Alt-CAR + 2 | |
| <aktee> but now it's neither of them | |
| <aktee> maybe it's because of Xgl | |
| <aktee> trouble came after xgl and beryl | |
| <aktee> those are two messy programs :) | |
| <grumpymole> i thought it might be related to the fact that xubuntu automatically installs with the right-hand alt key disabled | |
| <aktee> ? | |
| <aktee> wow | |
| <aktee> where? | |
| <aktee> :| maybe it's that | |
| <grumpymole> try the other alt key | |
| <aktee> hmm it's assigned to a hotkey for XGL | |
| <aktee> now that I think about it.. with the other ALT, it doesnt execute the hotkey | |
| <aktee> ... hmm.. | |
| <grumpymole> it can be fixed. just getting a link | |
| <grumpymole> http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/11/i-guess-i-should-have-little-more-faith.html | |
| <grumpymole> i thought the key on my old laptop was dying. turned out it was this. | |
| <aktee> oh you got a blog! | |
| <aktee> and a thinkpad! nice! | |
| <aktee> thinkpad, tough machine eh? | |
| <grumpymole> hence no beryl or other glitzy stuff | |
| <grumpymole> thinkpad is still rock solid | |
| <aktee> yeah. I had the same model - 600e. that thing has a long life | |
| <aktee> hey thanks for the links, damn, i gotta restart X but i can't right now, burning a dvd.. | |
| <aktee> so i'll chat a little hahaha | |
| <grumpymole> no probs. time to get some dinner. | |
| <grumpymole> ciao | |
| <aktee> ciao ! | |
| <KorN[CM]> is someone able to help me with samba, it's driving me crazy! | |
| <kalikiana> what is the problem? | |
| <KorN[CM]> um I cant get it to work ): | |
| <KorN[CM]> im a linux noob (using webmin) | |
| <KorN[CM]> I understand the basics | |
| <KorN[CM]> however, Im not sure on this: | |
| <KorN[CM]> my login account for ubuntu is : | |
| <KorN[CM]> schilds | |
| <KorN[CM]> do I need a different account for samba | |
| <KorN[CM]> or can use that one? | |
| <kalikiana> You mean the login you'd use to access your files form another machine? That has to be set seperately. | |
| <KorN[CM]> ok is that a samba user? | |
| <rexbinary> KorN[CM]: Have you been to Applications->System->Shared Folders ? | |
| <kalikiana> yes. it doesn't seem to be in /etc/smb.conf... | |
| <rexbinary> you can set it up pretty easy there | |
| <KorN[CM]> ok first off Im running server install of ubuntu | |
| <KorN[CM]> so therei s no application-system, etc etc. | |
| <KorN[CM]> im using webmin | |
| <KorN[CM]> however | |
| <rexbinary> ah ok, thought it was xubuntu desktop | |
| <KorN[CM]> ok | |
| <KorN[CM]> so, I need a seperate user setup as a samba user, right? | |
| <rexbinary> you don't have too, you just need a samba password for you username, do a smbpasswd -a username and then it will prompt for a password | |
| <rexbinary> s/you/your | |
| <kalikiana> that's the one i failed to remember :P | |
| <KorN[CM]> ooh let's seen now :) | |
| <KorN[CM]> ahah we're getting somewhere :) | |
| <Iphigenia> Hmmm..... | |
| <Iphigenia> bugger | |
| <grazie> What groups and privs are required to pick up atp-get updates? | |
| <TheSheep> grazie: you need to be root | |
| <grazie> yes of course. that not my problem | |
| <grazie> one user can get updates, another cannot. Both have admin privs | |
| <TheSheep> grazie: what's the message? | |
| <grazie> no message, just doesn't see any new updates | |
| <TheSheep> you mean that apt-get update has no effect? | |
| <grazie> yes | |
| <TheSheep> sudo apt-get update? | |
| <grazie> yes | |
| <TheSheep> well, apparently there were no updates ready | |
| <TheSheep> because the moment you use sudo, the both commands are run from the same user -- root | |
| <grazie> yes there are updates. one user see them, the other does not! | |
| <TheSheep> grazie: when one user gets the updates, the other one cannot get them second time -- they are there already | |
| <grazie> TheSheep, no I have downloaded the updates yet. They are still there waiiting to be downloaded. | |
| <grazie> s/have/haven't/ | |
| <TheSheep> 'apt-get update' updates the package database | |
| <grazie> user1 requests updates - nothing. user2 requests updates - 26 updates. Boith have admin privs! | |
| <TheSheep> grazie: explain "requests updates" | |
| <grazie> sudo apt-get updates | |
| <TheSheep> the index could have been updated in the mean time | |
| <TheSheep> grazie: when yuo use sudo, it's not "user one requests updates, user2 requests updates". It's "root requests updates, root requests updates". | |
| <grazie> I understand that. Which is why I don't understand why the updates are not seen by both users. | |
| <grazie> user2 has been trying to get updates for a while - nothing | |
| <grazie> user1 logs in - updates are there! | |
| <TheSheep> I'm as helpless as you are :) | |
| <TheSheep> or more | |
| <grazie> good - it's not just me then! | |
| <grazie> thanks for thinking about it | |
| <grazie> TheSheep, I think there must be a bug in the Update Manager. Just logged in as user2 and updates are now available! | |
| <grazie> TheSheep, I was actually using the Update Manager and not sudo apt-get updates | |
| <kalikiana> How do I reference a variable in a Makefile, assuming I used name=`value`? | |
| <TheSheep> $(name) | |
| <TheSheep> grazie: that's what I suspected, update manager probably works differently | |
| <TheSheep> grazie: are you sure it was running at all in both cases? | |
| <grazie> TheSheep, Definitely yes | |
| <kalikiana> TheSheep: that won't work inside a block it seems | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: what block? | |
| <kalikiana> block begins with: locale: i18n/*.po | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: btw, there is no `foo` in makefile | |
| <kalikiana> first line is: lang=`basename $< *.po` | |
| <TheSheep> use $(shell ...) | |
| <kalikiana> ? | |
| <TheSheep> ?? | |
| <kalikiana> what do you mean with $shell? | |
| <TheSheep> I mean you should use it | |
| <grazie> $(sh ...) | |
| <TheSheep> it's $(shell command) not $shell | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: eg. VER = $(shell date +"%d.%m.%y-%H.%M") | |
| <TheSheep> and it's "basename $< .po", not *.po | |
| <kalikiana> ok, variable seems to be okay. but "mkdir -p locale/$(lang)/LC_MESSAGES" still won't do | |
| <kalikiana> i know about basename, just a typo :P | |
| <kalikiana> (although it works even with *) | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: I'd use $(strip ...) instead of `basename`, much faster | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: there is also $(basename ...) | |
| <kalikiana> oh, didn't know that | |
| <TheSheep> info make | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: say, why don't you use dbus for invoking trackerd and thunar in catfish? | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: and can I steal the thumbnail code? | |
| <kalikiana> I wanted to have the choice between different backends, dbus is on ToDo for when I fixed some more important things | |
| <kalikiana> steal the code, sure :) | |
| <kalikiana> since I looked at your icon code anyway :P | |
| <kalikiana> damn, how do i get that variable in my Makefile? | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: ? | |
| <kalikiana> mkdir -p locale/$lang/LC_MESSAGES | |
| <kalikiana> it won't insert the variable lang there | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: it's $(lang), and do you have that variable defined in the makefile? | |
| <kalikiana> lang comes from lang=$(shell ...) | |
| <kalikiana> but $(lang) doesn't work either | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: works for me | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: does 'echo $(lang)' work? | |
| <kalikiana> no, echo prints a blank line | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: maybe you don't set the variable correctly? | |
| <kalikiana> you know how i set it, what may be incorrect about that? | |
| <TheSheep> kalikiana: what's exactly the '...' in $(shell ...) ? | |
| <kalikiana> lang=$(shell basename $<) | |
| <TheSheep> what are you trying to do? | |
| <TheSheep> this is nonsense | |
| <kalikiana> pseudocode: for any file i18n/*.po do mkdir -p locale/$file-without-ext/LC_MESSAGES | |
| <kalikiana> in other words: generating mo files | |
| <TheSheep> %.po: | |
| <TheSheep> <tab>install -d locale/$*/LC_MESSAGES | |
| <TheSheep> no, wait | |
| <TheSheep> ou want the .mo files? | |
| * TheSheep gives up | |
| <TheSheep> gotta go | |
| <kalikiana> thx anyway :P | |
| <kalikiana> ciao | |
| <jenda> Hello | |
| <jenda> folks around? :) | |
| <jenda> I need feedback from the relevant part of the community... ;) | |
| <jenda> http://diy.devubuntu.com/xubuntu.png | |
| <jenda> and what about the color of the mouse? | |
| <jenda> Someone's suggesting I make it lighter. | |
| <grazie> jenda, looks good to me. Where will it be used? | |
| <jenda> grazie: at expos, available to anyone who wants them, too. | |
| <jenda> $0.3 apiece ;) | |
| <grazie> so the scale is as it would be used? | |
| <jenda> nope :) | |
| <jenda> case badges: 2*3 cm | |
| <jenda> sorry about the scale - it's what the printer wants. | |
| <jenda> (and I don't do proprietary vectors) | |
| <grazie> the whiskers may be lost at that scale | |
| <jenda> probable. | |
| <jenda> Nothnig I can do about that, though :) | |
| <grazie> nice though | |
| <TuxCrafter> hi guys: what those this tool do ? perl /usr/share/system-tools-backends-2.0/scripts/SystemToolsBackends.pl | |
| <TuxCrafter> cat /usr/share/system-tools-backends-2.0/scripts/SystemToolsBackends.pl | |
| <TuxCrafter> it is eating 10 MB of my memory | |
| <TuxCrafter> system-tools-backends is that a critical tool for xubuntu? | |
| <SiLOX> I cant start X after I¨ve installed latest Nvidia driver :/ i get "no screen found" and "no devices detected" | |
| <biberao> hey | |
| <biberao> any solution for firefox crash? | |
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| <Maximilian1st> Hi all. | |
| <Maximilian1st> What can I do if a kernel option is not by default compiled in the standard xubuntu kernel? Can I recompile it somehow? | |
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| <TuxCrafter> hello | |
| <TuxCrafter> can some one help testing something | |
| <TuxCrafter> when I disable the icons on my desktop by not running xfdesktop (pkill xfdesktop) or via the settings menu | |
| <TuxCrafter> then when I restart | |
| <TuxCrafter> and start openoffice the gtk bindings are broken! | |
| <TuxCrafter> someone here? :-P | |
| <TuxCrafter> TheSheeo: ? :-P | |
| <TuxCrafter> TheSheep: ? | |
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| <TuxCrafter> ? | |
| <TuxCrafter> when I disable the icons on my desktop by not running xfdesktop (pkill xfdesktop) or via the settings menu and then when I restart the pc. and start then my openoffice gtk bindings are broken! | |
| <TuxCrafter> when I disable the icons on my desktop by not running xfdesktop (pkill xfdesktop) or via the settings menu and then when I restart the pc. and start then my openoffice gtk bindings are broken! If i then start xfdesktop and kill it again openoffice is fine. byt I have tho had loaded xfdesktop once :-S | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> hi | |
| <Commander-Crowe> hey all | |
| <surgy> hello | |
| <surgy> ubotwo nvidia | |
| <ubotwo> surgy: Error: "nvidia" is not a valid command. | |
| <LjL> !nvidia | |
| <ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | |
| <surgy> thank you | |
| <surgy> how do i tell what linux image i have? im running xubuntu 32bit | |
| <surgy> whould that fall under 2.6 K7 ? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> dunno maybe cat /proc/version ? | |
| <surgy> ok i got it | |
| <surgy> whould a Nvidia Ti4200 be in the nvidia legacy category? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> no idea | |
| <surgy> "Cannont mark nvidia-glx could not resolve dependecys" | |
| <surgy> im missing a repo arnt i? | |
| <surgy> what repo is nvidia-glx in? | |
| <LjL> surgy: restricted i suppose | |
| <surgy> seams like i have my restricted repos on and it still tells me the same message | |
| <surgy> i turned on my restricted modules as it says in the tutorial, and when i searched for nvidia, in synaptic package manager, it brings up "nvidia-glx" when i check it for installation, it says it has a dependency that cannot be resolved. | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> whats the dependancy? can you resolv it manually? | |
| <surgy> if i can resolve it manually i have no idea where to start, dependencys: nvidia-glx: | |
| <surgy> Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629 | |
| <surgy> Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>=1.12.1) but 1.11.4-0ubuntu1 is to be installed | |
| <surgy> Depends: libc6 (>=2.4-1) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed | |
| <surgy> Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>=2.12.0) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed | |
| <surgy> Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>=2.10.3) but 2.8.20-0ubuntu1 is to be installed | |
| <surgy> Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>=1.14.5) but 1.12.3-0ubuntu3 is to be installed | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> dependancy issues are nasty | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> so you have older versions of those libraries listed | |
| <surgy> umm? | |
| <surgy> was that a question? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> guess it was an observation | |
| <surgy> ok | |
| <surgy> becuase i dont know what i have to be honest | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> like libgtk2.0.0 version 2.12.0 is expected but 2.10.3 is to be installed | |
| <surgy> yeah, but how do i give it what it expects? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> not sure | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> you will have to give it a repo that contains the packegs it wants perhaps | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> maybe get synaptic to o an update | |
| <surgy> well i added the nvidia repo to /etc/apt/sources.list and i enabled the restricted repos in synaptic | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> and what version of Xubuntu are you running? breezy, dapper, edgy? | |
| <surgy> i whould guess edgy | |
| <surgy> i downloaded it august 06 | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> ok, now make sure you are getting stuff from the edgy repos, by inspecting sources.list | |
| <Commander-Crowe> no | |
| <Commander-Crowe> dapper | |
| <Commander-Crowe> he would have dapper | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> my guess would be to be able to use that package you may have to upgrade to edgy possibly, but check what the how-to lists as requirement | |
| <surgy> is there any place where i can copy/paste a new sources.list that will contain all the repos i will need for awhile? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> thats a bad idea | |
| <surgy> esc: whats the benifit of upgrading to edgy? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> you'll get your system out of sync | |
| <Commander-Crowe> hehe | |
| <Commander-Crowe> edgy isn't so buggie | |
| <surgy> yeah ill look at a changelog :) | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> well, i guess the benefit may be to be able to use that package you want | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> you'll have more recent versions of software | |
| <surgy> also a few questions: does edgy auto mount ntfs partitions by defualt? and will it do the same for external media such as my ipod? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> dunno, i usually mount stuff manually | |
| <Commander-Crowe> surgy, yes it will | |
| <surgy> becuase i backed up all my emus and my movies to my secondary windows hdd and now i will need to access those | |
| <surgy> kewl | |
| <Commander-Crowe> you would need to find a special driver to write to it though | |
| <surgy> ok time to find edgy | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> but then again this machine here is still on breezy :-) | |
| <Commander-Crowe> you can read and exicute it though | |
| *** gripir is now known as gripiR | |
| <surgy> commander-crowe: i plane on copy/paste the whole hdd to this one and then converting it to linux partition | |
| <Commander-Crowe> then you cool | |
| <Commander-Crowe> your | |
| <Commander-Crowe> you may need to install some packages from synaptic but thats really easy | |
| <surgy> so edgy is the latest huh? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> just make sure your copy has been successful, before you go deleting stuff | |
| <Commander-Crowe> latest stable | |
| <Commander-Crowe> right now I'm in 7.04 | |
| <surgy> i think im going kde this time though | |
| <surgy> looks like fiesty heard is the latest there | |
| <surgy> feisty fawn* | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> kde -> yuck | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> INMHO | |
| <surgy> lol | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> but thats just personal preference :-) | |
| <surgy> its all deb though right? | |
| <surgy> so commands will be the same | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> and i don't need a shiny gui, but a low-footprint | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> well | |
| <surgy> i like the shiny gui :) | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> hmmm, yes i used to myself, until i decided that since i'm doing everything from the command line anyway, all i really need is an xTerm, and a desktop pager | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> first KDE, then Gnome, then XFCE, now fluxbox | |
| <surgy> i plan on getting everything set up through the term and then forgetting about xterm until something breaks :) | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> as i said personal preference | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> just the thing is, i work on several different machines at home and at work, and so i like having a similar way of doing stuff wherever i go | |
| <surgy> yea that whould be nice | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> and the commands don't really vary across distros | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> well, apart from package management | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> stuff like gnu-utils is the same wherever you go, | |
| <surgy> first time i have ever gotten over 300 kbps (im on a bottom end dsl conenction) but right now im getting 398 kbps | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> what are you donwloading? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> edgy? | |
| <slow-motion> hallo | |
| <surgy> yeah edgy kde | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> you can just upgrade... | |
| <surgy> gut morgan | |
| <surgy> nah | |
| <surgy> fresh install | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> !upgrade | |
| <ubotwo> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes | |
| <kalikiana> Is there a panel plugin or something which checks for package updates available? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> if you have nothing to lose reinstall is a good option, in my experiance i've often foobared stuff with a dist-upgrade | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> though if you've spent hours configuring your system dist-upgrade may be the way | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> but thats just based on personal experiance | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> at the moment my home network is a mess anyway, cause i'm too busy spending time at work | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> surgy, let me know if edgy fixes your problems | |
| <surgy> yeah ill be right here untill it downloads | |
| <surgy> but its prolly inapropriate to stay here after the install because its kde and not xfce | |
| <surgy> esc: i have nothing to loose except what ive messed up :) | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> well, i guess its doubtful to get KDE related advice in this chan :-) | |
| <surgy> off topic here but any of you guys wolfenstein fans? | |
| <surgy> just wandering how my vid card will hold up to opengl on enemy teritory, it is a ti4200 world known for horrible ogl2.0 | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> no idea, never game :-( just own shoddy g-cards | |
| <surgy> lol | |
| <surgy> well pcsx runs good on gforce 2 :) just a hint | |
| <surgy> renders the entire psx in software fast and looks decent | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> i don't really have the time to game, fortunately :-) | |
| *** gripiR is now known as gripir | |
| <surgy> lol | |
| <surgy> yeah i could prolly do with less games, loos a few pounds and kick a few habbits, but it seams like y entire state is gripped in this blizzard, roads are 5 inches deep in ice almost everywhere, public schools have been closed for over a week | |
| <surgy> my* | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> heavy | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> whereabouts are you from? | |
| <surgy> oklahoma | |
| <surgy> you? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> germany | |
| <surgy> nice | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> we had the warmest winter since they started recording weather | |
| <surgy> dont guess your catching any of the aftermath of el nino there are you :) | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> yeah schools were shut early yesterday | |
| <surgy> becuase its warm? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> heavy storm, tore down trees | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> and other stuff | |
| <surgy> oh | |
| <surgy> that sucks | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> i was gonna take my kite out, but i bust it during the last one :-) | |
| <surgy> i like kites too, havnt had a chance to fly one since i was a kid | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> found the word, we had a hurricane | |
| <surgy> oh lol | |
| <surgy> we dont get those here | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> but blizzards instead | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> :-) | |
| <surgy> only three natural disasters here are blizzards, droughts and tornadoes | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> yeah i own a revolution - shockwave... and i crashed it a bit to heavy last weekend, so the leading edge just snapped | |
| <surgy> im sure our snow storms are nothing compared to germanys | |
| <surgy> sucks | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> prolly not, we don't usually have many natural disasters here | |
| <surgy> i figures since your so much further north it whould be like 20-30 degrees cooler year round | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> maybe a few floods in the rivers and the occasional hurricane, but flooded rivers are probably the worst | |
| <surgy> this is the worst winter sense 92 in oklahoma | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> actually temperatures have become surprisingly mild over the last few years | |
| <surgy> and its 27 degrees F outside | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> what that in celsius? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> i don't know farenheit | |
| <surgy> umm let me look it up :) | |
| <surgy> 27 f is -2.77777777777777777777777777777777777777 C | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> google es | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> thats not cold at all | |
| <surgy> lol thats what i thought :) | |
| <surgy> your winters are alot worse | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> well, nothing is ever covered in snow for too long | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> and the schools very rarely shut, maybe once every 3 years for a cpl of days | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> amazing, a blizzard in oklahoma | |
| <surgy> lol | |
| <surgy> yeah like i said first one sense 92 | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> btw. you do realise you can sell your snow on ebay | |
| <surgy> so you can imagine that our cities werent ready for it, we had to contract snow plows and dip into our emergency funds | |
| <surgy> really? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> i saw a TV show bout it the other day | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> its for real | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> sell it to places that haven't got any | |
| <surgy> lol | |
| <surgy> so by warmest winter on record how warm is that? | |
| <surgy> like 33 C ? | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> bout 10 deg C | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> on average | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> average temp usually is 1.5 deg C | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> close to freezing | |
| <surgy> 10 C is 50 F and our winters are usually around that | |
| <surgy> our summers are usually 100 F thats 37.77 C | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> so pretty mild and temperate here | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> thats HOT | |
| <surgy> nah | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> well for me it would be anyway | |
| <surgy> every other summer it gets around 104 F 40 C | |
| <surgy> good swimming, lake weather | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> yeah, bigtime | |
| <surgy> whats the hottest temp there? do you know? and what part of germany (thats a big place) | |
| <esc_on_lucidrine> mars attacks, i'm off to watch telly, nice to meet you surgy | |
| <surgy> you too | |
| <surgy> seeya | |
| <Ma> HI | |
| <Ma> My sound volume is too low, it's barely heareable. Does anyone know what I should do? | |
| <Ma> please? | |
| <waky> alsamixer on console? | |
| <Ma> ? | |
| <kalikiana> Ma: there is a panel plugin for volume | |
| <Ma> where? | |
| <kalikiana> right-click the panel and select 'add item' | |
| <kalikiana> it's called volume or similar | |
| <Ma> ok, thanks, that helped | |
| <AmaranthineNight> Hello. | |
| <somerville32> Hi :) | |
| <AmaranthineNight> How are you? | |
| <fxr> hi, does default xubuntu install have a built in ftp client or do i have to install one seperately? | |
| <somerville32> AmaranthineNight, I'm great, thanks :) | |
| <somerville32> fxr: You might have to install a graphical one | |
| <somerville32> There is a text-based one installed already | |
| <kalikiana> fxr: if so, then look in the menu 'network' ;) | |
| <kalikiana> if not, gFTP might be good | |
| <fxr> ahh right, yeah, i prefer a gui, thanks for the nudge ppl | |
| <mesarpe> hi, i installed xubuntu for powerpc and I got a problem.. the user created during instalation doesnt exist... so I created manually.. My problem is I dont know how to use configuration I always get: you dont have permissions (even when I put root password) | |
| <slow-motion> n8 | |
| <enaut> but now again will i be able to have a trial boot system (Linux32|Linux64|Windows) with the Homepartition shared? | |
| <enaut> is here anyone who tried already a configuration like that? | |
| <g333k_work> hi, how to upgrade from xubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 safetely? | |
| <somerville32> g333k_work, see: http://xubuntu.org/get :) | |
| <`r0x`> hi | |
| <somerville32> Hiya! :) | |
| <enaut> hi | |
| <snook353> !java | |
| <ubotwo> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository | |
| <snook353> !multiverse repository | |
| <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ | |
| <snook353> !Multiverse repository | |
| <psykidellic> hello...i am installing xubuntu and it just gets stuck at 85% everytime.... | |
| <psykidellic> what might be the issue? I am using alternate install cd and installing in text mode... | |
| *** esc_on_lucidrine is now known as esc | |
| <snook353> the terminal says "The following packages have been kept back: | |
| <snook353> linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386" | |
| <snook353> should i upgrade with xubuntu? | |
| <hyper_ch> psykidellic: are you still here? | |
| <snook353> n/m | |
| <swhalen> Hello | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> yo | |
| <swhalen> i just installed xubuntu on a Friend's old laptop | |
| <swhalen> only problem is that it was sans-Ethernet | |
| <swhalen> so i thew in a linksys WPC54GS | |
| <swhalen> does anyone know how to install/cofig it | |
| <swhalen> ? | |
| <hyper_ch> !linksys | |
| <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ | |
| <swhalen> !linksys | |
| <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/LinksysWPC54GS-UK | |
| <swhalen> how do i configure the network after install? | |
| <swhalen> i dont see a GUI? | |
| <swhalen> Will this work with the US ed? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> US ed? | |
| <kalikiana> swhalen: sudo network-admin | |
| <swhalen> the laptop dosnt have net access | |
| <swhalen> where can a download these packages to put on cd? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkLe> packages.ubuntu.com |
