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<alefteris> hi everyone! could someone please check to see if this bug applies to your language too (Cyrillic, arabic alphabet)?

<alefteris> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-spell/+bug/10713

<MehdiHassanpour> hi :)

<MehdiHassanpour> I'm looking for a 460x60 banner for ubuntu

<MehdiHassanpour> for website advertising

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<jenda> hmm

<dsquare> what is loco?

<Nafallo> Local Community Team

<atoponce> dsquare: in virginia?

<atoponce> dsquare: if so, i can help you get a team started there, if you want

<Nafallo> gaah! I need this weekend when I read "in virgins?"

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<beuno> anyone here related to translation teams?

<mdke> beuno: probably lots

<beuno> mdke, there's a specific problem with the spanish translation team

<beuno> there are TONS of ppl wainting in line for months now

<beuno> to get approved or disaproved

<beuno> and no one seems to be around to even evaluate them

<mdke> beuno: I see. Have you contacted the team administrators?

<beuno> not directly, but there are over a dozen complaints on the mailing list

<beuno> and no one has answered

<beuno> so I wanted to know how I should proceed

<beuno> if try to contact the admin directly, or someone else

<beuno> it seems he's not reading the mailing list or the launchpad notifications

<mdke> first of all try to contact the admin directly

<mdke> admin(s)

<mdke> and then discuss it with the Spanish locoteam contact

<beuno> ok, will do then, thanks for the guidance

<mdke> after that, mail the translators mailing list, if you are still having problems

<beuno> the translators mailing list is where the problem is

<beuno> a lot of ppl have been sending messages there that they've been waiting for months without answer

<mdke> I mean the international translators mailing list

<beuno> and no one has answered at all

<beuno> oh, ok, sorry, go it

<mdke> good luck

<beuno> thanks :)

<JanC> beuno: until very recently it was almost impossible to evaluate candidate translator, except for people who already do translations for upstream or other distros

<beuno> JanC, while until "very recently"? something has changed?

<mdke> JanC: nonsense, it was perfectly possible

<JanC> beuno: it's easier to see what people did on launchpad/rosetta now

<mdke> obviously there have been improvements

<JanC> mdke: if you didn't use rosetta it was possible, but that was a real problem for most candidates :)

<mdke> JanC: it hasn't been a significant problem for ubuntu-it

<mdke> in this case it's obviously bad team management

<beuno> maybe they're overwhelmed, I just wanted to point out the problem so, if needed, we can help

<mdke> especially since there have been complaints which haven't been answered

<JanC> well, for 'nl' we require people to mail the mailing list...

<beuno> JanC, everyone did email the mailing list

<JanC> but that's explained on the translation team page on launchapd

<dsquare> im not virginia im Vancouver

<dsquare> but thats a cool idea

<dsquare> that is BC Canad

<dsquare> a

<JanC> beuno: if they mailed the mailing list and followed all procedures, but got no response, then something is wrong maybe :)

<beuno> ;)

<JanC> to start with: are the translation team admins still around?

<beuno> and personally, I have done everything, have activity in launchpad (and everywhere else), and got no answer

<JanC> if they have complaints about your Spanish, they shouldat least have said so :)

<beuno> then I saw complaints started to pile up

<beuno> and no aswers...

<beuno> *answer

<JanC> did you try contacting the group admins directly?

<beuno> I did that just now

<beuno> I guess it grew too fast and they couldn't keep up

<beuno> it happens

<beuno> it's just a lot of ppl started complaining (I manage the Argentina LoCo, so I got a lot of feedback from there)

<beuno> and it just frustrates some users to see it completely stalled

<JanC> well, we have a lot of requests only through launchpad, even if we tell them on launchpad that they should (also) mail the list

<JanC> but it seams like you mailed the list already etc. :)

<beuno> ;D

<beuno> hmmm... I just saw something wierd...

<JanC> anyway, I hope I can motivate the Dutch translators, myself included, to start working a bit more on translations again for the feisty release...

<beuno> there is no activity from september on til now, except 2 approved members, one 10 days ago

<beuno> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-es/+members

<JanC> because edgy translations were all lost by a rosetta bug :-(

<beuno> JanC, really????

<beuno> I didn't now that...

<JanC> well, not all, but some really visible ones were reverted to the warty or hoary ones for some strange reason

<JanC> e.g. the GNOME panels & menus

<beuno> just for Dutch, or all languages?

<JanC> for several languages

<beuno> :/ that must of been very discouraging

<JanC> but it should have been fixed some weeks ago now

<JanC> so I need to take some time to fix this again and see if stays fixed

<beuno> JanC, you develope launchpad/Rosetta?

<JanC> no

<JanC> I mean, fix the translations again

<JanC> so that there is not the spelling error from the warty/hoary times anymore

<beuno> I see

<beuno> and feisty translations will be available...when?

<JanC> hm, I'm not sure, should be listed on some calendar somewhere :)

<mdke> around the end of this month

<beuno> great, I'll schedule it to get LoCo members working on that asap

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<mdke> mitsuhiko: are you here? got another frozenwiki traceback for you :)

<mdke> mitsuhiko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2183/

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