<merlin-linux> hiho all
<Changlinn> Afternoon all
<Tatey> hi :)
<Changlinn> the open day yesterday rocked...
<Tatey> nice :)
<Changlinn> was good to see people out in-force...
<merlin-linux> afternoon Tatey n Changlinn and all
<Cyvros> Howdy, merlin-linux.
<Tatey> hi merlin-linux, how are you mate?
<Tatey> and Cyvros
<Cyvros> Hiya, Tatey.
* Cyvros swivels around in his swivel chair.
<merlin-linux> Tatey: i am great the swordfish album came in today
<merlin-linux> so i playing that atm :-)
<Changlinn> hey merlin-linux
<Changlinn> lca was cool
<Tatey> merlin-linux: nice... always good when you get what you want :)
<Changlinn> met jono bacon....
<Changlinn> hey elkbuntu, you still at lca?
<Cyvros> Hiya, Changlinn.
<Changlinn> hi Cyvros
<merlin-linux> i want one of these >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kira0030/362106606/
<Changlinn> yeah I saw that... but I had no swippy card :(
<Cyvros> Hehehe.
<Changlinn> got to play with the one-laptop-per-child laptop, they are awesome
<Cyvros> Changlinn: You buying one?
<merlin-linux> i think it a kewl way to keep your beer safe
<merlin-linux> i thinking of buying a OLPC
<elkbuntu> Changlinn, yeah
<Changlinn> Yeah I would buy one, but aren't they min 10,000 lot orders?
<Changlinn> elkbuntu: hows it going?
* Changlinn someone needs to update the topic... 8th jan?
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<merlin-linux> now this is just some crazy stuff >>> http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/30/defcon2006_janus_project/
<merlin-linux> not crazy, just pure mind blowing
<Cyvros> Oh.
<Cyvros> Whoa.
<merlin-linux> here is the original site i got the story from >>> http://www.mini-itx.com/2006/08/31/the-janus-project
<Cyvros> Nice.
<merlin-linux> yeah
<Cyvros> Ubuntu-powered, too.
<Cyvros> It's watertight.
* Hit3k says it the way bender does
<Hit3k> NO
<Cyvros> Why?
<Hit3k> I dunno i just felt like saying o
<Hit3k> no*
<Cyvros> Ah.
<Hit3k> so.. whats up
<siccness> People are such idiots on our roads
<Hit3k> yeah especially when its raining
<siccness> seriously, who the hell drag races when 2 lane merges to 1
<siccness> bunch of tools :|
<Hit3k> hahahaha
<Hit3k> where was this?
<siccness> high st rd
<Cyvros> LOL.
<Cyvros> What, in Glen Waverley?
<Hit3k> lucky i didnt walk to block buster then
<siccness> Close
<siccness> Corner of Stud Rd and High St Rd
<Cyvros> Ah.
<siccness> mind you one of the cars was hella quick
<Cyvros> Get run over?
* Cyvros is being optimistic.
<Cyvros> :D
<siccness> i was behind them :P
<siccness> one of the em lost a chunk of rubber, passenger rear tyre
<Cyvros> God.
<Cyvros> <_<
<Tatey> http://xkiosk.net/open_source/index.php <-- how cool is this?
<Tatey> I've been looking at sourceforge, and there are some *really* interesting projects
<Tatey> I'm completely overwhelmed by the amount of FOSS POS application suites that are fully featured
<siccness> Pretty cool, cricket time for me.
<siccness> bbl
<Hit3k> Tatey, there are I like to look through them when im bored and download the interesting sounding ones
<Hit3k> ohh
<Hit3k> whos batting? or havnt they started yet :S
* Cyvros BBLs.
* Hit3k also bbls
<siccness> England just get worse and worse :|
<Cyvros> siccness: LOL.
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<gunny01> can anyone point me to a ubuntu friendly pc shop in adelaide?
<Changlinn> someone from sa should be in tomorrow that could help
<quail> gunny01: i not sure there is any in adelaide
<quail> gunny01: look here >>> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/marketplace/oceania#head-905513fdc7708b1a893cb45b007996ff7f3a0a44 <<< I know it for Retailers who Provide Certified Pre-installed Ubuntu Laptops, you you may find help off the list
<merlin-linux> i want to get a nice high gain omni directional for my AP
<Changlinn> freenet antennas have them pretty cheap
<Daemon> or you can build a waveguide antenna fairly cheaply
<Changlinn> omni though you don't want a waveguide
<siccness> bowl shane
<siccness> marvellous catch!
<Daemon> waveguide can be omni (in fact they work best)
<Changlinn> you can try and build an omni-whip, but they are hard to get working, mine worked for a while then seemed to stop for no apparent reason
<Daemon> http://www.freenet-antennas.com/v-web/portal/73/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1
<merlin-linux> i want to annoy the AP that is close to me
<Changlinn> heh
<siccness> 5.8mm of rain in Adelaide since 9am
<merlin-linux> siccness: yeah
<siccness> not bad
<merlin-linux> it been a nice steady lot of rain
<siccness> still another 5mil will be nuce
<siccness> nice*
<merlin-linux> it ment to be raining here till monday
<siccness> we got thunderstorms brewin up
<merlin-linux> and if stays steady like today
<Daemon> http://wireless.gumph.org/articles/homemadeomni.html <- another very easy omni
<Changlinn> yeah thats the one I made, it worked pretty well to start with
<merlin-linux> hi romana
<romana> evening:)
<gunny01> why have omni when you can have 13 cantennas? and a bucketful of tasty snacks to boot!
<Daemon> 802.11n with MIMO > multiple antennas for b/g
<MatthewV> grrr! net connection seems to be having trouble with dns lookups
<MatthewV> across the network
<Phlosten> good evening all
<MatthewV> evenin' Phlosten
<Changlinn> evening
<siccness> kfc sucks :\
<merlin-linux> siccness: you have kfc for suppa?
<siccness> yup
<merlin-linux> haha suxorz
<Changlinn> yumm salmonela chicken
<siccness> friday night, couldnt be bothered cooking
<siccness> so figured wed go takeaway
<siccness> some dumbass family member suggested kfc :\
<Cyvros> siccness: LOL.l I like KFC. What's wrong with KFC/
<Cyvros> ?*
<siccness> The question should be: What's right about KFC?
<MatthewV> anyone else having dns issues?
<hysterio> MatthewV: what problem you having?
<MatthewV> hysterio, i dont know... most web pages cant be looked up, sometimes some will get through
<MatthewV> i'm htinking isp problem
<hysterio> what dns server you using?
<MatthewV> hysterio, its set auto i think.. just a mo' - its happening on every comptuer on the network
<Cyvros> siccness: Hehehe.
<Cyvros> siccness: I like their chip seasoning.
<hysterio> optus ubuntu file mirror seems to be grinding atm
<hysterio> and no sooner do I whinge than it speeds back up again
<MistaED2> exetel seems glitchy today for me again, going through the infamous optus backbone
<MatthewV> hysterio, whinging isn't fixing anything for me !!! ;)
<hysterio> MistaED2: yeah i keep getting bit by that at work
<MistaED2> MatthewV: optusnet too?
<MistaED2> seriously, the net has been extremely unstable for me for this week
<MistaED2> constant dropouts
<MatthewV> MistaED, no... its southern cross telco.. i imagine that they using some other provider but i dont know what
<Cyvros> What the hell? The GIMP has a template for toilet paper.
* merlin-linux recommends you all churn over to internode :-P
<Cyvros> This is very concerning.
<hysterio> MistaED2: im sending stuff accross optus to exetel fine atm
<MistaED2> hysterio: very lucky
<hysterio> MistaED2: but I have been bit by it before
<MatthewV> hey. if my modem cant ping primary dns server, can i just set the dns on my pc instead?
<MatthewV> !!! going to restart modem.. probably wont be back for a while
<siccness> Does anyone know what this means: "Build an Internet Infrastructure?"
<hysterio> siccness: wrt what?
<siccness> It's on my TAFE class list. We're supposed to Build an Internet Infrastructure, I don't quite understand how you build it :|
<Cyvros> BBL
<hysterio> cya Cyvros
<hysterio> siccness: i didnt know you can have a singular form of an internet infrastructure
<siccness> beats me man, there's a few on this list that make little sense
<hysterio> it probably involves installing windows 2000
<siccness> Heh
<siccness> Probably involves something like DNS
<siccness> and 'ping' :|
<hysterio> http://www.education.vic.gov.au/tafecourses/search/Courses/Detail.asp?ID=21926
<hysterio> Plan and design an internet to meet business requirements
<hysterio> you have to make sure you specify enough tubes, cause its not like a trucl
<hysterio> tuck
<hysterio> *truck
<merlin-linux> hysterio: damn you should see the errors on that url
<hysterio> huh?
<siccness> hysterio: sounds like system administration
<MistaED2> is that a winders or leenucks course?
<hysterio> Manage and support the internet.
<siccness> MistaED2: Not sure on that one, but my course at TAFE is both Linux and Windows.
<hysterio> they should really add an 's' to all of them... Manage and support the internets.
<siccness> (and Novell)
<hysterio> siccness: same as when i did it (all those years ago)
<siccness> Such a shitty course.
<hysterio> yeah
<siccness> For the first 6 months of Linux, it was how to type: "cd" "chmod"
<merlin-linux> hysterio: look here >>> http://southernvaleslug.org/img/URL-Screenshot.png
<hysterio> merlin-linux: lol
<siccness> The second 6 months were, how to install software, compile the linux kernel and use administration tools (including log files)
<MistaED2> what a fail
<hysterio> you did kernel compiles?
<siccness> For a 3hr session
<hysterio> merlin-linux: they fail at providing an internet infrastructure
<siccness> hahaaha
<merlin-linux> hehe
<MistaED2> learn by example ;)
<siccness> 4 people out of 16 successfully passed Linux last year
<siccness> About 3 of those only JUST passed.
<hysterio> siccness: WTF?
<siccness> the other bloke is a champion, his name is siccness.
<MistaED2> "where's the next button??///"
<hysterio> i see the standard hasnt risen at all.
<siccness> hysterio: it'll get worse next year
<siccness> when people decide to learn what an IP is
<hysterio> i thought when i went to uni that the standard would be higher.. for the most part it wasnt
<siccness> no one in my class seems to care
<siccness> they just think the piece of paper at the end of it will get em a job
<hysterio> yeah, they go there for the diploma/degree, not to learn the content
<hysterio> grr another wicket
<siccness> not looking good
<hysterio> cam white in next
<siccness> thing is
<siccness> do you want him to come out blazin
<siccness> or come out and pace himself
<siccness> and go out for 5?
<hysterio> blazing, cause its pretty boring atm
<siccness> gilly should be disappointed with himself
<siccness> for that appauling shot
<hysterio> overconfidence
<siccness> yup
<siccness> hodge is a joke
<hysterio> yeah
<siccness> everytime hes given an oppurtunity
<siccness> he screws himself over
<Changlinn> siccness: you doing tafe network admin diploma?
<siccness> Close
<siccness> Network Engineering Diploma
<siccness> Which no longer exists at Swinburne, it's now a double diploma network admin/sys admin
<hysterio> siccness: whats the difference?
<siccness> hysterio: Beats me. :)
<siccness> Might be the same :)
<siccness> My course we learn useless shit like: MS Office, VB Programming
<hysterio> hasnt changed since i did it then...
<hysterio> except it wasnt VB, it was basic
<hysterio> qbasic
<siccness> We do PHP/SQL and BASH this year
<siccness> Which I'm not looking forward to, because it'll be stupid shit like echo "Hello World!"
<siccness> and reading from the simplest of databases
<hysterio> siccness: you gonna go on to uni or ??/
<siccness> I expected a challenge, how wrong I was.
<siccness> hysterio: I'm thinking yes.
<siccness> If I get a job offer at the end of this year
<siccness> ill take the job
<siccness> then ill make them pay for courses/certs
<hysterio> good luck ;)
<siccness> Thanks :)
<siccness> if im not offered a job
<siccness> then vicroads still want me
<siccness> for the i.t department (kew)
<hysterio> cool
<erland1> Hello...
<siccness> hey
<erland1> Hi, I looking for a bit of advice... I have very slow internet and want to install inkscape in 6.10 from the Kubuntu 6.10 CD, rather than download it. Can I do this?
<siccness> Is inskape on the CD?
<siccness> along with it's dependancies?
<erland1> Yes, I ran the Kubuntu live CD and you can use inkscape from that...
<siccness> Ok. I'm not entirely sure on the /preferred/ method of installing it from CD, but you should be able to double-click the inskape .deb file and it'll install it
<erland1> Will the dependencies be taken care of doing it that way?
<siccness> If I recall correctly, it should.
<erland1> OK, thanks for your help. Iĺl give it a shot.
<siccness> hysterio: was that an edge?
<siccness> I missed it completely
<siccness> :(
<siccness> Damn it
<MistaED2> we're running out of batsmen :E
<siccness> This is a piss poor effort
<siccness> I know blokes on the beach who'll give England a better run than this
* siccness listens to 11-Robert_Palmer-Johnny_And_Mary.ogg
* MatthewV cant do anything - internet problemS!!!!!!
<frenchninja> booyah
<MatthewV> hi frenchninja
<frenchninja> hey
<merlin-linux> does anyone know the best way to clear laptop screens?
<MatthewV> merlin-linux, clear?
<merlin-linux> clean
<Daemon> water
<merlin-linux> my laptop manual does not say how and i got spots i need to clean off it
<Daemon> and buy yourself a proper cloth
<merlin-linux> proper cloth?
<Daemon> do NOT use metho / window cleaner, you'll strip the protective coating off
<Daemon> yeah, there are proper cloths designed for cleaning monitor screens, they're microfibre etc
<merlin-linux> ok
<Daemon> ones from the supermarkets probably do the same thing
<siccness> I guess you gotta give it to Hussey for taking control
<tuxta> Can anyone tell me, is the Australian Ubuntu Loco team active ?
<tuxta> It been quite some time since my last visit
<Daemon> very
<tuxta> kewl
<tuxta> Im putting together 4 tutorial nights (1 a week for 4 weeks), for people new to linux, and I have decided to use Ubuntu for the distro they learn.
<tuxta> Are there any resources from the lo-co that might help with planning the lessons?
<Daemon> these to publish online or give as a presentation?
<tuxta> Actual, classes, held at a community centre, I have people already signed up
<siccness> Cool
<Daemon> http://ubuntu.org.au/ <- maybe some info there
<tuxta> k
<tuxta> Ill check it out
<siccness> tuxta: Someone in here recently did the same
<Daemon> good to hear, I'm going to be publishing some intro guides online early this year
<Daemon> along with a number of other linux / ubuntu guides
<tuxta> very kewl
<siccness> What needs to be done is a site with all th information
<siccness> rather than 30 different guides at 30 different sites
<tuxta> Yeah, I tried that a while ago, but I have a girly hissy fit, and took my toys and left
<tuxta> Sorry about that
<siccness> for what?
<tuxta> Remember the lo-co doc project?
<siccness> nope
<tuxta> hmm, Ill see if there is any of it left
<Daemon> siccness: which is what I intend to do, have guides starting with the basic and working their way through to advanced
<Daemon> they're not going to be 100% ubuntu specific, but based on where I think it's necessary
<siccness> Yup
<siccness> I started a site awhile ago for such
<siccness> Didn't go far unfortunately.
<tuxta> Seems it is all gone now - Basically I started a page, intended to creat docs for speaches presentations etc. But did not take off- No contributions other tha 1 person
<tuxta> Anyway, thats the past. Ive grown up since then
<siccness> Heh fair enough.
<siccness> If Australia can get 4 runs off 10 balls we get the bonus point :D
<tuxta> siccness: Do you remember who is was that did the Ubuntu presentation?
<siccness> GAME OVER
<siccness> SHIT YEAH!
<siccness> Uhm, nah I can't quite remember, sorry.
<tuxta> I love my new dual core - compiling a kernel -chatting - websurfing, and not missing a beat
* merlin-linux just scarfed down a whooper with cheese and a grilled chicken burger
<siccness> tuxta: heheh
<siccness> what proc?
<siccness> merlin-linux: lol, sounds like hungry jacks
<merlin-linux> siccness: yeah
<merlin-linux> siccness: better than your kfc
<siccness> Easily.
<merlin-linux> hehe
<siccness> Dead rat grilled woulda been better than KFC
<merlin-linux> lmao
<tuxta> My proc is dual core turion - 64bit (although running 32 bit os)
<siccness> Nice.
<tuxta> only 512 fsb, but it seems to do the job
<siccness> uhh ?
<tuxta> Front side bus
<siccness> Yes
<siccness> they run at 512?
<tuxta> Hmm, maybe im getting mixed up with ram numbers -heh- Ill have another look
<siccness> I believe you are.
<siccness> 512 l2 cache perhaps?
<tuxta> yes it was the cache that was 512
<tuxta> hmm, how do I find the fsb ?
<tuxta> cant seem to see and entry in /proc/cpuinfo
<siccness> what turion is it?
<tuxta> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
<tuxta> cpu family : 15
<tuxta> model : 72
<tuxta> model name : AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2
<tuxta> stepping : 2
<tuxta> cpu MHz : 1607.461
<tuxta> cache size : 256 KB
<tuxta> physical id : 0
<tuxta> siblings : 2
<tuxta> core id : 0
<tuxta> cpu cores : 2
<tuxta> fdiv_bug : no
<tuxta> hlt_bug : no
<tuxta> f00f_bug : no
<tuxta> coma_bug : no
<siccness> sigh
<tuxta> fpu : yes
<tuxta> fpu_exception : yes
<tuxta> cpuid level : 1
<tuxta> wp : yes
<MatthewV> tuxta, maybe you should pastebin?
<tuxta> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm cr8legacy ts fid vid ttp tm stc
<tuxta> bogomips : 3217.66
<tuxta> clflush size : 64
<tuxta> oh yes, sorry.
<MistaED2> cpu pr0n
<siccness> You have the TL-50
<tuxta> okay
<tuxta> and what bus speed does the TL-50 have?
<siccness> 1600MHz HT
<tuxta> I thought that was just the hz speed
<siccness> HT replaced FSB
<tuxta> ah
<tuxta> clear
<tuxta> oops wrong window
<tuxta> heh, I hate it when I do that
<tuxta> better switch beryl back on
<tuxta> hmm, maybe when the kernel is finished compiling
<merlin-linux> this my cpuinfo output >>> http://pastebin.ca/321390
<siccness> I would show off but shes not overclocked atm :P
<merlin-linux> siccness: mine not overclocked
<siccness> I know
<tuxta> merlin-linux: seems a huge cache, but slow proc
<siccness> slow? hah!
<siccness> That thing is quick.
<siccness> Clock speed means very little
<tuxta> 800 ?
<siccness> http://pastebin.ca/321394
<merlin-linux> tuxta: my laptop got a cintrino core duo 1.6GHz in it
<tuxta> So what does cpu MHz         : 800.000 mean?
<MistaED2> power saving
<tuxta> ah
<tuxta> forgot
<MistaED2> when you push your machine, try checking it again
<tuxta> I turned my freq scaling off
<tuxta> even when set to "on demand" still did not have the same pick up
<tuxta> I rarley run on battery, so it does not matter to me
<tuxta> Im a real noob when it comes to hardware (as Im sure you can tell)
<merlin-linux> here my laptop running cpuburn-in >>> http://pastebin.ca/321398
<siccness> merlin-linux: Do you find the large L2 cache helpful, or better yet, useful?
<merlin-linux> siccness: yes
<merlin-linux> siccness: when doing cpu intensive stuff it helps
<merlin-linux> eg compiling
<MistaED2> or rendering :D
<tuxta> Anyone got an email address for eklbuntu ?
<Daemon> tuxta: have a look under launchpad
<Phlosten> tuxta: or try meldraweb.com
<tuxta> thnx
<merlin-linux> “Fly, you fools!” he cried, and was gone.
<siccness> haha, like 30 aussies layin into the poms
<siccness> on whirlpool
<merlin-linux> siccness: you love whingepool
<Tatey> hi guys
<merlin-linux> hiho Tatey
<Tatey> what's up? :)
<MatthewV> hi all, again...
<MatthewV> Tatey, my net connection is not..
<Tatey> hah, that's no good
<MatthewV> Tatey, no.. i think its actually dns that i'm having issues with..
<MatthewV> anyone know if there is any possible way to open MS publisher files in ubuntu
<MatthewV> i'm guessing there is not :(
<Tatey> MatthewV: if it is DNS issues, you can easily circumvent that
<MatthewV> Tatey, how.. by manually entering dns?
<merlin-linux> Tatey: stuffing my beer in a cooler bag
<Tatey> merlin-linux: yes, you can do it with /etc/resolv
<Tatey> err MatthewV sorry :)
<Tatey> what ISP are you with?
<MatthewV> Tatey, thanks.. with southern cross telco.. their website isnt very helpful at all :(
<merlin-linux> Tatey: hehe
<Tatey> okay, enter this for tour nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf
<Tatey> 203.0.178.191
<Tatey> that's the DNS server for iiNet
<merlin-linux> damn it is so muggy here
<MatthewV> Tatey, k, thanks.. i'll give that a try
<siccness> yeah muggy here too
<MatthewV> Tatey, :-D
<MatthewV> thanks
<Tatey> working?
<MatthewV> Tatey, yep
<MatthewV> :)
<Tatey> mind you, if you're using DHCP to obtain your IP, next time you reboot, it'll put the DHCP server in there so you'll need to change it again
<MatthewV> Tatey, i'm not, so thats fine
<MatthewV> I had a static ip address using the modem for dns lookup
<MatthewV> (i think)
<Tatey> ahh okay
<MatthewV> Tatey, the web seems to be going faster than ever before... ;)
<merlin-linux> tell you dhcp server what external dns to use
<MatthewV> thanks so much
<MatthewV> merlin-linux, ahh... i'll have to try find that
<siccness> Commonwealth Bank Series Table: Aus (14), Eng (4), NZ (0)
<siccness> Bahaha
<merlin-linux> MatthewV: if your box doing the pppoe connection look here at this file /etc/ppp/resolv.conf
<MatthewV> siccness, can you do me a quick favour?
<siccness> nah
<siccness> :P
<MatthewV> merlin-linux, its not - modem connected to network
<siccness> sure mate, what is it?
<merlin-linux> MatthewV: and put your ISP dns stuff there
<MatthewV> siccness, can you check and see if http://www.matthewv.id.au/ is working?
<MatthewV> thanks a lot..
<siccness> not working
<merlin-linux> not working here too
<MatthewV> siccness, :( ok, thanks...
<Changlinn> night all
<siccness> night mate
<MatthewV> k guys, thanks.. can you confirm then that http://matthewv.dyndns.org/ is working? that should be...
<siccness> yup
<siccness> that works
<MatthewV> siccness, yeah thought so.. hmm....
<MatthewV> thanks a lot
<MatthewV> the first is actually just an alias for the second.. so i wonder what's gone wrong...
<merlin-linux> that url is working here
<siccness> http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2001/09/13/daniellewin.jpg <--that guy looks like a young Michael Chikalis
<MatthewV> Tatey, that iinet dns server seems to go much faster than my old one - thank you :)
<MatthewV> hi Cyvros
<siccness> Hey Cyvros
<Cyvros> Howdy, MatthewV, siccness.
<merlin-linux> hiho Cyvros
<Cyvros> Hiya, merlin-linux.
<siccness> I might head to bed early tonight :|
<Cyvros> Good God... People greeting me.
* Cyvros is so utterly overjoyed!
* Cyvros wets himself in pleasure.
<merlin-linux> siccness: must be really sick if going to bed early, or got no grog
<Cyvros> BBL, tennis.
<siccness> sick, very sick
<merlin-linux> siccness: kfc will do that to you
<siccness> thats exactly where the finger is pointed
<merlin-linux> the only time i will eat kfc is if i got paid a million dollars
<siccness> i'd be somewhat reluctant to ever touch the filthy shit again
<siccness> even the beers are struggling to stay down
<siccness> i better be well by tomorrow
<siccness> i got a 21st to go t
<siccness> to
<merlin-linux> hehe
<siccness> That bar tab is gonna be gone within 2hours is my guess
<merlin-linux> siccness: and most of it will be drunken to you
<siccness> me and a mate (mate of mine is crazy)
<siccness> I've never seen his boot without 2 or 3 slabs in it.
<merlin-linux> boot?
<siccness> car boot.
<merlin-linux> ah ok
<Cyvros> It can't be *that* bad.
<merlin-linux> so he drinks and drives
<siccness> Nope.
<Cyvros> We live two minutes away from what has been voted the worst KFC in Victoria.
<Cyvros> Even that isn't so bad.
<siccness> Everywhere he goes, he sleeps in the car.
<merlin-linux> siccness: oh hehe
<siccness> Cyvros: Which one is that?
<Tatey> what are you fella's up to?
<Cyvros> siccness: Bell and Albert Streets, Preston.
<Cyvros> Tatey: About to BBL.
<siccness> Tatey: About to bed.
<siccness> Just have to wait 11mins.
<merlin-linux> Tatey: i am drinking beer and watching varonica mars
<Tatey> VM is a great show
<merlin-linux> Tatey: yeah :-)
<Tatey> I think I'm going to start a free file hosting service
<merlin-linux> Tatey: oh
<merlin-linux> Tatey: it sounds good but becareful of copyright stuff
<Tatey> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=666336 <--- owned
<merlin-linux> Tatey: why owned?
<Tatey> merlin-linux: his IT network guy left him, and without any information about the machine
<siccness> Night all
<Tatey> you're going to bed early siccness
<siccness> yea a little under the weather
<siccness> ill prolly be up in 2hrs
<merlin-linux> siccness: g'night mate, hope you wake up feeling better
<merlin-linux> Tatey: but it is rather easy to reset the password tho
<Tatey> true
<merlin-linux> and the way the other guy was explaining how to change the password bit over the top
<merlin-linux> the guy with the last post
<merlin-linux> easiest way is to put the server into recovery mode
<merlin-linux> but i think red hat have a key combo to press as it boots up to change the root password iirc
<merlin-linux> Tatey: you got to love to the in VM show ubuntu got a mention in a couple episodes
<Tatey> really?
<merlin-linux> yes
<merlin-linux> last season
<MatthewV> night all
<merlin-linux> Tatey: read here >>> http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2005/04/ubuntu_meets_veronica_mars.html
<Tatey> I recall taht epsidoe
<merlin-linux> :-)
<merlin-linux> Tatey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzebPb60ffQ
<Tatey> haha
<merlin-linux> Tatey: bring back sweet memories for you?
<merlin-linux> hehe
<merlin-linux> that ubuntu in VM clip is season 1 episode 11
<Tatey> yes it does
<merlin-linux> i am going to collect the dvd season sets for VM
<merlin-linux> Tatey: is it muggy as hell where you are?
<Tatey> nope, and I'm in Brisbane
<Tatey> it's usually very bad
<siccness> Couldn't even last an hour :|
<merlin-linux> siccness: it crap weather to be sleeping in here
<siccness> Yup
<Tatey> are you both in Victoira?
<siccness> I'm so tempted to f'off down the street and cool down
<Tatey> Brisbane is usually very bad for humidity, but it's been unusually cool this summer
<siccness> merlin-linux is from S.A
<Tatey> admittedly I also have airconditioning in my room, but I'm reluctant to use it because it cots money
<Tatey> *costs
<siccness> So does using a computer :P
<merlin-linux> Tatey: i not long turned my a/c back on
<merlin-linux> Tatey: i have to use a/c as i have no choice as it gets damn hot at my end
<Tatey> http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Starship-Enterprise-Out-of-a-Floppy-Disk <-- lol
<siccness> So sad.
<Tatey> I thought it was cool :P
<weiteck> how long does qt usually take to compile?
<siccness> How anyone is supposed to answer that is beyond me
<weiteck> i'm just looking for a ballpark figure
<weiteck> like long, very long, ridiculously long, etc.
<siccness> Ok, between 5 seconds and 24hrs
<weiteck> thanks :x
<siccness> What system you got?
<weiteck> 3ghz, 512mb
<merlin-linux> weiteck: how long is a piece of string
<siccness> what processor exactly?
<weiteck> p4 w/ ht
<siccness> Ok
<weiteck> merlin-linux, depends which string?
<siccness> Well my guess would be between 2hrs-2.5hrs
<weiteck> thanks
<merlin-linux> weiteck: well that how long it going to take to compile
<siccness> weiteck: I'm actually now thinking under 2hrs
<siccness> 1.5 perhaps
<siccness> how long she been goin for now?
<weiteck> a while; i didn't pay much attention to the time
<weiteck> probably about 30 minutes
<siccness> Why are you compiling it anyway?
<weiteck> i need it for the last.fm player
* merlin-linux got resident evil on in the background
<siccness> weiteck: and im assuming that requires a version of qt that isn't available in the repos?
<weiteck> it requires 4.1.x
<weiteck> it probably is available, but having only been using ubuntu since yesterday, i invariably end up doing things to the long and painful way
<siccness> Sounds like you need ge?too :)
<siccness> or some other rediculously stupid distro
<weiteck> why's that?
<merlin-linux> there is qt 4.2 in the ubuntu edgy repos
<merlin-linux> so i can see why you are compiling it
<weiteck> i'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not
<merlin-linux> so sarcasm, just saying
<merlin-linux> s/so/no
<weiteck> which of the libqt4 packages should be installed to solve dependency issues?
<siccness> the ones which are necessary? :)
<quail> in ubuntu dapper there is qt 4.1.2
<weiteck> yes, but if something just says it requires this or that version of qt, which ones do you install?
<weiteck> i've never touched qt in my life
<merlin-linux> weiteck: sudo apt-get install libqt4
<merlin-linux> apt-get will install all the deps needed for libqt4
<weiteck> awesome, thanks
<weiteck> and i should manually at the path to .profiles?
<weiteck> *add
<merlin-linux> the install should take care of all that for you
<merlin-linux> !libqt4
<weiteck> okay. it's just that qmake couldn't be found when i tried that before
<ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libqt4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
<merlin-linux> !libqt4-core
<merlin-linux> wtf is this bot drunk
<ubotu> libqt4-core: Qt 4 core non-GUI functionality runtime library. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0-1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 1144 kB, installed size 2972 kB
<merlin-linux> wb tuxta
<tuxta> ty
<merlin-linux> weiteck: have you editted your sources.list to have access to all the ubuntu repos
<merlin-linux> weiteck: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
<merlin-linux> and then sudo apt-get update
<merlin-linux> after editing the sources.list file and saving the file
<tuxta> Do you know much about kpkg merlin-linux ?
<merlin-linux> tuxta: no
<tuxta> k
<merlin-linux> besides i have a python script for compile kernel and it uses kpkg
<merlin-linux> compiling
<weiteck> apt-cache is listing the libqt4 packages already
<merlin-linux> weiteck: kewl
<weiteck> are any regulars here from newcastle?
<merlin-linux> weiteck: have a look here for starters >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Members
<weiteck> three, sort of
<tuxta> brb
<siccness> hmm
<siccness> i hope im not forced to give a speech at this 21st
<merlin-linux> siccness: hehe
* siccness whistles
<Tatey> oh dear...
<tuxta> well that took longer than expected
<tuxta> who is up at this ungodly hour? from memory quail_linux use to hang out pretty late
<siccness> me
<tuxta> oh and siccness
<siccness> big sicc doesnt sleep
<tuxta> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZmJ63sHoKU
<tuxta> I love this ad
<siccness> http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/sleep/sheep/reaction_version5.swf
<tuxta> I got all the sheep, did shoot when they did not run, and averaged 0.2946 second reaction
<tuxta> did not shoot
<siccness> man thats slow
<tuxta> First time dude
<siccness> hehe its addictive
<tuxta> and I was making sure I did not shoot when one did not run
<siccness> yeah
<siccness> otherwise you get a 3sec penalty
<siccness> my avg time: 0.1988
<tuxta> my best was 0.184
<siccness> my best was 0.121 (but the rest were shit)
<siccness> wth, i just got a reaction time of: 0.0000 for Sheep 1
<tuxta> second attempt I improved to 0.2304
<tuxta> with practice you could get really good
<tuxta> I guess Ill never be good :P
<siccness> I do so well, then accidently press it on the last one
<tuxta> Did you like the ad ?
<siccness> what ad?
<siccness> oh youtube?
<tuxta> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZmJ63sHoKU
<siccness> didnt check it
<siccness> youtube acts retardedly for me atm
<siccness> ill check it tomorrow on dads machine
<tuxta> you need flashplayer 9
<tuxta> works flawlessly for me
<siccness> yah i got that
<siccness> just youtube is actin up for some reason
<tuxta> try iceweasel
<tuxta> heh, not that it will make any difference at all
<tuxta> just thought I would throw that in
<siccness> heh yeah that wont make any diff :P
<siccness> Ooo new best average :D
<tuxta> are you from new zealand siccness ?
<siccness> aussie mate
<tuxta> oh, just wondering where your sheep fetish comes from
<tuxta> :P
<siccness> har :P
<siccness> http://www.mathsisfun.com/games/reaction-time.html <--another one
<siccness> 0.088 for a reaction time :D
<siccness> yeah this is what life's all about, staying up til stupid times testing reaction times.
<tuxta> avg time 0.24
<tuxta> heh, this is really living
<siccness> LOL
<tuxta> second go .237
<tuxta> whats yours ?
<siccness> Sheep Game: 0.1812; Dot Game: 0.189
<siccness> So pretty similar for both games
<tuxta> okay, Im not playing anymore
<siccness> I reckon if I weren't drunk
<siccness> I'd do better
<tuxta> heh, I was just about to use that as an excuse
<tuxta> but yet again, you were faster
<siccness> lol
<siccness> see the thing is..
<siccness> if you wanna be quick
<siccness> you gotta be relaxed
<siccness> dont get all close to it
<siccness> and bend your index finger a little
<tuxta> Dude, you need to get away from these games for a while
<siccness> new average: 0.175
<tuxta> try life, it fun sometimes
<siccness> nah man
<siccness> it's 3:30am
<siccness> it's all about pointless flash games
<tuxta> I hear you though! Ive never been beaten in air hockey, and my secret is to fully relax, and not try and follow the puck, I just look at the centre of the table -> I dont even focus, everything is flightly blurred
<siccness> exactly.
<siccness> the more you expect something, the less you focus because you know it's coming
<siccness> it's almost a trick on the mind
<tuxta> yeah, you need to react, not pre-empt
<siccness> (although i could be just talkin bullshit :D)
<tuxta> thats two of use
<tuxta> us
<tuxta> Im drinking stout, so its quite possible
<tuxta> whats your poisen?
<siccness> beer (and a couple of bourbons)
<tuxta> beer? more specific ?
<siccness> VB
<tuxta> ah
<siccness> (although I had a couple of coronas too)
<tuxta> I swear, this is the last kernel I compile for at least 6 months
<tuxta> Im over it
<siccness> heh
<tuxta> one small mistake and you just wasted an hour
<siccness> I think this brings me to the question of, what the hell are you compiling? The whole thing?
<tuxta> Heh, lol
<tuxta> well, I did a whole make menuconfig, had a loss of power half way through compiling, and to top it off lost the .config
<siccness> lol
<tuxta> so I considered going through it all again, bu then just thought Ill change the major things
<tuxta> hence this huge compilation
<siccness> thats nuts
<tuxta> I just want my heaadphones to work, if the kernel it bloated, so be it
<siccness> what headphones?
<tuxta> the headphone jack for my soundcard is not supported until 2.6.20
<siccness> so you're compiling that are ya?
<tuxta> Not just the module
<tuxta> because I also needed my wireless card to work
<siccness> ahh
<tuxta> its a broadcom bcm4311, mini pci express
<siccness> im gonna wait till .20 is stable
<siccness> i want sata_nv (with ncq support)
<tuxta> Yeah, I just could not wait any longer, have to due a screen capture tutorial for work
<tuxta> and the headphone jack and microphone fall under the same driver
<siccness> ahh ok
<tuxta> gotta love xvidcap
<tuxta> whoo hoo, its linking now
<tuxta> compilation done
<siccness> nice
<tuxta> yeah, there seems to be a few things in the kernel my laptop probably wont use too much --> like the isdn cards etc
<siccness> heh
<siccness> 80% of the kernel is useless to me
<tuxta> at least
<tuxta> do you use an initrd.img ?
<siccness> Depends
<siccness> some kernels i have an initrd image
<tuxta> why ?
<tuxta> usplash ?
<siccness> no reason why
<tuxta> k
<siccness> i dont actually use ubuntu
<siccness> so there's a particular reason
<tuxta> k, what do you use
<siccness> gentoo
<tuxta> ah
<siccness> if i use genkernel
<siccness> it'll automatically do an initrd image
<siccness> if i do it manually then none
<tuxta> whoa, genkernel is almost as bloated as my kernel
<tuxta> heh
<siccness> not necessarily
<siccness> still uses menuconfig
<siccness> just saves me from typin
<tuxta> Oh, when I did a genkernel I just did a generic one
<siccness> Ahh ok
<tuxta> did not know that you could use it with menuconfig
<tuxta> Gentoo can just do everything
<siccness> genkernel --menuconfig all
<tuxta> ah
<tuxta> want to know a secret ?
<siccness> sure
<tuxta> I dont use Ubuntu either
<tuxta> heh
<siccness> Heh
<siccness> What distro?
<tuxta> Debian
<siccness> Nice
<tuxta> Yet we are here in the Ubuntu-au room heh
<tuxta> thats funny
<siccness> A large percentage of people in this room don't use ubuntu primarily
<tuxta> rofl
<tuxta> really?
<siccness> yup
<siccness> but most of us have ubuntu on one of our machines
<tuxta> k
<siccness> but we got people using gentoo, arch, gnewsense, debian
<tuxta> I install Ubuntu or linux mint for other people
<tuxta> My parents are on Ubuntu
<siccness> yea, my old mans box has dapper
<tuxta> Im considering putting in a little more effort and setting people up with Debian testing, that way I dont have to go back and upgrade them every 6 months
<siccness> i'd just give them dapper
<tuxta> Not my idea to upgrade them, they actually are obsessed it seems with having the latest stuff
<siccness> considering it's lts
<siccness> hmm
<tuxta> well actually its only about 5 machines
<tuxta> but still a pain
<siccness> yea
<siccness> upgrading 1 machine is a pain
<tuxta> very true
<tuxta> Im kinda getting over the Ubuntu release cycle
<siccness> a few people have said that
<tuxta> I like the gentoo / debian testing way of continually evolving
<siccness> rolling-release
<siccness> Arch is like that
<tuxta> But the problem is the time it takes to get the first install and everything configured, where as Ubuntu, drop disc in, install run easyubuntu
<tuxta> so I got to weigh up, if the short term pain is worth the long term gain
<siccness> Depends I guess
<tuxta> Have you ever checked out sourcemage ?
<siccness> Nope
<tuxta> k
<tuxta> me neither heh
<siccness> Sounds a little corny :|
<siccness> spell to install
<siccness> dispel to uninstall
<tuxta> I think we need more distro's, there is just not enough choice for newbies
<siccness> cast to install *
<tuxta> yeah
<siccness> There's too many distros :P
<tuxta> But their website says they are better than Gentoo
<siccness> Hahaha
<siccness> "We're better than [Insert Other Distro]"
<tuxta> well Im off for the night, gunna try my new kernel and then go to bed
<tuxta> see you again later
<siccness> Night mate, take care.
<tuxta> good luck with the whole sheep thing
<tuxta> :P
<MatthewV> mornin' all
<maverick> yo, how do i install the w32codecs??
<TheMuso> maverick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats should tell you I think.
<maverick> o robbed cant install in on amd64 architecture
<maverick> o nice xmms has mp3 plugin already :D :D
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