| <dblade4> so it does hav it? | |
| <dblade4> i can't tell | |
| <frederific> possibly, from looking around the net, I can tell you its defo installed if you install edgy, and is probably available on the live-cd | |
| <popey> one mo, I will boot up the live cd here and tell you | |
| <dblade4> k, thx | |
| <Seeker`> hmm | |
| <popey> yes, the edgy live cd does have it | |
| <Seeker`> i;ve lost the batteries for my camera :S | |
| <popey> want a screenshot dblade4 ? :) | |
| <dblade4> of wat? | |
| <dblade4> o rite | |
| <dblade4> wats edgy live? | |
| <frederific> Seeker`: AAs or expensive proprietary? | |
| <popey> current latest stable desktop cd | |
| <popey> edgy == 6.10 | |
| <Seeker`> frederific: Rechargable AAs that came with the camera | |
| <popey> dblade4: http://gallery.popey.com/gallery/screenshots/Screenshot_QEMU_004 | |
| <popey> note in that screenshot the filename ath_pci - it's one of the madwifi drivers | |
| <popey> which you can see by the path | |
| <frederific> meh, could be worse. If I lost the li-ion thing from my Canon, its £40 for a new one | |
| <frederific> @Seeker` btw | |
| <Seeker`> all the other AA batteries in my room are too low power to run the camera | |
| <frederific> ah | |
| <Seeker`> i've got some budget ones that lasted for literally 30 seconds | |
| <frederific> eep! What camera is it? | |
| <Seeker`> Nikkon Coolpix 4100 | |
| <Seeker`> its a couple of years old now | |
| <frederific> yeah, just looking at on dpreview | |
| <frederific> I'm surprised it discharged even budget cells in 30secs, I'd have expected at least a few mins... | |
| <Seeker`> the budget batteries are at least 6 months old | |
| <Seeker`> and have been briefly used in other things like remote controls | |
| <frederific> ah, right | |
| <dblade4> does anyone know if knoppix comes with madwifi drivers? | |
| <dsas> dblade4: try #knoppix maybe | |
| <dblade4> yea i hav it and it finds ath0 | |
| <dblade4> but i don't know how to set it up | |
| <dblade4> or how to set up my usb modem | |
| <frederific> i think dsas meant the IRC channel, #knoppix | |
| <frederific> type /join #knoppix | |
| <dblade4> k | |
| <popey> dblade4: what usb modem? | |
| <dblade4> alcatel speedtouch 530 | |
| <popey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo | |
| <popey> ok, you can do it | |
| <popey> but you will lose the files you download when you reboot | |
| * frederific is going to bed | |
| <frederific> cya everyone | |
| <popey> nn | |
| <Atom-> i need help requesting being unbanned from the main #ubuntu channel, i think i was banned fro requesting the exact same info from the bot twice, but a couple hours apart | |
| <Atom-> its a busy channel, and i couldnt find the same info from my first request, so i did it again, and i believe thats why i was banned | |
| <Atom-> any help would be appreciated thank you :) | |
| <Atom-> actualy it was about 30 mins apart, ive looked over the log, cant find any reference to being kicked or banned | |
| <Seeker`> lo | |
| <Seeker`> hi GazzaK | |
| <GazzaK> hello Seeker` nice morning isn't it | |
| <Seeker`> oh yes | |
| <Seeker`> i've still got to get to work | |
| <GazzaK> bit wet out there, and the damn wind, wooo | |
| <Seeker`> in fact, i should be gone | |
| <Seeker`> seeya later | |
| <GazzaK> hello mmedland & oldmanstan | |
| <mmedland> GazzaK: Hi | |
| <mmedland> how are you this morning? | |
| <oldmanstan> why hello there | |
| <oldmanstan> i'm watching the "how to use irc with gaim" screencast, excellent, very interesting | |
| <GazzaK> me, cold, wet, and at work :'( | |
| <GazzaK> oldmanstan, popey's screencasts are really good | |
| <mmedland> GazzaK: I'm about to leave for another fun filled day at school :( | |
| <oldmanstan> yeah, he did a great job | |
| <GazzaK> mmedland, as a stoodent or staff | |
| <mmedland> GazzaK: A student, I'm in my last year of A levels | |
| <mmedland> which is nice | |
| <GazzaK> eeek, have fun then, mind the tutors, they are out to get ya | |
| <mmedland> nah, mine are all right :P | |
| <mmedland> the techies hate me though | |
| <oldmanstan> A levels, is that like a bachelor degree? or is it like high school in US? if you know | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, back when I was at school, I made the admin into a user and made my own account the administrator account, he never liked me after that | |
| <mmedland> It's like high school I think | |
| <mmedland> GazzaK: crafty | |
| <GazzaK> serves him right for having a easy to guess password | |
| <oldmanstan> we got into the message app in windows nt and sent the whole school messages at random times, til they caught on and locked the computers | |
| <mmedland> GazzaK: I'm not gonna say what I did, it might embarrass them | |
| <mmedland> oldmanstan: They must of loved that :) | |
| <oldmanstan> oh yes | |
| <GazzaK> oldmanstan, net send is a lovely thing | |
| <mmedland> right, thats my email checked and digg skimmed, i need to go | |
| <mmedland> have a good day at work GazzaK | |
| <GazzaK> have a good day yourself mmedland | |
| <mmedland> and oldmanstan have a generally good day | |
| <mmedland> Toodle Pip | |
| <oldmanstan> you as well mmedland | |
| <GazzaK> toodle pip - lol | |
| <oldmanstan> hahaha, i love it | |
| <mmedland> oops, that was a typo in the quit message | |
| <mmedland> ill try again | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| <oldmanstan> what client are you using Gazzak? | |
| <GazzaK> xchat | |
| <GazzaK> I like it more than gaim | |
| <oldmanstan> hmm, maybe i should try that one, watching the screencast now | |
| <GazzaK> gaim is good imo for msn stylee | |
| <oldmanstan> yeah, i like the idea of one app for all messaging but seems that a dedicated app would be more powerful | |
| <GazzaK> yes | |
| <GazzaK> designed for the purposes | |
| <GazzaK> plus you can do annoying things like: | |
| <GazzaK> Computer: dogbert | Distro: Ubuntu 6.10 "edgy" | Processor: 800.00Mhz | Model: Intel Pentium M processor 2.00GHz | Memory: 2019MB Free: 1713MB [▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ] | Diskspace: 35.00GB Free: 29.00GB | Video: Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express @ 1024x768 (24 bpp) | Net: Down: 0.82GB Up: 0.68GB | |
| <GazzaK> or: | |
| <GazzaK> Computer: dogbert | Distro: Ubuntu 6.10 "edgy" | Processor: 800.00Mhz | Model: Intel Pentium M processor 2.00GHz | Memory: 2019MB Free: 1713MB [▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀] | Diskspace: 35.00GB Free: 29.00GB | Video: Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express @ 1024x768 (24 bpp) | Net: Down: 0.82GB Up: 0.68GB | |
| <GazzaK> which really annoys people | |
| <oldmanstan> hahaha nice! | |
| <oldmanstan> i want to learn all the little IRC tricks | |
| <oldmanstan> i've heard people can get it to do crazy stuff | |
| <GazzaK> not really, there is some cool stuff, but I'd never say it was "crazy stuff" | |
| <GazzaK> it's a chat thing, not a world domination platform | |
| <GazzaK> :-) | |
| <oldmanstan> hahaha, fudge | |
| <oldmanstan> my hopes are dashed | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| <oldmanstan> ok, coming back on xchat, be back | |
| <GazzaK> xchat is, I find, a lot easier to have multiple channels open at once | |
| <GazzaK> okay | |
| <GazzaK> :-) | |
| <oldmanstan> here i am again | |
| <GazzaK> I see | |
| <GazzaK> xchat? | |
| <oldmanstan> yes, alan pope is my new hero | |
| <GazzaK> yay | |
| <GazzaK> he is mine too | |
| <oldmanstan> he is developing a following then | |
| <oldmanstan> maybe irc really is a world domination platform... | |
| <GazzaK> I did some annoyingly annoying popey for president images for when he was going for ubuntu membership, he hates them | |
| <oldmanstan> hahaha, nice | |
| <GazzaK> serves him right for having embarrassing pictures of him on his website | |
| <oldmanstan> haha, i have to check that out | |
| <GazzaK> and sabdfl (mark shuttleworth) said they were cool | |
| <oldmanstan> do you have them online? | |
| <GazzaK> I cannot find it now | |
| <GazzaK> http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/data/549/popey_for_president.jpg hehe | |
| <GazzaK> but don't show it to popey as he hates it | |
| <GazzaK> oldmanstan, hehe | |
| <oldmanstan> LOL | |
| <oldmanstan> that's hilarious Gazzak | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, we all thought that too | |
| <GazzaK> he got his membership too, so I like to kid myself it was the thing which swung it :-) | |
| <oldmanstan> hahaha, oh definitely | |
| <Seeker`> lo | |
| <GazzaK> at work now Seeker` ? | |
| <GazzaK> I'm writing a new CV, must be havign a bad morning eh | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: yep | |
| <GazzaK> I have no idea where my old (3 years odd ago) cv has gone :-( | |
| <oldmanstan> must be a really really bad morning... | |
| <Seeker`> oldmanstan: why? | |
| * popey farts on GazzaK | |
| <oldmanstan> gazzak was searching for old cv | |
| <oldmanstan> so must be a bad morning | |
| <GazzaK> popey, lol :p | |
| <GazzaK> owww, this is fun | |
| <GazzaK> I'm getting very very annoyed with this job, so have decided to look elsewhere, but i'm not in a hurry | |
| <GazzaK> it's just been like three years since I last even looked at a cv | |
| <popey> I start a new contrat on monday | |
| <GazzaK> popey, would it be cheeky to beg for a copy of your cv? (to plagiarize ) | |
| <GazzaK> and whats the new contract about? same place or new place? close to a pub or not? | |
| <Seeker`> lo stdin] | |
| <stdin> hey Seeker` | |
| <stdin> appaently I had a powercut last night, so I've just been fscking :) | |
| <stdin> now I'm goin to switch to runlevel 2 and get my gui back | |
| <GazzaK> first time I've ever had to use OpenOffice writer for much, it's nice innit :-) | |
| <Seeker`> anyone else getting errors from beryl-svn? | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK? | |
| <popey> GazzaK: the contract is 10 mins from home | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, yes | |
| <GazzaK> i've given up on it for a bit and removed it | |
| <GazzaK> popey, woooo | |
| <stdin> I do like my gui :) | |
| <oldmanstan> stdin: what app were you using to access irc from the terminal? | |
| <stdin> irssi | |
| <stdin> in a screen session | |
| <oldmanstan> nifty | |
| <popey> \o/ irssi | |
| <stdin> it's useful little app | |
| <oldmanstan> i'm reading about it now | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: when did you give up on it? | |
| <GazzaK> this morning, it kept losing the window border on newly opened apps | |
| <GazzaK> User: "Gary, Is there a simple piece of software to do programmes on that I can have put on my machine please?" | |
| <GazzaK> how do I answer that one!!! | |
| <Seeker`> "to do programmes"? | |
| <GazzaK> her words, exactly | |
| <GazzaK> shall I install c++ ? | |
| <GazzaK> or get her to do it in DOS mode :-) | |
| <GazzaK> basic? | |
| <Seeker`> ask her what she means by "to do programmes" | |
| <GazzaK> did, done, she thank goodness did not mean programs... phew | |
| <Seeker`> what did she mean? | |
| * Seeker` has gone back to the stable version of beryl | |
| <GazzaK> like what MS Project can do | |
| * Seeker` misses the features of the svn version | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, whats the main differences SVN>Stable? | |
| <Seeker`> stable has got the old config options | |
| <GazzaK> what is your sources.list entry? | |
| <Seeker`> and it doesn't have the cool things when you hover over the taskbar | |
| <Seeker`> deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main | |
| <Seeker`> are you going to install the stable version? | |
| <GazzaK> yeah | |
| <oldmanstan> i gave up on beryl for now, too many little quirks and problems, is SVN version pretty stable? | |
| <Seeker`> wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - | |
| <Seeker`> oldmanstan: The svn version kept on breaking this morning | |
| <Seeker`> the "normal" version appears to be better | |
| <oldmanstan> what kind of video card are you using? | |
| <Seeker`> intel 945 i think | |
| <oldmanstan> so you don't need binary drivers? | |
| <stdin> intel open source drivers do the job great :) | |
| <oldmanstan> nice | |
| <GazzaK> mine is a intel 915, and is easy with beryl too | |
| <stdin> I have an 845, but this pc is like 5 years old | |
| <oldmanstan> i had some issues with the nvidia beta driver that supports beryl without xgl | |
| <GazzaK> weeeeee beryly goodness \o/ | |
| <stdin> apparently the beta driver has been released as stable now | |
| <oldmanstan> yeah, i'm running it now, but i haven't tried beryl again | |
| <stdin> I tried XGL once, just out of curiosity, got 4.2 FPS on glxgears :P | |
| <oldmanstan> i wasn't really that impressed, i mean, the eye candy was cool but there were too many drawbacks | |
| <oldmanstan> yeah, it was real slow when i tried compiz on top of xgl | |
| <DaveMorris> Berly isn't working with dual screens setup as seperate x screens, any way around it? | |
| <popey> i found that | |
| <popey> it did work for me, but now does not | |
| <popey> I dont use beryl though so I dont mind too much :) | |
| <DaveMorris> I can get around it with TwinView, but not quite the same. I use it as I like to wind the Windows users up in the office :) | |
| <popey> i have twinview here too | |
| <popey> but it still rotates each screen separately | |
| <popey> be interested to see your xorg.conf | |
| <popey> see if I have some setting(s) wrong | |
| <constrictor> why use putty for ssh when you can use the shell? | |
| <gord> some people like putty | |
| <constrictor> yeah i know it's just that i'm trying to figure out the advantages, are there any? | |
| <stdin> not really, no | |
| <stdin> terminal emulators can do everything putty can do | |
| <GazzaK> eeeek, I was going to nip off to PC World, but eeek, it's horrid out there | |
| <constrictor> really scary out there man | |
| <constrictor> was almost taken off my feet coming into the office | |
| <gord> my shed only has half a roof because of the wind :( n the bins turned over and there are pizza boxes everywhere and wind sucks >:( | |
| <constrictor> maybe it's a sign to change your diet | |
| <stdin> part of me fence fell down the other day | |
| <GazzaK> constrictor, lol, pizza boxes gord - nice... | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> I've realised I lurk on IRC too much. I just muttered 'joke.popey.com' when someone told a bad joke in the office :S | |
| <GazzaK> lol | |
| <GazzaK> baa | |
| <GazzaK> sheepeatingtaz, you geek | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> :P | |
| <GazzaK> roflmaotmswl | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> I'm trying to decide whether I should try and learn how sharepoint works (asp.net?) and then learn how to use it, or stick to my principles, and continue trying to convince folks to let me install bugzilla somewhere at work. | |
| <GazzaK> i'm writing my CV | |
| <gord> the second one, unless you want me to follow you around yelling 'boo' at you for the rest of your life, sheesh | |
| <GazzaK> BOO | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> gord, I agree, but fear that it is futile. | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> however, I don't actually have any way to edit the sharepoint stuff, so the first option is also futile | |
| <sheepeatingtaz> futility ftw! | |
| <gord> nothing is futile, if it were we wouldn't be fighting the good fight every day getting free software the acceptance it deserves | |
| * dsas fights from his armchair | |
| <constrictor> i got another laptop | |
| <constrictor> really nice | |
| <GazzaK> constrictor, what breed lapdog is it? | |
| <constrictor> compaq n410c | |
| <constrictor> i think i like it | |
| <constrictor> not for any multimedia or anything just mainly coding | |
| <GazzaK> what spec and size is that one? I have a nc4200 which is a decent spec ultrportable, 12" screen, 2Ghz, 2Gb, 60Gb machine | |
| * dsas is using one of those right now. I love it. | |
| <dsas> an n410c that is | |
| <GazzaK> ahh | |
| <dsas> 12" screen (I think), 1.3ghz P3-M, 512mb RAM, | |
| <dsas> quite light and portable. (and cheap) | |
| <GazzaK> ahh, not a brand new lappy then | |
| <GazzaK> I did not recognise the model, as a current model | |
| <dsas> nah, I got mine from ebay a yearago for £230 including P+P | |
| <dsas> constrictor: Do you have a compaq w200 wifi card? | |
| <constrictor> no i don't | |
| <dsas> :( | |
| <constrictor> i think i'll have to find one that goes into pci slot though | |
| <dsas> I was hoping someone else had got it working on feisty. | |
| <GazzaK> dsas, I want OSX, legally... do I get a mac mini, which I can almost afford now, or wait a few months, and get a macbook or macbook pro | |
| <GazzaK> it's for home use only | |
| <constrictor> i have heard bad reviews about the mac book | |
| <dsas> if you use your computer at a desk, go for the mac mini probably. | |
| <constrictor> personally i don't like mac much | |
| <dsas> Doesn't the macbook have heating problems? | |
| <constrictor> i'd go for a mac mini | |
| <constrictor> yeah it heats up your lap really quick | |
| <Seeker`> GazzaK: save up for a few months and buy me a mac mini too | |
| <GazzaK> I like the style of the macbookpro, but it is like £1700, the mini is like £500 | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, :-) | |
| <constrictor> i thought mac minis were cheaper | |
| <GazzaK> they start at £399 | |
| <constrictor> a colleague at work got hers for £350 | |
| <GazzaK> where from? | |
| <constrictor> or something like that | |
| <constrictor> when they first came out | |
| <constrictor> i think it was a promotion | |
| <popey> hehe sheepeatingtaz | |
| <constrictor> in any case she says she cannot use the cd/dvd drive anymore | |
| <GazzaK> eeek, why not? | |
| <constrictor> the mini has lost it's appetite for disks, just won't eat them any more | |
| <GazzaK> I suppose a USB DVDRW is the way to sort that out cheap then | |
| <constrictor> she says it's as though something is blocking the port and she knows for a fact that she ejected the disk in there because it's that disc she wants to reload | |
| <constrictor> yeah | |
| <GazzaK> amazon has it £2 cheaper than apple | |
| <GazzaK> blimey, my office is shaking | |
| <DaveMorris> earthquake? | |
| <X3N> wind | |
| <popey> sorry, i farted | |
| <gord> either that or giant worm that lives in the ground and flew out of that cliff | |
| <constrictor> lol | |
| <popey> hehe | |
| <popey> nice reference gord | |
| <GazzaK> it's the wind, my office is a portakabin type thing | |
| <constrictor> nice so you can move it to where there's less wind | |
| <DaveMorris> lol | |
| <constrictor> or where popey is not | |
| <X3N> i can get one with an academic discount for £374.83 | |
| <X3N> still too much imo | |
| <constrictor> so Gazzak the only reason you want this mini is for a genuine OSX disc? | |
| <gord> ugh, now my brand new fence has split in two and fallen over :( | |
| <GazzaK> constrictor, no, a legal mac | |
| <constrictor> oh ok | |
| <GazzaK> I will not break the law | |
| <constrictor> how noble | |
| <GazzaK> I like the look of osx, and want one :-) | |
| <GazzaK> also MS OS's are my job so I want something which will not run windows | |
| <DaveMorris> how about osx in viriualzition | |
| <constrictor> i think for a long time that was my problem with OSX the fact that it's users bragged so much about it's eye candy | |
| <GazzaK> I am noble hehe | |
| <constrictor> and still do | |
| <DaveMorris> the problem with OSX is its a bastardised unix kernel, with all the good bit taken out | |
| <constrictor> but then i realise i try to skin my gnome into nice eye candy as well so i shut up from then on | |
| <GazzaK> maybe, but I have played on it a lot, in shops etc, and still like it, and the idea behind the mac mini is to be connected to my telly for dvd playback, emails (as I keep breaking my other pc's) and basic internet use | |
| <gord> ahem... osx runs on a "bastardised" bsd kernel ;) | |
| <constrictor> how do you manage to break your PCs Gazzak? | |
| <popey> yeah, seems a lot of people use MacMinis for that | |
| <GazzaK> something I won't mess about on/with | |
| <popey> :( | |
| <popey> you wont run ubuntu on it? | |
| <popey> if I had a mac mini under the telly the first thing I would do is wipe OS X off it | |
| <GazzaK> constrictor, by getting bored and thinking "I know, i'll stick *choose a distro* on it | |
| <constrictor> i know that feeling | |
| <constrictor> and my subscription to linux format doesn't help matters at all | |
| <GazzaK> popey, but uby can run nice on my other pc's :-) which means I will break them, as I like to tinker too much | |
| <constrictor> i get a new distro to try out every month | |
| <GazzaK> I need a machine which I do not destroy for a bit, so I actually keep my emails :p | |
| <popey> put your email on an imap server | |
| <constrictor> i like that name Gazzak "uby" it has a nice ring to it | |
| <gord> my messing about with random distro's days stoped when I found ubuntu, why need anything else ;) | |
| <GazzaK> this mac mini will just "sit there" | |
| <popey> doesnt matter what you do to the client then | |
| <GazzaK> popey, that would make sense eh | |
| <popey> I am going to go out on a limb here GazzaK and say you *will* fuck with it :) | |
| <GazzaK> since when have I made sense | |
| <GazzaK> popey, maybe... :p | |
| <constrictor> Gazzak i can tell you now that i think after about a month you will probably tinker with that mini | |
| <GazzaK> probably | |
| <gord> bleh, the news is talking about some ship thats sinking because of the wind... what about my fence! | |
| <GazzaK> but it's the thought that counts | |
| * GazzaK hopes his roof is okay | |
| <constrictor> gord maybe you should blog about the fence | |
| <constrictor> bound to get picked up somewhere | |
| <gord> blogs are just places for people to ramble on aimlessly about anything, I find irc fills that void for me ;) | |
| <Atom-> hello every1 | |
| <tsurc> gord where in the uk are you? | |
| <constrictor> i didn't think that was what i was doing here | |
| <gord> in the north west, crewe | |
| <constrictor> hello Atom- | |
| <GazzaK> wow http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=40.689574~-74.044779&style=o&lvl=1&scene=1915478&vendor=google&match_type={ifsearch:search}{ifcontent:content}&pkw=%20aerial_mapping | |
| <tsurc> that puts a stop to the high winds down shouth joke then :( | |
| <Atom-> i have a problem with the #ubuntu channel, for some reason i was banned from there i dont know why | |
| <GazzaK> opps http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=51.869655~0.891867&style=o&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=7652311 | |
| <Atom-> is anyone in there that could ask for me to try and solve my prob ? :) | |
| <GazzaK> popey, thats my office (second link) | |
| <constrictor> what's the problem Atom- | |
| <dsas> Atom-: You need to go to #ubuntu-ops | |
| <snail> Atom-: what message do you get? | |
| <Atom-> ive been banned from #ubuntu | |
| <DaveMorris> tsurc, I'm down south with high winds if your desperate to share the joke | |
| <Atom-> i couldnt see any msg about why i was banned | |
| <tsurc> na not now, the moment has gone. | |
| <Atom-> theres nothing in the log of the channel either | |
| <Atom-> k thanks i'll try that room | |
| <constrictor> oh i didn't realise that that was the problem Atom- being banned | |
| <Atom-> ye | |
| <GazzaK> woooo my car is in this one http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=51.869655~0.891867&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=7652257 | |
| <Atom-> but i duno why tho | |
| <constrictor> have you successfully joined that channel before | |
| <constrictor> i have a little issue here | |
| <constrictor> i have a windoze domain and i have installed a edgy server on one of the computers on the network | |
| <tsurc> GazzaK: mazda? | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, the red one | |
| <tsurc> christ I'v got better eyes than I thought | |
| <GazzaK> row closest to the corner of the cabins | |
| <GazzaK> black splodge of a soft top | |
| <dsas> wow, live.com has pretty cool maps | |
| <GazzaK> yeah, shame its MS | |
| * popey prefers google maps | |
| <Atom-> ok thanks for the info im talking to them now | |
| <dsas> live.com has better photos for my home | |
| <GazzaK> woooo, here is my house (soon to move, so I don't care) http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=51.798557~1.146784&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=7639967 | |
| <popey> google has better ones for mine :) | |
| <dsas> photo looks a few years old though, it has the a black car outside and we haven't had one for at least 5 years. | |
| <GazzaK> mine is quite new, roof is done, and car is on drive | |
| <popey> http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=51.294841~-0.740841&style=h&lvl=18&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=7652311 verses http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=GU14+7HF&ie=UTF8&z=19&ll=51.294832,-0.74085&spn=0.001244,0.004463&t=h&om=1&iwloc=addr | |
| <tsurc> thats amazing your car can be in two places at once. | |
| <GazzaK> tsurc, lol | |
| <dsas> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=s425jg&sll=51.294773,-0.740891&sspn=0.089309,0.344696&ie=UTF8&z=14&ll=53.182096,-1.396379&spn=0.021397,0.086174&t=h&om=1 | |
| <tsurc> I know its not soft top but I really want to chop my black sxi corsa in for a new Corsa VXr. | |
| <dsas> verseshttp://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=51.29484~-0.740837&style=h&lvl=18&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=7652311 | |
| <dsas> oops, that's popeys house. | |
| <dsas> versus http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=53.181414~-1.396369&style=a&lvl=18&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000 even | |
| <tsurc> wonder if someone could get linux runing on the engine managment | |
| <GazzaK> woo, I get 3d pictures of my work and home, you don't ner ner neerrrr | |
| <DaveMorris> work I can 3d pics, home nope | |
| <popey> 3d pics? | |
| <GazzaK> it's nice going round and round | |
| <GazzaK> popey, "birds eye view" north south east and west facing | |
| <GazzaK> must be a light aircraft | |
| <GazzaK> they are just as good as you used to have to pay for | |
| <DaveMorris> done during the summer, July to October for Brighton | |
| <popey> where do you get that? | |
| <DaveMorris> since the uni car parks are empty, which implies no students | |
| <GazzaK> try rotating it, my work shows 1x saturday and the others are midweek | |
| * dsas glares at the wind | |
| <tsurc> http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=53.149174~0.334517&style=a&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000 at least 5 years old my office is where a car is. | |
| <GazzaK> me wants http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=51.915262~0.928001&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=7639279 | |
| <DaveMorris> you want a car park? | |
| * dsas glares at the housemate who's just walked out of the house and locked the door. | |
| <GazzaK> DaveMorris, try to work out WHAT cars those are | |
| <tsurc> googles shocking if you want to see skeg. But then who would want to do that? | |
| <DaveMorris> I'm no good with cars | |
| <dsas> tsurc: You're the teacher guy from Costa del Skeg? | |
| <GazzaK> ferrari's, lots of | |
| <tsurc> not quite. Sys Admin. I don't teach. My sister is the Librarian here too. | |
| <tsurc> How you heard of me? | |
| <DaveMorris> I hope they pay better than the 1 I saw advertised for a local 2nd school | |
| <tsurc> how much was that? | |
| <DaveMorris> 15k pro rata, term time only, which means you'll only be getting around 12k | |
| * constrictor is risking his life to go and get lunch he might starve to death if he doesn't | |
| * GazzaK has sweeties | |
| <tsurc> 15.5 per anum. Means I have to work during summer though. | |
| <DaveMorris> I used to be able to earn more at Tescos (tsurc I live on the main line to London as well) | |
| <tsurc> Linux jobs round here are like rocking horse shit | |
| <dsas> tsurc: from the mailing list. I think my cousins went to that school many years ago | |
| <DaveMorris> thats where I'm lucky, as I've between Brighton and London | |
| <tsurc> Looking at a job in Oxford though. Means moving away. | |
| <DaveMorris> but I suffer on the housing stakes, as the flats are around £130k atm | |
| <tsurc> Not sure If I'll have the funds to do it. | |
| <tsurc> back in 30mins... Mac Donalds whants to give me an early corenary. ;) | |
| <DaveMorris> I was looking at IT jobs in the army/navy yesterday, some of them seemed quite nice | |
| <DaveMorris> and your living accommodation is heavily subsided etc | |
| <gord> ahh yes, designing software to kill people, fun | |
| <DaveMorris> no, thats contracted out | |
| <dsas> the in house people just maintain the computers that do it? | |
| <DaveMorris> but mantaining the systems on the ships, in the field etc | |
| <gord> weather you do it by designing a missile guidence system or just designing software to plan the guys day who designs the missile guidence system you still kill people, thats what its all about ;) | |
| <DaveMorris> so by helping with the linux kernel then your helping kill people | |
| <dsas> or by hacking on an operating system that runs the missile guidance system. Where do you stop? | |
| <DaveMorris> or by training the developers at school/uni to write the OS | |
| <dsas> DaveMorris: Do you still have to do all that fitness and shaving stuff? | |
| <gord> why is it that when you say something on the net that other people might not agree with they just take it to its ridiculous level instead of coming up with a good argument against it... | |
| <DaveMorris> lol | |
| <popey> heh | |
| <popey> gord: you are not in Kent are you? | |
| <popey> :) | |
| <DaveMorris> tbh, I'm not considering it, as I'm enjoying myself in acadamia | |
| <gord> kent is a wussy place for southen wusses popey | |
| <GazzaK> woo hoo, we are getting grey outs | |
| <popey> interesting point of view gord | |
| <DaveMorris> what about sussex? | |
| <DaveMorris> and they best not moan that we haven't had enough rain this winter | |
| <GazzaK> sussex is full of 4x4's :p | |
| <gord> pretty much anyone that is more southen than I am is a southen wuss DaveMorris | |
| <DaveMorris> how far south are you? But I'm like a mile from the coast so I'm pretty south | |
| <gord> I live in the north west | |
| <DaveMorris> I keep on closing GAIM by mistake, bloody bug | |
| <GazzaK> I just sent a weather/power warning out to all site staff, I hope they all go home | |
| <DaveMorris> *hopes my employer sends us home | |
| <X3N_> what does that mean in laymans terms GazzaK ? | |
| <GazzaK> X3N_, we have had a fair few grey outs | |
| <GazzaK> and the power could black out at any moment | |
| <GazzaK> grey out/brown out | |
| <X3N_> which means ? | |
| <X3N_> fluctuating power ? | |
| <GazzaK> yes | |
| <GazzaK> and makes it likely we will have a full blown power outage soon | |
| * GazzaK hopes | |
| <X3N_> won't you need people about for that ? | |
| <GazzaK> nope | |
| <gord> power outages arn't exsacly something you can fix yourself (unless you run your own generator of course).. kinda comes from power lines falling over and such | |
| <GazzaK> we have hardly anyone out on site anyways, as it is too windy | |
| <X3N_> oh right | |
| <X3N_> "The Met Office web site is currently experiencing a high level of demand from visitors to the site." | |
| <Seeker`> my power dropped :( | |
| <GazzaK> woo | |
| * GazzaK wishes more | |
| <X3N_> where abouts are you Seeker` ? | |
| <Seeker`> Newbury | |
| <Seeker`> it only dropped for a split second, but it did it 2 or 3 times in as many minutes | |
| <Seeker`> i think there is some sort of power backup on site though | |
| <GazzaK> Seeker`, we had grey outs like that about ten min ago | |
| <X3N_> it should get less windy later on today | |
| <GazzaK> I hope so, my little barbie car almost takes off in this weather | |
| <popey> hahaha | |
| <popey> barbie :) | |
| <GazzaK> as per the song | |
| <tsurc> aqua? | |
| <GazzaK> yeah | |
| <tsurc> oh dear.... I really should have admited to knowing that should I. | |
| <tsurc> *shouldn't | |
| <GazzaK> do you know the words? | |
| <dotwaffle> Seeker`: It happened here too, for about an hour. | |
| <DaveMorris> prehaps you can have a sing along :) | |
| <tsurc> not a clue, that god | |
| <tsurc> *thank | |
| <tsurc> bloody keyboard | |
| <GazzaK> clean it then | |
| <DaveMorris> prehaps you should get that new dell laptop that's resilient to blood | |
| <tsurc> think the problem really lies further up the input chain to be honest :) | |
| <tsurc> like... my fingers. Usefull in some situations but not in others | |
| <constrictor> :) | |
| <tsurc> dell laptop....resilient to blood! | |
| <DaveMorris> yeah I can't spell | |
| <constrictor> yeah they are and even drool | |
| <DaveMorris> http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/17/dell_debuts_latitude_atg/ if you wanna read | |
| <tsurc> wonder if the MOD will be buying them for guys mensioned earlier. | |
| <dsas> ooh, uni is being evacuated apparently, no cars allowed in the car park. | |
| <GazzaK> helicopter due? | |
| <DaveMorris> *hopes its his uni | |
| <dsas> I'm about as far away from the coast as can be DaveMorris | |
| <DaveMorris> damm | |
| <gord> evacuate the building! there is a bit of a gust! | |
| <dsas> haha, apparently the wind is blowing the building down. No uni until monday! | |
| <dsas> crumby uni. | |
| <DaveMorris> which uni is that? | |
| <dsas> DaveMorris: Staffordshire | |
| <gord> argh, I sware if this wind doesn't stop breaking my stuff I'm gonna punch it in the face >:( | |
| <Seeker`> gord: good luck | |
| <gord> damn stright | |
| * dsas -> pub | |
| <dsas> or not, I forgot there was a bughelper meeting. | |
| <GazzaK> wooo, power problems | |
| <DaveMorris> you best go home as well then | |
| * GazzaK hopes he put the dsl router on UPS | |
| <constrictor> i wanna go home | |
| * constrictor wants to go home too | |
| * GazzaK wants to hurt people | |
| <constrictor> remeber to breathe Gazzak | |
| * GazzaK finds leatherman multi-tool :-) | |
| <constrictor> what is leatherman multi-too Gazzak? | |
| <GazzaK> I wonder.... | |
| <GazzaK> constrictor, http://www.arcellaschi.com/Leatherman/Wave.JPG | |
| <DaveMorris> sfw? | |
| <GazzaK> yes, suitable for work | |
| <GazzaK> it's not a man in leather!!! | |
| <constrictor> well Gazzak you can certainly hurt people with that | |
| <GazzaK> it is a tool, a piece of hardware | |
| <GazzaK> I'm sure I could | |
| * GazzaK ponders how | |
| <constrictor> get some ideas from the texas chainsaw massacre | |
| <gord> the 'texas leatherman massacre' almost works too | |
| <constrictor> yeah | |
| <DaveMorris> woot, I got -0 from my program | |
| <jamesbrose> Opera is so much faster then firefox :P | |
| <DaveMorris> zips up his flame suit | |
| <jamesbrose> eh? | |
| <DaveMorris> "Opera is so much faster then firefox :P" sounded as if you where gonna start flaming firefox | |
| <jamesbrose> hmm | |
| <jamesbrose> no firefox is good | |
| <jamesbrose> just opera is faster :P | |
| <gord> and epiphany beats all, quick enough, no huge xul ram footprint, nice and simple and free software. hurrarh | |
| <DaveMorris> and IE wins since it has the largest Market share | |
| <DaveMorris> *hides | |
| <jamesbrose> mmm | |
| * GazzaK is doing his FIRST EVER ubuntu install for a customer | |
| <jamesbrose> wow! | |
| <jamesbrose> yay | |
| <GazzaK> what username and password shall I use? | |
| <DaveMorris> you must be confident if your starting it 5 mins before home imt | |
| <DaveMorris> *time | |
| <GazzaK> DaveMorris, I'll leave it going | |
| <DaveMorris> does it matter about the u/p, you can always change it once its setup to their prefs | |
| <GazzaK> do you think a username of ubuntu, password of ubuntu is good enough? it's only a kids home use laptop | |
| <GazzaK> i'll probably set it to auto login too, I know it's bad, but these are kids | |
| <DaveMorris> sounds good enough, as I assume ssh won't be turned on | |
| <GazzaK> it's not by default is it? | |
| <DaveMorris> not the server | |
| <GazzaK> it's gonna be a totally boring edgy install, with restricted formats run through and thats it | |
| <GazzaK> and I finish at 5:30pm (but might leave late as traffic will be a pain tonight) | |
| <GazzaK> blimey, this laptop is noisy (fan) | |
| <DaveMorris> traffic looks awful, been an accicdent on one road so the other road is now grid locked | |
| <popey> GazzaK: you going to install flash, java etc? | |
| <popey> make sure you setup sun java | |
| <GazzaK> yep & yep | |
| <GazzaK> it's sooo slow | |
| * GazzaK is thinking of using hammer | |
| <norf> eyup | |
| <GazzaK> damnit, it has hardly any ram | |
| <GazzaK> i'll need the ALT cd | |
| <GazzaK> right, i'm off home, I wonder if BT have got my dsl working yet | |
| <jamesbrose> *back* | |
| <jamesbrose> :] | |
| <mmedland> evening all | |
| <jamesbrose> Evening | |
| <jamesbrose> anybody know how to take a screenshot of just one window? | |
| <jamesbrose> some key combination.. | |
| <jamesbrose> can't remember it | |
| <jamesbrose> ah alt | |
| *** mmedland is now known as medders | |
| <X3N_> Is there a way to get cp to be less senstive | |
| <chaddy> how do you mean, X3N_? | |
| <X3N_> quite a few of my directories have weird characters like ":,[, ," in them which are stopping it from backing up | |
| <chaddy> what error does it throw? | |
| <X3N_> "cp: cannot create directory" or "cp: cannot create file" | |
| <chaddy> the only one I can see in man cp is -f, tried it? | |
| <X3N_> mm don't think that would help | |
| <X3N_> sheesh my typing is way off today | |
| <X3N_> backspace is doing over time | |
| <chaddy> hmm, xargs | |
| <X3N_> hello nik | |
| *** X3N_ is now known as X3N | |
| <Seeker`> lo | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hey X3n. .sory I came online and then a call came in | |
| <jamesbrose> Helllo all | |
| <tito_linux> Hi | |
| <X3N_> s'alright i was bust dissconnecting and connecting again | |
| <X3N_> *busy | |
| <tito_linux> If anyone's up for a laugh, check out this conversation with an American I just had http://www.titonia.com/~el.presidente/weatherboy33.html | |
| <X3N_> anyone running bleeding edge ubuntu ? | |
| <tito_linux> Edgy here | |
| <X3N_> that's got "edge" in it.. doesn't quite count :P | |
| <jamesbrose> edgy here | |
| <jamesbrose> :P | |
| * X3N_ rolls eyes | |
| <tito_linux> :) You mean Feisty? | |
| *** X3N_ is now known as X3N | |
| <LoudMouthMan> I cut my finger on a CD , is that bleeding edge enough ? | |
| <X3N> I'll take the answer to my original question to be no then ;) | |
| <tsmithe> X3N, i'm on feisty | |
| <tsmithe> what do you want? | |
| <X3N> are you uptodate ? | |
| <X3N> if so can you let me know what you think of the glossy theme that should now be in the gnome theme manager | |
| * tsmithe opens the new, terrible, terrible, gnome control centre from slab that has replaced the prefs/admin menus :( | |
| <tsmithe> and runs gnome-theme-manager | |
| <tsmithe> X3N, it's like ubuntulooks metacity, with a blue ubuntulooks gtk set, and gnome icons | |
| <tsmithe> i don't particularly like it | |
| <LoudMouthMan> hehe .. Ubuntu 1 , Windows Xp 0 in solving whats up with a computer on a remote support call. Net result some driver is borked and not unwinding ! | |
| <norf-ubu_> mornin | |
| <tsmithe> 'lo | |
| <tito_linux> Hi | |
| <tsurc> popey. Got Feisty running at home. Thats what I'm on now. starts up really quick. ;) | |
| <X3N> I'm not so keen on the control-center thing either | |
| <tsurc> neither am i | |
| <tsmithe> it just means extra click! | |
| <tsmithe> *clicks | |
| <tsurc> like the look, just shame its not split into sys admin and user admin tasks | |
| <tsurc> system wide changes, user changes. | |
| <tsurc> mainly after the ltsp stuff though. | |
| <tsurc> shame its not installable yet | |
| <X3N> reminds me of http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-6.2-Manual/getting-started-guide/figs/customizing/gbackground.gif | |
| <tsurc> they should do polls on this kind of change. see what the majority like.... and if there is enough interest in a significant other, providing that as an option. | |
| <X3N> my brother is actually one of the key developers of gnome control center | |
| <mdke> gnome control center is the best thing to happen to Gnome in the last two release cycles at least, IMO | |
| <mdke> was well overdue | |
| <X3N> there always used to be a gnome-control center | |
| <mdke> right, but not by default | |
| <X3N> yes | |
| * mdke isn't sure if X3N is agreeing with him or disagreeing | |
| <X3N> disagreeing | |
| <medders> i'd agree with mdke, i think it's good step forward to get our preferences stuff looking good | |
| <medders> it makes ubuntu seem more commerciallly acceptable | |
| <medders> (i used to be mmedland if anyone hadn't notcied) | |
| <mdke> X3N: you're disagreeing it wasn't there by default? | |
| <X3N> it is good for new users etc, but for people like me it's an extra stop to what we're used to | |
| <medders> X3N: true, but now ubuntu is mainly aiming at new users isn't it | |
| <mdke> that menu was an absolute usability nightmare | |
| <mdke> whether for experienced users or new users, it was impossible to find things | |
| <medders> i wouldn't say a nightmare, it just didn't look as slick and approachable as the new control center | |
| <X3N> gnome control center was in gnome 2.8 | |
| *** thefish_ is now known as thefish | |
| <X3N> looked like this http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-6.2-Manual/getting-started-guide/figs/customizin | |
| <X3N> g/gbackground.gif | |
| <X3N> bugger | |
| <medders> http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-6.2-Manual/getting-started-guide/figs/customizing/gbackground.gif ? | |
| <X3N> yeah | |
| <X3N> back in the days of gtk1 :) | |
| <medders> that just looks frightening though | |
| <medders> a bit too KDE for my tastes | |
| <X3N> it was taken out and replaced with the system menu | |
| <medders> the menu was better than the old control center, but the new control center beats them all (IMHO) | |
| * chaddy does update-manager -d to see what all the fuss is about | |
| <mdke> by miles, there is no possible doubt about it | |
| <mdke> they just need to sort a few categories out, then we'll be away | |
| <medders> thats for sure | |
| <X3N> I can see myself adding some of the prefferences/system settings that i use a lot to my own menu | |
| <X3N> other than that it's good | |
| <frederific> evening all | |
| <frederific> this xchat-gnome is much nicer than xchat | |
| <tito_linux> Evening, I might try xchat-gnome | |
| <tito_linux> Is it in the Ubuntu reps? | |
| <tito_linux> *repos? | |
| <frederific> yep | |
| <frederific> not sure which one though | |
| <medders> i thought it was in main | |
| <medders> though i might be wrong | |
| <tsmithe> mdke, did you see! my latest emails have all been nice and pointy | |
| <frederific> so, has anyone had any problems with this lovely weather we've been having? | |
| <tsmithe> frederific, yup | |
| <mdke> tsmithe: not yet, but I appreciate it | |
| <apokryphos> crazy wind | |
| <tsmithe> cool | |
| <tsmithe> i was delayed 2 hours coming home from school | |
| <frederific> wow | |
| <apokryphos> heard someone died from a tipped-over lorry, but haven't seen the article :( | |
| <tsurc> yup, armilary smashed, green house broken and tiles off the roof. No power outages yet though | |
| <tsmithe> but i got a nice long chat with friends i hadn't seen for ages, so i was happy | |
| <tsmithe> tsurc, we had power outages | |
| <tsmithe> but then i live in the middle of nowhere | |
| <apokryphos> only ever had one power outage in 12 years in London :P | |
| <frederific> when I was coming home, the roads were EMPTY, but my sister took an extra 2 hours to get home from college | |
| <tsurc> I live on the edge of nowhere nr Skeg | |
| <tsmithe> edge of nowhere? :) | |
| <frederific> as soon as I heard (yesterday) about the possibilty of power outages today, out of the box the UPS came :D | |
| <tsmithe> :) | |
| <tsmithe> my server went down | |
| <tsmithe> and thus my bip proxy! | |
| <tsmithe> noes! | |
| <tsmithe> !bip | |
| <ubotu> bip: multiuser irc proxy with conversation replay and more. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.2-1 (edgy), package size 56 kB, installed size 188 kB | |
| <tsmithe> (for all who don't know) | |
| <tsurc> for some, Skeg IS nowhere! | |
| * tsmithe wonders if the corrugated iron came off the cold store | |
| * apokryphos wonders where Skeg is | |
| * medders wonders if it is somewhere near ness | |
| <tsurc> ness indeed on the east coast for those who don't | |
| <Bjwebb> hi toby | |
| <Bjwebb> and freddie | |
| <tsmithe> hi Bjwebb | |
| <Bjwebb> hi | |
| <Bjwebb> thanks for the link btw | |
| <tsmithe> Bjwebb, hmm? | |
| <X3N> is Jonathan Davies here ? | |
| <mdke> no | |
| <frederific> hello Bjwebb | |
| <Bjwebb> hi | |
| <medders> see you all tomorrow | |
| <medders> night | |
| <frederific> cya | |
| <frederific> actually, I'd better be off too | |
| <frederific> night all |
