| <mypapit_> hey toydi | |
| <mypapit_> toydi: irc conn has been sucky to me | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: hey | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: in campus? yesterday u kept dc | |
| <mypapit_> toydi: yeah | |
| <mypapit_> not so goood | |
| <mypapit_> internet connection is sucky here | |
| <mypapit_> for irc | |
| <mypapit_> lol | |
| <mypapit_> web seems to be fine | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: uum sys admin hates irc? lol | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: u said you were writing presentation for feedcreator, do you have a link? | |
| <mypapit_> no not yet | |
| <mypapit_> in process | |
| <mypapit_> toydi: seems more people are pressuring for SVN updates lol | |
| <mypapit_> they seems eager to test new revision as they expect to fix few bugs | |
| <toydi> haha, u have to work harder | |
| <mypapit_> yeah bunch of eager ppl | |
| <mypapit_> and worst of all, some people expect certain improvement | |
| <mypapit_> like the dude that publish song/podcast expect to add xspf playlist | |
| <toydi> xspf, ah, new to me! | |
| <mypapit_> and joomla dudes wants some improvement in atom | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: what's the diff from rss podcast extension | |
| <mypapit_> and another dude works with phpgedview wants multiple enclosures support | |
| <mypapit_> toydi: xspf = more like m3u,pls playlist.. and is supported by wider music player | |
| <toydi> i see | |
| <mypapit_> rss podcast seems to store podcast shows which is often long | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: so u are working alone in feedcreator? | |
| <mypapit_> toydi: yeah :p | |
| <toydi> wah, that's not easy | |
| <mypapit_> toydi: nobody wants to work on it, even the one who wrote the original code | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: wtf, lol | |
| <mypapit_> toydi: you can read my blog how they use to badger me to provide bug fix and stuff | |
| <mypapit_> http://blog.mypapit.net/category/feedcreator | |
| <mypapit_> >100 comments lol | |
| <mypapit_> not counting mails and bug report | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: haha, i read. yeah they really utilize the comments | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: btw, you are writing ATOM based on version 1.0? | |
| <mypapit_> yeah | |
| <mypapit_> i integrate it into feedcreator, the latest one support almost all atom tags | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: cool | |
| <mypapit_> one of it is <contributor> tags | |
| <mypapit_> cause nobody really bother about it (or even know that it exists) | |
| <mypapit_> lol | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: i guess i will need it soon | |
| <toydi> want to try the atom publishing protocol | |
| <mypapit_> toydi: as far as i work with feedcreator, i find atom 1.0 is much more descriptive, it has tags for every situation | |
| <mypapit_> rss is abit "cowboy"-style | |
| <mypapit_> lol | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: i see. yaya, i heard atom is extensible too | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: if i have time, wish to make the tagging system run on atom pub protocol | |
| <mypapit_> ic | |
| <mypapit_> the challenge is now to encourage ppl to use atom, especially in podcast.. because atom support multiple enclosure and don't have to rely on non-standard itunes: namespace | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: ah, i see. that's the use of enclosure in podcast? | |
| <mypapit_> toydi: yes.. actually podcast is just a buzzword | |
| <mypapit_> toydi: the read 'podcast' is rss feeds with <enclosure> which points to the intended file | |
| <mypapit_> lol | |
| <mypapit_> and it doesnt have to be mp3, it can be anything | |
| <mypapit_> it's like attaching file to the email | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: attaching link's of the file to the email | |
| <mypapit_> yeah | |
| <mypapit_> podcast is just another marketing buzzword lol | |
| <mypapit_> however rss feeds is limited to one enclosure.. atom feeds can have multiple enclosures | |
| <mypapit_> so one atom feeds is enough to distribute high,medium and low quality mp3 file (for podcast show) | |
| <mypapit_> rss feeds need 3 | |
| <mypapit_> so it's kinda annoying | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: i see. how client identify the differences of multiple enclosure? manually? | |
| <mypapit_> toydi: mimetype | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: what about high, medium, low u mentioned | |
| <mypapit_> toydi: title tags, mimetype | |
| <mypapit_> <link rel="enclosure" type="audio/mpeg" title="low quality mp3" href="http://somemp3url.com/show.mp3" /> | |
| <mypapit_> client will present choices by title type | |
| <mypapit_> so it knows what file to download | |
| <mypapit_> so **the users* knows what file to download, and the client will remember the option | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: you mean the keywords in title "low quality mp3" is understood by human, not the client? | |
| <mypapit_> yeah | |
| <toydi> mypapit_: it would be cool if ppl agree on the keyword | |
| <toydi> <link rel="enclosure quality-low" type="audio/mpeg" title="low quality mp3" href="http://somemp3url.com/show.mp3" /> | |
| <toydi> and we can program the client to identify tag: "quality-low" | |
| <mypapit__> toydi: yeah pretty hard to do that | |
| <toydi> mypapit__: hmm, why? | |
| <mypapit__> lol | |
| *** mypapit__ is now known as papit | |
| <papit> toydi: one of the sources ppl keep badgering me | |
| <papit> brb | |
| <toydi> ok | |
| <papit> keke | |
| <papit> toydi: coz ppl want an all around solutions to publishing feeds easily | |
| <toydi> papit: ah, just make sure it works | |
| <papit> doing that manually (custom made with their website) takes time, and the feeds (especially atom, because its complex) wont validate easily | |
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