| *** Pengo|Xchat is now known as Hit3k | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Howdy. | |
| <adhoc> evenen =) | |
| <adhoc> room change! | |
| <adhoc> right, that was some queue | |
| <merlin-linux> hiho all | |
| <harrisony> morning | |
| <adhoc> hi | |
| <merlin-linux> how are we all? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Anyone here use WengoPhone? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Does GAIM do VoIP/SIP? | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> siccness: Where is everyone? | |
| <purserj> Davo_Dinkum: No it doesn't | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Wow someone is here | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I'm trying to get WengoPhone working but it keeps giving me a 'fatal error'. | |
| <merlin-linux> 12:55:40 up 99 days, 58 min, 0 users, load average: 0.97, 0.68, 0.33 | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I might need to forward port 5060 on my router. | |
| <merlin-linux> and now have to reboot it | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> purserj: Any ideas? | |
| <purserj> Davo_Dinkum: a lot of us are at LCA so may not be able to answer straight away | |
| * Davo_Dinkum sighs | |
| <purserj> And yes you will need to port forward 5060 to your desktop | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> I have no idea how to do that with OpenWRT :( | |
| *** merlin_the_great is now known as merlin-linux | |
| <Davo_Dinkum> Bye! | |
| * siccness whistles | |
| <merlin-linux> hiho siccness | |
| <siccness> Hey | |
| <merlin-linux> damn updates | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <merlin-linux> i had to restart my firewall / gateway / router after 99 day uptime cause of damn updates | |
| <siccness> melb aint hot today :| | |
| <merlin-linux> it 25C here | |
| <siccness> same here | |
| <merlin-linux> it was near 40C yesterday | |
| <siccness> Was 41 here yesterday | |
| <merlin-linux> damn weather its stupid | |
| <siccness> Heh yeah it sucks | |
| <TheMuso> Funny how Melb is getting it, and Sydney is getting really pleasant weather atm. | |
| <merlin-linux> it funny the melbourne had similar temp to us here in adelaide | |
| <merlin-linux> s/the/that | |
| <siccness> merlin-linux: it's unusual tho, we usually have the exact same weather as you do only 24 hours later | |
| <siccness> this time it's more just a lucky co-incidence. | |
| <siccness> s/-// | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: but the same day | |
| <siccness> no lca for me at all | |
| <siccness> cant make openday now :| | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: damn | |
| <siccness> 08 is still a go-er tho | |
| <Hit3k> siccness, you know alot about fstab? | |
| *** manicka_ is now known as manicka | |
| <Hit3k> now i have no sound | |
| <siccness> Bahaha | |
| <siccness> I know a little bit about fstab, why? | |
| <Hit3k> it doesnt matter now | |
| <Hit3k> that problem has been eliminated | |
| <Hit3k> this one hasnt | |
| <siccness> Sound problem hey | |
| <Hit3k> yes all because i removed kernel 2.6.18 | |
| <siccness> Well, what kernel options have you set? | |
| <Hit3k> bah none i didnt compile the kernel | |
| <Hit3k> it was working fine until i decided to remove it cause it lagged everything | |
| <siccness> You have two options for ALSA really.. | |
| <siccness> Either use alsadriver or kernel alsa | |
| <siccness> I use the latter | |
| <Hit3k> yeah | |
| <siccness> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (M); Sequencer Support (M), OSS Mixer API (M), OSS PCM (digital audio) API (M) | |
| <siccness> Select your sound card (build as (M) - could be under ISA, PCI or USB) | |
| <Hit3k> I'll return | |
| <Hit3k> sounds back!!!!!! | |
| <siccness> what was the reason? | |
| <Hit3k> 2.6.18 kernel module | |
| <siccness> hehe | |
| <Hit3k> so i went to 2.4.33 till i can be stuffed sorting it all out | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <siccness> Did 2.4.33 have SATA Support? | |
| <siccness> .26 didn't | |
| <Daemon> 2.4, wasn't that from the 80's? :P | |
| <Daemon> seems so long ago | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Cyvros> Hiya, MistaED. | |
| <MistaED> hey | |
| <Cyvros> Hiya, Hobbsee. | |
| <Hobbsee> hey Cyvros | |
| <s1mple_m4n> evening all. question: i once had a nautilus script that converted .flv files from youtube to .avi/.mpg. unfortunately i had to reinstall dapper and cannot find it again. i have searched ubuntu forums with no luck. can anyone help?? | |
| * siccness whistles | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: Howdy. | |
| <siccness> Hey mate. | |
| <Cyvros> Eat this! | |
| * Cyvros gives siccness a tea cake. | |
| <siccness> Eww | |
| <siccness> <--Hates cake | |
| <Cyvros> Muahaha! | |
| * Cyvros fidgets. | |
| <Cyvros> So, how're you? | |
| <siccness> Good mate, yourself? | |
| <Cyvros> Pretty good, thanks. | |
| <Cyvros> Just waiting for Wolvix to d/l then I'm going to put it on my new 1 gig flash. | |
| <siccness> whats that? | |
| <Cyvros> I bought a new one from Officeworks and swapped it with Mum's - both 1 gig (and she never used it, anyway). She just didn't like the cover on her old one. | |
| <Cyvros> Distro. | |
| <Cyvros> http://wolvix.org | |
| <Cyvros> Chap called wolfix or something like that recommended it to me the other day in this room. | |
| <siccness> Hmm | |
| <Cyvros> It looks neat and it can sit on a flash. | |
| <siccness> What package management is it? | |
| <siccness> Source by the look of things | |
| <siccness> As per the Apache project's recommendations, apache 1.3.x is referred to as "apache", while apache 2.x is referred to as "httpd" <--Hmm :| | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: No idea. | |
| <Cyvros> Source? | |
| <Cyvros> I think it uses packages or modules or something. | |
| <Cyvros> My b/w's taking a hit, so pages are taking ages to load. | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: .TGZ files | |
| <siccness> Source distro | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: Dammit. | |
| <Cyvros> Ah well. | |
| <Cyvros> I'll try it anyway. | |
| <siccness> You might as well give Ge?too a try then :P | |
| <Cyvros> LOL. | |
| <Cyvros> The evil one's too big. :P | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <siccness> I wanna give this a shot, build applications onto the RAM | |
| <siccness> I'd have to re-compile every time I rebooted tho :| | |
| <Cyvros> LOL. | |
| <Cyvros> The GIMP's killing my computer! :D | |
| <siccness> scrot ftw! | |
| <siccness> (has nothing to do with GIMP, sorry) | |
| <Cyvros> LOL. | |
| <siccness> Big MatthewV ! | |
| <MatthewV> big Sicc! | |
| <MatthewV> hey there | |
| <siccness> how are ya? | |
| <MatthewV> siccness, great thanks... today i counted locusts as part of work experience ;) | |
| <MatthewV> what about you? | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> today i found out the meaning of life | |
| <MatthewV> siccness, did you use a dictionary? | |
| <siccness> Haha :P | |
| <siccness> it's quite nice with no one here | |
| <siccness> i get to spend time focusing on linux rather than chatting away here | |
| * MatthewV rolls his eyes ;) | |
| <siccness> ;-) | |
| <MatthewV> siccness, i just popped up in #ubuntu-doc | |
| <MatthewV> and apparently there's too many Matthews in there... :-S | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <MatthewV> anyway, catcha, i've gtg and eat... | |
| <MatthewV> hot dogs.. | |
| * MatthewV drools | |
| <siccness> Catch :P | |
| <MatthewV> siccness, too late to see anything | |
| <MatthewV> here's what tonyyarruso said | |
| <siccness> Clearly a boring channel ;P | |
| <MatthewV> <mpt> Uh oh, it's another Matthew | |
| <MatthewV> * tyabux (n=joerlend@237-191.dsl.freewave.no) has joined #Ubuntu-doc | |
| <MatthewV> <tonyyarusso> aaaaaah | |
| <MatthewV> <tonyyarusso> I'm going to start making up names for you people. | |
| <MatthewV> <tonyyarusso> MatthewV: You are henceforth James. | |
| <MatthewV> <MatthewV> tonyyarusso, uh, thanks | |
| <MatthewV> catch | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Hit3k> gonna irc from emacs. | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <siccness> emacs | |
| <siccness> an OS! | |
| <Changlinn> without a decent text editor | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| * MatthewV rolls back in | |
| <Hit3k> whats freenodes view on clones? | |
| <siccness> id say against it | |
| <Hit3k> for instance if i wanted to be here and on my laptop at the same time yet still irc | |
| <Hit3k> ah ok | |
| <Hit3k> that sucks | |
| <MatthewV> Hit3k, check out freenode.net | |
| <siccness> read the guidelines | |
| <MatthewV> hi Phlosten | |
| <Phlosten> howdy all | |
| <Phlosten> i just accidentally trashed my wifes windows install, whoops | |
| <MatthewV> Phlosten, is that like whoops ;), or whoops :( | |
| <Phlosten> a bit of :( | |
| <Phlosten> no biggie tho | |
| <Phlosten> i just went to Ubuntu the second partition, and accidentally formatted the windows partition | |
| <Phlosten> she's always sneaking onto my machine to play the games | |
| <MatthewV> Hit3k, i cant find any mention of it on freenode.net | |
| <Hit3k> neither can i | |
| <Hit3k> oh well | |
| <Phlosten> mention of what? | |
| <siccness> Hit3k: Visit the freenode help channel | |
| <MatthewV> Phlosten, <Hit3k> whats freenodes view on clones? | |
| <Cyvros> Hmmm... Gaim died on me. | |
| * Cyvros wanders off. | |
| <Cyvros> Hiya, MummyLUG. | |
| <siccness> Heh, MummyLUG. :D | |
| <MistaED> honestly, who the hell uses motif still which is not autodesk? | |
| <MistaED> new maya 8.5 still uses it, :( | |
| * siccness nods in agreement, without knowing what MistaED's talking about :) | |
| <MistaED> hehe, y'know those old clunky unix interfaces like CDE? they used motif, and it looks and works terribly under linux :( | |
| <Daemon> many programs still use motif | |
| <Daemon> not the cheap ones either | |
| <MistaED> i wish autodesk would port it to Qt | |
| <Daemon> gtk would be better :) | |
| <siccness> Ahh yeah | |
| <siccness> ncurses :D | |
| <MistaED> i dunno, is gtk stable enough? the default icon buttons would look massive under maya | |
| <MistaED> i guess still, it would be much better than motif :) | |
| <Daemon> just use blender, problem solved :) | |
| <MistaED> can ncurses handle opengl planes though? hehe | |
| <Cyvros> I love Mark Shuttleworth. http://markshuttleworth.com/archives/77 | |
| <siccness> 59 minutes to finish one set :| | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: LOL. | |
| <siccness> This is a joke. | |
| <Cyvros> What match is it? | |
| <siccness> Not even Test cricket goes this long :| | |
| <siccness> France guy vs that guy from Cyprus | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <Cyvros> Oh, Baghdatis? | |
| <Cyvros> Is that how you spell it? | |
| <Cyvros> Marcos Baghdatis, IIRC. | |
| <siccness> Beats me man | |
| <Cyvros> Hehehe. | |
| <siccness> Davo_Dinkum would know | |
| <siccness> He's in love with him | |
| <Cyvros> One moment, please. | |
| <Cyvros> God, that's one heavy website. | |
| <Cyvros> Awesome. Live IBM Scoreboard. | |
| <siccness> which site is that? | |
| <Cyvros> Australian Open. | |
| <siccness> heh | |
| <siccness> i was tryna find the hot tennis girls there before | |
| <Cyvros> Marco Baghdatis versus G. Monfils. | |
| <Cyvros> LOL. | |
| <Cyvros> Hey, siccness, do you know if it's possible to host a website from home? | |
| <siccness> of course | |
| <siccness> you just need a htppd | |
| <siccness> *httpd | |
| <siccness> such as apache | |
| <Cyvros> Do I need a server or something like that? | |
| <siccness> it is a server really | |
| <siccness> apt-get install apache (might be apache2 -- i dunno about ubuntu/debian packaging) | |
| <Cyvros> Okay. | |
| <Cyvros> And I assume I'd need to have my computer and router on all the time, too. | |
| <siccness> then, mkdir ~/public_html | |
| <siccness> which will make a public_html directory in your home account | |
| <siccness> place all the files in there | |
| <siccness> and access it: http://IP/~username/ | |
| <henno> Cyvros: you will also need your port 80 inbound not to be blocked by your ISP and/or firewall | |
| <siccness> That too. | |
| <Cyvros> henno: Okay. | |
| <henno> although there are ways around that anyway | |
| <siccness> There are lighter alternatives to apache however. | |
| <henno> if it is just a muck-around website, then it won't matter what port you serve it on | |
| <siccness> Which you're able to find using one of those ubuntu gui add software tools | |
| * henno look to lighttpd | |
| <Cyvros> henno: Ah, that's a relief. | |
| <Cyvros> lighttpd? | |
| * Cyvros googles. | |
| <siccness> Basically it's a light-weight httpd | |
| <Cyvros> Hehehe. Thanks. D: | |
| <Cyvros> :D* | |
| <siccness> d stands for daemon | |
| <siccness> such as: sshd | |
| <siccness> ssh-daemon | |
| <siccness> if you didn't already know | |
| <henno> and unless you are serving a lot of static files to a lot of cuncurrent connections, it will not really matter which httpd you choose | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: Ah, okay. | |
| <Cyvros> henno: Okay. | |
| <Cyvros> Incidentally, how would I find out my IP address? | |
| <Cyvros> Something like, say, ipconfig? | |
| <henno> are you NAT'd | |
| <henno> ? | |
| <henno> or direct connection | |
| <Cyvros> NAT'd? | |
| <henno> ie.. behind a router of some sort | |
| <Cyvros> I'm on a LAN, if that helps. | |
| <Cyvros> Yeah. | |
| <Cyvros> Router plugged to hub plugged to me. | |
| <siccness> sweet, sister didnt finish her pizza :D | |
| <henno> then ifconfig is only going to display your local IP | |
| <henno> which is fine | |
| <Cyvros> Basically using the hub as an extension link. :D | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: Hehehe. | |
| <Cyvros> henno: I only mentioned ipconfig because it's what I used to use in XP. | |
| <siccness> mind you i coulda made a better pizza using a dead rat | |
| <henno> you will also need to forward the web port to your local IP (and ensure your local IP is static) | |
| <henno> Cyvros: it is ifconfig in linux | |
| <siccness> although you shouldn't really compare ipconfig and ifconfig together | |
| <henno> well, on the surface they do serve a similar task. | |
| <henno> it is just that one is good, and one isn't | |
| <henno> :] | |
| <Cyvros> LOL. | |
| <Cyvros> Now, IIRC, my IP address starts with 25 something. | |
| <Cyvros> I haven't seen it for a couple of months now, though. | |
| <henno> your IP is 210.10.236.189 | |
| <Cyvros> Thanks. | |
| <siccness> I think I eat too much :| | |
| <henno> look down. | |
| <Cyvros> LOL. | |
| <Cyvros> Wanna hear about my breakfast yesterday? | |
| <henno> if you can't see your dick, you do | |
| <siccness> henno: hahaha | |
| <Cyvros> henno: LOL. | |
| <siccness> they don't call me 'big sicc' for no reason fellas :P | |
| <Cyvros> LOL. | |
| <Cyvros> So, er, how do I actually use Apache? | |
| <Cyvros> Actually, on second thoughts... | |
| <Cyvros> BRB. | |
| <siccness> Has apache been started? | |
| <Cyvros> I tried the command apache2 and it just crashed, basically. | |
| <henno> Cyvros: /etc/init.d/apache start | |
| <Cyvros> Oh. | |
| <siccness> it'a service | |
| <henno> it might be apache2 | |
| <Cyvros> I got an error. | |
| <henno> and the error was | |
| <siccness> Error is? | |
| <Cyvros> Hang on... can't find any copy/paste function in urxvt. | |
| <Cyvros> It's your fault, siccness. | |
| <siccness> you select the text you wish to copy | |
| <henno> shift+ins | |
| <siccness> no need for commands | |
| <Cyvros> chown: changing ownership of '/var/lock/apache2': Operation not permitted | |
| <siccness> commands == keys | |
| <henno> or middle-click | |
| <siccness> sudo | |
| <siccness> sudo /etc/init.d/apache start | |
| <henno> ah yeah.. ubuntu's sudo crap | |
| <siccness> Heh | |
| <Cyvros> henno: LOL. | |
| <Cyvros> Thanks. | |
| <siccness> It is, it's crap. | |
| <Cyvros> It's already running, apparently. | |
| <siccness> ok | |
| <siccness> so go to: http://YOURIP/ | |
| <siccness> in your browswer | |
| <siccness> it should load up an Apache default page | |
| <Cyvros> It needs authorisation. | |
| <henno> actually, you might not be able to access using your external IP | |
| <henno> try http://localhost/ | |
| <siccness> try this: http://localhost/ | |
| <siccness> Heh | |
| <Cyvros> Gotcha! | |
| <siccness> now quickly do: mkdir ~/public_html | |
| <siccness> cd ~/public_html | |
| <siccness> echo "hello" > index.html | |
| <siccness> then try: http://localhost/~yourusername | |
| <henno> and cheer! | |
| <siccness> if it doesnt work, then it might need configuring, but im pretty sure ubuntu does all this shit for ya. | |
| <siccness> You may also wish to install php4/5 and mysql | |
| <siccness> or postgresql | |
| <Cyvros> Thanks, sicc. | |
| <Cyvros> I don't have permission to go there. | |
| <Cyvros> <_< | |
| <siccness> to go where? | |
| <Cyvros> You don't have permission to access /~jordn on this server. | |
| <siccness> to ~yourusername | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Cyvros> Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. | |
| <siccness> use the chmod command | |
| <Cyvros> chmod for the folder? | |
| <siccness> you got it. | |
| <Cyvros> chmod ~/public_html jordn or something like that? | |
| <siccness> no.. | |
| <henno> hmm.. the folder should already be 755.. that should be enough for apache to get in there | |
| <siccness> chmod 755 ~/public_html | |
| <Cyvros> Ah. | |
| <siccness> btw, ~ is /home/yourusername/ | |
| <Cyvros> Nope, no worky. | |
| <Cyvros> Yup. | |
| <siccness> ok try | |
| <siccness> chmod 777 ~/public_html | |
| <henno> this is not going to work | |
| <Cyvros> Uh oh. | |
| <Cyvros> My duck's swimming upside down. | |
| <henno> 777 should make no difference | |
| <Cyvros> Didn't work. | |
| <henno> told ya | |
| <Cyvros> LOL. | |
| <siccness> Hmm-age. | |
| <Cyvros> I feel so unnecessarily newby. | |
| <henno> you might need to configure the userdir section of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: don't. I just presumed ubuntu configured this shit for ya | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: LOL. | |
| <henno> Cyvros: are you familiar with vim? | |
| <henno> actually | |
| <Cyvros> henno: Nope, I use Gedit and, if I can be bothered, Nano. | |
| <henno> do you use ubuntu? | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: Atleast when you're forced to configure your own files, you learn something. | |
| <henno> ok | |
| <Cyvros> henno: Yeah. I'm in the Ubuntu room. :D | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: True, true. | |
| <henno> gksudo gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf | |
| <Cyvros> I'm in the file and I've found the userdir section. | |
| <henno> then search for public_html | |
| <Cyvros> At least what I assume is the section. | |
| <henno> uncomment that shit | |
| <Cyvros> Only it's kinda #'d off. | |
| <Cyvros> Ah. | |
| <Cyvros> Done. | |
| <henno> then save it | |
| <henno> and | |
| <Cyvros> Done, closed, refreshed. No worky. | |
| <Cyvros> Maybe I'm missing something. | |
| * Cyvros is too impatient. | |
| <siccness> ok | |
| <henno> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload | |
| * Cyvros fidgets. | |
| <Cyvros> Uh oh. | |
| <Cyvros> Hang on. | |
| * henno hangs on | |
| <Cyvros> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName | |
| <henno> that is fine | |
| <Cyvros> That was repeated. | |
| <henno> not a problem | |
| <Cyvros> Then it said [ ok ] in that cool way. :D | |
| <henno> then try your userdir again | |
| <Cyvros> Anything more I have to do? Refreshed no worky. | |
| <Cyvros> Hang on. | |
| <henno> and don't forget to chmod it back to 755 | |
| <Cyvros> I'll try something different. | |
| <Cyvros> Ah, okay. | |
| <Cyvros> Changed back. Didn't work. | |
| <henno> just to make sure, you uncommented the few lines that started... | |
| <henno> <Directory /home/*/public_html> | |
| <henno> and ended like | |
| <Cyvros> Whoops. | |
| <Cyvros> Only uncommented one line. | |
| <henno> </Directory> | |
| <henno> should be around 4 -8 lines | |
| * henno doesn't use ubuntu obviously | |
| <Cyvros> Hehehe, whoops. | |
| <Cyvros> I uncommented a comment. | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <henno> buddy buddy buddy | |
| <henno> you need to slow down and think before you act :) | |
| <Cyvros> LOL. | |
| * Cyvros twitches. | |
| <Cyvros> Still no worky. | |
| <henno> impatience will get you no-where | |
| * siccness wonders if -D USERDIR is appended in the apache2 file | |
| <Cyvros> I did the reload and chmod to 755. | |
| <henno> you have to reload apache again | |
| <Cyvros> Still didn't work. | |
| <henno> try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart | |
| <Cyvros> chmod again? | |
| <henno> nah nah | |
| <Cyvros> Didn't work. | |
| <siccness> What are your APACHE2_OPTS? | |
| <Cyvros> I might've stuffed up the conf file, actually. | |
| <henno> impossible | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: My what? | |
| <henno> you are only uncommenting | |
| <Cyvros> henno: Believe me, I can uncomment the uncommentable. | |
| <siccness> Try and find your apache2 file | |
| <siccness> there's a variable that exists in it called | |
| <siccness> APACHE2_OPTS | |
| <siccness> which requires to have -D USERDIR appended to it | |
| <siccness> for it to work. | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: Is that in apache2.conf? | |
| <siccness> possibly | |
| <Cyvros> Just checked. It isn't there. | |
| <Cyvros> http.d? ports.conf? | |
| <Cyvros> Hmm... not there. | |
| * Cyvros googles. | |
| <siccness> what apache file are you configuring? | |
| <siccness> /etc/conf.d/apache2? | |
| <Cyvros> That's the one. | |
| <Cyvros> Or not, in fact. | |
| <siccness> cd: /etc/conf.d/ | |
| <siccness> dir | |
| <siccness> is apache2 there? | |
| * henno thinks siccness uses gentoo | |
| <siccness> i do | |
| <siccness> doesn't ubuntu have the same thing? | |
| <henno> gentoo runs it's own race | |
| <henno> does it's own thing | |
| <siccness> yes | |
| <siccness> but i just assumed that the conf file locations would be very similar | |
| <henno> there is no APACHE2_OPTS in any of my conf files in slackware or debian | |
| <Cyvros> Can't find it. | |
| <Cyvros> Googled it and all that comes up is Gentoo. | |
| <siccness> Hmm | |
| <siccness> Valid point | |
| <siccness> That sucks dick. | |
| <siccness> I'm of no use to you then. | |
| <SuPeRhAm> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-Life-for-Sale_W0QQitemZ110078904033QQihZ001QQcategoryZ324QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem | |
| <SuPeRhAm> O_o | |
| <siccness> SuPeRhAm: Hahaha | |
| <SuPeRhAm> what will they sell on ebay next :/ | |
| <Cyvros> I'm going to try lighttpd. | |
| <Cyvros> !lighttpd | |
| <ubotu> lighttpd: A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.13~r1370-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 288 kB, installed size 852 kB | |
| <Cyvros> Awesome! lighttpd worked straight away. | |
| <henno> Cyvros: did you uninstall apache2? | |
| <henno> I sure hope so | |
| <henno> and I know how to get apache to work now | |
| <henno> for those idling in the channel, you just need to enable the module | |
| <henno> sudo a2enmod userdir | |
| <henno> and probably recomment all that stuff Cyvros uncommented before | |
| <Cyvros> henno: No. Just kill -9d it. | |
| <Cyvros> I'll uninstall it. | |
| <henno> well, it will start up again next reboot | |
| <Cyvros> Okay. | |
| <Cyvros> Really? | |
| <siccness> Resulting to another application isn't exactly the best solution :P | |
| <Cyvros> Hehehe. | |
| <henno> especially since I just figured out the ubuntu/apache2 way of doing things | |
| <henno> persistence | |
| <Cyvros> Damn. | |
| <Cyvros> Ah well, lighttpd seems to work. | |
| <siccness> Do you want php? | |
| <Cyvros> Damn, this sudo business is really getting on my nerves. | |
| <Cyvros> PHP? You mean it's safe to touch it? | |
| <siccness> Only install it if you need it | |
| * Cyvros is mortally-fearful of disastrously screwing-up. | |
| <siccness> Debian/Ubuntu provides a fastcgi enabled version. | |
| <Cyvros> I've got a feeling I don't quite need it at the moment. | |
| <siccness> | |
| <Cyvros> Ah. | |
| <siccness> # apt-get install php4-cgi | |
| <siccness> | |
| <siccness> If you're using php5-cgi, all you need is change your "bin-path" at your configuration (Debian uses /usr/bin/php4-cgi as default). | |
| <Cyvros> Uh oh. I think Gaim's killing itself on me. | |
| <siccness> ugh, that came out shittishy. /me clears | |
| <henno> time for bed | |
| <siccness> night | |
| * henno detaches | |
| <Cyvros> G'nite, henno. | |
| <Cyvros> Thanks. | |
| <Cyvros> Stupid sudo. | |
| <MatthewV> night all | |
| <Cyvros> G'nite, MatthewV. | |
| <MatthewV> thanks Cyvros | |
| <MatthewV> catcha all | |
| <siccness> Night | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: It isn't working. | |
| * Cyvros sobs. | |
| <siccness> you can always place the data in the root dir of the httpd | |
| <siccness> /var/www/localhost/htdocs | |
| <siccness> or something like that | |
| <Cyvros> Sorry, I didn't clarify my woes. I can get it from localhost, but I got a friend to try both my IP and IP/~username and neither worked. | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <siccness> this is the networking side of things | |
| <Cyvros> Ah. | |
| <siccness> this is what I'm supposed to be taught in TAFE | |
| <siccness> but I was never taught | |
| <Cyvros> Oh. | |
| <siccness> so I'm of complete uselessness to you | |
| <Cyvros> Uh huh. | |
| <siccness> hold up | |
| <siccness> http://124.191.214.110/ | |
| <siccness> Does that work? | |
| <Cyvros> Yeah. | |
| <siccness> http://124.191.214.110/~siccness <--try that | |
| <siccness> should get a mysql_connect error | |
| <Cyvros> Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) in /home/siccness/public_html/index.php on line 15 | |
| <Cyvros> Could not connect: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) | |
| <Cyvros> Yeah. | |
| <Cyvros> I'm using lighttpd, though. | |
| <siccness> I know. | |
| <siccness> That was just for me to see if mine worked :P | |
| <Cyvros> LOL. | |
| <Cyvros> Damn you! :P | |
| <Cyvros> http://ip-notes.com Hehehe. I can see where AAPT is. | |
| <Cyvros> Oh, good God. My ISP is near Innisfail. | |
| <Cyvros> How does that make sense? | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Cyvros> Dammit. | |
| <siccness> That's ok, mines next to Canberra Airport | |
| <Cyvros> So it might be this port 80 that's having troubles? | |
| <Cyvros> LOL. | |
| <siccness> Atleast you get somewhere half-decent | |
| <Cyvros> Do you know that there's only one LUG in the whole of Victoria? | |
| <siccness> I get stuck in the middle of the crappiest state/territory Australia has. | |
| <Cyvros> Hehehe. I like Canberra. | |
| <Cyvros> It's the national capital. | |
| <siccness> For reasons no one knows. | |
| <siccness> So they made up some crappy story about it being in between syd/melb | |
| <Cyvros> LOL. | |
| <Cyvros> I like it being in Canberra. | |
| <siccness> I'd rather it be Darwin | |
| <siccness> That way no one has to hear about it. | |
| <Cyvros> Just imagine if it were in Sydney. <_< | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: LOL. | |
| <merlin-linux> hiho all | |
| <Cyvros> Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to food I go! | |
| <Cyvros> Howdy, merlin-linux. | |
| <siccness> I'm off for now, (back at 3-4am) :P | |
| <Cyvros> Righteo, bye. | |
| <Cyvros> Have fun, whatever fiendish things you're doing. :D | |
| <Cyvros> Hiya, elkbuntu. | |
| <elkbuntu> hi | |
| <elkbuntu> for about an hour anyway. then i really need to go get some sleeps. I fell asleep in the upstart talk today :( | |
| <Cyvros> Upstart talk? | |
| <elkbuntu> the init replacement | |
| <Cyvros> Init replacement? | |
| <elkbuntu> im too tired to explain, so maybe you could google it :) | |
| <Cyvros> Okay. | |
| <elkbuntu> the only reason im on atm is to finish the 10 min LoCo talk im supposed to be giving tomorrow | |
| <Cyvros> Sorry. My mind's a bit mushy. | |
| <Cyvros> Oh. | |
| <Cyvros> I shan't disturb you, then. | |
| <Cyvros> WB, AlinuxOS. | |
| <elkbuntu> it's no problem, just expect nonsensical responses or palmoffs ;) | |
| <AlinuxOS> Cyvros, ;) | |
| <Cyvros> elkbuntu: Hehehe. | |
| <Hit3k> lonely | |
| <Cyvros> Filing. | |
| <Hit3k> think i might go to bed early tonight | |
| <Hit3k> good night all | |
| <Tatey> Argh, damn nubs on Whirlpool | |
| <Tatey> "Beryl is based on XGL" | |
| <Tatey> WTF | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <Tatey> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=663855#r8 | |
| <siccness> Just read it | |
| <siccness> Classic shit | |
| <siccness> I dunno why you even bothered responding :P | |
| <merlin-linux> beryl is rewritten aiglx code? | |
| <Tatey> argh, because he is completely misguiding the OP | |
| <Tatey> if people want to be tools on their own, that's fine. If they spread their toolishness, it should be corrected | |
| <Tatey> merlin-linux: nah, AIGLX was rewritten XGL code :P | |
| <Tatey> siccness: I thought you were banned? | |
| <siccness> I got unbanned | |
| <Tatey> hacked in? | |
| <Tatey> they're only running IIS, surely there are a few exploits here and there :P | |
| <siccness> Nah, they just sinbinned me for a while then said "nah, here you go, we'll let you back in" | |
| <SuPeRhAm> hey tatey :d | |
| <Tatey> hi SuPeRhAm | |
| <Cyvros> Hiya, Tatey, SuPeRhAm. | |
| <siccness> You know what pisses me off the most, you give advice to people, then someone else gives the same advice and they get thanked :| | |
| <Cyvros> You're back early, siccness. | |
| <Cyvros> Thank you, siccness. | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <siccness> I wasn't referring to you :P | |
| <Tatey> hah, yea... I know what you mean | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: Meh, might-as-well. | |
| <siccness> I'm not one to care but it does get to me sometimes :| | |
| <Tatey> I ordered my copy of Solaris | |
| <SuPeRhAm> yeh siccy i get it all the time | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: DVD? | |
| <SuPeRhAm> and what the hell am i doing up this late :/ | |
| <Cyvros> SuPeRhAm: Because only the best are up this late. | |
| <SuPeRhAm> yeh true | |
| <Tatey> Cyvros: Yea, I think so | |
| <SuPeRhAm> got tatey talking and siccy | |
| <siccness> Tatey: Yeah I ordered mine too | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: I am an Openbox convert, BTW. | |
| <siccness> I bet you we dont get them | |
| <Cyvros> Thought I'd mention it. :D | |
| <merlin-linux> night all | |
| <Tatey> oh, no you didn't | |
| <Cyvros> G'nite, merlin-linux. | |
| <Tatey> welcome to the dark side ;) | |
| <SuPeRhAm> night merlin-linux | |
| <siccness> Night, merlin-linux | |
| <Tatey> night merlin-linux | |
| * Tatey casts a spell | |
| <SuPeRhAm> <Tatey> welcome to the dark side ;) - we have cookies :D | |
| <Cyvros> I began downloading Solaris a while ago. | |
| <siccness> Tatey: This is what happens, you convert one, that one converts another, and the chain goes on :P | |
| <Cyvros> LOL. | |
| <Tatey> I don't think I could ever take Solaris seriously though. Sun has always been disliked by the FOSS community | |
| <Tatey> siccness: it's great, isn't it? :P | |
| <siccness> Tatey: :P | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: I've always wondered why. *raised-eyebrow* | |
| <siccness> I jsut want Solaris to play around with | |
| <Tatey> I mean seriously, why use Solaris when you can just use Linux? | |
| <Tatey> siccness: me too | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey, siccness: Talking 'bout OB? | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: Because Solaris is different? | |
| <Tatey> Cyvros: oh no, Sun Solaris OS | |
| <siccness> We're talking about Solaris now :P | |
| <Cyvros> Solaris is, IIRC, BSD-based. | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: Ah. | |
| <Tatey> Solaris is not BSD based, it's Unix-based. It was originally build from Unix System 4 | |
| <Tatey> or 5 | |
| <SuPeRhAm> solaris is like using a mac | |
| <SuPeRhAm> lack of software | |
| <siccness> lol, wtf | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: I thought I read that Solaris was based on BSD code. | |
| <Cyvros> SuPeRhAm: LOL. | |
| * Cyvros scratches his head. | |
| <Tatey> Cyvros: there's probably a lot of BSD code in it nowadays | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: Hehehe. | |
| <Tatey> there's a lot of BSD code in Linux and Windows too | |
| <Cyvros> It was in an APC mag, I think. | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: In Windows? | |
| <SuPeRhAm> everyone is going BSD!!! | |
| <siccness> In the early 1990s Sun replaced the BSD-derived SunOS 4 with a version of UNIX System V Release 4 (SVR4), jointly developed with AT&T. | |
| <Cyvros> Bastard MS developers. | |
| <SuPeRhAm> wahhhh | |
| <SuPeRhAm> lol | |
| <Cyvros> SuPeRhAm: I've noticed. | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: Oh. Thanks. | |
| <Tatey> well, the BSD license permits you to do what you want with the code. You can take a project, close source it and sell it | |
| * SuPeRhAm head hurts | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: Damn them. <_< | |
| <Tatey> Cyvros: well, see, the BSD license grants more freedom than the GPL | |
| <Cyvros> Next we'll have tea cups based on BSD. | |
| <Tatey> because you can do what you want.. really | |
| <Tatey> GPL says "You must do this" | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: Dammit... Do I want more freedom or more OSS? | |
| <Tatey> well, it depends on the author and the application itself | |
| <siccness> freedom is a very loose word | |
| <Cyvros> Maybe they should have a built-in 'no-MS' clause. Or, considering it's against MS, a 'bundled' clause. | |
| <SuPeRhAm> if you want freedom go to a island inhabitit by monkeys only. there you will find happyness and freedom | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: Yes, the, ahem, "rigidly-defined areas of doubt and uncertainty". | |
| <Tatey> seriously though, even though Solaris is a great OS for server-side applications, it's proprietary. The support is solid, but Linux is just nicer. It's more flexible and runs on anything | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: Good man. :D | |
| <Tatey> admittedly, Solaris is X86 these days, but apparently it's still heavily optimised for SPARC | |
| <Cyvros> Oh. | |
| <Cyvros> Is Solaris suitable for normal desktop use? | |
| <Tatey> you could... if you really wanted to | |
| <SuPeRhAm> [01:36] <Cyvros> Tatey: Good man. :D - isnt tatey a girl? :S | |
| <Tatey> it lacks a lot of multimedia and hardware support | |
| <Cyvros> SuPeRhAm: Is she? | |
| <Cyvros> Dammit. | |
| <siccness> no | |
| <Tatey> LOL | |
| <siccness> tatey is a guy | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Cyvros> Ha! | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: Okay. | |
| <SuPeRhAm> lol | |
| <Tatey> last time I checked, anyway | |
| <siccness> a good bloke too | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <Cyvros> Check again. | |
| <SuPeRhAm> its ok lol im not around enough lol | |
| <Cyvros> Who knows, what with these raging hormones these days? | |
| <Cyvros> SuPeRhAm: Hehehe. | |
| <Cyvros> I think elkbuntu is female. | |
| <Tatey> I'll grab you a picture | |
| <Tatey> elkbuntu is female, yes | |
| <siccness> elk is female | |
| <Cyvros> That's the only person I know here who I know is definitely female. | |
| <elkbuntu> O.o | |
| <siccness> uhh motherlug :P | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: Oh, right. | |
| <SuPeRhAm> i want to find a 18 yo girl who is a linux nut | |
| <Cyvros> elkbuntu: Sorry. :D | |
| <Tatey> http://flora.tatey.com/gallery/index.php?gallery=Me%2C%20myself..%20and%20possibly%20the%20dogs&image=DSC01646%20%28Large%29.JPG <-- Hint: I'm not either of the females :P | |
| <Cyvros> SuPeRhAm: You, too, huh? | |
| <SuPeRhAm> yeh | |
| <siccness> I just want a girlfriend that drinks beer | |
| <Cyvros> Would one recommend Solaris or OpenSolaris? | |
| <SuPeRhAm> i say linux nut because im still a windows noob | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: LOL. | |
| <siccness> I'm sick of having to buy girls fancy drinks | |
| <Cyvros> You'll find too many of them. | |
| <Cyvros> SuPeRhAm: Hehehe. | |
| <Tatey> siccness: buy them beer ;) | |
| <siccness> they dont drink it | |
| <Cyvros> I'm trying to excise the Windows portions of my brain. | |
| <Cyvros> Or at least compress them. | |
| <siccness> "eww i dont want this" "fine, *gulp, gulp, gulp*" | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: Tube-feeding? | |
| <Tatey> or, don't buy them drinks at all :P | |
| <SuPeRhAm> ah i wish they taught us more linux in tafe | |
| <SuPeRhAm> but nooo | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: That's right! I've seen your pic on dA! | |
| <siccness> Tatey: That | |
| <SuPeRhAm> was all windows | |
| <Cyvros> SuPeRhAm: Hehehe. | |
| <Tatey> Cyvros: that's an old pic :) | |
| <siccness> Tatey: That's what I do now. I don't buy em drinks. :) | |
| <SuPeRhAm> drinking is bad | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: You still look similar enough, though. | |
| <Cyvros> Ewww... Solaris looks crappy. | |
| <Cyvros> Seriously, where's the beauty in its VS? | |
| <Tatey> Cyvros: it's designed for production servers, more or less | |
| <SuPeRhAm> hmm | |
| <SuPeRhAm> i might go back into novell for my server | |
| <siccness> The first Solaris desktop environment was OpenWindows, previously bundled with SunOS 4.1.x releases. It was superseded by CDE in Solaris 2.5 onwards. Sun's Java Desktop System, which is based on GNOME, is included with Solaris 10. | |
| <Tatey> I was running Ubuntu, technically I still am. Just, the server is never turned on since I off-shored my hosting overseas | |
| <siccness> SuPeRhAm: Novell NetWare? HAH! | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: But it's ugly. | |
| <SuPeRhAm> yeh siccy | |
| <Tatey> Cyvros: most administrators don't really care about GUI's, they just want multiple terminals. I don't even have X installed on my server | |
| <SuPeRhAm> i loved novell for its simplicity | |
| <siccness> Heh, simplicity? | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: Ah. True. | |
| * siccness wonders what's so simple about netware :P | |
| <Cyvros> I want something that looks good, too, though. | |
| <Tatey> Openbox :) | |
| <Cyvros> Tatey: Exactly. | |
| <siccness> SuPeRhAm: Have you distributed an application via NAL yet? | |
| <SuPeRhAm> i didnt go that far into it | |
| <siccness> So I'm assuming you've created users/groups, assigned permissions, created login scripts? | |
| <SuPeRhAm> i only setup users and home directorys | |
| <SuPeRhAm> yeh | |
| <siccness> Hate to break it to you, but it gets a lot more complicated :P | |
| <SuPeRhAm> was a few years ago lol | |
| <SuPeRhAm> yeh prolly does | |
| <siccness> I spent 3hrs just trying to distribute Office97 to one box | |
| <SuPeRhAm> lol | |
| <siccness> Office 2000 was easier | |
| <siccness> Office97 was being a bitch | |
| <SuPeRhAm> oh wait i did setup a distributable packages | |
| <SuPeRhAm> i think it was some small wordpad replacement | |
| <SuPeRhAm> lol | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> yeah, probably a straight .exe file and that was it :P | |
| <siccness> didn't require the use of snapshot | |
| <Tatey> distribute OpenOffice :) | |
| <siccness> I'd rather plague people with MS Office :P | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: LOL. | |
| <SuPeRhAm> openoffice wasnt heard of when i was doing novell tatey | |
| <Tatey> that's because it was still "StarOffice" back then | |
| <SuPeRhAm> yeh staroffice was sweet | |
| <SuPeRhAm> i still got copies of that everywhere | |
| <Tatey> OpenOffice is the OSS verion of StarOffice | |
| <siccness> am I going crazy or are Mandriva using the same naming system as Ge?too now? | |
| <siccness> 2007.0 | |
| <Tatey> siccness: I believe so | |
| <Cyvros> I remember Monash handed out copies of StarOffice on its IT essentials CD. | |
| <SuPeRhAm> the only good thing ive seen come from mandriva is their flash drive os's | |
| <Cyvros> SuPeRhAm: Apparently they're the number one Linux distro in the world. I refuse to believe that. | |
| <Cyvros> Anyone know a good ISO burner? | |
| <siccness> I doubt that. | |
| <siccness> I woulda thought RH/Fedora would be. | |
| <Tatey> I remember using Mandrake back in the day | |
| <SuPeRhAm> yeh siccy i would think so to | |
| <Tatey> Mandrake as a German fork of Redhat? | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: Same. Or, if you like DistroWatch, Ubuntu. | |
| <siccness> Yeah but DistroWatch doesn't count how many people use it | |
| <SuPeRhAm> the best livecd version of linux is knoppix | |
| <SuPeRhAm> cant go past it | |
| <Tatey> I'm pretty sure I was annoyed at RH and checked out Mandrake | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: Yeah, but it's still neat. | |
| <Cyvros> SuPeRhAm: Never tried Knoppix. | |
| <Cyvros> Anyone on the ISO burner? | |
| <SuPeRhAm> was os you in | |
| <Cyvros> SuPeRhAm: What OS? Ubuntu. | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: I'd just use GnomeBaker | |
| <SuPeRhAm> ^^ | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: I have GnomeBaker, but I couldn't find an option for ISOs. | |
| <siccness> Hold up | |
| <Cyvros> Whoops. | |
| <Cyvros> Found the option. | |
| <siccness> Tools menu | |
| <Cyvros> Thanks. :D | |
| <Cyvros> I keep missing the obvious. <_< | |
| <SuPeRhAm> we all get that | |
| <Cyvros> Live CD? Should it be 4x or 8x? | |
| <SuPeRhAm> from time to time | |
| <Cyvros> I can't remember. | |
| <Cyvros> SuPeRhAm: Hehehe. I think I get it more than others. :D | |
| <SuPeRhAm> just do 4 its safer | |
| <Cyvros> SuPeRhAm: Righteo. Thanks. | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: Long long argument about whether burning quickly effects the media | |
| <siccness> I don't believe a word of it | |
| <SuPeRhAm> i do | |
| <Cyvros> siccness: Hehehe. Screwed up once for me. :D | |
| <SuPeRhAm> i strongly believe in shelf life of cd/dvds | |
| <SuPeRhAm> is only 4-5 years | |
| <frederick85> hi | |
| <siccness> If that. | |
| <SuPeRhAm> yeh if that | |
| <siccness> A lot of media is crappy, won't last longer than 12-24months. | |
| <siccness> Hey frederick85 | |
| <SuPeRhAm> yeh like aldi's brand tevion | |
| <SuPeRhAm> lasted for me for 1 month | |
| <SuPeRhAm> lol | |
| <siccness> Ohh shit | |
| <siccness> You reminded me | |
| <siccness> My grandpa wanted to know if that tv was a good buy or not | |
| <frederick85> well i broke up with my wife since i last spoke to u siccness | |
| <siccness> What the hell? | |
| <frederick85> and i take dexies now | |
| <siccness> What happened mate? | |
| <frederick85> remember i stopped all my medication? | |
| <siccness> Nope? | |
| <frederick85> oh | |
| <frederick85> well when I last spoke i was in process of going cold turkey on all my medication | |
| <frederick85> and turns out i have bipolar type II | |
| <siccness> :( | |
| <frederick85> so my wife and me had some nasty fights, by email that is | |
| <SuPeRhAm> bugger | |
| <frederick85> but now i'm on lots of pills | |
| <frederick85> including stimulants | |
| <siccness> Mate I'm sorry to hear. I hope everything turns out for the best for you. | |
| <frederick85> so that's enjoyable | |
| <frederick85> I am a father aswell | |
| <Tatey> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash <-- flash 9.0 officially relased | |
| <siccness> lol, shows how much i know. i thought it was official months ago | |
| <Cyvros> G'nite, all. | |
| <Tatey> nub :P | |
| <SuPeRhAm> hmm | |
| <SuPeRhAm> you guys know about that 3D desktop thats in the new mandriva os? | |
| <SuPeRhAm> have they made something like that into a livecd iso? | |
| <Tatey> no idea TBH | |
| <Tatey> if you're referring to Beryl/Compiz and XGL/AIGLX, they're avaiable on almost all distributions I know of | |
| <Tatey> not out of the box though | |
| <SuPeRhAm> xgl/aiglx im talking about i think | |
| <SuPeRhAm> i want something out of the box live cd style | |
| <SuPeRhAm> :D | |
| <Tatey> Sabyon Linux is another one, IIRC? I'm not entirely sure | |
| <Tatey> with Arch it's as easy as $ pacman -S beryl-svn nvidia-glx and you'll have all the appropriate packages | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <siccness> i think im sick of elinks/cli browswers | |
| <siccness> *browsers | |
| <Tatey> hahaha | |
| <Tatey> I knew it :P | |
| <siccness> It's nice, but it's annoying. | |
| <Tatey> fuck, have to remember table html | |
| <siccness> portage has net-www/netscape-flash-9.0.31.0 | |
| <siccness> but the latest listed is 9.0.21.78 | |
| * siccness scratches his head | |
| <Tatey> wtf..? | |
| <siccness> I should really do a world update :| | |
| <Tatey> scite is a really nice editor | |
| <Tatey> siccness: you should never be afraid to update your system :) | |
| <siccness> im not afraid by all means. | |
| <Tatey> or reluctant | |
| <siccness> i just have to exclude so many things | |
| <Tatey> updates should be easy | |
| <siccness> like i dont actually care to update X | |
| <Tatey> lawl, I just find it funny :P | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <siccness> I reckon if i remove x packages from all that | |
| <siccness> it'd drop from 400MB to about 100MB :P | |
| <siccness> (in updates) | |
| <Tatey> what about any security vulnerabilities? | |
| <siccness> hah! | |
| <siccness> i might do a clean up now actually | |
| <Tatey> nice :) | |
| <Tatey> I'm working on an ebay template for my father's company | |
| <siccness> Nice | |
| <siccness> What's he do? | |
| <Tatey> with all perfectly valid css/xhtml ;) | |
| <Tatey> bjs.net.au | |
| <Tatey> the site is old and outdated | |
| <Tatey> and I really need to fix it up | |
| <Tatey> I made it like... 6 years ago? :P | |
| <siccness> Looks good :) | |
| <Tatey> nah... closer to 5 before I embraced standards | |
| <Tatey> tell you what | |
| <Tatey> scite is REALLY nice | |
| <siccness> easy to use or not? | |
| <Tatey> it's just an editor | |
| <Tatey> very fast, very sleek | |
| <Tatey> no fuss/bloat | |
| <Tatey> check it out | |
| <siccness> shall do (soonish) | |
| <Tatey> after you spend hours compiling? :P | |
| <siccness> lol, prick :P | |
| <siccness> I got way too much crap on this box | |
| <Tatey> still up | |
| <Tatey> eh? | |
| <siccness> Yeah | |
| <siccness> Just :P | |
| <siccness> What's up anyway? | |
| <Tatey> http://tatey.com/random/bjs/product_template.htm | |
| <Tatey> there is still more that needs to be done | |
| <Tatey> but it's clean, valid code... and should serve for a nice template | |
| <siccness> Are you trying to cause permanent eye-damage? | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <siccness> Man that's a bright yellow :| | |
| <Tatey> I'm not too happy with the colours either, but that's the colours of the company | |
| <siccness> screw that, change the colours | |
| <Tatey> it's to test the layout more than anything... colours can easily be changed :) | |
| <siccness> yea | |
| <siccness> i like the layout tho | |
| <Tatey> you have to remember, this is eBay :P | |
| <Tatey> eBay != the rest of the interent | |
| <siccness> yah | |
| <Tatey> business has been going for like | |
| <Tatey> 15+ years | |
| <Tatey> and he wants to move it on to eBay | |
| <siccness> nice | |
| <Tatey> like, extend to ebay | |
| <siccness> our business started 1973 | |
| <Tatey> nice :) | |
| <siccness> it'll be gone in about 2 yrs time tho :( | |
| <Tatey> oh why? | |
| <siccness> because car manufacturars are tossers | |
| <Tatey> oh | |
| <Tatey> yea, Australia car manufactures are having a hard time | |
| <siccness> that and the australian public buy imported cars | |
| <Tatey> well, they're cheaper | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <Tatey> and the federal government is slowly reducing tarrifs, which isn't helping | |
| <Tatey> in all honesty, Ford and Holden need to start producing cars that Australians of today want. People don't want big and expensive cars anymore, it costs too much to run | |
| <Tatey> I'd *really* hate to see the Australian car industry collapse | |
| <siccness> However with Holden and Ford exporting cars, it'll pick up a little bit for us | |
| <siccness> But the collapse of Ajax costed our business a fortune | |
| <siccness> (i'm not sure if you've heard of Ajax though) | |
| <Tatey> what does you business actually do? | |
| <Tatey> nah, I haven't | |
| <siccness> Electroplating | |
| <siccness> Ajax = Fasteners | |
| <Tatey> so, you're involved with selling components to the Australian car manufactures | |
| <Tatey> ? | |
| <siccness> So Ajax basically make bolts, nuts and what not. We do the electroplating | |
| <siccness> basically every nut / bolt under the bonnet of holden/ford has been electroplated by us and a couple of other joints | |
| <Tatey> makes sense why you live in SA now :) | |
| <siccness> Nope | |
| <siccness> Most of it's done in vic | |
| <siccness> We're probably the second biggest electroplater in vic | |
| <Tatey> oh WTf | |
| <Tatey> I keep thinking you're in SA | |
| <Tatey> lol | |
| <Tatey> sorry | |
| <siccness> lol it's all good. | |
| <Tatey> you're the VB bogan, VB = Victoira | |
| <siccness> Hahaha :) | |
| <Tatey> anyway mate, I hope it does pick up again for you guys. With the exporting, and hopefully Ford + Holden, Mitsi start making some cars that mainstream Australia is seeking | |
| <siccness> Yeah thanks mate. | |
| <Tatey> I'm going to head to bed, have to go into my fathers work tomorrow (argh!) | |
| <siccness> Mitsubishi mean nothing to us tho :P | |
| <Tatey> oh okay | |
| <siccness> Hehe, take care champ :) | |
| <Tatey> well, AFAIK, they're apart of the Australian Car Manufcaturing industry | |
| <Tatey> anyway, night | |
| <siccness> Night | |
| <siccness> hmm | |
| <TheMuso> Morning all. | |
| <manicka> morning TheMuso :) |