<mdke> MagicFab: around?

<MagicFab> mdke, yes

<mdke> MagicFab: can you add your thoughts to that spec in a "Comments" section, rather than into implementation for now... I'm not 100% clear on what you're getting at, but I think it's in the mockup already

<MagicFab> ooops - np

<MagicFab> Discussion at the end ?

<mdke> yes please, and add your name

<MagicFab> np

<MagicFab> you mean at the top ?

<MagicFab> or/and every comment ?

<mdke> just once after your comments

<MagicFab> ok tx for letting me know

<mdke> have a look at the mockup and bug report though

<mdke> and be aware that Yelp is translated... :)

<mdke> essentially what you're talking about in 2, 3 and 4 is expanding the "get free and technical support online" link?

<mdke> it's an interesting idea, but we may have limited screen space there. We want it to be a launchpad to the support options described on the website

* mdke hilights MagicFab again

<MagicFab> mdke, a bit more subtle than that

<mdke> MagicFab: let's take your points one by one

<MagicFab> based on locale / language, locoteams, nearby marketplace, forums, etc. could be filtered / better aimed at

<mdke> if you have time

<MagicFab> I can give 5 - I am on shift (at support, mind you) so ... it makes sense :)

<mdke> really your comments are equally well aimed at the current help menu...

<MagicFab> of course

<mdke> MagicFab: lets move to #ubuntu-doc

<MagicFab> np

<Nafallo> wb jono

<jono> hey

<MagicFab> jono

<MagicFab> jono, was the membership process delegation to locoteams accepted at the CC ?

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<Zelut> can someone suggest who I should submit a loco success story to for inclusion in the UWN, marketing, etc?

<Burgundavia_> Zelut: the marketing or the loco contacts lists

<Zelut> Burgundavia_: thanks

<Burgundavia_> no worries

<Zelut> oops

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<Mirv> has anyone else heard from Canonical regarding LoCoTeam hosting improvements? it's been months with no improvements, but recently there have been rumors of New Hardware (tm)

<Mirv> and the situation is getting worse and worse (or better and better as there are more users, but the users are more frustrated...)

<Mirv> (no-one is interested in my presence/questions at #canonical-sysadmin :), and matthew nuzum is basically just saying that he's asking about the situation frequently)

<mdke> Mirv: I'm also asking about it frequently

<mdke> Mirv: but you'll have to be patient. Don't worry, our sites are also totally rubbish

<mdke> We should hear soon about it

<mdke> I've had some positive noises

<Mirv> yeah, I'm patient, just tell it to our users :)

<mdke> yeah, I know

<mdke> I'll keep chasing

<jsgotangco> Belutz: ping?

<Belutz> jsgotangco, pong

<Belutz> how are you jerome?

<Belutz> did you get my message from Yolynne?

<jsgotangco> yeah thanks! we had a brief power failure here

<jsgotangco> so are you in jakarta?

<Belutz> yup

<jsgotangco> how are is sukabumi from jakarta?

<jsgotangco> how far i mean

<Belutz> about 1-2 hours from jakarta

<Belutz> you are arriving at nigth jan 21 ?

<jsgotangco> yeah

<jsgotangco> i can't stay much in jakarta as I fly on the 31st in the morning

<jsgotangco> and the camp starts on the 22nd until the 30th

<Belutz> you'll be staying in jakarta for one night then? or directly to sukabumi?

<jsgotangco> i think they will arrange transport when i arrive to jakarta

<Belutz> i see

<Belutz> hmm

<Belutz> so there's no changes for us to meet the edubuntu master from .ph? :D

<jsgotangco> is sukabumi a city?

<Belutz> yes, not a big city though

<jsgotangco> Belutz: im not sure how long a day track is worth, but I would like to go to jakarta and meet you up if i can find transport

<jsgotangco> but im sure ill be able to squeeze up some time considering ill be there for 10 days

<Belutz> Yolynne said that we could meet them at jan 21 in the morning, but i rather to wait for you to arrive

<jsgotangco> but im thinking of extending a day as well

<Belutz> if you can extend a day, let me know, i will arrange the meeting with the author of the edubuntu book

<Belutz> but unfortunately i can't provide a transport for you

<jsgotangco> no worries, i blend easily to any city

<jsgotangco> but i will let you know

<Belutz> you have my email right?

<jsgotangco> give me your mobile no. so i can send you an sms when i arrive or call you up

<jsgotangco> but i arrive on the 21st around 9pm there

<Belutz> +62-817-60-660-17 / +62-813-822-49-545

<Belutz> 9pm, hmm it's late enough

<jsgotangco> unfortunately, the camp is not open for walk-ins

<Belutz> yup

<jsgotangco> yeah i couldn't get a decent flight, i had to layover to KL first

<jsgotangco> and wait for 3 hours

<Belutz> ic

<jsgotangco> there is no direct flight from manila to jakarta which i find odd

<Belutz> what airplane?

<jsgotangco> malaysian air

<Belutz> ic

<jsgotangco> singapore air is already full

<Belutz> too bad that i didn't know this event earlier :(

<jsgotangco> Belutz: just check iosn.net regularly

<jsgotangco> or go to the #iosn channel

<Belutz> i will from now on

<Belutz> :)

<jsgotangco> they sponsored and LPI certification exam in manila last year

<jsgotangco> all free

<Belutz> wow

<jsgotangco> training and exam

<Belutz> so you're LPI certified now?

<jsgotangco> i didnt join that one haha

<jsgotangco> i will join the next one for sure though

<Belutz> i see hahaha

<jsgotangco> the ASEAN+3 node of IOSN is based in Manila

<Belutz> wow

<Belutz> anyway, are there lots of woman in ubuntu-ph?

<Belutz> because we have none in ubuntu-id

<jsgotangco> Belutz: lots

<Belutz> wew

<Belutz> can i join ubuntu-ph? lol

<jsgotangco> lol haha feel free

<jsgotangco> the place seems to be a bit cold

<Belutz> hahaha

<Belutz> so there will be 3 ubuntu-ph members that will come to sukabumi

<jsgotangco> yeah

<jsgotangco> i think someone from ubuntu-pakistan would be coming too

<Belutz> i told one of ubuntu-id member that will come to give you an edubuntu book, 1 set of edgy dvd repos and 1 set of dapper dvd repos

<jsgotangco> someone from ubuntu-id is part of the camp?

<Belutz> yup

<Belutz> his name is diki

<jsgotangco> that's awesome we'll hook up

<Belutz> yup

<Belutz> his blog: http://diki.or.id

<jsgotangco> let me check what track he will be in

<Belutz> ok

<jsgotangco> Diki Andeas?

<Belutz> i think so, i don't know his real name lol

<jsgotangco> bwahaha

<Belutz> hahaha

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<Belutz> jsgotangco, ping!

<shawarma> Should a loco team wait until approval before creating a ubuntu-cc team on Launchpad?

<mdke> shawarma: it's entirely up to you

<mdke> go ahead and create it if you want, and there isn't already one

<mdke> shawarma: it works the other way round too, I think - you don't need an ubuntu-cc team on Launchpad at all if you don't want one.

<shawarma> Alright. I thought as much, I just didn't want to go ahead and do it if it was considered bad form.

<mdke> and just to complete the picture, we have 5 or 6 groups :)

<mdke> all of which are members of ~ubuntu-it

<shawarma> mdke: I think it's a good way of keeping track of members. Way better than the current wiki-page, anyway.

<shawarma> mdke: You're in Italy?

<mdke> no

<shawarma> ?

<mdke> but I'm heavily involved in the italian team

<shawarma> Ah.

<mdke> we have no residence requirement :)

* jenda always thought you were in Italy, mdke :)

<mdke> nope, London

* jenda has been involved with the -ie team :)

<jenda> but that never really kicked off

<mdke> shawarma: well, it depends how you define members. The italian teams are made up generally of core members, rather than all members

<mdke> so the forum team contains forum admins, etc etc

<shawarma> So you have no complete list of members?

<jenda> mdke: admins and mods

<jenda> shawarma: that would soon be overwhelming.

<mdke> shawarma: that also depends how you define members. There is no complete list of all the people who participate in the forum, mailing lists and irc, such a list would be well over 15000 people long

<mdke> shawarma: however we are setting up a system of "membership" of ubuntu-it, similar to Ubuntu Membership

<shawarma> mdke: Good point. So you have no concept of a ubuntu usergroup? If so, how is it defined?

<shawarma> mdke: Ah... Clever!

<jenda> The czech LoCo has a 'core team' of about 6 people.

<mdke> that will still be limited to contributors, of course

<mdke> rather than "users"

<mdke> s/contributors/significant contributors

<shawarma> mdke: Yes. Good idea.

<mdke> so, no concept of a usergroup, at least not in Launchpad

<shawarma> mdke: Ok.

<jenda> Ubuntu is estimated at 5 million users, shawarma :)

<mdke> surely not!

<shawarma> More like 6, I think.

<tux21b> Yann2: ping?

<shawarma> jenda: I was thinking more along the lines of regional groups.

<Yann2> mh?

<mdke> shawarma: what group are you thinking of?

<shawarma> mdke: Well, in your case an Italian user group.

<mdke> I mean, what's your group?

<shawarma> mdke: And in mine, a Danish one.

* mdke nods

<mdke> good danish community?

* mdke bets Denmark is full of Linux users

<shawarma> Not really. It lacks coherence.

<mdke> you know lloydinho?

<shawarma> Yup.

<jenda> and MenZa is danish

<mdke> lloydinho is a good guy, he should help the team

<mdke> shawarma: what's wrong with the coherence?

<shawarma> mdke: It's absent. :-)

* mdke mehs

<shawarma> mdke: Point is that there seems to be a bunch of ubuntu users, but no sense of community. I'm hoping to kick off some activities (stands at fairs, install parties, etc) to get people to work together and get to know each other and see where it goes from there.

<mdke> shawarma: cool, good idea

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