| <MotherLUG> ahh nice | |
| <Hit3k> I'm never doing tech support ever. | |
| <cps> what makes you say that :-) | |
| <Hit3k> helping person on msn install frostwire and 'where did i download it to' | |
| <cps> lots of people get confused by that kind of thing | |
| <siccness> I did helpdesk support for 2 weeks, it's not that bad really :) | |
| <siccness> but any longer than that you'd probably want to kill someone | |
| <Phlosten> allo all | |
| <frederick85> help havn't been able to use linux online for a couple of months now | |
| <frederick85> have to use dialup at the moment | |
| <Tatey> that sucks | |
| <frederick85> i have some money | |
| <frederick85> got any ideas what I could buy to use internet on Ubuntu still | |
| <Tatey> buy to use internet on Ubuntu? | |
| <Tatey> you mean like those pre-paid dial-up internet cards? | |
| <Tatey> seriously, you're better off with a cheap broadband plan | |
| <frederick85> yes | |
| <frederick85> i can't because i'm only here at this house temporary | |
| <frederick85> my mother uses windblows so if I plug a network crossover cable to her NIC do u think ubuntu will connect to the shared internet connection? | |
| <Tatey> yes, it will | |
| <frederick85> WOOHOO | |
| <frederick85> i'm gonna go buy one perhaps | |
| <Tatey> Windows uses standard protocols to communite over the network | |
| <frederick85> cheap solution | |
| <hysterio> evening all | |
| <cps_> hi | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> arnt meetings supposed to be announced a day or two before they happen? or did i not see the anounce email? | |
| <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: the /topic counts | |
| <praetorian> seems a week is being skipped too | |
| <praetorian> :p | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee, which part of it? | |
| <Hobbsee> meetings: every second Monday at 0900 UTC; next meeting January 8th | |
| <Hobbsee> praetorian: yeah, new years... | |
| <praetorian> pfft :P | |
| <praetorian> like half the channel is going to be out anyway ;> | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser grumbles. he missed a chance to flame some pro forums whacko | |
| <praetorian> build a blog and get over it | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> praetorian, i dont blog. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> dont get me started on blogs | |
| <cps_> I don't think there were any "pro-forum wackos" present | |
| <Hobbsee> heh | |
| <praetorian> siccness was here, he is surely a pro forum whacko. | |
| <praetorian> atleast a whacko anyway.. | |
| <praetorian> :-) | |
| <thoreauputic> praetorian: that's a safe bet in ubuntu-au, surely | |
| * thoreauputic runs | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser was rubbed up the wrong way by the bloke who emailed canoncial re forums | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hey thoreauputic | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: so waas i , somewhat | |
| <thoreauputic> and hi :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> how are you? dont see you much atm | |
| <thoreauputic> ah, I've been watching cricket and reading books ;) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> bah, an intelectual :P | |
| <thoreauputic> heh | |
| <thoreauputic> ... and listening to Mozart of course ;p | |
| <hysterio> Kamping_Kaiser: the forums idea got voted down pretty convincingly | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hysterio, /again/. | |
| <hysterio> yeah | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic, :P | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser grr. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm going for a shower. back in 30-60 minutes. perhaps not feeling crap will help me be less angry | |
| <thoreauputic> unfortunately it appears that some of the forum heavies have shot themselves in the foot rather comprehensively at the recent UDS | |
| <hysterio> and subsequently | |
| <thoreauputic> indeed | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> 'unfortunately'? | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: now now ... | |
| <thoreauputic> ;) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic, i'm not required to be diplomatic, or unbiased :) | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: the rifts in the community are unfortunate | |
| <hysterio> thats for fox news | |
| <hysterio> but inevitable | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic, yes, but i dont see tehm closing any time soon | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: you may be right. The cultural differences, to put it fashionably, are rather large | |
| <thoreauputic> I mean the mindset is totally different in the forums, it appears | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser has experianced the forums, and now just avoids them. | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: I tried to set up a bridge by starting a wiki page, but it got sidetracked within less than a day, with an idea that was nothing to do with the intention | |
| <thoreauputic> *shrug* | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BridgingUbuntu | |
| <thoreauputic> the forums got the idea it was about petitioning the developers, apparently | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic, :/ i might have a quick look through its history some time (the page) | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: lost cause I'm afraid | |
| <thoreauputic> :( | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :( | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ok, really afk now | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> 30-60 min again | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: I have come to the conclusion that even well-meaning forum people don't get it when it comes to the Ubuntu community | |
| <cps_> what do you think the reason for that would be? | |
| <thoreauputic> cps_: I think it's partly an accident of history - most forum people seem to see the forums as the community, and don't have experience of the IRC and mailing lists etc I think | |
| <cps_> that's unfortunate | |
| <thoreauputic> cps_: my interpretation is that people who gravitate to forums are web people, and others are Net people, if you see what i mean | |
| <cps_> the medium shouldn't really define what the community is | |
| <thoreauputic> agreed | |
| <thoreauputic> but the forums started independently | |
| <thoreauputic> which is what I mean about an accident of history | |
| <cps_> and those original founders want to control it and not let it be governed by the community? | |
| <hysterio> cps: I think the very nature of the medium colours the community. IRC has a really different vibe (at least to me) than forums | |
| <hysterio> and I dont mean wrt ubuntu, but generally | |
| <cps_> yeah, they are different beasts | |
| <cps_> but they shouldn't be mutually exclusive | |
| <hysterio> and as thoreauputic said, i think different types of people gravitate towards or away from the different mediums. | |
| <cps_> it would be interesting to know what kinds of people prefer the different mediums and why | |
| <cps_> and also what other people who might not use any feel | |
| <frederick85> hello people | |
| <cps_> hi | |
| *** cps_ is now known as cps | |
| <hysterio> hey frederick85 | |
| <frederick85> what | |
| <frederick85> is up | |
| <hysterio> not | |
| <hysterio> alot | |
| <hysterio> :P | |
| <frederick85> my wife became bitter | |
| <frederick85> hysterio sounds like being on the dole :( | |
| <hysterio> yeah, cept im on irc rather than playing playstation | |
| <frederick85> hysterio, u will probably learn more | |
| <frederick85> I could be wasting my time playing Diablo 2 on battle net | |
| <frederick85> my wife isn't talking to me | |
| <frederick85> so i'm bored | |
| <thoreauputic> cps: completely guessing: some people see forums as less formal and more approachable, and it's less effort than learning about mailing lists or IRC ( including netiquette and traditions) | |
| <frederick85> i havn't been able to use net on linux for a couple of months almost | |
| <frederick85> life is the ultimate sexually transmitted disease | |
| <cps> thoreauputic: I was thinking along those lines too | |
| <Fujitsu> Gah, I thought we killed this last night... | |
| <cps> we did | |
| <cps> but that was more about using ubuntuforums.org specifically, rather than forums in general | |
| <frederick85> what is a good programming language that requires minimal effort | |
| <Fujitsu> Python. | |
| <purserj> php | |
| * Fujitsu throws purserj off a cliff, into a pool of sharks. | |
| <frederick85> i feel like basking in the sun on the dole | |
| <Fujitsu> That'll teach you. | |
| <purserj> hah | |
| <frederick85> programming will probably stress me out too much | |
| <frederick85> i got good marks in my first year units | |
| <frederick85> i did java and C | |
| <frederick85> C was major stress | |
| <cps> try logo then | |
| <frederick85> I used to try benzos they seemed to be nice | |
| <frederick85> but i got in alot of trouble from my wife | |
| <frederick85> so i promised to quit them | |
| <siccness> siccness was here, he is surely a pro forum whacko <--no, i hate the forums | |
| <frederick85__> hello siccness | |
| <siccness> Hey frederick85__ | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: it was a typo - he meant to just say "whacko" but somehow "pro forum" snuck in as well ;p | |
| * thoreauputic runs away fast | |
| <siccness> oh by all means, im a whacko :) | |
| <thoreauputic> :D | |
| <thoreauputic> join the club :) | |
| <siccness> isnt the club "ubuntu-au"? :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, nah, thats the cult :) | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> how are ya champ? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, pretty good, just about to start packing | |
| <siccness> where ya heading towards? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> adhoc, + lucychili 's place. housesitting for 10 days | |
| <siccness> ahh cool | |
| <siccness> where are they going? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hopefully 10 days of relatively little irc, and reletivly large amoutns of hacking | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> melbourne, iirc | |
| <siccness> So you're alone on xmas? | |
| <siccness> Cook yourself a giant turkey | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm alone yeh, with any luck i'll get a few comps running | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> that'll do for me as far as presents go :) | |
| <siccness> Stay on IRC for xmas, ill keep ya company :) | |
| <siccness> The relatives are all poppin over here, and I need to do soemthign to avoid them. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> the two sunblades, the alpha-au, perhaps a few sparcstations | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hahahah | |
| <MotherLUG> Anyone in the mood for something simple? | |
| <siccness> MotherLUG: depends? | |
| <MotherLUG> A little game I came accross | |
| <MotherLUG> http://n.ethz.ch/student/mkos/pinguin.swf | |
| <MotherLUG> click on the yetti to get the penguin to dive off and then click on yetti again to wack him as far as you can | |
| <siccness> this game is like 20 years old | |
| <hysterio> yeah | |
| <MotherLUG> it's new to me | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> its flash. how is it 20 years old? :| | |
| <elkbuntu> oh no.. not this again | |
| <elkbuntu> cyas in a few years time :Þ | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hi elkbuntu | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> bye elkbuntu | |
| <siccness> stick cricket ownz this game | |
| <hysterio> this game shut down my office for about a day | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <MotherLUG> hehehe | |
| <elkbuntu> http://www.yetisports.org/ | |
| <hysterio> MotherLUG, does that TV card you guys have do analog and digital? | |
| <purserj> hysterio: seems to be digital | |
| <siccness> Quick survey question, how much are minimum chips at your local fish n chip shop? | |
| <purserj> $2.50? | |
| <siccness> Hmm | |
| <siccness> So it seems to be everywhere these days | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> 'local' to where i work=$3.0 | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ~ | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *$3.0 ish | |
| <siccness> I wish each place charged $2.00 minimum | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser wishes he didnt have to pay :P | |
| <siccness> Heh | |
| <siccness> oo, a pink sky :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ... | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> anyone here know about ubuntu on sparcs? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> does it only work on the new top end (T1000 and T2000) systems, or on the older sunblades (150's) | |
| <elkbuntu> thoreauputic, i hope that while providing support in #ubuntu, you're not giving out links to copyright information that you dont have consent to link to :Þ | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: umm.... such as? | |
| <elkbuntu> http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/copyright-ruling-puts-linking-on-notice/2006/12/19/1166290520771.html | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: actually I forbid you to use anything I say: my brain is proprietary ;p | |
| <elkbuntu> thoreauputic, lol | |
| * Fujitsu quickly installs Ubuntu on thoreauputic's brain. | |
| <thoreauputic> hahah | |
| <thoreauputic> wtf - I can't get X working... how am I supposed to see anything? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic, framebuffer :) | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: you think maybe my brain is too high powered and i should modprobe vesa? or VGA? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic, what luxuries :O my brain only supports green text output on black backgrounds :| | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> off-black backgrounds, no less :| | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: :D | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :D | |
| <thoreauputic> I'm trying to use CLI but I keep getting: brain: thinking - command not found | |
| <thoreauputic> i guess I need to link thinking into my brain $PATH ... | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic, perhaps you dont have thinking? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i hear its not part of a base setup | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: ah... umm ... ah! sudo dpkg-reconfigure brain ! | |
| <thoreauputic> hmm - must be in the non-free repo | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thought is non-free? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lucky zelotry is in main :D | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: sorry - it's actuall in the non-US repo ;p | |
| <thoreauputic> not allowed to import thinking to the USA apparently ;) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *lol* | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: look what you started! | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> firefox, you stupid bloody app. | |
| <elkbuntu> i started no such thing | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> it just tried to download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/installer-sparc/current/images/sparc64/netboot/2.6/boot.img | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> into the browser window ;S | |
| <siccness> im beginning to think the arp packet bullshit is being caused somehow by gentoo | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: you can wriggle out of it if you wish - but it all started with your question!! ( add !! ad lib) | |
| <elkbuntu> i didnt give you permission to refer to my question! | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser tuts. your so irrisponsible elkbuntu ! | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: oops | |
| * thoreauputic calls his lawyer | |
| <elkbuntu> ok, so talking to jenda, a lawyer in training, asking if i was overracting, he says "Nothing short of civil war would be an overreaction IMO ;)" | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser whips out his pistol | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser fires randomly | |
| * siccness pistol whips Kamping_Kaiser, ganxsta style | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :o | |
| * siccness creates a bomb from a tooth-pick and bubble-gum wrapper. | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser is muchly :(, i dont think ubuntu will run on sunblade 150's | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: they haven't got a hope of making that stick: it just illustrates how clueless they are. They would have to trace the people, and the ones that are traceable are not the ones they actually want anyway. But I agree, this is a case for civil disobedience and outrage... | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: I guess now we'll have the 13 year old girls in court just like the good ol' USA *sigh* | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> oooh oooh, it does run! | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser checks if internode carry the sparc packages | |
| <elkbuntu> iirc yes | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> wow, they do. | |
| <siccness> oo, gentoo-hurd | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0 | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: that article makes my blood boil :( | |
| * Fujitsu pours cold water all over thoreauputic. | |
| <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: thanks | |
| <elkbuntu> thoreauputic, mine too. read the damn austlii page... it's careless | |
| <thoreauputic> <pedantry> since when do Australians spell "authorises" as "authorizes" </pedantry> ? | |
| <elkbuntu> since 'either is correct' and nobody except yama gives two hoots about the queens english anymore :( | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: /me is obviously very Old School :( | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic, ize gives me the irrits :/ | |
| <elkbuntu> it does me as well | |
| <elkbuntu> but, cest la vie | |
| * thoreauputic winces whenever he sees people who don't know th difference between "lose" and "loose" | |
| <thoreauputic> heh - s/th/the | |
| <thoreauputic> but that was a typo only, in my defence ;) | |
| * elkbuntu thinks thoreauputic must wince alot | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> ^^ | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: oh yes, that is true indeed | |
| <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, I don't see how people cannot wince at that. | |
| <thoreauputic> :) | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser wonders why its winceworthy | |
| <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, thoreauputic is one of those grey haired people who enjoyed the national dignity Australia's culture once boasted | |
| <elkbuntu> thoreauputic, im breaking laws here to show you this, but: http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/288585/fromItemId/340639 | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, i do as well.... however i'm far from perfect. esp. re spelling. | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: you must be a looser - oh wait | |
| <thoreauputic> ;-P | |
| <thoreauputic> "winceworthy" is a nice coinage ... | |
| <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, thor is so old he probably has scars on his knuckles from his spelling mistakes | |
| * elkbuntu runs away | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: actually I won the primary school spelling bee at the age of eight ;p So I didn't get a lot of scars ;-) | |
| <siccness> Bahahaha. | |
| <elkbuntu> hehe | |
| <thoreauputic> my scars are from other things ;) | |
| <siccness> spelling the word "dog" isn't hard man :P | |
| <siccness> or as the americans spell it "dawgz" | |
| <elkbuntu> hehe | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: it is if you are dyslexic - and the religious right get very uoset if you get the letters in the wrong order ;) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Edevelop.org is awol :( | |
| <siccness> thoreauputic: diddums to them :) | |
| <thoreauputic> :) | |
| <siccness> so at the moment, im cruising along this myspace thingo | |
| <elkbuntu> you're WHAT?! | |
| <siccness> funny how as soon as everyone leaves school they become great looking. | |
| <elkbuntu> please oh PLEASE tell us you dont have a myspace? | |
| <siccness> Oh heavens no. | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: yes, and the longer they have been away from school the better looking they get ( says he with commendable modesty) | |
| <siccness> I'm beginning to feel that I'm possibly the only one who got uglier, sweet. | |
| <siccness> 1 up on them! :) | |
| <siccness> Maybe have a patchy beard, missing teeth isn't the best way to go :D | |
| * elkbuntu hands siccness an eyepatch | |
| <siccness> elkbuntu: lol | |
| * thoreauputic hands siccness a parrot | |
| <siccness> I could do with an eyepatch actually | |
| * elkbuntu ^5's thoreauputic | |
| <thoreauputic> :D | |
| <siccness> had a fly come smack me in the eye today | |
| <elkbuntu> i hope you smacked it back | |
| <elkbuntu> thoreauputic, if you want to see jenda's reaction, read the bottom 10 or so lines of this log: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-marketing-current.html | |
| <Tatey> fella's | |
| <elkbuntu> Tatey, run while you still can | |
| * Tatey runs | |
| <siccness> tataz, how are ya champ | |
| <Tatey> good mate, yourself? | |
| <elkbuntu> w00t, saved one poor innocent | |
| * thoreauputic is considering writing a script to count the number of times he sees " it doesn't work" come up as an error message, just to prove how common it is to those who keep coming up with it on IRC channels ( ie. it always returns zero) | |
| <elkbuntu> damn | |
| <Tatey> eh thoreauputic? | |
| <elkbuntu> thoreauputic, rofl | |
| <Tatey> oh, right | |
| <siccness> Tatey: im on fire mate, couldnt be better | |
| * yama arrives and reads his backlog | |
| <Tatey> good to hear mate | |
| <yama> with all that talk about language and gae, I sure do feel old :) | |
| <siccness> elkbuntu: ive found something useful on that myspace shit | |
| <yama> s/gae/age/ | |
| <siccness> found a mate that i havent spoken to for about 3 years | |
| <elkbuntu> thoreauputic, i have actually seen it.. i used to put that as error messages when i was coding the duckhunt crappy clone project thing about a year ago | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: heh - well i guess it's right up there with "the configuration of this program is trivial, and left as an exercise for the reader" | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: I always wanted to say that to someone in #ubuntu <evil grin> | |
| <elkbuntu> thoreauputic, lol | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: Or alternatively "You are not expected to understand this" | |
| <thoreauputic> ;D | |
| <elkbuntu> thoreauputic :) | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: a couple of years ago i wrote a little timer script that I called "timer with attitude", that insulted the user every time he/she entered somthing impossible like a negative time | |
| <elkbuntu> heh | |
| <yama> nothing is impossible, just improbable :) | |
| <thoreauputic> ... well, impossible without some different frame of reference, of course | |
| <thoreauputic> :) | |
| <yama> I'm sure if you could add the script to a DeLorian DMC-12 it would work | |
| <yama> (the 'Back to the Future' car) | |
| <thoreauputic> the script also output stuff about the CPU's atats and asked the user if he would like the machine to count his toes for him, since counting seconds was such an insult to its capabilities | |
| <thoreauputic> * s/atats/stats | |
| <thoreauputic> funnily enough no one seemed to want this script. Paople are odd. | |
| <thoreauputic> ;p | |
| <yama> fools | |
| <thoreauputic> heheh | |
| * siccness smacks Swinburne TAFE | |
| <siccness> What a bunch of idiots | |
| <elkbuntu> siccness, problem? | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <siccness> Apparently I have failed a subject, because they teacher forgot to put the f'ing score in | |
| <siccness> yet the teacher put the assesment in (credit/distinction/high-distinction) | |
| <elkbuntu> :( | |
| <Fujitsu> :/ | |
| <siccness> Almost as dumb as someone putting my postcode in the phone-number textbox. | |
| <Fujitsu> Hahah | |
| <siccness> Society seems to breed idiots. | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: if not, the gaussian curves for IQ would not work | |
| <siccness> yes but iq tests are as useless as a cat | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: this is true - actually cats are more useful since they can be mage into violin strings ;) | |
| <thoreauputic> *made | |
| <ThePizzaKing_> hehehe | |
| <siccness> :P well i love cats :) | |
| * thoreauputic decides all the animal lovers are now checking his IP | |
| <thoreauputic> actually I'm a sucker for cute animals | |
| *** ThePizzaKing_ is now known as ThePizzaKing | |
| <siccness> yup, same | |
| <thoreauputic> does anyone else have this problem: I have real trouble deciding to close browser tabs, because I keep thinking one of them might turn out to be useful in aminute... | |
| <thoreauputic> currently 25 tabs open... | |
| <siccness> i have the problem of closing the wrong tabs | |
| <onefang> Undo close tab. | |
| <thoreauputic> heh - 28 ( I can't count evidently) | |
| <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, same... And for that I often end up with > 150 :/ | |
| <elkbuntu> thoreauputic, firefox now has tab history | |
| <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: now that's really over the top :) | |
| <Fujitsu> thoreauputic, yeah, it can be. | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: yes I know - the problem exists between ketboard and chair in my case ;) | |
| <siccness> i also have the issue of opening the wrong window from the gnome-panel | |
| <siccness> so i find myself clicking through about 10 of them to find out which one i want | |
| <thoreauputic> heh and I even typoed "keyboard" | |
| <elkbuntu> you're on a roll tonight thoreauputic | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: :) Sorry I'll shut up now ... | |
| <elkbuntu> thoreauputic, hehe | |
| <yama> Tab Mix Plus, people! | |
| <yama> awesome tabs manager | |
| <yama> http://tmp.garyr.net/ | |
| <thoreauputic> /cs mute thoreauputic | |
| <siccness> Should I get a set of white wall tyres? Are you gonna cruise the miracle mile? :D | |
| <yama> oh my god, I recognise those lyrics | |
| <siccness> Thankfully :) | |
| <yama> does that make me sad or cool? | |
| <siccness> Billy Joel - It's Still Rock and Roll To Me :) | |
| <siccness> makes you cool for knowing the song | |
| <yama> :) | |
| <siccness> a song that pretty much all should know :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> bloody pos netgear modem :| | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> dies in the arse every time tehres a brownout | |
| <yama> sounds like you need a UPS | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i do, my desktops on it. | |
| <onefang> SOunds like you need a better UPS. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> modems 20~m away though | |
| <yama> extension cod? | |
| <yama> s/cod/cord/ | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i'd have to get a new ups, running an extention isnt practical | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> but i cant afford a ups | |
| <siccness> run the extension through the roof | |
| <siccness> plug it at each-side of the wall | |
| <siccness> (if you can get $$ for a UPS) | |
| <yama> we need wireless electricity :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, its the 15m of outside thats the problem, not roof. | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: get a white pipe | |
| <siccness> travel it through | |
| <siccness> up into the roof | |
| <siccness> down into the house | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, that sounds more expensive (including effort) then buying a new ups. | |
| <siccness> effort? bugger-all. You could do it in about 30minutes. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> /you/ might be able to, /i/ cant :P | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> im sure you got a mate who could give you a hand | |
| <siccness> really, it's a nice clean professional way of doing it. | |
| <siccness> You'll be satisfied with how nice it is in the end :) | |
| <siccness> or just do it my style, just run the extension outside, through a window of the house :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, i'v already had the cat 5 run like that.... how do you think i'm here ? ;), just getting another duct for electricty, just to power a modem, is silly | |
| <siccness> you got powerpoints in the shed yeah (for your computer)? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, yeh, i had clean power put in specially for the cojmp | |
| <siccness> just overload it with a few double adapters | |
| <siccness> throw the modem there | |
| <siccness> throw the ups there | |
| <siccness> :D | |
| <DaemonTW> heh, I have systems at work that have UPS + backup generators... but none of it matters when it's struck by lightning :( | |
| <yama> then you need a phone line there as well | |
| <siccness> DaemonTW: Heh | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: start breeding gerbils and use them to power a generator | |
| <siccness> ahh adsl? | |
| <siccness> damn | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, i cant put the modem here, theres only one phone plug, and the modems plugged into it | |
| <siccness> run the telephone line | |
| <DaemonTW> the thousands that are spend to provide reliable, redundant power and mother nature decides to step in | |
| <siccness> through to the shed :D | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser smacks siccness up for silly ideas about cabling | |
| <siccness> alright in your case it's just not worth it, Kamping_Kaiser :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :P | |
| <siccness> Build a granny-flat out the back | |
| <siccness> and setup everything out there | |
| <siccness> then use the shed for home-brew kit | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> then i'd need to run a second phone line @ $30/month | |
| <onefang> Solar panels, wind generators, batteries. | |
| * thoreauputic has his router on the shortest possible lead to the phone plug despite having disgustingly fast adsl2, just in case he can get an extra few bytes/sec | |
| <siccness> yea but you get a separate area for the brew, it's worth it Kamping_Kaiser :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, hardly :O | |
| <siccness> then build a wall-in freezer in the shed | |
| <Tatey> <3 theming desktop | |
| <siccness> with piping to you granny flat | |
| <siccness> so the beer flows to you | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> back in 10 | |
| <yama> why don't you move into the shed? | |
| <yama> who needs a house? :) | |
| <siccness> im with yama on this one | |
| <onefang> Tatey: E17. B-) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> yama, i cant... its not allowd by law... however i just hapen to 'almost live here'.... ;) | |
| <siccness> with a shed you get to hear the rain drops better | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> back in 10 though... | |
| <siccness> wtf? what kind of crappy law is that | |
| <Tatey> onefang: heh, Openbox here | |
| <yama> siccness: It's to stop overcrowding with the garden gnomes | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: you expect the constabulary to rouse you from sleep in your shed and frogmarch you to a cell ? | |
| <siccness> i wonder if the world-wide-web will ever be replaced | |
| <Tatey> I already replaced it | |
| <Tatey> with newspaper | |
| <Tatey> :P | |
| <siccness> tateys-kingdom doesnt count :P | |
| <Tatey> it's tateyland, I'll have you know :P | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: sooner or later all those tubes will gum up .... | |
| <onefang> Does Second Life count? | |
| <siccness> Tatey: haha | |
| <Tatey> onefang: then we'll have to start gambling to clear the pipes | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic, no i dont. | |
| <siccness> I might start designing the plans for my house | |
| <Tatey> nice | |
| <siccness> how big should my beer garden be | |
| <cafuego_> siccness: hmm. think fairly sized public park. | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <siccness> so the house will be about 2m x 2m | |
| <siccness> just about enough room for a bed | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, bed'n'bar | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <siccness> the barbie will be about 6m | |
| <siccness> the second barbie will be about the same | |
| <siccness> the bar will be about 12m | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <siccness> ahh shit, i forgot to put a bedroom in :| | |
| <siccness> and a toilet/bathroom | |
| <onefang> Sleep on the floor. | |
| <siccness> but atleast i got two bars, a cinema, two bbqs and a pool room | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, just sleep ona pool table | |
| <thoreauputic> siccness: what's a bathroom ? | |
| * thoreauputic whistles a little geek tune | |
| <siccness> thoreauputic: beats me, i though the garden and hose is the way to go | |
| <thoreauputic> :D | |
| <siccness> I should become a house-designer, every aussie would want this house | |
| <elkbuntu> lol | |
| <Cyvros> Good evening, all. | |
| <siccness> evening | |
| <Cyvros> Hello! How're you? | |
| <siccness> on top of the world, yourself? | |
| <Cyvros> Just about the same. :D | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :) | |
| <Cyvros> Hiya, Kamping Kaiser. How're you? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Cyvros, filling my car with stuff to take with me while i housesit | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: should i have the garage go directly into my bedroom, or into the kitchen area? | |
| <Cyvros> Sorry, BBL. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, know what comes out of the back of cars? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> know how it can kill you? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> know what i think? its not a good thing to have in a kitchen *or* bedroom | |
| <siccness> well, the only other way to get to the bedroom is via Bar #2, which means you cant get to bed without being tempted by a frothy beer | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> thats a bad thing? | |
| <siccness> so, the beer will kill me, or the gasses from a car | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> your liver grows back, your lungs dont | |
| <onefang> There is something to be said for open plan living. B-) | |
| <siccness> onefang: so far the house has 5 rooms LOL | |
| <siccness> pool room, bedroom, cinema, kitchen area, bathroom | |
| <onefang> When I was thinking of buying the house I was living in at the time, I planned to just knock down every wall that wasn't needed to hold up the roof. | |
| <siccness> ahh shit, i forgot about support for the roof | |
| <onefang> lol | |
| <siccness> the outside table is bigger than the kitchen | |
| <siccness> i dont think this is very well designed at all | |
| <siccness> onefang: i guess ill have to have giant support beams in random places :D | |
| <DaemonTW> grr, the flash player 9 is pretty damn buggy with myspace stuff | |
| <siccness> http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/2558/myhousejp6.png <--my house :D | |
| <lucychili> very uk | |
| <lucychili> they don't do laundries either =) | |
| <siccness> Ahh shit | |
| <siccness> forgot about that | |
| <lucychili> hee | |
| <onefang> lol | |
| <lucychili> so outsource | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, hm. i think your scale is a bit bust :O | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: yup | |
| <siccness> but also "no" at the same time. | |
| <onefang> Did you put in ANYTHING that required plumbing? | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <lucychili> draw your dreamhome karl | |
| <lucychili> =) | |
| <siccness> actually, the laundy is in the garage now | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lucychili, with or without autocad :| | |
| <lucychili> hee | |
| <siccness> why is my garage smaller than my bars :| | |
| <lucychili> with something like siccness hgas done | |
| <lucychili> you drive a mini? | |
| <siccness> no, the garage will be big enough for a hummer | |
| <siccness> this bar is massive, sweeeet. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, what are you using to draw that? | |
| <siccness> GIMP, lol. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> gimp? i cant use taht! | |
| <siccness> Took me atleast 30mins to work out what the hell a layer was | |
| <lucychili> you have passed your bronze ingot karl | |
| <lucychili> and presumably can draw a room | |
| <lucychili> or a house | |
| <lucychili> .. | |
| <siccness> but you're right, the scale is off by a mile. Considering the cinema is about as big as those ones you pay $15 for. | |
| * lucychili goes to try and draw a bendy house | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lucychili, with draw? hm. | |
| <siccness> not to mention the poolroom is about as big as an actual pool-hall. | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser mutters about using oo.o draw for architectural work | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> i found another issue, theres no door for people to get outside | |
| <siccness> maybe anotehr bar inside the cinema? | |
| * onefang slaps siccness over the head with an "Architecture for Dummies" book. | |
| <siccness> i might show this to some architecture bloke, see if he says the roof-structure will be an issue | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> stuff draw. i'll do it in asci | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <thoreauputic> elkbuntu: may I /msg you ? | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: i just noticed the BBQ was bigger than garage and bedroom put together, haahha | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol siccness | |
| <elkbuntu> thoreauputic, most certainly | |
| <thoreauputic> thanks | |
| <onefang> Plan on BBQing some elephants? | |
| <siccness> onefang: If you met my family, then yes :) | |
| <onefang> lol | |
| <siccness> my uncle weighs 160kg, my grandfather weighs about the same | |
| <siccness> BIG BIG blokes. | |
| <siccness> although 160 is a bit of an exaggeration, but around that | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> WOOT! I just wrote the header block | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> 369 characters, and still havent started the design | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <siccness> So by the time you've finished, my dream house will be completed? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> roughly that timeframe | |
| <siccness> behind my 60m bar :| | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :/ | |
| <siccness> i wonder if a toilet wall costs much | |
| <onefang> You're designing 60m bars and cinemas that can hold hundreds, and you are worrying about the cost of a toilet wall? Nail a blanket to the ceiling. B-) | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <siccness> what are those toilet wall things called? | |
| <siccness> (the ones where you stand in the male toilets) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> what wet areas are needed? kitchen, wc, laundry,... ? | |
| <siccness> whats a wc? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> dunny | |
| <siccness> whats it stand for? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> water closet | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc | |
| <siccness> the bar, Kamping_Kaiser | |
| <siccness> thats a wet area | |
| * Cyvros tumbles up from the cellar. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, yes, but its not a plummed wet area | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> although..... | |
| <Cyvros> What can I say? I'm a showman. | |
| * Cyvros wanders off. | |
| <siccness> it will be, you need to have the beer flow from the garage brew | |
| <siccness> ahh damn it, i forgot the shed | |
| <onefang> Just design the house so that you can just hose everything down. Makes cleaning easier, and you don't need sinks, bathtubs, or showers. | |
| <siccness> ahh damn it, forgot the shower | |
| <Hobbsee> heh | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser debates merging bar+hacking zone+lounge | |
| <siccness> i believe i also forgot a place to put a computer | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> bhahaha | |
| <siccness> guess it'll have to be behind the bar :D | |
| <onefang> That's just inexcusable. | |
| <siccness> with a POS system hooked to it, so people can pay for drinks | |
| <Cyvros> Qick question: SATA isn't a brand, is it? | |
| <siccness> No. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <Cyvros> Quick* | |
| <siccness> SATA = Serial ATA | |
| <Cyvros> Another quick question - what would I need to install a HDD? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hah! i'v broken the 1000 characters barrier! | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: Ahhhh. Thank you. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Cyvros, screw driver | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: Depends | |
| <Cyvros> Thank you, both. | |
| <Cyvros> My brother (usually does the upgrades for me) is, er, slightly unresponsive at the moment, so I'm attempting to undertake some PC DIY. | |
| <siccness> You'll either need: SATA cable/motherboard with spare SATA port, or a spare IDE connector on your motherboard | |
| <siccness> (with a spare IDE cable) | |
| <Cyvros> Okay. | |
| <Cyvros> I'm going to have to write that down somewhere. | |
| <siccness> Entirely dependant on the hard-drive | |
| <siccness> that and a screwdriver, and few screws, but again, that depends on your case-design :) | |
| <Cyvros> Yes. It's the spare from a friend - he doesn't want or need it anymore, so he's giving it to me. | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: Thanks. :D | |
| <siccness> Where do I meet this friend of yours? :) | |
| <Cyvros> Erm... it's a big grey thing with a Pacman motif... for some reason. | |
| <Cyvros> Ha! Not so fast. :P | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <Cyvros> He's into laptops big time these days. | |
| <Cyvros> Unfortunately, he gave away two sticks of 512meg RAM (probably DDR) last year to another friend of his. | |
| <Cyvros> So I missed out on that. I'm intending to trial an 80 gig paging file under Windows first before (re)installing Ubuntu or Xubuntu on it. | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: There's guides all over the internet to help you install a hard-drive. Just a quick search on google with "Installing a hard-drive" will result in numerous links :) | |
| <Cyvros> Righteo. Thanks. | |
| <Cyvros> I just realised... I've got logging. I don't need to write this down! | |
| <siccness> Heheh | |
| <siccness> The only annoying thing about installing a hard-drive is connecting cables/changing the jumpers. My case is full of crap so I can't see what I'm doing, so for me it's trial-and-error until it works :) | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser is <2 rooms in :| | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: Looking good :D | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: Ah. I *think* mine is pretty clean. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :) | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: also important to note your powersupply and what output it is. Although a hard-drive probably wouldn't overload it. | |
| <Cyvros> This is great. I'm confident. I've never so much as touched anything past the frame before, so I should be fine. Should I never return, please feel free to assume I've gone and killed myself in a remarkably ludicrous way. | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <siccness> Just make sure the computer is off when doing it :P | |
| <siccness> I wouldn't recommend hotswapping it :P | |
| <Cyvros> Errrrrr... might just try and contact my brother again.... just in case. | |
| <Cyvros> Thaaaaanks... what's hotswapping? | |
| <siccness> Hotswapping - connecting a device while the computer is running | |
| <Cyvros> Sorry. I'm horrible with three things in life - hardware, programming and sprouts. | |
| <siccness> Often used for servers :) | |
| <siccness> so no down-time on them | |
| <Cyvros> Ah, okay. Thanks. :) | |
| <onefang> Cyvros: Just pull the power cord out of the computer first, much safer. | |
| <Cyvros> Yes, I don't think I'll do that. | |
| <Cyvros> Onefang: Thanks. | |
| <siccness> and touch the case before going in | |
| <Cyvros> Static? | |
| <siccness> you got it :) | |
| <Cyvros> Heyyyyyyyyy! I got something right! | |
| <siccness> ;-) | |
| <onefang> There's hope for you yet. | |
| <Cyvros> Thanks for all this! :D | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness, Onefang, Kamping Kaiser: Thank you. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *grin* sic's the one doing the helping :) | |
| <Cyvros> Heh heh. | |
| <Cyvros> :D | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :D | |
| <siccness> Not a problem at all mate. Good luck with it. If there's any issue, (use a spare computer and come back here). | |
| <Cyvros> Oh, and one more question before I retire into obscurity - assuming that the HDD (which my friend hasn't tested - he thinks it's all right) works and I don't kill myself, etc., how big a swap partition (is that the term?) would I need and how big a partition would I need for Ubuntu itself? | |
| <Cyvros> Thanks. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> swap is 1.5x ram, or 1 gig, whichever is smaller | |
| <siccness> Most people follow some rediculously stupid formula to calculate the swap | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> (blatent rule of thumb) | |
| <Cyvros> Ah, thank you, both. Would 5 gigs be way too much? | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser has more swap then ram | |
| <siccness> Definitely too big. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> yes | |
| <Cyvros> So no showing off, then? ;) | |
| <siccness> Heheh | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hehew | |
| <siccness> How big is the hard-drive? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> *hehe | |
| <Cyvros> 80 gigs, apparently. | |
| <siccness> all for ubuntu? | |
| <siccness> or you got windows happenin for it too? | |
| <Cyvros> XP is on a 10 gig partition on my old 20 gig HDD. | |
| <siccness> ok, here's how i'd set it up | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> just autopartition o_0 | |
| <Cyvros> All of my files are in the 9 gigs left over on that and my other 80 gig HDD. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> save your brain | |
| <siccness> = 9GB | |
| <Cyvros> Kamping_Kaiser: LOL. | |
| <siccness> ..: / = 9GB, swap = 1GB, /home = 70GB | |
| <siccness> :) | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: Righteo. Thanks. | |
| <Cyvros> Since almost 90 gig of my stuff is stored in NTFS-formatted partitions, is it possible to access (and, if even more possible (is that possible?) to write as well) these files from Ubuntu? | |
| <Cyvros> I know a couple of distros allow read-only access - there's one I use occasionally, Puppy Linux, that does it fairly well. | |
| <siccness> You can read NTFS fine | |
| <Cyvros> Or should I just see if I can convert it to FAT? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> all distros can read | |
| <Cyvros> Wonderful! | |
| <siccness> You CAN write to it, however | |
| <Cyvros> Really? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> with ntfs3g you can do write | |
| <siccness> I personally don't like it :) | |
| <siccness> It rooted my windows setup over. | |
| <siccness> Although, it saved windows screwin itself over | |
| <siccness> so i was ok by it | |
| <Cyvros> Kamping_Kaiser: That's even better! I downloaded it only last night. :D | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: the issue with FAT is that there's no file permissions and there's a file-size limit. | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: Ah. Buggery. So I should stick to NTFS, then? | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: Oh. Never realised. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> fat is crap | |
| <siccness> FAT is pretty shit, really :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> its not posible to abuse fat to much | |
| <siccness> I'd rather take my chances writing to NTFS than to use fat. | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: There's also an ext-driver for Windows, so you can read EXT2/3 file systems from Windows. | |
| <Cyvros> Righteo. Thank you for that, both of you. | |
| <Cyvros> I downloaded that a while ago, too. | |
| <siccness> Ah cool :) | |
| <Cyvros> Awesome! I've bluffed my way into a state of slight preparedness! | |
| <onefang> lol | |
| <siccness> heh :) | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. 2/3rd of the way to finished :D | |
| <Cyvros> Kamping_Kaiser: May I be so bold as to ask what you're doing? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Cyvros, making a (rough) house plan in ascii | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: It won't be as good as mine. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> OO.o draw shits me to tears, and i dont have any cad installed | |
| <siccness> How many bars you got so far? | |
| <Cyvros> Kamping_Kaiser: Whoa. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, only one. | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: I was thinking of putting another two in mine | |
| <siccness> One for the cinema | |
| <siccness> and one for the pool room | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, i have one in the lounge. i'm debating another one in the hacking space | |
| <siccness> yup | |
| <siccness> do it. | |
| <Cyvros> My. God. I have enough trouble making a rough Zelda map in ASCII. | |
| <siccness> maybe one in the bedroom too :) | |
| <siccness> Zelda map? | |
| <onefang> How about one in the en-suite? | |
| <Cyvros> True, I am completely and awesomely crap at drawing. | |
| <siccness> onefang: i dont even have an en-suite | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: what's a zelda map? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> en-suite? | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: Like the screens you get while playing something like Zelda. | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: ahh mad game | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: beats me what it is | |
| <siccness> sounds like something the poms have | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: I didn't grow up with it, but damn me if it's not cool. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, i would have thought frogs | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: ahh good point, sounds french | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: http://www.abeillehouse.co.uk/users/www.abeillehouse.co.uk/upload/ensuiteaesy1.jpg | |
| <siccness> i could put a bar in the shower | |
| <siccness> maybe a tv too | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> tv? thats kinda retro | |
| <siccness> tv infront of the toilet so i can take a piss without missing the cricket | |
| * purserj is currently watching a b grade 50's sci-fi movie on tv via his myth setup | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, hey, good point | |
| <siccness> maybe even a toilet behind the bar :P | |
| <siccness> saves one having to get up | |
| <siccness> although thats probably not legal | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, put a phone next to it so you can order take away piza ;) | |
| <siccness> Of course. | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm... wonder if i can do doors... | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> grr. how can i represent windows ( | |
| <siccness> My skinny corridor is going to be brick wall from the outside (from the street), but glass all the way to see the outside setting | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> * :( | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i might ahve to redo my legend | |
| <Cyvros> Kamping_Keiser: How about ||? | |
| <Cyvros> Or am I completely missing the point? | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: i'd use this as windows | |
| <siccness> \ | |
| <siccness> \ | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Cyvros, i'm using | for vertical walls, its the horizontals (i'm using - atm) thats the problem | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> perhaps # | |
| <siccness> # is good | |
| <siccness> maybe i shoulda done mine in ascii | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> sweet. much better :) | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser can have windows using - now :) | |
| <Cyvros> Kamping_Keiser: Ah, okay. | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: im checkin out some floor plans on google image, no one has creativity anymore | |
| <Cyvros> Sorry, but my keyboard is about to make its way through my bedroom window. Excuse me for a moment. | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <siccness> theres this one plan, without a barbeque | |
| <siccness> what the hells with that? | |
| <siccness> how do you cook? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> should i substitute | for external walls for # as well? | |
| <siccness> beats me | |
| <Cyvros> Oh, buggery. | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser will have to break 80 chars to have an outside :S | |
| <siccness> whats a parlor? | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: Isn't it like a pantry? | |
| <onefang> More like a lounge room. | |
| <siccness> doubtful, considering this persons "parlor" is about 20m | |
| <Cyvros> Onefang: Ah. | |
| <siccness> ahha lounge room | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: Ha! LOL. | |
| <siccness> ahh shit, i forgot the pantry | |
| <siccness> damn it | |
| <siccness> this house sucks | |
| <Cyvros> Just a survey-esque question: Do any of you use Xubuntu or Kubuntu rather than Ubuntu? | |
| * merlin-linux geek salutes all | |
| <siccness> Dunno, most people dont even use ubuntu :P | |
| <siccness> *most people here | |
| <Cyvros> Hiya, merlin-linux. | |
| <onefang> I use Ubentu. B-) | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: LOL. :D | |
| <siccness> Hey merlin-linux | |
| <DaemonTW> ubuntu here | |
| <merlin-linux> hiya blokes | |
| <Cyvros> Hiya, DaemonTW. | |
| <merlin-linux> Computer: quails-laptop | Distro: Ubuntu 6.10 "edgy" | Processor: 2x @ 800.00Mhz | Model: Intel CPU T2050 @ 1.60GHz | Memory: 1002MB Free: 636MB [▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀] | Diskspace: 73.70GB Free: 65.60GB | Video: Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express @ 1280x800 (24 bpp) | Net: Down: 53.65MB Up: 9.37MB | |
| <siccness> merlin-linux: what do you think of my future house: http://img309.imageshack.us/my.php?image=myhousejp6.png | |
| <Cyvros> Merlin-linux: Oooh... nice. | |
| <merlin-linux> yeah it nice for a laptop | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, http://pastebin.ca/284947 | |
| <siccness> ROFL | |
| <siccness> you just threw your bedroom in the middle of the house, CLASSIC | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: damn it long walk from the bedroom to the toilet | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :P | |
| <Cyvros> Sorry to barge in, Siccness, but that's quite a nice set-up you have there. I hope you don't mind, but I kinda noticed that you have a table larger than your bedroom. | |
| <siccness> merlin-linux: yup, im having a piss-wall in there man | |
| * Cyvros scratches his head. | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser debates moving it 4 chars right | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: hehe | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: mate, the bbq is bigger than the garage/bedroom put together | |
| <siccness> it's how aussies do it | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: my future house is going to be 3 stories high | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: It figures. I don't know too many 'Aussie' Aussies. The perks of being Eurasain. :P | |
| <siccness> nah, you dont want stairs | |
| <merlin-linux> ground, 1st, 2nd levels | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: I also noticed that pool room. Now, I don't play pool myself, but that's a bloody big room. | |
| <siccness> stairs == easily a broken leg from when you're wasted | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: nah elevator | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> if you cant push an alpha into any room, its built wrong :) | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: yup, im thinkin of throwin another bar in there | |
| <Cyvros> Kamping_Keiser: Nice set-up you've got there, too. I like your 'pretty stuff' zone, too. | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: with a server roon right in the middle | |
| <siccness> lol | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: but that when i win the xlotto | |
| <Cyvros> Siccness: *Another* one? Whoa... I don't drink and I'm getting dizzy here. | |
| <siccness> Cyvros: that's the plan. :D | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> :) | |
| <lucychili> sicness ive got one back for you http://lucychili.net/images/house.png | |
| <siccness> soon as you walk into house, you'll smell freshly brewed beer | |
| <siccness> ahh the joys | |
| <siccness> wtf is that? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lol | |
| <lucychili> =) | |
| <lucychili> alt.perfection.architecture | |
| <siccness> how do you jump from the lounge to the kitchen? | |
| <lucychili> i did it with inkscape so youll have to guess the rooms join | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl | |
| <siccness> and why are there trees in the house | |
| <siccness> who puts a tree in a house :| | |
| <lucychili> they are outside | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: with a multi story home you have to have the entertainment area on ground level | |
| <lucychili> its a courtyard bit | |
| <siccness> who puts trees outside? | |
| <siccness> :P | |
| <lucychili> me | |
| <lucychili> i like trees | |
| <lucychili> i could probably even tell you what types they are | |
| <Cyvros> lucychili: That's... unique. Reminds me of something on the New Inventors a couple of months ago. A rotating house idea - great design and implementation. But I'm getting sidetracked here. It looks like a seashell. | |
| <siccness> LOL | |
| <Cyvros> lucychili: That's an awesomely-sized lounge room, too. | |
| <lucychili> yeh well seashells are just monsai architecture | |
| * Kamping_Kaiser is impressed how well ascii art works for doing designs | |
| <lucychili> we do technests | |
| <lucychili> we need a few big spaces | |
| <Cyvros> lucychili: Technests? | |
| <siccness> merlin-linux: yeah multi-story houses you keep everyone the floor | |
| <siccness> so they dont sue yuo if they break their legs going down/up stairs | |
| <lucychili> think installfest but random tech activity | |
| <lucychili> like a day barcamp | |
| <lucychili> with soup | |
| <lucychili> or random scarey food | |
| <siccness> how many bedrooms are normal for a house? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> and shes not joking about scary food :S | |
| <lucychili> 3 is usually good | |
| <siccness> 3 hmm | |
| <siccness> where can i put 3 in mine, lucychili? | |
| <lucychili> 4-5-6 is youre going big | |
| <Cyvros> lucychili: ... Installfest? | |
| <lucychili> put software on hardware as a social event | |
| <lucychili> and learning experience | |
| <lucychili> technest is a barcamp without the sleepover and sponsorshi[ | |
| <lucychili> ie its byo | |
| <lucychili> with a bit of house provides | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> wb | |
| <Cyvro1> Thank you. | |
| <Cyvro1> Panicked for a moment there. | |
| <Cyvro1> Oh, buggery. | |
| <lucychili> siccness do a row of bedrooms and a row of garage and stash rooms | |
| <siccness> i got a cool idea actually | |
| <siccness> in the cinema, i can have toilets | |
| <siccness> and those stupid "Exit" signs | |
| <lucychili> heh | |
| <merlin-linux> hehe | |
| <siccness> and row numbers | |
| <lucychili> nice ascii house karl | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lucychili, :) | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: so what cad shit is there to do this properly? | |
| <lucychili> our alt plan is sequences of spiegel tents | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, i'm trained in autocad, on linux theres a few, one is qcad | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> autocads rather proprietary though. | |
| <siccness> how much is autocad? | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> few $K | |
| <lucychili> cad man was at linuxsa tonight | |
| <lucychili> brian | |
| <siccness> no, how much in mb so i can illegally download it :P | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, nfi | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> i had a cd, i didnt have to dl :P | |
| <siccness> maybe theres a trial version | |
| <lucychili> brian does foss cad | |
| <siccness> whos brian> | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> lucychili, cool. wonder what he uses | |
| <lucychili> chappie does cad for wineries in the barossa | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> siccness, trail maybe, i dont think so though | |
| <lucychili> ask on linuxsa im sure he would be happy to say | |
| <lucychili> nice chap | |
| <lucychili> wants to start barossa lug | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> cool :) | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: maybe I should make a sports bar/lounge | |
| <lucychili> but we need to borg more people in his region | |
| <merlin-linux> lucychili: i can help you getting a borossa lug going | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. i just realised a HURD user group would be a "HUG" :D | |
| <Cyvro1> Yay! I left! | |
| <siccness> Kamping_Kaiser: lol | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> Cyvro1, you could have killed yourself | |
| <lucychili> merlin only if you are prepared to go | |
| <Cyvro1> Kamping_Kaiser: Damn, should've tried that. | |
| <merlin-linux> lucychili: i will be going up there soon to catchup with my uncle and he a full on linux geek | |
| <lucychili> ok | |
| <merlin-linux> lucychili: he that much a geek he does not use gui | |
| <lucychili> well if its just a visit then probably dont need to start a lug but should do a drift like lunch or something | |
| <merlin-linux> lucychili: he coming here on boxing day | |
| <siccness> merlin-linux: watchin the boxing day cricket test? | |
| <lucychili> pick a cafe somewhere in the barossa or a pub with room for you to sit and chat and post to linuxsa that youll go and hang out there with tech for an afternoon | |
| <lucychili> cool | |
| <merlin-linux> lucychili: and then i going to go up there a couple weeks later | |
| <lucychili> cool | |
| <lucychili> when will you be in the barossa - dates | |
| <merlin-linux> lucychili: not sure yet | |
| <lucychili> ok | |
| <lucychili> im back first week of jan | |
| <merlin-linux> lucychili: my uncle works for the government | |
| <lucychili> gone 3rd week of jan | |
| <lucychili> so i can do something up there early jan | |
| <merlin-linux> lucychili: i will talk and arrange | |
| <lucychili> call it a bettong meet if you like | |
| <lucychili> np | |
| <lucychili> geek meet | |
| <merlin-linux> yep | |
| <lucychili> we need a bettong meet around then too | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: no | |
| <lucychili> so might be able to merge | |
| <merlin-linux> siccness: but might have it on in the background | |
| <merlin-linux> lucychili: np | |
| <merlin-linux> lucychili: i am going to try get my uncle down for barcamp | |
| <merlin-linux> just as a visitor | |
| <merlin-linux> lucychili: i don't think my uncle got the time to run a lug, but i think he will go when has the time | |
| <merlin-linux> lucychili: he does do a lot of work up north | |
| <merlin-linux> and can be away from home up to a month at a time | |
| <merlin-linux> and for finding a place to have a meeting etc up there i just have to talk to my uncle and he can tell me the best place | |
| <Cyvro1> G'nite, all. Thanks for the great chat. | |
| <Cyvro1> And all the help, too! | |
| <merlin-linux> nite | |
| * Cyvro1 wheels in a large trolley of finest EU-approved pillows. | |
| <Cyvro1> I call them CyPillows N. | |
| <merlin-linux> hehe | |
| <jfrench> Who knows if I can instal beryl just the same on Kubuntu as i can on ubuntu | |
| <Cyvros> Good morning, all. | |
| <onefang> All isn't here, it's just me and the chickens. | |
| <Cyvros> Hehe. Morning, Onefang. | |
| <Cyvros> Do the chickens enjoy... muesli? | |
| <stanna> good morning all | |
| <Cyvros> Good morning, Stanna. | |
| <stanna> i just found this channel and group thing | |
| <stanna> loco | |
| <Cyvros> I just found it last night. :D | |
| <stanna> :) | |
| <stanna> i have 2 quick little questions if you could help me possibly? | |
| <Cyvros> Probably not, since I'm a well-rounded noob, but I can try. | |
| <Cyvros> :) | |
| <stanna> why wont totem, vlc, mplayer play avi/wmv/mpeg files from a network drive for me? | |
| <stanna> im in ubuntu, trying to play them from my server which is also ubuntu | |
| <Cyvros> Er... sorry, I can't help with that one. | |
| <stanna> and wmv doesnt even work anyway | |
| <stanna> ok no worries dude :) | |
| <purserj> stanna: you probably haven't got the right codecs installed | |
| <purserj> They don't ship with the installer disc due to copyright issues | |
| <stanna> i went thru the ubuntuguide.org on how to install the codecs, some wmv work others dont | |
| <stanna> i think maby because of wm9 or something like that, i think it mentioned everything works except wmv. | |
| <purserj> sounds about right | |
| <stanna> but mainly i want to know why the movie files wont play over the network | |
| <Lathiat> dont forget DRMd wmvs | |
| <purserj> not sure about the network issue | |
| <stanna> none of these are drm.. or if they were the drm has been removed | |
| <stanna> strange, the network thing | |
| <stanna> im running edgy. but i had the same problem when i had dapper | |
| <stanna> with totem, it says "could not read from resource" | |
| <stanna> not the most important thing in the world tho, would of been nice for convieniance | |
| <stanna> thanks guys | |
| <stanna> also need a good acdsee type program for ubuntu | |
| <Lathiat> when you say "over the network" | |
| <Lathiat> what method are you using to access it over the network? | |
| <stanna> nautilus | |
| <Lathiat> but like what | |
| <Lathiat> ssh:// smb:// | |
| <Lathiat> ? | |
| <stanna> smb | |
| <Lathiat> which movie player? | |
| <stanna> iv tried totem, vlc and mplayer | |
| <Kamping_Kaiser> <stanna> why wont totem, vlc, mplayer play avi/wmv/mpeg files from a network drive for me? <- are you using gfs? |
