| <OkinawaInstructo> somerville32: now its saying failed to create enough free space (i've got 18G of free space), sorry i am still new at using linux | |
| <magic_ninja> has anyone found any good documentation on installing xubuntu from a command line via a boot floppy (similar to mini iso - I have no burner available, just floppies) | |
| <somerville32> OkinawaInstructo, Thats really rather odd. | |
| <TheSheep> magic_ninja: do the same as for ubuntu | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> magic_ninja: There's some documentation at.... | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> !netboot | |
| <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues | |
| <OkinawaInstructo> if there is one thing i have learned its if it can go wrong it will | |
| <TheSheep> buggy installer is so embarassing :( | |
| <OkinawaInstructo> a friend and i installed kubuntu before and took a few days to get it to work, i think its just my lap top | |
| <magic_ninja> PuMpErNiCkEl: read it, but it doesn't really give the source of a boot floppy, or at least not sure which to use | |
| <somerville32> OkinawaInstructo, Possibly. | |
| <somerville32> Might try alternative cd | |
| <SpooK> hey folks | |
| <somerville32> Has the more mature installer | |
| <MUTU> Which window manager has the most fancy (and mostly useless) effects? | |
| <somerville32> Hey SpooK | |
| <magic_ninja> hah my cat's name is SpooK | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> magic_ninja: Do you have a cd reader? | |
| <OkinawaInstructo> somerville32: do you know where i can down load one? | |
| <magic_ninja> no offense though :-) | |
| <magic_ninja> PuMpErNiCkEl: yes i do | |
| <SpooK> none taken ;) | |
| <somerville32> OkinawaInstructo, Same place you downloaded the the live cd | |
| <somerville32> Just select the alternative iso | |
| <OkinawaInstructo> cool thanks | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> magic_ninja: What OS are you using now? | |
| <magic_ninja> PuMpErNiCkEl: i was thinking of a command line where I could comment out the CD repos and use net repos to install x-system-core xubuntu gdm or such | |
| <magic_ninja> PuMpErNiCkEl: edgy 6.10 on laptop, my comp WITH a burner is in shambles, it needs OS reinstalled | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> If you have an install cd, you can use SBM from a floppy to boot and install. | |
| <magic_ninja> PuMpErNiCkEl: SBM? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> If it's a different ubuntu variant, you can install the base and get the xubuntu-desktop metapackage from the repositories. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Smart Boot Manager | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Hang on a sec, I'll link... | |
| <magic_ninja> i have a live cd though | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm | |
| <MUTU> Oh no. xubuntu's already giving me problems. Seriously, the only thing I did after I booted from my first install was to do shut down, and it froze. | |
| <wasp_ems> when i write top in the konsole..how can i check and see what is using the most memory or the most cpu? | |
| <somerville32> Press "O" | |
| <somerville32> then select the letter corresponding to the item you'd like the list to be sorted by | |
| <TheSheep> o | |
| <TheSheep> again | |
| <wasp_ems> it went to the end | |
| <MUTU> what to do when you click shutdown and you get the progressbar but it doesn't show any progress at all? | |
| <wasp_ems> ok found it than | |
| <wasp_ems> x | |
| <MUTU> the optical mouse light did go off, but the progress bar didn't... progress. | |
| <TheSheep> MUTU: it's like 90%? | |
| <MUTU> it's like 0% | |
| <TheSheep> %) | |
| <TheSheep> MUTU: you mean it didn't even start moving? | |
| <MUTU> not at all | |
| <MUTU> and it's gone very quiet | |
| <MUTU> the optical mouse light is off | |
| <MUTU> guess off goes the plug, eh? | |
| <TheSheep> looks like it it disabled everything it could, but failed to shut down power | |
| <TheSheep> MUTU: it worked before? | |
| <MUTU> this was the very first boot | |
| <MUTU> i just booted and the only thing i did was shutdown | |
| <MUTU> though i did leave that session checkbox ticked | |
| <wasp_ems> im a bit confused..in superkaramba it is saying that i am using all my memory..in the top menu it does not seem to add up to 100%..however the computer is going a bit slowly | |
| <MUTU> do i give it a hard shutdown? | |
| <wasp_ems> basically both cpu and ram are 100% | |
| <Seveas> @config channel plugins.bantracker.stats True | |
| <somerville32> Thanks! :) | |
| <TheSheep> MUTU: not much choice | |
| <MUTU> k | |
| <MUTU> I'll be right back, taking the laptop to a network point to set up the network, if i manage. | |
| <wasp_ems> any ideas | |
| <Seveas> @config channel plugins.bantracker.enabled True | |
| <SpooK> hey folks, I realise the minimum specs of xubuntu, but out of interest - I'm thinking of installing it on a 333mhz/128mb machine, does anyone have experience running on similar hardware? | |
| <somerville32> Yes | |
| <somerville32> I have the _exact_ same hardware ;] | |
| <SpooK> ah great, how do you find the performance? | |
| <somerville32> Acceptable :] | |
| <SpooK> currently running Win 98se on there with bblean, d'you reckon I'd see an improvement for general stuff like web browsing? | |
| <magic_ninja> SpooK: mabye, mabye not | |
| <SpooK> ah yeah, I realise it's all relative.. hopefully I'll get round to installing it and finding out soon | |
| <SpooK> cheers for the info folks, catch you later | |
| <magic_ninja> SpooK: try this --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313406 | |
| <magic_ninja> ahhh | |
| <silvertip257> hello | |
| <somerville32> He | |
| <somerville32> +y | |
| <JKnife> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=315187 :) XFCE > KDE | |
| <silvertip257> anybody know stuff about dual head setups? | |
| <somerville32> !dual-head | |
| <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead | |
| <somerville32> :] | |
| <JKnife> !seen maxamillion | |
| <JKnife> =\ | |
| <ubotu> I last saw maxamillion (n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) 2h 4m 29s ago, quiting: "leaving" | |
| <silvertip257> Jknife max wasnt able to help me | |
| <JKnife> ohh | |
| <silvertip257> mmhmm | |
| <phlasphy|away> hey ellioTb | |
| <ellioTb> what up phlasphy|away | |
| *** phlasphy|away is now known as phlasphy | |
| <phlasphy> nothing u | |
| <ellioTb> chillin in another state | |
| <ellioTb> bout to go slam some food | |
| <phlasphy> another state? | |
| <ellioTb> yeah, my sister is graduating | |
| <phlasphy> ok kewl | |
| <dust> I've got both the vlc and the totem plugins installed in firefox as well as the w32codecs, but when I open pages with wmv movies like this one http://politiken.dk/poltv/?ExtID=1237 it just says (no movie).. | |
| <dust> weird thing is, in vlc the movies play just fine if I dig for the url manually | |
| <phlasphy> ellioTb, join #offtopic | |
| <phlasphy> well xubuntu-offtopi | |
| <phlasphy> well xubuntu-offtopic | |
| <ellioTb> i am about to go eat | |
| <somerville32> dust: That must be because that page re-directs to the movie. | |
| <dust> it loads the movie in a iframe, but that itself loads just fine | |
| <dust> I'm suspecting I've got to choose what plugin to use, but I don't know how to do so... | |
| <MUTU> My shutdown problem is persistent. xubuntu appears to shut down, but it doesn't notice that. The progress bar remains at 0%. But the hard drive stops spinning and the optical mouse turns off. Any ideas? | |
| <JKnife> sounds like usplash isn't updating... | |
| <JKnife> really nothing to worry about.. | |
| <somerville32> MUTU: I would search launchpad.net | |
| <MUTU> hmm | |
| <MUTU> I'll check it out tomorrow, it's 2am here. | |
| <MUTU> good night people | |
| <silvertip257> what would the BusID be for an on-board/embedded graphics card ??? (on the mobo) | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: use lspci to find out | |
| <silvertip257> ok TheSheep ... keep talkin 2 me :) | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: open terminal, type "lspci", press enter | |
| <silvertip257> i did | |
| <TheSheep> now find the line with 'VGA' in it | |
| <silvertip257> TheSheep can I go to a private chat to paste a lil of this | |
| <silvertip257> oh ? | |
| <TheSheep> at the beginning of the line you have the busid | |
| <TheSheep> those numbers | |
| <silvertip257> oh | |
| <silvertip257> hmmm well | |
| <silvertip257> i'm trying to edit xorg.conf | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: you don't need to put busid in the xorg.conf | |
| <silvertip257> ok | |
| <silvertip257> umm | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: unless you have more than one graphics card | |
| <silvertip257> i'm trying to do a dual head buddy :0 | |
| <TheSheep> ah, then you need, sorry | |
| <silvertip257> lmao | |
| <silvertip257> TheSheep | |
| <silvertip257> i'm lookin at the lspci | |
| <silvertip257> and well | |
| <TheSheep> anyways, 01:00.0 translates into BusID "PCI:1:0:0" | |
| <TheSheep> for me | |
| <silvertip257> i'm not sure where they get the busid that' i'm seeing in the xorg | |
| <silvertip257> ok | |
| <silvertip257> what about | |
| <silvertip257> 0000:01:0e.0 | |
| <silvertip257> do you know TheSheep? | |
| <TheSheep> PCI:0:1:0e | |
| <TheSheep> probably | |
| <silvertip257> hmm | |
| <silvertip257> lemme look @ the xorg | |
| <silvertip257> that's for the 2nd card too and that monitor doesnt do anything right now | |
| <TheSheep> e is a valid digit, because it's hexadecimal | |
| <silvertip257> yes | |
| <grothesk> Hi! | |
| <silvertip257> listen TheSheep, it syas in xorg that it's on bus 010 and well the card i gave you the lspci stff from isnt in use | |
| <grothesk> What is the minimum system requirement for xubuntu? | |
| <silvertip257> cant say i know | |
| <TheSheep> grothesk: there is no hard minimum | |
| <silvertip257> right | |
| <TheSheep> grothesk: the worse the box, the slower everything will be | |
| <silvertip257> lol | |
| <TheSheep> grothesk: different people consider different speeds acceptable | |
| <grothesk> I'm thinking about putting it on a PII-300 with 128MB. | |
| <silvertip257> what do you think TheSheep of what I have said' | |
| <TheSheep> grothesk: I'm using it on a P90 with 9^MB ram and it's ok until I try to launch more than one app at a time | |
| <silvertip257> good luck grothesk ... tell us how it goes | |
| <TheSheep> 96MB | |
| <TheSheep> sry | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: X will use the card that's listed in the server layout section of xorg | |
| <silvertip257> hmm | |
| <silvertip257> but it's using the onboard/embedded right now | |
| <grothesk> Maybe I should give that beast 256MB Ram. | |
| <silvertip257> sure grothesk | |
| <TheSheep> grothesk: that will help a lot | |
| <grothesk> But SD-RAM ist hard to get these days. I'll have a look at ebay... | |
| <TheSheep> grothesk: my install takes about 70-100MB of ram | |
| <TheSheep> grothesk: that'd leave about 30MB of ram for apps until it starts swapping | |
| <silvertip257> TheSheep ... did you use the alternative? | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: of course | |
| <silvertip257> lol | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: the gui installer is for sissies ;) | |
| <silvertip257> haha | |
| <silvertip257> ok then i'm a sissy :( | |
| <silvertip257> well for now | |
| <silvertip257> TheSheep ... the card it says it's using it cant be using | |
| <silvertip257> or so you have translated from the busid stuffs] | |
| <TheSheep> grothesk: right, download the alternate cd, not the livecd -- it won't work well on low ram | |
| <silvertip257> yea lol | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: maybe you looked at the wrong card? | |
| <silvertip257> nah | |
| <silvertip257> i can tell the diff by the names | |
| <silvertip257> for sure | |
| <silvertip257> TheSheep (onboard VGA) 0000:00:01:0 | |
| <TheSheep> then the other one would be PCI:1:0E:0 | |
| <TheSheep> right? | |
| <silvertip257> it shows up as hat | |
| <silvertip257> *thaqt | |
| <silvertip257> **that | |
| <silvertip257> well something like that in the busid | |
| <silvertip257> hmm ok | |
| <silvertip257> is there anything that I can use to find the highest refreshrate I can set my monitor to ? | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: your monitor's documentation | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: ortrial and error | |
| <silvertip257> dont have that stuff | |
| <silvertip257> ok | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: google for it | |
| <silvertip257> trial/error | |
| <TheSheep> it can destroy some older monitors | |
| <silvertip257> oo | |
| <silvertip257> well then | |
| <silvertip257> we'll see i just clicked restart | |
| <silvertip257> only did 60-100 vert refresh | |
| <TheSheep> silvertip257: you can use xvidtune to change this directly in X, without restarting | |
| <silvertip257> TheSheep ... what do you think will distroy it? an old CRT | |
| <silvertip257> oo ok | |
| <TheSheep> nah, a slight too large frequence shound't hurt | |
| <TheSheep> it's more about some 5-6 years old monitors | |
| <silvertip257> well it's about that old | |
| <TheSheep> there were some models with cheap parts that could 'break' with hight refresh rates | |
| <silvertip257> oo | |
| <TheSheep> but it was like *really* high and for more than several minutes | |
| <silvertip257> TheSheep what's a good setting to unblur it? | |
| <TheSheep> ublur? | |
| <TheSheep> unblur? | |
| <silvertip257> unblur yesss | |
| <TheSheep> if it's blurry then there is something wrong with it already probably | |
| <silvertip257> errr shouldnt be | |
| <silvertip257> umm how bout the vert sync | |
| <TheSheep> can be better in different resolutions/frequencies | |
| <silvertip257> how do i change it | |
| <TheSheep> xvidtune has all sorts of sliders for that | |
| <silvertip257> i see 60 hz | |
| <silvertip257> but where .. is it to change it | |
| <TheSheep> well, just change things | |
| <TheSheep> it will change | |
| <TheSheep> it's dependedt on many things | |
| <JKnife> YAY found another bug | |
| <silvertip257> the ver sync in hertz ok | |
| <JKnife> this one is a universe package though | |
| <JKnife> non of gnome bakers UI works in feisty for me =\ | |
| <silvertip257> k | |
| *** nixternal is now known as OrkinMan | |
| *** OrkinMan is now known as nixternal | |
| <grothesk> Should I go for 6.06.1 or 6.10? | |
| <unikon> dapper | |
| <JKnife> "Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main libthunar-vfs-1-2 0.5.0-0ubuntu1" 0.5.0 right? | |
| <JKnife> "** Message: Using Thunar-VFS 0.3.3" | |
| <grothesk> O.K. Why= | |
| <JKnife> crazy xfburn | |
| <JKnife> grothesk: cause it will be supported longer | |
| <JKnife> and it has less problems | |
| <grothesk> It has? I thought 6.10 would be more mature than 6.06.1 | |
| <JKnife> it isn't | |
| <JKnife> dapper is more stable therefore it earned LTS | |
| <silvertip257> that's right | |
| <grothesk> http://global.aopen.com.tw/Products/mb/ax6lc.htm That is my victim... | |
| <silvertip257> it is much more stable for certain hardware | |
| <unikon> what about fawn though compared to dapper | |
| <JKnife> unikon: NO BAD! | |
| <unikon> is fawn going LTS | |
| <JKnife> do NOT say fawn! | |
| <JKnife> fawn == bad | |
| <unikon> feisty | |
| <JKnife> -_- that is the same thing | |
| <unikon> lol | |
| <unikon> jknife look at this http://parker1.co.uk/satanic/ | |
| * JKnife is away.. work | |
| <grothesk> What is the size of a standard installation of xubuntu? | |
| <jason0_> Anyone in here use xfce-macmenu? | |
| <ellioTb> jason0_, whats that? | |
| <jason0_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1586951 | |
| <jason0_> Not sure how to build it, comes with a PKGBUILD file | |
| *** tonyy is now known as tonyyserver | |
| <Commander-Crowe> hi al | |
| <Commander-Crowe> all* | |
| <OkinawaInstructo> i got xubuntu to install but when i start up all it does is display "starting up" than blink a "_" for about 30 sec and then go to a blank screen.. any sugestions? | |
| <DarthLappy> !vnc | |
| <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> !botsnack | |
| <ubotu> Yum! | |
| <DarthLappy> :O Don't feed the bot! | |
| <DarthLappy> :( Xubuntu 6.10 install failed with terrible dependancy problems. | |
| <ellioTb> !bz2 | |
| <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression | |
| <DarthLappy> Hmm, maybe it's due to an input/output error that I got.... | |
| <ellioTb> !sdl | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <ellioTb> DarthLappy, what vnc are you using? | |
| <DarthLappy> ellioTb: None, at the moment. Gotta get Xubuntu installed... | |
| * ellioTb tries to remember what he uses on his xubuntu server | |
| <DarthLappy> I use TightVNC for Windows though. :P | |
| <unikon> anyone in here use monowall | |
| <Commander|away> I guess thats a no | |
| *** Commander|away is now known as Commander-Crowe | |
| *** nixternal is now known as imniKsternal | |
| *** imniKsternal is now known as nixternal | |
| <troyr23> Anyone here that can help me this time of the night? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> yes | |
| <Commander-Crowe> troyr23, I'm here | |
| <troyr23> Ok. I am having problems trying to watch a DVD movie that I bought | |
| <troyr23> I just installed Xubuntu 6.06 | |
| <Commander-Crowe> did you install the codecs? | |
| <troyr23> I thought they would of game pre-installed? | |
| <troyr23> or when I told it to download kaffeine it would download them | |
| <troyr23> ok. which ones do I need for dvd playback? | |
| <troyr23> when I try to play it. it says "Maybe you don't have enough rights to do this, or source doesn't contain data" | |
| <Commander-Crowe> !codecs | |
| <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | |
| <Commander-Crowe> yeah | |
| <troyr23> does this mean since i'm not root? or codec issue? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> you need the codecs | |
| <Commander-Crowe> Restriced Formats | |
| <Commander-Crowe> look at that | |
| <Commander-Crowe> download win32codecs and libdvdcss2 | |
| <Commander-Crowe> should work | |
| <Commander-Crowe> if it still doesn't install libdvdread and libdvdnav along with vlc | |
| <troyr23> can I find it in Synaptic? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> not the win32codecs or libdvdcss2 | |
| <Commander-Crowe> !sevas | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sevas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <Commander-Crowe> !seveas | |
| <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages | |
| <maxamillion> ? | |
| <Commander-Crowe> troyr23, look at seveas | |
| <troyr23> opps I mean I have 6.10 version | |
| <troyr23> but when I open firefox it sais 6.06 | |
| <Commander-Crowe> even better :) | |
| <troyr23> but i used to 6.10 iso | |
| <Commander-Crowe> open up terminal | |
| <Commander-Crowe> type in this | |
| <Commander-Crowe> cat /etc/issue | |
| <Commander-Crowe> what does it say? | |
| <maxamillion> troyr23: firefox says 6.06 or the documentation opened within firefox says 6.06? | |
| <maxamillion> troyr23: the man power for updated documentation for 6.10 fell short, an error that will not occur in 7.04 :) | |
| <troyr23> opening document | |
| <maxamillion> yeah, you have 6.10 ... just old documentation (that is generally on topic for 6.10, just lacking a couple things) | |
| <troyr23> how do I download and install stuff in termainal | |
| <troyr23> I forgot | |
| <maxamillion> sudo aptitude install <package name> | |
| <troyr23> I get bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline' | |
| <troyr23> oh lol | |
| <troyr23> I added the <> in | |
| <Commander-Crowe> don't | |
| <maxamillion> yeah, sorry ... just a notation | |
| <maxamillion> shoulda just done "sudo aptitude install package_name" | |
| <maxamillion> sorry bout that one | |
| <troyr23> hmm. I tried this and it saus that packages have been kept back | |
| <Commander-Crowe> apt-cache search package_name | |
| <maxamillion> troyr23: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade | |
| <maxamillion> troyr23: that will upgrade anything being held back so you can install the other package | |
| <troyr23> ok it says will take effect after all x servies have stoped | |
| <maxamillion> troyr23: yeah, if you wanna to that now just save everything you might be doing, close all applications and hit ctrl+alt+backspace ... but i will warn you that everything will dissapear for a moment and you will have to log back in | |
| <troyr23> I rebooted the pc anyway lol | |
| <troyr23> 1 think I get that drives me crazy | |
| <troyr23> on startup I get this | |
| <troyr23> Could not look up interner addes for troyborg-laptop This could prevent xfce from operating correctly it is possible to correct this problem but adding troyborg-laptop to the /ect/hosts on your system | |
| <troyr23> what is wrong? | |
| <maxamillion> ermm... thats strange | |
| <troyr23> in networking settings host what should all be in there? | |
| <troyr23> I have all the ip6 aliases | |
| <maxamillion> not sure, i don't use that app ... i'm a command line junkie | |
| <troyr23> and one being troyborg-laptop at 127.0.0.1 | |
| <maxamillion> yeah, that's just local host loopback | |
| <troyr23> it has "ip6-localhost" at ::1 | |
| <troyr23> is it double checking a local loop? | |
| <maxamillion> not sure, i have a very vague concept of ipv6 ... we covered it briefly in cisco networking academy but didn't do much with it since our networks are all ipv4 so they didn't care much to make sure we understood it in depth | |
| <troyr23> do you guys use xubuntu? can't you see what yours has in it and we can see what is wrong with mine? | |
| <maxamillion> yeah, i'm on xubuntu ... lemme take a look | |
| <troyr23> http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1576/hostsjg8.png | |
| <troyr23> thats what mine shows | |
| * maxamillion actually only runs xubuntu on desktops, but debian on servers ... :) | |
| * troyr23 runs windows XP on his gaming desktop and linux on his crappy laptop | |
| <maxamillion> troyr23: that is actually almost exactly what i have ... interesting | |
| <maxamillion> i also have an extra loopback for my wifi interface, but that is just splitting hairs | |
| <troyr23> almost? | |
| <troyr23> oh | |
| <maxamillion> but yeah, other than the second loopback, i have the exact same entries (accept with my hostname and not yours ;) ) | |
| <troyr23> hmm I installed the codecs I thought but it still doesn't work. must of did it wrong | |
| <maxamillion> codecs for what? | |
| * maxamillion must not have been here for that part | |
| <troyr23> dvd playback | |
| <maxamillion> ah .. yeah, that's a gray area because of the way dvd codecs are done ... i believe they are technically illegal (iirc) and thus some projects to make dvd playback more fluent have been shut down | |
| <troyr23> how can dvd codecs be illegal? what makes it that windows can, but linux can't? | |
| <troyr23> will the Dirac-0.6.0 codec work? it is a tar.gz where do i extract it to? | |
| <maxamillion> not sure, i don't do much media on computers ... i use computers for code and xubuntu related business ... i have a tv and a dvd player | |
| <maxamillion> windows pays royalties to companies or something like that to be able to have dvd playback | |
| <troyr23> oh | |
| <maxamillion> because you have to pay for windows, they negate the cost of the licensing costs ... or something of the sort | |
| <maxamillion> i don't know the details mainly because i haven't had the interest to investigate because i don't do much media on linux ... just some music listening when i code | |
| <maxamillion> troyr23: generally wikipedia will answer alot of linux questions you have and if not, then google or the ubuntu forums | |
| <troyr23> ok | |
| <Commander-Crowe> bye all | |
| <Commander-Crowe> gonna go | |
| <maxamillion> laters Commander-Crowe | |
| <Commander-Crowe> later | |
| <maxamillion> troyr23: not trying to discourage question asking in here, i just feel bad when i'm not able to answer questions that are out of my range of knowledge | |
| <troyr23> i'm going to go to sleep soon | |
| *** TheSheep is now known as BaaBeast | |
| <maxamillion> BaaBeast? .... | |
| * maxamillion is confused | |
| <T`2> hi.. anyone know if there is a way to bind to a hostname instead of an address when setting up a ssh tunnel? I have multiple virtual hosts and would like to use them as bind parameters for the same port... | |
| <T`2> kinda offtopic.. sorry | |
| *** tim is now known as tim-- | |
| <MUTU> heya | |
| <maxamillion> hi hi | |
| <MUTU> how can i make xubuntu update the time automatically from a time server? | |
| <maxamillion> MUTU: applications->Settings->time and date->syncronize now | |
| <MUTU> thanks maxamillion | |
| *** cga is now known as cga`afk | |
| <maxamillion> np | |
| *** MUTU is now known as MUTU`afk | |
| *** grothesk_ is now known as grothesk | |
| *** cga`afk is now known as cga | |
| <MUTU> What do I need to do to be able to open a remote desktop connection from Windows XP Pro to xubuntu please? | |
| *** Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch | |
| <MUTU`afk> WWhat do I need to do to be able to open a remote desktop connection from Windows XP Pro to xubuntu please?hat do I need to do to be able to open a remote desktop connection from Windows XP Pro to xubuntu please? | |
| <MUTU`afk> sorry for the double post | |
| *** MUTU`afk is now known as MUTU-xubuntu | |
| <maxamillion> MUTU-xubuntu: sudo aptitude install rdesktop | |
| <maxamillion> MUTU-xubuntu: type that in the command line and then once it is installed type "rdesktop host_name_or_ip_here" at the command line and enjoy :) | |
| <maxamillion> MUTU-xubuntu: i will warn, rdesktop is a little crippled but its the best i know of | |
| <MUTU> i want to do it the other way round | |
| <MUTU> i.e. i want windows to show me the xubuntu desktop | |
| <maxamillion> MUTU: ohhh ok | |
| <maxamillion> MUTU: there are several ways of doing that ... just a moment, let me get you a link | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> :) | |
| <maxamillion> MUTU-xubuntu: i assume this will be on a LAN? | |
| <maxamillion> it's not a secure connection so i only recommend its use on firewalled LAN | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> yes it's on a LAN | |
| <maxamillion> ok, just a min. | |
| <maxamillion> hrmm... only link i found has to do with ubuntu and uses gnome specific apps ... | |
| <maxamillion> lemme try to figure something out for you | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> maxamillion, thanks :) | |
| *** MUTU is now known as MUTU-linux | |
| *** MUTU-linux is now known as MUTU-windows | |
| <maxamillion> sudo aptitude install vncserver | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> :) i will try that as soon as i finish the updates i'm doing, thanks :) | |
| <hyper_ch> hiho - how can I use a scanner on linux? | |
| <maxamillion> then go to http://www.realvnc.com/ on the windows machine and download the free version and run it, provide it with correct info and you _should_ be able to access the xubuntu machine via the windows box, but i have no experience in this so i can't gaurantee anything | |
| <hyper_ch> MUTU-xubuntu: you dared using now linux? | |
| <maxamillion> hyper_ch: define scanner? | |
| <hyper_ch> maxamillion: canon usb - flatbed scanner | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> hyper_ch: yep, xubuntu seems to be working fine :) | |
| <hyper_ch> MUTU-xubuntu: not seems but does :) | |
| <maxamillion> hyper_ch: oooh, yeah ... no clue | |
| <maxamillion> hyper_ch: you might wanna search the wiki or the forums .... wiki.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> is there a keyboard shortcut for switching workspaces? | |
| <hyper_ch> MUTU-xubuntu: I think there is :) | |
| <hyper_ch> !scanner | |
| <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners | |
| <hyper_ch> on dapper my scanner works out of the box | |
| <hyper_ch> now I have to find out how to aquire something from the scanner :) | |
| <maxamillion> Xsane is actually _really_ good | |
| <maxamillion> hyper_ch: in dapper did the scanner work out of box on either ubuntu or a xubuntu install that started as ubuntu? because ubuntu does include a substantial amount of applications that xubuntu does not | |
| <hyper_ch> maxamillion: yeah, works also here out of the box | |
| <hyper_ch> well, needed to get xsane first :) | |
| <hyper_ch> maxamillion: where do I change the device in xsane? | |
| <maxamillion> hyper_ch: no clue ... never used it, just read that its the greatest | |
| <hyper_ch> maxamillion: *smile* | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> Hi, I was doing some updates and one failed. How can I do it manually please? | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> W: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnome-media/libgnome-media0_2.16.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer) [IP: 195.248.90.38 80] | |
| <maxamillion> MUTU-xubuntu: just sounds like the connection was lost, re-run the command | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> how do i do it manually though? | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> i used the graphic interface (add/remove) | |
| <hyper_ch> change the "gb" to "ch" or "de" or "us" | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> i didn't specifically request this, it got installed cos of something else | |
| <hyper_ch> maybe that mirror just has a problem right now | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> how do i do it manually though please? is there some command? | |
| <hyper_ch> wget http://......... | |
| <hyper_ch> but that only downloads it | |
| <hyper_ch> and then once downloaded you can install it | |
| <hyper_ch> or you change the repo mirror from gb to something else | |
| <MUTU-xubuntu> i'll try | |
| <maxamillion> ok, i need sleep | |
| <maxamillion> night all | |
| <Laibsch> I have LANG="de_DE.UTF-8" and LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 in /etc/environment. MESSAGES are still being displayed in German by default. Where do I turn this off? | |
| <wasp_ems> hello guys..for some reason my cpu goes very easily to 100% and my ram shows 38% used by programs and 61% by cache..any ideas why this might be happening? | |
| <bwalle> hello, just a simple question: where can I get the sources of a package including the xubuntu-specific patches? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> bwalle: apt-get source packagename | |
| <bwalle> PuMpErNiCkEl: I have no Xubuntu installed | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Do you have any ubuntu variant installed? | |
| <bwalle> no | |
| <bwalle> I just read that you have a patch for xfce4-session to enable a "hibernate" button | |
| <bwalle> and I wanted to get that patch :) | |
| <bwalle> I have access to a Debian box if I need some tools of Debian | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> You'll need to get the source tar.gz and diff.gz from archive.ubuntu.com. | |
| <bwalle> can you help me a bit with the directory structure | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> sure | |
| <bwalle> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/, right? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Is the patch in Dapper? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Edgy is the latest stable. | |
| <bwalle> it's for xfce 4.4 | |
| <bwalle> is 4.4 already in stable edgy? | |
| <bwalle> because 4.4 isn't released | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> I think they have RC2. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> beta 2 | |
| <bwalle> so, ok http://archive.xubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/ | |
| <bwalle> but where? | |
| <bwalle> main/source is nothing | |
| <bwalle> binary seems to be wrong | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/ | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> That's where you want to start. | |
| <bwalle> thx | |
| <bwalle> did you try to push it upstream? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> They do that for most patches, so it wouldn't surprise me. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> (I'm not sure if they did that here, though.) | |
| <bwalle> the patches are GPL, right? | |
| <MUTU-windows> what kind of crappy memory management does xubuntu have? >:( | |
| <MUTU-windows> i've been waiting for almost half an hour to switch to the firefox window to be able to close it and free some memory | |
| <bwalle> MUTU-windows: I think the standard Linux one ;) | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> bwalle: Most likely. Xfce is dual-licensed GPL/LGPL. | |
| <MUTU-windows> but it's not allowing me to free memory | |
| <bwalle> althought I'm from SUSE and don't know much about xubuntu | |
| <Grey_Loki> So of all the default XFCE WM themes, which is the 'fastest'? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Themes don't affect performance that much. | |
| <Grey_Loki> With this system, every little helps :P | |
| <bwalle> Grey_Loki: all xfwm4 themes are built from pixmaps | |
| <bwalle> so, it doesn't matter which pixmaps ... | |
| <Grey_Loki> I'm mainly trying to get applications to load faster - Opera takes an absolute age to load | |
| <Grey_Loki> Though I believe that several people have said it's a bit of a memory-hog | |
| <bwalle> Grey_Loki: maybe switch to something like IceWM which requires less memory then Xfce | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> It also uses QT, which is non-standard on Xubuntu. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> It's actually one of the more efficient fully-featured browsers. | |
| <Grey_Loki> bwalle, how hard would it be to switch WMs? | |
| <Grey_Loki> As in, what's the chance that I could brick X totally | |
| <Grey_Loki> ? | |
| <bwalle> isn't there a possiblity to choose the WM in the login manager? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> There is, if it's installed. | |
| <bwalle> so apt-get install icewm should help, for example | |
| <ephemeros> hey | |
| <MUTU-windows> hi, how do i enable the vnc server on my xubuntu please? I did "sudo aptitude install vncserver" and it installed, but i can't connect to it. | |
| <hyper_ch> MUTU-windows: no clue, I use krfb | |
| <grothesk> Hi there! | |
| <grothesk> Is there a GUI in xubuntu for modem dialup connections? | |
| <mutu310> How do I change my keyboard input language please? | |
| <BaaBeast> mutu310: there is a panel plugin for that | |
| <BaaBeast> mutu310: right-click on the panel, choose 'add item', and select the keyboard layout plugin | |
| <mutu310> but it only allows GB | |
| <mutu310> i want to switch it permanently to US | |
| <BaaBeast> !keyboard | |
| <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts | |
| <BaaBeast> mutu310: in system->language settings change your language to US | |
| <BaaBeast> or was it xorg.conf to edit? | |
| <BaaBeast> :/ | |
| <mutu310> ah it is downloading something first | |
| <BaaBeast> mutu310: I lied to you, better follow the instructions on that link :( | |
| <mutu310> lol ok | |
| <mutu310> 10q | |
| <mutu310> i'm surprised how there isn't a straightforward way | |
| <Gloubiboulga> there is now :) | |
| <mutu310> how Gloubiboulga? | |
| <Gloubiboulga> you need to install XfKC, but you'll also have to tweak your xfce4-sessionrc file | |
| <Gloubiboulga> http://gauvain.tuxfamily.org/code/xfkc.html | |
| <Gloubiboulga> everything is explained on this page | |
| <Gloubiboulga> </advertising> ;) | |
| <BaaBeast> Gloubiboulga: that link is broken :/ | |
| <BaaBeast> ah, it works now | |
| <mutu310> works for me | |
| <Gloubiboulga> ? | |
| <BaaBeast> sorry | |
| <Gloubiboulga> it works for me | |
| <BaaBeast> must be something with my network | |
| <Gloubiboulga> ok | |
| <mutu310> but it's kinda useless cos you still got to edit text files | |
| <Gloubiboulga> I know | |
| <Gloubiboulga> I try to find a clean way to include in Xubuntu, but I don't know how it'll happen yet | |
| <mutu310> i don't have permission to write to xorg.conf. what do i do? | |
| <ellioTb> mutu | |
| <ellioTb> you need to use sudo when you edit it | |
| <mutu310> yes? | |
| <ellioTb> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf | |
| <ellioTb> or sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf | |
| <mutu310> thanks | |
| <ellioTb> there is a gnome applet for keyboard layout switching, but nothing so handy for xfce | |
| <ellioTb> mutu310, did you find the layout stuff in xorg.cong? | |
| <ellioTb> err conf | |
| <mutu310> yes i fixed it thanks | |
| <ellioTb> good | |
| <loco_gr[away]> ellioTb: I think that there is an applet for keyboard layout in XFCE too | |
| <mutu310> i have one last question | |
| <ellioTb> loco_gr[away], really? | |
| <ellioTb> mutu310, shoot | |
| <mutu310> i installed azureus, a torrent client | |
| <mutu310> i uploaded some torrents i made to my server | |
| <loco_gr[away]> sudo apt-get install xfce4-xkb-plugin | |
| <mutu310> when i clicked on them in firefox i got like the source, strange characters | |
| <loco_gr[away]> ellioTb: sudo apt-get install xfce4-xkb-plugin | |
| <mutu310> so i did save link as and saved them to my desktop | |
| <ellioTb> moce | |
| <mutu310> when i double clicked on them, azureus opened and said that they are not a valid file, and then closed | |
| <ellioTb> weird | |
| <mutu310> since then, azureus closes when it's opened | |
| <ellioTb> did you try just opening them from within azureus | |
| <ellioTb> try uTorrent | |
| <ellioTb> i use azureus on my xp box | |
| <ellioTb> but i heard uTorrent is good for linux | |
| <mutu310> i need azureus though | |
| <ellioTb> oh hrmm | |
| <mutu310> because i want an http interface | |
| <mutu310> and i heard that azureus has a plugin for that | |
| <ellioTb> yeah, i use that too | |
| <mutu310> what i think happened is that azureus saved this corrupt torrent file somewhere | |
| <mutu310> and when it's opening it's trying to load it and then notices it's wrong and closes the app | |
| <ellioTb> in the console, do "sudo updatedb" | |
| <ellioTb> then "slocate .torrent" | |
| <ellioTb> see if it finds it | |
| <mutu310> ok | |
| <mutu310> in windows it's C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\Azureus\torrents | |
| <mutu310> didn't work | |
| <mutu310> only showed me my torrents | |
| <mutu310> which i now deleted | |
| <ellioTb> hrmm, weird | |
| <mutu310> and still azureus is broken | |
| <mutu310> can i reinstall it easily? | |
| <ellioTb> utorrent has a web interface | |
| <mutu310> without loading that interface that takes 30 mins? :) | |
| <mutu310> ellioTb: oh, really? :) | |
| <ellioTb> i dunno, i haven't installed azureus on here | |
| <ellioTb> mutu310, yeah, and it doesnt use java i don't think! | |
| <ellioTb> i am about to install it to check it out | |
| <ellioTb> http://splintax.blogspot.com/2006/02/torrents-webui-monitor-your-downloads.html | |
| <ellioTb> there are some screens | |
| <mutu310> cheers | |
| <ellioTb> looks like there are a few diff ones actually | |
| <mutu310> is utorrent for linux though? seems like there's only windows | |
| <mutu310> ah you need to wine it. not gonna do that :) | |
| <ellioTb> mutu310, oh really? yuck | |
| <ellioTb> bittornado | |
| <grazie> Can I interchange UUID and /dev/hdxx in /etc/fstab? | |
| <crimsun_> yes. | |
| <martin18> xubuntu suck! WINDOWS LIVE! | |
| <ellioTb> mutu310, check out http://deluge-torrent.org/ | |
| <ellioTb> martin18, lol | |
| <ellioTb> it suck? | |
| <crimsun_> yeah dude, it sucks. bad. | |
| <ellioTb> good engrish | |
| <crimsun_> windows just sucks worse. | |
| <ellioTb> crimsun_, rofl | |
| <ellioTb> martin18, why does it suck? | |
| <crimsun_> you'd think these damned trolls could find something more productive. | |
| <grazie> crimsun_: Thanks. Not come across it before in /etc/fstab. What's the benefit? | |
| <crimsun_> and sheesh, at least use proper grammar when trolling. Idiot. | |
| <martin18> because is a shit | |
| <crimsun_> go away. | |
| <crimsun_> grazie: it resolves an entire class of problems, namely laptop docks w/ HDs | |
| <crimsun_> grazie: say your laptop dock has a HD. Booting with your laptop docked results in a different enumeration. | |
| <crimsun_> grazie: suddenly your /dev/hda is now /dev/hdc | |
| <grazie> crimsun_: I see... I'll read up on it, but never owned a laptop myself. | |
| <martin18> linux is a shit | |
| <martin18> SHIT | |
| <martin18> IM A TROLL | |
| <grazie> bbl. sorting out a bit of mess on trying sabayon | |
| <crimsun_> I really need stab-in-the-face over TCP/IP | |
| <ellioTb> lol, that guy had great english | |
| <martin18> linux mierda | |
| <ellioTb> welcome back | |
| <martin18> linux mierda puta mierda | |
| <martin18> PUTA MIERDA | |
| <martin18> LINUX | |
| <martin18> PUTA MIERDA, PUTA MIERDA | |
| <crimsun_> can't you find something more productive? | |
| <ellioTb> this is an english channel jota | |
| <martin18> LINUX IS A SHIT | |
| <martin18> SHIT | |
| <ellioTb> a shit? | |
| <crimsun_> right. | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o crimsun_ | |
| *** crimsun_ sets mode: +b %*!*@200.127.56.121 | |
| <ellioTb> lol | |
| *** crimsun_ sets mode: -o crimsun_ | |
| <ellioTb> argentinian guy | |
| <crimsun_> apologies for the outburst above. | |
| <ellioTb> lol, too bad jknife wasnt here | |
| <ellioTb> i saved his ip to give jknife a 'project' | |
| <mutu310> awww he offended your OS? :P | |
| <ellioTb> nah, lol | |
| <mutu310> guys it's an OS, doesn't need to be taken so personal hehe | |
| <BaaBeast> mutu310: it's a religion ;) | |
| <mutu310> oh come on :) | |
| <ellioTb> and this is a family channel, can't come in here cussin in 8 diff languages | |
| <BaaBeast> ellioTb: only 2 | |
| <ellioTb> BaaBeast, details | |
| <crimsun_> mutu310: I couldn't care if he had cursed everything under the sky. It's completely off-topic. | |
| <crimsun_> Use an #-offtopic channel to talk crap about whatever. This is a support channel. | |
| <BaaBeast> uh-oh | |
| <ellioTb> support with azureus right? | |
| <BaaBeast> sorry | |
| <crimsun_> incontinence, not azureus. | |
| <crimsun_> :-) | |
| <mutu310> guys, i have a weird question... i'm new to the linux filesystem. where best would i save torrent downloads? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> ~/ | |
| <ellioTb> /home/youruser/torrents | |
| <mutu310> thanks | |
| <ellioTb> or for you /home/mutu/pr0n | |
| <pleia2> hehe | |
| <mutu310> :) | |
| <mutu310> i won't be downloading porn on my mum's machine, don't worry | |
| <ellioTb> lol | |
| <ellioTb> woohoo! mutu windows! | |
| <ellioTb> woohoo another mutu! | |
| <MUTU-> yes my network cable is broken :S | |
| <MUTU-> if you see another MUTU coming in, it means i'm swearing :) | |
| *** loco_gr[away] is now known as loco_gr | |
| <loco_gr> Is it possible in Thunar when I press right click on a music folder to have the option 'enqueue to xmms' ? | |
| <loco_gr> I know that there is a script for gnome but i don't know how to make it work on Xfce | |
| <Grey_Loki> Meh. I'm trying to set up Samba. I've followed this tutorial: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/samba.htm , but when I run 'smbclient -L //craigslaptop -U samba', I get the return 'session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE' | |
| <Grey_Loki> What's happening? :S | |
| <adam0509> Grey_Loki, => you use command line system, right ? | |
| <Grey_Loki> adam0509, yeah | |
| <adam0509> loco_gr, => I agree, Thunar miss a thing like "Folder option" in windows | |
| <loco_gr> :( | |
| <adam0509> Grey_Loki, => I suggest you a deb called "LinNeighborhood" | |
| <Grey_Loki> ...? | |
| <adam0509> Grey_Loki, it's a graphical interface for sameb, smbmount smbclient etc... | |
| *** BaaBeast is now known as TheSheep | |
| <Grey_Loki> Aha | |
| <Grey_Loki> I thought that was called 'PyNeighborhood'? | |
| <adam0509> Pyneighborhood is not the same | |
| <adam0509> Pyneighborhood use GTK | |
| <adam0509> Personally I prefere LinNeighborhood | |
| <Grey_Loki> Meh - apt-get can't find it :( | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> !info linneighborhood | |
| <ubotu> linneighborhood: An SMB network browser for Linux and X11.. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.5-4 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 656 kB | |
| <adam0509> :) | |
| <Grey_Loki> Aha | |
| <adam0509> got universe/multiverse ? | |
| <Grey_Loki> Best set the repos up then | |
| <Grey_Loki> Yeah, I did, but I turned them off because I wasn't using them | |
| <Grey_Loki> xD | |
| <adam0509> ... | |
| <adam0509> gg | |
| <adam0509> Grey_Loki, In Xubuntu Edgy, I heard they're is a thing in thunar to mount | |
| <Grey_Loki> Eh? | |
| <Grey_Loki> Thunar is the file manager, yes... | |
| <adam0509> I heard you can "connect to server" via thunar | |
| <adam0509> but i'm not sure | |
| <adam0509> If you don't find it use linneighborhood | |
| <Grey_Loki> I can't see it, but that doesn't mean it's not there, lol | |
| <Grey_Loki> Guh. I think i'll just set up a SSH server on my linux box, and use Putty to access it from Windows :( | |
| <Grey_Loki> Thanks anyways :0 | |
| <Grey_Loki> s/0/) | |
| <adam0509> !info putty | |
| <ubotu> putty: Telnet/SSH client for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.58-4 (edgy), package size 270 kB, installed size 672 kB | |
| <cellofellow> putty is good in Windows, I prefer just a normal terminal in Linux. | |
| <Grey_Loki> cellofellow, I use a terminal in Linux | |
| <Grey_Loki> But Windows doesn't have SSH installed to the terminal by default, so I just use Putty instaed | |
| <Grey_Loki> *instead | |
| <cellofellow> Me too. | |
| <cellofellow> Besides, Windows' terminal stinks. | |
| * Grey_Loki laughs | |
| <Grey_Loki> There's one good command in it though | |
| <Grey_Loki> 'deltree C:\Windows\' | |
| * Grey_Loki grins | |
| <cellofellow> not the commands, the terminal itself. Even the lowly xterm has more features than cmd.exe | |
| <MUTU-> Grey_Loki: don't forget the -y option ;) | |
| <Grey_Loki> -y...is that like -f in rm? | |
| <MUTU-> it's to confirm | |
| <MUTU-> i.e. it won't prompt you asking you if you're sure you wanna delete | |
| <cellofellow> oh, so it automatically chosses yes. | |
| <Grey_Loki> Heh | |
| <Grey_Loki> Sweet | |
| <Grey_Loki> Right - time to get putty set up | |
| <Grey_Loki> back in a bit :) | |
| <wasp_ems> can someone tell me what the difference betwenn dvd + and dvd- is? | |
| <TheSheep> wasp_ems: the way in which the laser alters the surface of the cd | |
| <TheSheep> wasp_ems: it's pretty technical | |
| <cellofellow> which is better? | |
| <MUTU-> wasp_ems: DVR-Rs are cheaper and more supported | |
| <TheSheep> no idea | |
| <wasp_ems> yes but does it not have different support under different hardware? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Most readers support both, now. | |
| <wasp_ems> and writers? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Same. | |
| <wasp_ems> ok thanx | |
| <MUTU-> yes, most support both. but i mean an old standalone dvd player might only read DVD-R | |
| <MUTU-> there really is no need to use DVD+R | |
| <MUTU-> unless you have some hardware that can only read DVD+R | |
| <wasp_ems> so they keep on making both for old hardware support? | |
| <MUTU-> Personally, I haven't seen DVD+Rs around lately in shops in my country (Malta) | |
| <wasp_ems> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD%2BR | |
| <wasp_ems> dvd+ are better | |
| *** loco_gr is now known as loco_gr[afk] | |
| <ronin3> wow just installed xubuntu on a 900mhz athlon with 768MB ram. saved an otherwise useless system! | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> props | |
| <pleia2> goodness, 900mhz is faster than all but 2 of my computers | |
| <cellofellow> :) 900Mhz 768MB isn't that bad. Mine's 300Mhz 319MB. | |
| *** benoit is now known as adam0509 | |
| <pleia2> right now I'm on 500mhz w/ 128MB | |
| <cellofellow> ooops, min's not 300 it's 450 | |
| <ronin3> hahahhaa | |
| <adam0509> pleia2, => what disto U use ? | |
| <pleia2> adam0509: on this machine? xubuntu | |
| <adam0509> =) | |
| <ronin3> so - I have a much faster laptop that I use for most things and want to use some vnc-like solution to remote into this system. - how do I do this with xubuntu? | |
| <pleia2> you can use vnc | |
| <pleia2> search for it in synaptic | |
| <ronin3> getting a bit more tricky.... I want to be able to boot this system without a monitor, so I need to be able to vnc in at the login screen. | |
| <cellofellow> ssh and XDMCP work too. | |
| <pleia2> ronin3: you can add vnc server to your startup | |
| <adam0509> pleia2, => Xubuntu Dapper or Edgy ? | |
| <ronin3> pleia2, how do I go about doing that? | |
| <pleia2> adam0509: unfortunately a bug in my very old wireless card is keeping me on breezy | |
| <adam0509> arf | |
| <adam0509> pleia2, when you switch between tabs in firefox, does it take long to switch ?? | |
| <pleia2> ronin3: hmmm, I'm not sure what the official ubuntu way of doing it would be... | |
| <pleia2> ronin3: I use update-rc.d, but that's because I come from Debian | |
| <ronin3> pleia2, who might know? | |
| <pleia2> adam0509: not unless I'm loading up flash in those windows | |
| <pleia2> ronin3: hopefully someone in here will pipe up :) | |
| <cellofellow> xdmcp is so easy. no extra servers, just enable it in GDM with gdmsetup. | |
| <adam0509> It takes me about 1-2 second for a normal page (my machine is a P3 533Mhz/192Mo/Geforce 1) | |
| <adam0509> that's so strange... :/ | |
| <pleia2> adam0509: eep, that's not good - what version of firefox? do you have a lot of extensions? | |
| <cellofellow> try swiftfox <g> | |
| <adam0509> Just adblock+ | |
| <adam0509> 1.5 (I'm on dapper) | |
| <pleia2> adam0509: it's immediate for me, no lag at all, and my computer is not as good | |
| <adam0509> when you type "free", what can you see ? | |
| <pleia2> I see that I'm always swapping a lot when firefox is running ;) | |
| <ronin3> cellofellow, need to vnc in from winblows | |
| <cellofellow> ronin3: you can use Xming on windows to connect to a XDMCP server (a display manager) I do it all the time. | |
| <cellofellow> It's faster than VNC. | |
| <ronin3> cellofellow, that looks cool - gonna give it a shot | |
| <hyper_ch> Anyone knows why sometimes MP3s stop playing in the middle of the song? | |
| <crimsun_> you keep pressing pause/stop ? | |
| <ronin3> cellofellow, so under the remote tab, I select "same as local"? | |
| <cellofellow> use plain, it's a bit faster. | |
| <ronin3> what is plain with a face browser vs. plain? | |
| <cellofellow> face browser shows a list of users | |
| <ronin3> ah | |
| <hyper_ch> crimsun_: nope... sometimes it just stops itself :( | |
| <ronin3> cellofellow, ok how do I connect to the remote xserver with xming | |
| <monkey_> cellofellow, still there? | |
| <Grey_Loki> Is there an application like TightVNC that you can install via apt-get or the synaptic package manager? | |
| *** cga is now known as cga`afk | |
| <hydrogen> okay | |
| <hydrogen> xubuntu froze up during the install | |
| <hydrogen> at configuring locales | |
| <hydrogen> so I did a hard reboot | |
| <hydrogen> is there any way to pick up where it left off? | |
| <TheSheep> no | |
| <TheSheep> but there was a way to 'unfreeze' it | |
| <hydrogen> how? | |
| <TheSheep> hydrogen: switch to text console with alt+f2, list all the porcesses running with ps x and then kill the one that's frozen -- I think it's some japanese input method generation script | |
| <slow-motion> hallo | |
| <silvertip257> hello | |
| <silvertip257> hi I'm trying to get a 3Dfx graphics card to work w/ Xubuntu, I've found this link to some drivers, but do not know what I'm to do with the contents of the file I downloaded | |
| <silvertip257> from here: http://www.falconfly.de/voodoo2.htm | |
| <silvertip257> it's a Voodoo2 card by 3Dfx | |
| <somerville32> One sec. | |
| <silvertip257> k | |
| <somerville32> Did you download the rpm? | |
| <silvertip257> ys | |
| <somerville32> You'll need to convert the rpm to a deb | |
| <somerville32> However, you might it already in the Ubuntu repository. Have you searched? | |
| <maxamillion> !alien | |
| <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous) | |
| <silvertip257> umm no i havent somerville32 | |
| <silvertip257> can i go check via firefox ? | |
| <somerville32> Yup | |
| <silvertip257> or do i need to use synaptic to search? | |
| <somerville32> packages.ubuntu.com | |
| <silvertip257> ok ty | |
| <somerville32> You could do either | |
| <silvertip257> good | |
| <silvertip257> this comp is faster | |
| *** Gloubiboulga is now known as gpocentek | |
| <Commander-Crowe> hey all | |
| <Grey_Loki> Hmmm | |
| <Grey_Loki> UO connects to the main server, but can't connect to the freeshard i've selected | |
| <Grey_Loki> How irritating | |
| * Grey_Loki ponders | |
| <Grey_Loki> Does Xubuntu have some sort of firewall that could stop me sending login data? | |
| <silvertip257> somerville32, there is a lib for the card on the ubuntu repos | |
| <maxamillion> Grey_Loki: not by default (iirc) | |
| <Grey_Loki> Hrm | |
| <Grey_Loki> What else could stop me sending UO login data? | |
| <Grey_Loki> I'm using Wine | |
| <maxamillion> UO? | |
| <crimsun_> ultima online iirc | |
| <maxamillion> ah ... never heard of it | |
| <crimsun_> you younguns... | |
| <Grey_Loki> Heh | |
| <Grey_Loki> I'm a young 'un | |
| <Grey_Loki> Bt UO is addictive | |
| <Grey_Loki> Far, far, faaaaar too addictive | |
| <somerville32> :] | |
| <Commander-Crowe> doesn't UO run nativly on linux? | |
| <somerville32> Only 2d, I think | |
| * maxamillion googles OU | |
| <Grey_Loki> Commander-Crowe, eh? | |
| <Grey_Loki> What made you say that? | |
| <Grey_Loki> AFAIK, it's Win32 only | |
| <Grey_Loki> 2D or 3D | |
| <silvertip257> somerville32, the private window plz | |
| <Grey_Loki> There were plans for a 2D Linux client | |
| <Grey_Loki> But they got scrapped for some reason :( | |
| <Grey_Loki> So now i'm stuck trying to get wine to work with UO | |
| <Commander-Crowe> what version of wine is it? | |
| <Grey_Loki> It boots fine, and can connect to the server (it seems), but I can't get the damn thing to go | |
| <Grey_Loki> 0.9.22 | |
| <maxamillion> Grey_Loki: you install that from the official repositories or the winehq listed ones? | |
| <Grey_Loki> Hum | |
| <Commander-Crowe> yeah I would recomend you moving up to 9.27 | |
| <Grey_Loki> I just used sudo apt-get install wine | |
| <Commander-Crowe> 0.9.27 | |
| <Commander-Crowe> oh | |
| <Commander-Crowe> hrm | |
| <maxamillion> Grey_Loki: lemme get you a link for the new one | |
| <Grey_Loki> sudo apt-get upgrade says that wine is up to date | |
| <Grey_Loki> maxamillion, how would I go about upgrading? | |
| <Grey_Loki> Commander-Crowe, where did you see something about UO running natively on Linux? | |
| <maxamillion> Grey_Loki: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb follow their guide to add the repository and do "sudo aptitude update" && "sudo aptitude upgrade" (apt-get works too, just use which ever you prefer) | |
| <Commander-Crowe> Grey_Loki wiki | |
| <Commander-Crowe> someone needs to donate $10.000 to WINE | |
| <Commander-Crowe> then stuff will work nicly | |
| <Commander-Crowe> nicely | |
| <Grey_Loki> Heh | |
| <bigfuzzyjesus> hola | |
| <Commander-Crowe> http://sourceforge.net/projects/darwiin-remote | |
| <bigfuzzyjesus> cellofel1ow, you changed your nick | |
| <bigfuzzyjesus> Commander-Crowe, what be that | |
| <maxamillion> Commander-Crowe: lol, i heard about that ... just never knew what software ran it | |
| <Grey_Loki> maxamillion, upgrading wine didn't work - still the same problem | |
| <maxamillion> Grey_Loki: not sure then, i just generally recommend using the latest wine, but its never full proof ... wine is still under heavy development | |
| <ronin3> cellofel1ow, I got that remote working! It's great! | |
| <ronin3> cellofel1ow, ty! | |
| <Grey_Loki> Heh | |
| <Grey_Loki> Ah well | |
| <Grey_Loki> Guess i'll just carry on tinkering | |
| <Grey_Loki> Maybe i'll stumble and fix it by accident xD | |
| <mats> maybe | |
| <Commander-Crowe> hey, it happens to me all the time | |
| <Commander-Crowe> is there anyone in here on the wine developing team? | |
| <mats> Google helps me with all my problems.. | |
| <Commander-Crowe> oops | |
| <Commander-Crowe> wrong channel | |
| <mats> that is, not with my windows computer | |
| <sonicGB_> hi, is there anyone here who might be able to help with getting dapper and edgy live/install CDs (xubuntu) to a guy in florida fairly quickly? (I'd do it myself, but I'm in sydney, Australia... sure someone else can do it quicker than I)? | |
| <mats> sonicGB_: just make him download it from xubuntus homepage? | |
| <sonicGB_> msts, he's got no way to burn a disk | |
| <maxamillion> bbl.... need food | |
| <mats> heh, ok | |
| <sonicGB_> yeah... when one of the guys started muttering things about boot proms I thought it might be time to rustle up a copy of the cd for him <grin> | |
| <slow-motion> n8 | |
| <Grey_Loki> mats, if you can find an answer to this on google, you're a better googler than I :P | |
| <Grey_Loki> I've tried everything I can think of | |
| <Commander-Crowe> slow day | |
| <sonicGB_> did someone say google challenge? what's the challenge? | |
| <mats> Grey_Loki: answer to what? :p i joined after your question | |
| <mats> )-: | |
| * Grey_Loki laughs | |
| <Grey_Loki> I'm trying to get UO to connect to a freeshard through Wine, using UOLaunch as a launcher. | |
| <mats> UO? | |
| <Grey_Loki> But whilst it seems to connect to the shard, it doesn't seem to pass my login details on | |
| <Grey_Loki> Ultima Online. | |
| <Kacik> hey | |
| <Kacik> somebodey help me.. when i try to install edgy... on the boot screen i choose: "start or install xubuntu" ok? | |
| <somerville32> k | |
| <Grey_Loki> Yeah | |
| <Kacik> yep | |
| <Kacik> but when i do it.. he go just to live boot.. and i cant install | |
| <mats> Grey_Loki: isnt there any Ultima Online-versions for linux? | |
| <somerville32> There should be an icon on the desktop that says "Install Xubuntu" | |
| <Grey_Loki> Kacik, you click the 'install' link on your desktop | |
| <Grey_Loki> mats, nope. | |
| <mats> Kacik: there is a think on the desktop.. it stands | |
| <Grey_Loki> There was a project started, but it seems to have been discontinued | |
| <mats> install | |
| <Kacik> ok ol | |
| <Kacik> but on my distro dont appear nothing no desktop | |
| *** ChaKy_ is now known as ChaKy | |
| <Grey_Loki> Kacik, I think there's something in the Applications menu, too. | |
| <Kacik> ok. | |
| <somerville32> bigfuzzyjesus, heh | |
| <Kacik> but have some other way to do it.. without use the linux partition? | |
| <Grey_Loki> How do you mean? | |
| <bigfuzzyjesus> somerville32, Seveas kicked me from #ubuntu too | |
| <somerville32> And banned | |
| <Kacik> Grey_Loki i have 2 partitions.. 1 with win.. other with ubuntu + xfce... and i want to keep the ubuntu partition | |
| <mats> Grey_Loki: http://www.linuxgames.com/?dataloc=uofaq | |
| <mats> Grey_Loki: it this to any help? i dont know.. im not a gamer | |
| <Grey_Loki> mats, you've actually directed me to what i've just done | |
| <Grey_Loki> :P | |
| <bigfuzzyjesus> wow i am banned from #ubuntu-ops too | |
| <Kacik> Grey_Loki, do you know how to do the instalation on xfce?! | |
| <mats> Grey_Loki: (-: | |
| <bigfuzzyjesus> somerville32, how come i am banned from #ubuntu-ops | |
| <Grey_Loki> Kacik, yeah, there's an 'install xubuntu' option somewhere' | |
| <mats> bigfuzzyjesus: why? | |
| <somerville32> bigfuzzyjesus, This isn't the place to discuss it. Please pm me | |
| <Kacik> Grey_Loki i will try here.. thanks | |
| <Kacik> :D | |
| <mats> bigfuzzyjesus: and its not cool to get banned from places | |
| <bigfuzzyjesus> mats, i know i made a comment in ubuntu off topic, got banned, then got banned from #ubuntu, then #ubuntu-ops | |
| <Grey_Loki> Kacik, a quick google turned up http://www.ubufied.com/2006/11/05/xubuntu-610-installation-with-screenshots/ | |
| <mats> bigfuzzyjesus: it had to be an hardcore comment? | |
| <bigfuzzyjesus> mats, not as bad as you would thinl | |
| <mats> nothing about saveas` mother? :p | |
| <bigfuzzyjesus> im suprised that havent banned me here yet | |
| <maxamillion> why? what'd you do that would be worth banning? | |
| <maxamillion> bigfuzzyjesus: ? | |
| <somerville32> bigfuzzyjesus, You won't be banned here but please stop discussing this here. | |
| <maxamillion> what'd i miss? | |
| <somerville32> bigfuzzyjesus, Can you see my pm? | |
| <mats> maxamillion: just that Seveas kick-banned him from #ubuntu | |
| <bigfuzzyjesus> somerville32, no | |
| <somerville32> bigfuzzyjesus, Please send me a pm | |
| <bigfuzzyjesus> and ubuntu-offtopic | |
| <Seveas> mats, bigfuzzyjesus said he wised I got aids | |
| <Seveas> that got him in trouble and now he cries like a baby... | |
| <maxamillion> oh | |
| <bigfuzzyjesus> i dont cry like a baby, i just dont think that justifies a kick-ban in 3 channels | |
| <somerville32> !inappropriate | |
| <ubotu> The current discussion topic is inappropriate for this channel. Please stop. | |
| <mats> Seveas: Ah, then i understand. Wising someone a hardfull death is not nice | |
| <maxamillion> bigfuzzyjesus: please follow rules of chans and ops | |
| <bigfuzzyjesus> Seveas, so how long am i banned from those channels | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Seveas | |
| *** Seveas sets mode: +b *!*@12.206.21.84 | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: -o Seveas | |
| * Grey_Loki grins | |
| * somerville32 sighs sadly. | |
| <Grey_Loki> So is that like...covert ops, then? | |
| <mats> :p | |
| <ompaul> Grey_Loki, it is not freenode policy to sit there with "ops" lit up | |
| <mats> hehe - more like kgb :p | |
| <Seveas> somerville32, welcome to the wonderful world of IRC ops and prepare for more like this :) In a year time I've had e-mail bombers, phone stalkers, relentless trolls and whatnot. | |
| * somerville32 smiles softly. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Phone stalkers? How would that work? | |
| <mats> phone stalkers too? god thing you have a cloak :p | |
| <mats> so you dont get cracked ... thats worse | |
| <Seveas> mats, cloak is useless, my hostname is rather well known | |
| <Seveas> and phone number takes a 10 second google | |
| <Grey_Loki> www.wpdev.org - does that link work for anyone? | |
| <grothesk> Hi! | |
| <maxamillion> hello | |
| <grothesk> Is there anything similar to kppp in xubuntu? | |
| <grothesk> I need a modemdialer | |
| <mats> Seveas: well, i dont know your hostname :p | |
| <maxamillion> grothesk: not sure, i've never used kppp but i know the network utility that comes with xubuntu is fully capable of dial up connections | |
| <Seveas> google for seveas ;) | |
| <grothesk> maxamillion: Can I manage several ISP with that thingie? | |
| <mats> Seveas: i just did, 20 000-hits :p i dont need your hostname - but i know its easy to find. Surly if i really would want it | |
| <maxamillion> grothesk: you can make profiles for each isp | |
| <grothesk> maxamillion: Thx a lot. | |
| <grothesk> I just switch over to xubuntu live cd now. | |
| <Seveas> hmm, 20000 hits... | |
| <Grey_Loki> So I guess the link doesn't work then S: | |
| <mats> Seveas: if i want to help out with transulations, what do i do?can i just enter rosetta and start transulate or do i have to connact someone? | |
| <Seveas> mats, you'll need to be added to a translation team | |
| <Kacik> Grey_Loki, i couldn't... | |
| <Kacik> =~~~ | |
| <mats> Seveas: ah, thanks. ;-) Where can i go to help? :p | |
| <Seveas> your locoteam | |
| <mats> Seveas: thanks again! | |
| <ronin3> I can't get over how responsive xubuntu is on the slow computer I have... | |
| <mats> ronin3: its nice - isnt it? | |
| <JKnife> maxamillion: maxamillion maxamillion maxamillion maxamillion maxamillion maxamillion maxamillion maxamillion maxamillion maxamillion maxamillion maxamillion maxamillion maxamillion | |
| <maxamillion> JKnife: what? | |
| <maxamillion> actually ... bbl | |
| <JKnife> hi | |
| <JKnife> :( | |
| <mats> heh | |
| <JKnife> meanie op | |
| <mats> i love candy | |
| <ronin3> mats, it really is | |
| * JKnife hands mats a now and later with a pin stuck in it | |
| <mats> your mean too! | |
| <mats> (-: | |
| <JKnife> nah.. just underly nice | |
| <Kacik> i can't install xubuntu... does anybode know how to do it using the desktop cd?! | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Click on the 'install' icon on the desktop. | |
| <mats> http://www.ubufied.com/2006/11/05/xubuntu-610-installation-with-screenshots/ | |
| <mats> very easy | |
| <Kacik> thanks | |
| <Kacik> PuMpErNiCkEl when i do it ge go just to the live boot | |
| <JKnife> put the cd in.. boot up.. click install.. do what it says.. click on reboot.. installed@ | |
| <JKnife> installed!* | |
| <Kacik> JKnife.. have this option there: Start or Install xubuntu . . .. i click it and it goes the live boot directly | |
| <JKnife> boot up means get to the live cd desktop.. | |
| *** kalikiana is now known as Bonbon_aus_Wurst | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o somerville32 | |
| *** somerville32 sets mode: -b *!*@12.206.21.84 | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: -o somerville32 | |
| *** Bonbon_aus_Wurst is now known as Kenshin | |
| *** Kenshin is now known as Masaka | |
| * Grey_Loki laughs | |
| <Grey_Loki> I sent that link to kacik like...two hours ago | |
| <grothesk> re | |
| <Jester45> hi all | |
| <ellioTb> Jester45, hey | |
| <Masaka> hi | |
| *** Masaka is now known as gozaru | |
| <Farm_Fresh> Gents... think I will be coming to join the x crowd | |
| <ellioTb> Farm_Fresh, great! | |
| <gozaru> If by speaking of 'join the x crwod' you mean that you will convert from a non-unix to unix I appreaciate, that is. | |
| <Farm_Fresh> well upgrading from 6.1 beta has failed... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37647/ | |
| <gozaru> Hm... strange that is. So what did you do? Just upgrade? Or did that output come from what you were *going to* do? | |
| <Grey_Loki> Just in case anyone was interested, I managed to findda UUO linux client calle d'Iris'. | |
| <Farm_Fresh> I was in the middle of the upgrade.. I've started it again.. It picked up at file 121 or something....? | |
| <ellioTb> Farm_Fresh, not sure if they fixed the dist-upgrade problem | |
| <ellioTb> !dist-upgrade | |
| <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | |
| <ellioTb> !upgrade | |
| <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes | |
| <Farm_Fresh> Well I'd love to go to that link.. BUT, with 6.1 beta... Anytime I open a browser, my whole system freezes... Needing a hard reboot. | |
| <ellioTb> lol, uh oh | |
| <Grey_Loki> Farm_Fresh, have you tried getting a different browser, temporarily? | |
| <Farm_Fresh> Grey_Loki: yes.... epifhney or whatever that is called. | |
| <Grey_Loki> Epiphany | |
| <Grey_Loki> I think | |
| <Grey_Loki> Heh | |
| <Farm_Fresh> my pip and my knee | |
| <Farm_Fresh> duuno why I typed that... lol... | |
| <Farm_Fresh> Well the upgrade seems to be working fine so far.... down to 244 out of 451 needed. | |
| <Farm_Fresh> So over here on the X side of life... How's the eye candy? | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Not so much. | |
| <maxamillion> eye candy for what? | |
| <TheSheep> for eye XD | |
| <Farm_Fresh> beryl or compiz or anything work over here? | |
| <maxamillion> Farm_Fresh: sure does, both do seemlessly | |
| <TheSheep> Farm_Fresh: sure, just replace xfwm4 with them | |
| <grothesk> How much diskspace does a default installation of xubuntu dapper take?? | |
| <Farm_Fresh> no idea what all that means.. | |
| <TheSheep> grothesk: about 2.5GB I think | |
| <Farm_Fresh> 396 of 451... 2 min... | |
| <TheSheep> grothesk: or less | |
| <grothesk> Uh... That much... | |
| *** cellofel1ow is now known as cellofellow | |
| <grothesk> My 'victim' only has a 4 GB HDD.... | |
| <TheSheep> anybody have a fairly fresh install and can check? | |
| <maxamillion> grothesk: a full installation of dapper or edgy with extra suffs that i use will fit on 4gb with atleast a gig or so to spare for user files | |
| <cellofellow> I did | |
| <TheSheep> grothesk: I think it's at least 2GB | |
| <cellofellow> I have a fairly customized install and my disk is at 2.8GB full. | |
| <grothesk> I think I can even leave out some of the packages. | |
| <cellofellow> somerville32: ping | |
| <somerville32> pong | |
| <ellioTb> yeah, i downloaded a BUNCH of stuff since my install so i have no idea | |
| <maxamillion> hiya cellofellow | |
| <Farm_Fresh> I'm sure a lot of stuff could be removed after the install | |
| <TheSheep> grothesk: best do a server install and then only install the things you need | |
| <cellofellow> somerville32: sorry I missed the Marketing team's meeting yesterday. I had a gig. Played my cello at a wedding. | |
| <grothesk> I think 4GB will do. But I will not seperate /home then. | |
| <somerville32> cellofellow: Awesome! :) | |
| <cellofellow> I have a whole 13GB / hard disk, and a whole 40GB /home hard disk | |
| <maxamillion> Farm_Fresh: yeah, get the alternate installation cd, install just the base system and then build from there ... could probably get everything on there in about 1-1.5gb | |
| <TheSheep> cellofellow: 40GB here and I never used more than half of it -_- | |
| <cellofellow> :) | |
| <maxamillion> Farm_Fresh: heh ... even on my 160gb hdd i have only used 3.4 with everything i use and alot of extras (and that includes all my files for school work) | |
| <grothesk> What about those Cups issues with dapper? Are they resolved? | |
| <cellofellow> like HP printers? (Only thing I had trouble with.) | |
| <grothesk> Generally with CUPS. | |
| <Farm_Fresh> 25 more min.... uggg | |
| <grothesk> Damn livecds | |
| <maxamillion> !language | grothesk | |
| <maxamillion> ? | |
| <maxamillion> ubotu ?? | |
| <maxamillion> ::sigh:: | |
| <grothesk> O_o Is that already considered as rude? | |
| <cellofellow> takes me fifteen minutes to install Kubuntu on my box from LiveCD. | |
| <maxamillion> grothesk: has been since the channel existed | |
| * cellofellow wishes he could burn CD's, then he'd install even faster. | |
| <grothesk> I appologise. | |
| <Farm_Fresh> cellofellow: I'm upggrading | |
| <grothesk> How do I kill a application that hangs? | |
| <Farm_Fresh> C-4 | |
| <grothesk> Oh, sorry if 'killing' is rude as well. | |
| <gozaru> grothesk: killall NAME | |
| <cellofellow> ctrl+alt+esc and then just click on it. | |
| <cellofellow> if the gui works | |
| <grothesk> No. CTRL-ALT-ESC does nothing. | |
| <grothesk> That was the first I tried. | |
| <cellofellow> it runs xkill, at least on Edgy | |
| <Farm_Fresh> c-4 | |
| <grothesk> Applicationsmenu does not work as well. | |
| <gozaru> grothesk: 'killall firefox-bin' on a terminal kill firefox for example | |
| <cellofellow> killall commandname and if that doesn't work, killall -s KILL commandname | |
| <grothesk> I don't have a terminal. | |
| <gozaru> or use Alt+F2 if the panel is frozen | |
| <grothesk> Can't do anything. | |
| <gozaru> or use ctrl+shift+f1 | |
| <cellofellow> ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a console | |
| <Farm_Fresh> anyone think the pizza dude will bring smokes and beer | |
| <Farm_Fresh> ? | |
| <gozaru> pizza?? | |
| <cellofellow> if that doesn't work, try logging in remotely with SSH if you've installed it and then running the commands. | |
| <Jester45> or alt ctrl backspace | |
| <cellofellow> sometimes things freeze so hard my only hope is to log in with PuTTY remotely and use killall -s KILL Xorg | |
| <wasp_ems> hey does anyone know a program to make videos and take photos using your webcam? | |
| <gozaru> Often the POWER switch on the computer helps - for me it is able to safely shutdown when everythin else is frozen | |
| <cellofellow> these are all measures to avoid that gozaru | |
| <gozaru> Of course, they are. I only wanted to suggest what I'd do in order to avoid a hard shutdown if needed, that is. | |
| <gozaru> I ddin't want anyone to think that this would be the usual way to shutdown. :) | |
| <wasp_ems> anyone? | |
| <gozaru> To clarify this: I mean pressing POWER *shortly* does a SOFT shutdown for me. | |
| <cellofellow> works on some of my computers, though they are Windows not Linux. | |
| <gozaru> sry, wasp, no webcam here | |
| <gozaru> cellofellow: Did you ever try it on Xuby? For me it works even better than on windows. | |
| <cellofellow> I haven't managed to get an power management stuff working. Standby, Hibernate, soft shutdown. | |
| <gozaru> In fact, I was not happy with power managment in Xuby at all, so I don't use it anyway. | |
| <gozaru> Thus if the soft shutdown using the power button works on Windows for you, it should probably do so on Xuby. | |
| <gozaru> BUT as I said, I only recommend it in case *everything* froze anyway. | |
| <Farm_Fresh> I thought power mgmt was a big issue covered in edgy? | |
| <gozaru> In fact I did not test it in Edgy as I usually don't really need it. | |
| <gozaru> So don't quote me about anything related to power managment not to be working. | |
| <Farm_Fresh> well me either... But things like that are what make me not like ubuntu... | |
| <Farm_Fresh> always releasing stuff that dosent work. | |
| <cellofellow> I supposed if I bothered to try I could get it working, unless my bios doesn't support it at all (which I think is the case) | |
| <Farm_Fresh> Like selling a car that loses air in the tires..... Yeah, we'll get to it... :-/ | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> A lot of motherboards have broken ACPI support. | |
| <gozaru> I would not blame Ubuntu for hardware issues highliy depending on the support of specifications. I always assume that PC's are generally built for Windows, in the case of x86. | |
| <ellioTb> yeah, they can't possibly test it on every single one | |
| <ellioTb> yeah, i have to have special windows drivers for power management in xp | |
| <ellioTb> works in xubuntu | |
| <Farm_Fresh> how does ms pull off working on every single machine other than macs? | |
| <gozaru> As long as even MacOS support is worth special advertisement we will have to take what we get. :/ | |
| <Farm_Fresh> Well I'd love to know what machine Ubuntu was designed for. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> It's not designed for any single machine. | |
| <ellioTb> it works cause every single machine is made to work with windows | |
| <gozaru> I wonder what this could possibly mean: /home/kalikiana/Desktop/strigi-0.3.11/src/streams/pdf/MAGIC_INCLUDE_DIR | |
| <gozaru> MAGIC_LIBRARIES (ADVANCED) | |
| <gozaru> strigi seems to *need* these specific varables. | |
| <Farm_Fresh> no i deer | |
| <ellioTb> ljl = ubotwu? | |
| <LjL> !bot | |
| <Ubotwo> This is a temporary Ubotu replacement. Please don't play with it. | |
| <LjL> (yes) | |
| <gozaru> Why should Ubotu have to be replaced? | |
| <ellioTb> .bot | |
| <ellioTBot> Please do not play with me either. | |
| <somerville32> ellioTb: We have a policy of no unauthorized bots in our IRC chatrooms. | |
| <PuMpErNiCkEl> Ubotu is dead right now. He'll be resurrected shortly. | |
| <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com | |
| <somerville32> !test | |
| <Ubotwo> Failed. | |
| <ellioTb> hehe, its not really a bot that does stuff, cept log for me :) | |
| <ellioTb> that ok? | |
| <somerville32> ellioTb: As long as it doesn't talk | |
| <ellioTb> lol, ok, i won't make him say anything again :) | |
| <gozaru> So are you responsible for ubotu? | |
| <LjL> The person who's responsible for Ubotu is currently unavailable, and Ubotu doesn't appear to be working right now. Please feel free to use Ubotwo (without abusing it...) in the meanwhile, but keep in mind that certain functions won't work like in Ubotu | |
| <gozaru> Thank you then, LjL | |
| <gozaru> Is there a way to learn which packages are updatable, from the cli? | |
| * Farm_Fresh Upgrade successful | |
| <LjL> gozaru: well, apt-get upgrade will tell you, and if you don't like what it's going to upgrade, you can always say "no" | |
| <Farm_Fresh> so sudo apt-get install xubuntu will do the trick? | |
| <gozaru> Farm_Fresh: Don't you mean 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'? :) | |
| <Farm_Fresh> uhh... yeah... thats what I mean... | |
| * ellioTb tries to get his dell DJ to connect to his xubuntu box | |
| <gozaru> So yes, it will install what we call Xubuntu. | |
| <Farm_Fresh> so what makes xubuntu so much different from ubuntu? |
