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<MotherLUG> Afternoon All

<hysterio> good afternoon everyone

<Hit3k> heylo

<Hit3k> hmm anyone in here take physics?

<siccness> no but I take neurofen plus

<Hit3k> hahah

<Hit3k> no.

<hysterio> whats the question?

<Hit3k> can you have negative speed? i cant remember

<hysterio> only when you owe it to someone... oh wait..

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<hysterio> Hit3k, dunno

* hysterio cant remember what he did this morning, let along high school

<Hit3k> lol

<Hit3k> I'll ask the wiki

<ThePizzaKing> Hit3k: No, speed is a scalar not a Vector

<ThePizzaKing> I think that's right

<AlexC> how do you read unix time?

<Hit3k> with great difficulty

<AlexC> lol

<cps> it's the number of seconds since 1st January 1970

<AlexC> sweet

<AlexC> 1166326820 seconds since 1st January 1970

<Hit3k> is that from 0000 on the 1st of january 1970 or 0000 on the 2nd of january 1970

<cps> midnight on the morning of the 1st

<cps> but then there is the nasty year 2038 problem

<AlexC> why?

<AlexC> what is the problem

<cps> that is when the number of seconds will overflow a 32bit integer

<AlexC> and why is it counting from that moment?

<cps> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

<AlexC> ty

<cps> you have to start somewhere

<ThePizzaKing> eh, an asteroids meant to have killed us by then

<cps> yeah either that or we will all be using 64 bit systems

<Hit3k> i thought it was global warming

<hysterio> wasnt a problem in the 70's.. but alien invasion was

<hysterio> or asteroids, as ThePizzaKing says

<Hit3k> man thats like the Y2K thing

<cps> yeah, it's actually nastier I think

<AlexC> well can't complain

<AlexC> we all have to die

<cps> then there is the year 10,000 problem

<AlexC> whats wrong with that?

<Hit3k> yeah well

<cps> it's when you go from 4 digits to 5 digits

<Hit3k> im not worried about something im not gonna be around for

<cps> I checked the gnome calender and it works

<Hit3k> what works? us going up to 10,000 digits?

<Hit3k> erm 5 digits

<Hit3k> rather

<cps> yeah

<cps> that's not to say there aren't 1000 other places that make bad assumptions

<Hit3k> oh shit

<Hit3k> what year is it?

<Hit3k> 2006?

<cps> no it's 1906 by my clock

<Hit3k> oh

<AlexC> lol

<Hit3k> well useless bit of info my birthday is on a monday in 2100 and it will be my 110th birthday

<cps> I'll remember to send you a birthday card then

<AlexC> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_10%2C000_problem

<siccness> The Year 10,000 problem is pointless

<siccness> The 2038 is interesting

<AlexC> hmmmm

<AlexC> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_event

<AlexC> OMG its quail!!!!

<AlexC> run

<hysterio> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Doomsday

<siccness> $13,000 been donated to wikipedia

<AlexC> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hiroshima_aftermath.jpg

<cps> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu

<hysterio> SABDFL, Some African Bought Debian For Loosechange <--- hahaha

<siccness> ROFL

<cps> "Unlike Unix, which is written entirely using the letter C, Ubuntu is made from the colour brown."

<rob> hehe that page is great

<siccness> They drink it in the Congo

<siccness> LOL

<siccness> That Gentoo page is classic

<siccness> Pacman became Gentoo's mascot shortly after he developed Downs Syndrome and lost his old job

<AlexC> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Python

* purserj compiles his way to kernel dvb happiness (he hopes)

<hysterio> purserj, what card are you using?

<purserj> leadtek winfast 1000t

<AlexC> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Command_Line

<adhoc_> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Sleep <- The Clown Theory !!!

<hysterio> ROFL

<hysterio> This theory is largely hinged on the hypothesis that since no one has ever seen a clown sleep, it is therefore logical to assume that clowns never sleep, and since clowns primarly feed on children, the daring new philosophical field of logicamality dictates that sleep is the fault of clowns.

<AlexC> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System#Design_principles_of_X-Windows

<cps> hey that's a half truth

<AlexC> lol

<AlexC> Unlike Windows, Mac OS X does not feature the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) but instead the Spinning Beachball of Death! (SBBOD) Apple decided that a nice colourful ball would make people feel happy when they loose all their work without having saved it.

<cafuego> Where in Linux, the system just reboots unexpectedly.

<AlexC> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X

<AlexC> Mac OS X's latest version, Mac OS X v10.5 "Leopard" was just recently announced by Apple. Steve Jobs made very clear that it can be used for timetravellin. It is rumoured, that very loud mechanichal voice was heard in 637523950033 households worldwide, as Stephen Hawkings asked for himself followinng phrase popularized by Oscar Wilde: "How the fuck they did THAT?!".

<AlexC> http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/4/45/Errors.png

<siccness> For blooming sake

<siccness> What the hell is wrong with my damned car

<noiesmo> siccness, it's a holden isn't it :)

<siccness> yes but this isnt the issue

<siccness> somethings drawing power from the battery

<siccness> but what i dontr know

<hysterio> purserj, how did you go?

<purserj> forgot one vital step

<purserj> copying the bzImage over

<hysterio> ah, that'd help :)

<adhoc_> lucychili: Microcosm Publishing is an independent publisher and distributor based in Portland, OR. We distribute ideas through zines, books, pamphlets, stickers, buttons, patches, t-shirts, films, and more, as well as manufacture custom 1" buttons and vinyl stickers. We focus on publishing zines and books in the hopes that it will add credibility to zine writers and their ethics. Our titles attempt to teach self empowerment to disenfranchised

<adhoc_> http://www.microcosmpublishing.com/

<lucychili> nice

<lucychili> might be good for barcamp

<lucychili> urg

<pschulz01> lucychili: We need to find out if there is an Australian version of these publishing houses.

<siccness> adhoc_: what can cause things to drain a battery overnight?

<siccness> obviously lights, stereo, alarm

<siccness> anything else?

<cps> those two deep friers you have in the boot'\

<siccness> Possibly but nah :P

<lucychili> i was wonderring if we could make one

<lucychili> i dont know how to run a printer but i could learn

* lucychili thinks it would be cool to be able to keep a press running sweetly

<lucychili> one of those old inky beasts

<purserj> w00t we have new kernel goodness along with dvb goodness

<purserj> now to get the thing working with Myth

<hysterio> purserj, interested in how you get on with myth cause im looking at doing something similar myself

<purserj> hysterio: I really should do up a blog entry

<hysterio> purserj, you're doing this in gentoo?

<purserj> yup

<Hit3k> wow

<Hit3k> netsplitalicious

<hysterio> cool just got myth (kinda) working

<hysterio> doesnt appear to be talking to the backend properly though :(

<purserj> gah, now mines not either

<hysterio> cool... working :)

<hysterio> mythtv obviously doesnt like xgl

<GrantG> 'lo

<cps> 'i

* GrantG sincerely hopes the Forums will crash and burn

<cps> why is that?

<GrantG> long story

<elkbuntu> GrantG, ooh, what's happened now?

<cps> ooh, I've got all night

<elkbuntu> me too

<GrantG> nothing elkbuntu, it's a long term thing with me

<GrantG> the politics and in-fighting are a blight on the project

<elkbuntu> so, completely aside from the fact that the 'leader' acts like a 10yrold?

<elkbuntu> howdy sonicGB

<GrantG> only since leaving the staff 6 months or so a go, have I been able to see the negative impact the forums have on the project in general

<sonicGB> heya elkbuntu

<GrantG> and yes, leader = 10yrold

<elkbuntu> GrantG, between his actions at UDS, and then the near repeat at the CC meeting, he's going to bring it all down, seriously

<GrantG> ah, i don't know much about those, I've sort of cut myself off lately

<elkbuntu> GrantG, tantrums, quite literally

<GrantG> I must read the CC meeting minutes

<GrantG> date?

<elkbuntu> um....

<elkbuntu> 12th maybe?

<GrantG> Ok, I'll find it :)

<purserj> oooh, EIT goodness, now all I need is a decent antena

<GrantG> but i agree, his actions and those of his close supporters do bring Ubuntu into peril

<elkbuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/CC-2006-12-12

<GrantG> thanks :)

* GrantG is halfway through the CC meeting minutes... very interesting

<pschulz01> elkbuntu: Off the current topic.. how is the NZ mentoring going?

<pschulz01> elkbuntu: ping?

<purserj> hysterio: just a quick update, using a set of rabbit ears we seem to have hit the sweet spot for SBS, coming through crisp and clear

<GrantG> bbl

<pschulz01> purserj: Wahoo!!

<hysterio> purserj: nice... i revisited mythtv here with a hauppauge (sp?) analog card - it works, all seems to be working so far (except i discovered the hard way that mythfrontend doesnt like xgl)

<hysterio> would like some DVB love though ;)

<hysterio> actually, the xml channel stuff isnt too happy, but im not too fussed about that atm

<hysterio> purserj: you're down south coast way arent you?

<MotherLUG> hysterio, yes we are

<MotherLUG> 15 mins south of wollongong

<purserj> Now/Next info is pulled out and all

<hysterio> sweet :)

<hysterio> for my next trick i think im gonna need a longer antenna mast. DVB or bust

<purserj> next thing to look at is getting all the channels and putting in a second reciever

<hysterio> you getting the same card again?

<purserj> yup, good price and easy to setup

<hysterio> what driver does it use?

<purserj> http://club.csse.monash.edu.au/~tmccoy/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=154&Itemid=26 <-- thats a good start

<elkbuntu> pschulz01, was having dinner

<elkbuntu> pschulz01, the intensive mentoring is over

<pschulz01> elkbuntu: No problem at all...

<hysterio> purserj, thanks for that

<pschulz01> elkbuntu: I have a friend.. a young 'andrew' who is going back to there.. and I would like to put him in contact with the group over there.

<elkbuntu> pschulz01, ubuntu-nz@lists.ubuntu.com and the irc channel are a good start

<pschulz01> elkbuntu: Cool.. he's off to Auckland.

<purserj> woot paused live tv!

<Changlinn> mythbox?

<MotherLUG> Changlinn, yes it is

<Changlinn> cool

<Changlinn> need to get my one running

<MotherLUG> this is great, it's running off a pair of rabbit ears, as we only have an old arial (landlord swipped the UHF before we moved in)

<Changlinn> heh last time I was setting mine up I did it that way

<Changlinn> worked fine

<Changlinn> what cpu?

<MotherLUG> and get this, the landlord also swipped the telstra touch phone and left us with an old old decatic dial phone

<MotherLUG> amd athlon 2400

<siccness> the new james bond movie sucks

<pschulz01> siccness: I liked it.

<hysterio> purserj: that link you gave is brilliant - gonna pick up one of those cards this week ;)

<purserj> yup, now all I have to do is stop it blindly recording everything

<purserj> I now have every channel bar Prime/7

<purserj> and HDTV

<GrantG> elkbuntu, just had time to finish reading those CC minutes

<GrantG> mark my words that whole FC process will fail

<GrantG> at some point Ryan will take his ball and go home

<GrantG> and destroy all that hard work

<cps> what is the FC process?

<GrantG> Forums Council

<cps> ah

<Hit3k> Do you think if windows was the open source one and linux was the closed source one we'd all be using windows?

<pschulz01> elkbuntu: Hmm.. interesting CC minutes.

<pschulz01> Hit3k: I think windows would be substantially different, and linux would not have the following that it does.

<cps> Hit3k: yeah because it would be the ethical choice, however so much of what defines windows as we know it doesn't really lend itself to the idea of free or open source software

<Hit3k> but just say in some alternate universe it was the opposite way around then it was here

<cps> but I would imagine it would be a very different system if it was open source

<Hit3k> oh man i have nothing to watch today

<cafuego> Got paint? Linoleum?

<cafuego> Wallpaper?

<cps> there is a documentary on SBS about spelling bees

<Hit3k> nah

<Hit3k> TV in the summer bugs me never anything good on

<Hit3k> I might be stuck with 28 Days

<cafuego> cute monkeys

<Hit3k> 28 Days not 28 Days Later..

<purserj> blah, I have MythTV all setup complete with HDTV and all thats on is 28 Days

<cps> that's always the way

<sonicGB_> purserj: welcome to non-ratings period! :-)

<siccness> pschulz01: You're right, the bond movie doesn't suck. But it has shitall to do with James Bond. There was barely any resemblence whatsoever.

<pschulz01> siccness: Yeah. but I thnk they've relaunched the franchise.

<siccness> All they had to do was make a Bond film that wasn't completely retarded to resuscitate the series

<siccness> Films like "Tomorrow Never Dies" and "Die Another Day" were just utterly stupid, and essentially lost the plot.

<pschulz01> There was no Q and no gadgets.

<siccness> Q with the gadgets are fine, see "Goldeneye" - weaponry and gadgets in that weren't stupid.

<pschulz01> siccness: I didn't mind them as films.. but I've never read any of the novels.

<siccness> But invisible cars in Die Another Day, to me, well that just went a little overboard.

<pschulz01> Bring back the evil guy with the cat.

<siccness> LOL

<siccness> Bring back villians that were actually villains

<siccness> Rather than a poker player.

<pschulz01> I'm a little worried about the current poker fad.

<siccness> Nevertheless, Casino Royale was one of the better Bond films that have been released in the last 10 years or so.

<pschulz01> siccness: The original Casino Royale with Niven was just silly.

<siccness> and Daniel Craig did a great job

<siccness> pschulz01: that was merely a spoof.

<pschulz01> I liked the opening sequence.

<pschulz01> :-)

<siccness> and not considered apart of the bond franchise

<siccness> Yes, the openinbg sequence was brilliant.

<siccness> That's what I wanted throughout the movie.

<siccness> while still holding a story-line.

<siccness> This was basically "WPT Poker Championship w/violence"

<pschulz01> I was hoping that they were going to continue with the 'despirate, pursue at any cost' action sequences.

<siccness> Heh

<siccness> pschulz01: Did anyone in the cinema laugh at Richard Branson's cameo?

<pschulz01> siccness: I did.

<siccness> I think my dad and I were the only two people in an entirely packed cinema that understood it

<siccness> Heh yeah

<elkbuntu> what? richard branson does a cameo? bwahaha

<pschulz01> siccness: He's in a airline checkin queue.

<siccness> pschulz01: yes i know :P

<siccness> about to go through the metal-detector gates

<pschulz01> siccness: sorry, that was for elkbuntu

<elkbuntu> pschulz01, rofl

<siccness> elkbuntu: it was actually quite funny, but it just shows that australians are essentially idiots who don't notice funny things

<siccness> and barely anyone understood the 'little finger' joke :|

<elkbuntu> :|

<pschulz01> siccness: I'm wondering if they were planning to show Branson was on the 'No Fly List'

<elkbuntu> what was the airline he was flying? :Þ

<siccness> lol

<pschulz01> I don't think is showed that....

<siccness> elkbuntu: nah it didnt show that

<elkbuntu> awww

<siccness> pschulz01: the torture scene was f'ing hilarious!

<pschulz01> siccness: My wife enjoyed it more than I did.

<siccness> lol

<siccness> pschulz01: tell you what tho, those two girls were HAWWWT :D

<purserj> anyone played with lirc?

<adhoc_> pschulz01: no, but sounds interesting

<christopherl> who's owner root, I want to install on a folder but have not permission, how do I change that?

<adhoc_> pschulz01: "You can ... configure X to use your remote control as an input device

<adhoc_> christopherl: is this in the desktop file window thingies?

<adhoc_> christopherl: or from the command line?

<christopherl> desktop

<adhoc_> you'll have to do that as user 'root'

<adhoc_> but i don't know how to do that from the desktop

<adhoc_> i tend to do all that stuff from the command line

<siccness> you can do so by loading nautilis using gksudo at the command line

<siccness> although i wouldnt

<adhoc_> cunning plan siccness

<siccness> so to do so, type this at the command-line: gksudo nautilus

<christopherl> what happens if I delete root and only run me as a user?

<siccness> well you'd be an idiot

<christopherl> why

<siccness> You won't be able to perform any tasks that require 'root'.

<christopherl> ok

<lucychili> no upgrading of packages etc

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<adhoc_> siccness: you scares the geezer off!

<Xmas_Penguin> hehe

<siccness> adhoc_: of course.

<siccness> I don't care though.

<siccness> :)

<siccness> You know life is sad when you try and pick up a girl on Whirlpool :|

<purserj> Depends on whether you succeed or fail

<siccness> lol

<siccness> im not sure whether i want to succeed :)

<adhoc_> siccness: you sure that whirlpool is a place the 'girls' visit?

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<MistaED> also do you have a link siccness? :P

<siccness> adhoc: heh, could be a guy acting as a girl :)

<siccness> MistaED: *cough* :P

<MistaED> hehe

<siccness> we purchased ourselves a new dishwasher today

<siccness> boy was I amazed at how expensive those bad boys are

<rastilin> I was wondering about something, since most of us have been using this system since back when anticipatory was the main disk scheduler. Doesn't it seem like cfq is significantly less efficient when conducting disk operations?

<elkbuntu> why the heck did we have a swede asking support of us?

<christopherl> installing Activetcl with GUI in root directory while not in terminal, how can get permission to install without using sudo?

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<merlin-linux> anyone here from perth?

<merlin-linux> Is there anyone here from Perth that want to help get a barcamp going? visit this url >>> http://barcamp.org/BarCampPerth

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