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<BluesKaj> howdy

<PFA> hi BluesKaj

<PFA> how are you BluesKaj

<PFA> how's the wife BluesKaj

<PFA> everything ok upstairs BluesKaj?

<BluesKaj> upstairs ? PFA

<PFA> now dont make a fuss BluesKaj

<PFA> just come along quietly with the nice men in the white coats, BluesKaj

<PFA> we don't want to hurt you BluesKaj

<BluesKaj> they'll get a fight from me :) i don't give up easlily

<PFA> don't make us sedate you BluesKaj

<PFA> you wouldn't like that now would you BluesKaj?

<PFA> just come quietly BluesKaj

<PFA> everything will be ok BluesKaj

<BluesKaj> ok PFA enuff bots stuff here ...i know someone is running a script

<PFA> there are no bots BluesKaj

<PFA> just quit fighting BluesKaj

<PFA> resistance is futile BluesKaj

<PFA> we don't want to have to do this BluesKaj

<PFA> just come along quietly and everything will be ok BluesKaj

<PFA> are you listening to me BluesKaj?

<PFA> you're making me very unhappy BluesKaj

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<PFA> BluesKaj... where are you :(

<nothlit> PFA, what the heck are you doing?

<PFA> being bored :(

<nothlit> why don't you go into the white padded room then? :P

<PFA> because i said i was born, not insane

<PFA> bored*

<PFA> rofl

<PFA> oh man

<PFA> i know this mormon scientologist furry drug addict

<PFA> and i recently found out that she's a white nationalist too!

<PFA> how frickin crazy is that

<BluesKaj> PFA , I don'r even know you ...who are you and WTF do you want ?

<PFA> i am just bored. don't worry :)

<PFA> ps i am not a bod

<PFA> bot*

<PFA> just a very weird human

<BluesKaj> sound like a bot to me

<PFA> nuh huh

<PFA> does a bot make typos?!

<PFA> i don't think so

<BluesKaj> I don't worry

<PFA> neither does yo momma!

<PFA> incidentally, i met up with her the night previous. i found her excellent.

<BluesKaj> heh, my momma is no longer with us

<PFA> oh. sorry D:

<BluesKaj> but my wife is , and she's a psychiatrist

<PFA> oh. your wife then :D

<BluesKaj> Mall Santa: Have red suit, will work for decent wage :>K

<PFA> hehehehehehe

<PFA> that could apply to some occupations other than mall santa

<BluesKaj> cbc page http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2006/12/15/santa-shortage.html

<Heterocephalus> "must not be intimidating to small children"

<BluesKaj> hey shortleg

<shortleg> hello =)

<La_PaRCa> Wow. My gnome-panel just crashed out of nowhere

<PFA> sdfjksdjfksjdlkfksfjkdsfjklfsdklfdsjklfsdjlkfdsjlkljksdfljkljksdfjlfdljksdjlsdfjlksdf

<BluesKaj> fglrx to you too

<dominussuus> is there anyone here proficient with the package/release update policies for ubuntu?

<tonyyarusso> dominussuus: I wouldn't say "proficient", but better than nothing, starting with:

<tonyyarusso> !upgrade

<ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes

<tonyyarusso> !backports

<ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports

<Toph> anyone active here?

<dominussuus> thanks tony - I'm miffed because gnome-pilot was released in Edgy with a super-regressive bug that either crashed or wiped my Palm whenever it tried to sync. GNOME's since patched it but MotU said that they have no intention of updating it

<tonyyarusso> Toph: Sometimes

<Toph> tonyyarusso,,, ok,, thanks, i have a question

<tonyyarusso> dominussuus: Did they say why? I tried to get something backported to Dapper, but it would have required a change to a major system library.

<somerville32> dominussuus, If the bug realistically causes user data loss then an SRU may be done.

<tonyyarusso> Toph: Shoot

<somerville32> dominussuus, Is there a bug about it in launchpad.net?

<Toph> i have 2 hard drives on my computer, one with linux which i boot from and the other with windows, I want to access the files from the windows HD (hda1) but the drive doesn't show up anywhere. How do i access it? i have tried mounting it, but have failed

<nothlit> tonyyarusso, how do you talk on so many channels at once? O.o

<tonyyarusso> nothlit: magic

<nothlit> black magic!

<dominussuus> tony: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-pilot/+bug/66355

<tonyyarusso> Toph: In what way did you fail?

<dominussuus> & somerville

<dominussuus> although the bug report doesn't say it, this bug did wipe my Palm at one point

<Toph> tonyyarusso,,, i assumed i needed to manually mount the hda, but i haven't been able to,, i'm new at this

<tonyyarusso> dominussuus: Might want to add that

<tonyyarusso> !ntfs | Toph

<ubotu> Toph: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse

<tonyyarusso> Toph: Seen that yet?

<Toph> nope,, let me check it out

<Toph> Toph,,, the '!ntfs" is a command line?

<tonyyarusso> somerville32: Should dominussuus subscribe ubuntu-backporters to that?

<tonyyarusso> dominussuus: How did you ask about getting it updated?

<dominussuus> tony: I've added the comment that you recommended

<nothlit> !ntfs-3g

<ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)

<nothlit> tonyyarusso, why does the !fuse factoid point to a less functional (from what i know) driver compared to ntfs-3g?

<tonyyarusso> nothlit: Is ntfs-3g open source and all?

<nothlit> !fat > Toph

<dominussuus> tony & somerville: I asked MotU whether they had plans to update gnome-pilot to the latest version (that fixes the bug) and they said that they didn't and if I wanted the latest version I should check the Feisty backports

<nothlit> yup

<nothlit> ntfs-3g.org 'The NTFS-3G driver is an open source, freely available NTFS driver for Linux with read and write support. It provides safe and fast handling of the Windows XP, Windows Server 2003 and Windows 2000 file systems. Most POSIX file system operations are supported, with the notable exception of file ownership and access right changes.'

<tonyyarusso> dominussuus: _feisty_ backports? Those shouldn't even exist yet

<tonyyarusso> nothlit: No idea then

<nothlit> did they mean backports from feisty?

<tonyyarusso> nothlit: Perhaps

<dominussuus> nothlit - probably

<tonyyarusso> dominussuus: If it was updated, it would be in the backports section, not regular.

<dominussuus> since the feisty list has the updated package

<tonyyarusso> dominussuus: What you should have been asking was for inclusion in backports.

<dominussuus> tony - as in the backports repository

<dominussuus> tony - ah... well I'm a little new at this :S

<dominussuus> I'm just reading the backports now...

<tonyyarusso> dominussuus: Yep. That should explain how to request one - basically consists of subscribing ubuntu-backporters to the bug it relates to, and they'll tell you if it's possible according to backporting guidelines.

<dominussuus> so do I go back to the bug and subscribe them to it?

<dominussuus> and what does "Nominate for Release" do in Launchpad, because I clicked that too

<tonyyarusso> dominussuus: I have no idea what nominate for release does. But yes, you'd subscribe them, and probably add a summary comment at the bottom saying that now that it's fixed upstream you'd like it backported to Edgy.

<dominussuus> okay... I'll do that now

<dominussuus> now, hold on a sec.... I've searched launchpad for ubuntu-backporters and it returned:

<dominussuus> ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Ubuntu Backporters ubuntu-backports-testers Ubuntu Backports Testing Team

<dominussuus> ugh... sorry

<dominussuus> ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu Backporters

<dominussuus> ubuntu-backports-testers - Ubuntu Backports Testing Team

<tonyyarusso> Just follow the wiki guide.

<dominussuus> argh.. but that requires reading!

<dominussuus> just kidding - thanks for your help

<tonyyarusso> hehe

<PFA> tonyyarusso: there you are!

<tonyyarusso> PFA: yes!

<PFA> my mom wants to know if she should pay u before or after u mail or after i get it & when/ how

<tonyyarusso> I'd say after

<PFA> after you mail or after i get it?

<tonyyarusso> Receive and try it.

<dominussuus> tonyyarusso, the new version of gnome-pilot requires an updated libc6 package - that's a problem, isn't it?

<tonyyarusso> dominussuus: Likely yes.

<PFA> ok

<tonyyarusso> And it looks like from paypal.com you just click Send Money and put in my e-mail address, if you already have an acct

<PFA> did you mail it already?

<tonyyarusso> No, not yet. I've been frantically trying to catch up on last bits of schoolwork before leaving unfortunately.

<PFA> ok

<somerville32> tonyyarusso, nope

<somerville32> You don't subscribe them until you know what you want them to do

<somerville32> And you need to get approval for the SRU

<somerville32> gotta go

<tonyyarusso> 'k

<bradley> hi all!

<bradley> is there a way to see/watch the load on my video memory? there some sort of app?

<bradley> i have htop but it doesn't seem to output the video mem

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<PFA> hi tonyyarusso :) go to bed

<tonyyarusso> PFA: Nah

<tonyyarusso> I got up at 8 pm

<PFA> well phooey on you

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<BluesKaj> howdy

<mcmahonm> morning do any of you guys know the folks that are running this ubuntu site http://ubuntuclips.org/ looks likeit might be a great resource for noobs

<malcolmb> ubuntu video tutorials?

<mcmahonm> malcolmb are you lookig for video tutorials

<malcolmb> no, i was just guessing as to what ubuntubclips.org might be

<mcmahonm> yes it looks like video clips for new folks,it is being done by some guys in BC

<malcolmb> you know the site ShowMeDo?

<malcolmb> that one is moving along well, now they have Blender tutorials as well

<malcolmb> plus they seem to be open to accepting vid tutorials by other people as well

<mcmahonm> I will have to go have a look, sounds like a great resource. I am always looking for places to send people to see how things are done, so they can feel empowered to learn on there own without always calling me

<mcmahonm> well have to go get the christmas tree

<malcolmb> hah

<malcolmb> fun stuff

<tonyyarusso> !teg

<ubotu> Come play teg with us! (Like the board game Risk) Install the 'teg' package, run 'tegclient', and connect to server yarusso.no-ip.org, port 2000. Ping tonyyarusso for more information

<tonyyarusso> :)

<tonyyarusso> BluesKaj: You know you're bored.

<tonyyarusso> woowoo: Same to you

<tonyyarusso> / mneptok

<BluesKaj> not me , i'm over at #kubuntu

<tonyyarusso> psssh

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<La_PaRCa> well, something happened and now my flashplayer went down the pooper

<somerville32> : (

<La_PaRCa> the flash video just goes too slow

<bradley> i am looking for a substitute for the window list for my panel. i want something that just displays icons without words. does anyone know of an applet like this?

<bradley> the window list for xfce used only icons and it was really nice looking and organized.

<bradley> is there some way to import the xfce panel apps into the gnome panel?

<bradley_> i am excited to try feisty but i only have my one computer that i use for school and work, does anyone know when feisty should be stable enough for general use?

<bradley_> i am interested in doing some testing though

<bradley_> !openoffice

<ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components. To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org

<somerville32> bradley, no. It is not stable enough for general use.

<tonyyarusso> bradley_: Do you have enough room for it to have a separate partition?

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